00:00:00 :| 00:00:18 Sorry 00:01:09 http://pastebin.com/ZY6BxkwJ 00:02:13 21 hours left... 00:02:15 aside from the terrible indentation 00:02:24 I am not sure what you are asking 00:02:30 * AnonyOps has flashbacks 00:03:04 i want to do the same thing 00:03:17 Table each collumn 00:03:23 But from Mysql 00:03:27 Not csv 00:03:35 so... this opens a file, and reads out the content of it? 00:04:02 That does yes 00:04:10 But with the size the database will be 00:04:13 once the server goes live 00:04:19 csv would be 00:04:20 well 00:04:22 I hope you fix this... 00:04:23 inapropreate 00:04:55 htmlspecialchars($data[$c]); 00:04:56 lol 00:04:56 trust me 00:05:25 <--- php noob still 00:05:28 then what 00:05:29 :) 00:05:35 cuz, if you echo out raw data from a file 00:05:45 I could just upload some text file that has html in it... 00:05:49 mmmm I <3 raw data 00:05:49 and do something like this 00:06:02 the csv doesnt have html in it :/ 00:06:12 so thats nothing to worry about 00:06:41 incoming injection 00:06:51
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00:07:02 boom 00:07:06 done 00:07:09 lol 00:07:14 How would you put that in the csv file tho... 00:07:28 the user has no access to the cvs file 00:07:31 uh... you echo out the contents of a file, no? 00:07:32 Plus 00:07:33 ahhh 00:07:39 https://github.com/DrWhatNoName/EvoMap/tree/Experment 00:07:39 Okay, none-the-less though, probably a good idea. 00:07:43 read the current code 00:07:47 to do it anywyas 00:07:52 think about this... 00:07:57 accualy no 00:07:59 What if someone got axx to that panel 00:08:03 https://github.com/DrWhatNoName/EvoMap/tree/file-based 00:08:13 there no panel 00:08:43 file-based is the offical release for csv format 00:08:52 for people who cant sql 00:09:15 ehh 00:09:15 https://github.com/DrWhatNoName/EvoMap/tree/File_based 00:09:17 thats it 00:09:55 Is this up anywhere yet? 00:10:06 You should have someone here penntest it before making it live. 00:10:19 Ive pentested it ;) 00:10:22 Dont worry 00:10:28 ah mk. 00:10:47 plus 00:10:49 You said you were a php noob o.O 00:10:54 ye 00:11:00 still 00:11:08 im on the border 00:11:17 I was once a php noob too. Want to know what happened? 00:11:25 well, still am now, just not as nooby lol 00:11:29 you can butt fuicked 00:11:42 got* 00:12:08 This happened http://www.zone-h.org/mirror/id/15802852 00:12:33 And this happened http://pastebin.com/SEnq2ruJ 00:14:10 Yup 00:14:16 But 00:14:18 ATM 00:14:34 the only vuln there could be in sqli 00:14:40 and that will lead to nothing 00:14:55 just logins to a public service 00:15:00 *** BLTGeno has quit (Ping timeout) 00:15:05 and aload of stuff they wont under stand 00:15:15 no admin panel 00:15:18 Nothing to upload 00:15:25 I still agree with anonyops on the pentest part 00:15:30 Hey at least you got this! $editFormAction .= "?" . htmlentities($_SERVER['QUERY_STRING']); 00:15:32 \(o_O)/ 00:15:35 a) how you gonna pentest your own code and call that pentesting 00:15:44 b) thats pretty muhc it 00:16:02 yeah... when I made my second project I had someone penntest it for me. (Not related to anonyops) 00:16:11 lol 00:16:21 Found nothing, but it was still not a waste of time. 00:16:24 They did it for free too. 00:16:33 If anything it can usually highlight deficiencies in your code 00:16:45 the only thing that could have a sqli is the login 00:16:53 i took care of the lfi 00:17:32 I'm looking at that now actually lol 00:17:33 + its not even in alpha stages or recomanded working condistion 00:17:45 what ou looking at? 00:17:51 the anti-lfi or the login 00:17:57 https://github.com/DrWhatNoName/EvoMap/blob/Experment/login.php 00:18:22 lol 00:19:10 $_GET['accesscheck'] 00:19:11 ? 00:19:15 Sound sketchy lol 00:19:19 *sounds 00:19:29 How are you access checking? 00:20:00 https://github.com/DrWhatNoName/EvoMap/blob/File_based/include/Access.inc.php 00:20:07  00:21:06 index.php calls on access.inc.php 00:21:18 access.inc.php says yes user is loged in 00:21:19 or not 00:21:21 if not 00:21:27 access.inc.php sends user to login.php 00:21:58 login.php?accesscheck="page requested" 00:22:10 when user succesfuly logs in 00:22:20 login will send user to page previously denied 00:22:28 else index.php 00:22:35 what is the page that is allowed? 00:22:45 just register and login 00:22:46 ?accesscheck=*what* 00:22:55 accesscheck=file.php 00:23:02 you guys stay classy, see ya 00:23:08 later 00:23:10 *** zxcvbnm has quit (User quit: leaving) 00:23:13 Bai 00:24:21 *** joepie91 has quit (Ping timeout) 00:25:31 *** joepie91 (joepie91@cryto-A6766B2C.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 00:25:58
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00:26:02 THATS COPYRIGHTED 00:26:02 :P 00:26:06 lel 00:26:10 also, the aborted-babies-background one is more fun 00:26:16 haha 00:26:25 I'm trying to break DrWhat's code 00:26:28 lol 00:26:53 :P 00:27:09 Bet you cant :) 00:27:20 its too basic to break 00:27:24 also, joepie91 what do you think of this?
You have input the wrong username or password 00:27:51 whats wrong with it 00:28:07 You'll see when Joepie sees it... I got told the same thing by him :p 00:28:17 Oh 00:28:25 if he doesn't get it, I'll tell you lol 00:28:26 He already bitched at me for it being a popup 00:28:35 oh yeah that's nasty too 00:28:40 XD 00:28:43 Javascript popup? 00:28:44 also, joepie91 what do you think of this?
You have input the wrong username or password 00:28:48 grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 00:28:54 BAD BAD BAD 00:28:55 EVIl 00:28:55 BAD 00:28:58 LOL 00:28:59 TRASHCAN 00:28:59 Told you 00:29:00 hahaha 00:29:01 WHATS WRONF WITH IT 00:29:05 DrWhat: where to start 00:29:18 my chest if you want :) 00:29:19 00:30:09 really? really...? 00:30:12 yeah I fucked that up lol 00:30:20 lol 00:30:29 I just thought of it 00:30:51 You have input the wrong username or password 00:31:00 yes 00:31:06 lol 00:31:08 However, should use ID / class 00:31:09 Does it matter 00:31:14 It works 00:31:20 not style="" 00:31:28 just is better... 00:31:33 oh lawd 00:32:02 That's probably what Sony said too 00:32:05 Hurry up and break the code 00:32:06 XD 00:32:14 I'm not that good at it! 00:32:17 Does it matter 00:32:18 It works 00:32:20 I just know a little here and there 00:32:23 this is an absolutely terrible attitude 00:32:26 that you have to fix right away 00:32:31 or your code will forever suck 00:32:35 and break unpredictably 00:32:39 But its my attetude :( 00:32:42 And i like me :) 00:32:43 so, change it 00:32:46 If there was 2 of me 00:32:49 I would have sex with me 00:32:52 then there'd be twice as many breaking things 00:32:55 anyway 00:33:00 you should really fix that attitude 00:33:04 Im sure me would have sex with me too :) 00:33:04 DrWhat!! 00:33:07 you are one user, with one browser, on one OS 00:33:07 $loginFormAction = $_SERVER['PHP_SELF']; 00:33:07 if (isset($_GET['accesscheck'])) { 00:33:07 $_SESSION['PrevUrl'] = $_GET['accesscheck']; 00:33:07 } 00:33:12 AnonyOps 00:33:15 you're scrolling away my rant 00:33:15 lol 00:33:19 echo $loginFormAction; 00:33:19 you are one user, with one browser, on one OS 00:33:21 VULN 00:33:27 in one location 00:33:29 with one account 00:33:37 your experiences with how well your code work cannot possibly be representative 00:33:37 anonyops 00:33:38 for everyone 00:33:39 How is it vuln 00:33:44 DrWhat: reading what I am saying? 00:33:48 oh wait just kidding 00:33:49 Cant 00:33:53 anonyops wont shutup 00:33:56 :P 00:33:58 okay 00:33:58 let me start over 00:33:58 He shouting 00:34:00 VULN! 00:34:01 AnonyOps, quiet for a sec 00:34:03 mk 00:34:15 DrWhat: you are one user with one browser on one OS on one machine in one country with one account 00:34:25 how things work for you != representative for every possible combination of that 00:34:39 the point of following standards (or accepted practice) is that a lot of people have tested them before 00:34:44 and you can be reasonably sure that they work for most people 00:35:02 by using standards or commonly accepted practices, you effectively outsource part of your testing to the rest of the world 00:35:05 and get a better result 00:35:10 that is why you should be using CSS 00:35:13 and not font or center 00:35:28 people before you have run across problems with the things you are doing 00:35:31 they have learned from it 00:35:37 and changed their methods to reflect that 00:35:42 so why not learn from them and use those methods too? 00:35:57 instead of figuring out in 2 years that you're having the same problems that you could've avoided from the start by following advice straight away 00:36:51 your code is more reliably, you have less of a headache, more people get to enjoy what you use in a properly working fashion 00:36:55 and it saves you time 00:37:00 reliable * 00:37:09 yes 00:37:24 thats why i want to get it running off mysql as soon as 00:37:27 Beciase 00:37:37 [18-Feb-2013 23:21:13 UTC] PHP Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in C:\xampp\htdocs\map\index.php on line 117 00:37:40 That happned 00:37:41 XD 00:37:44 sure 00:37:48 but this includes using CSS 00:37:51 instead of and
00:38:01 I think [18-Feb-2013 23:21:13 UTC] PHP Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in C:\xampp\htdocs\map\index.php on line 117 is more serious 00:38:06 now I can explain to you in-depth why these tags are bad, but honestly that shouldn't be necessary 00:38:09 this information is easy to find 00:38:13 confirmed by many people to be the case 00:38:23 and it saves us both time if you follow the advice 00:38:31 Also, Drwhat, appears your code is pretty secure actually. I can't seem to find anything here, but It will be easier when it's actually live and I can mess with the input boxes, register, etc. 00:38:46 Thank you anonyops :) 00:38:59 it is live on my home server 00:39:05 But im not prepered to give out my ip 00:39:08 I checked all your echo's, and it looks good. 00:39:15 Heh, I understand :p 00:39:19 :) 00:39:24 Joepie has my home IP for that reason haha 00:39:33 So does mine 00:39:38 lol 00:41:50 http://services.runescape.com/m=news/congratulations-old-school-servers-will-be-back-asap 00:41:55 !!!!!! 00:41:57 W00t 00:43:11 you play runescape 00:43:14 ... 00:43:14 .... 00:43:15 ..... 00:43:17 ,..... 00:43:19 ....... 00:43:23 DrWhat: you play evony 00:43:29 be careful what you complain about 00:43:31 :P 00:43:32 Accualy i dont :( 00:43:35 :) 00:43:41 of course not 00:43:44 Nope 00:44:12 Damn 00:44:16 webs is still down 00:44:18 Actually, no I don't 00:44:20 Whos ddos them 00:44:21 >webs lol 00:44:24 Also, 00:44:35 I will play though, when the old school servers come back :) 00:44:37 haha 00:44:42 I hate RS how it is now. They ruined it. 00:45:17 Also, for your information, joepie and I are friends on runescape lol 00:46:44 dafuq O_O 00:47:03 i broke my code by putting a function in a diffrent file and including it 00:47:11 Parse error: syntax error, unexpected 'else' (T_ELSE) in C:\xampp\htdocs\mapsql\include\search.inc.php on line 31 00:47:17 How da fuck did that happen 00:48:41 Omg 00:48:48 my code is broken 00:48:56 on a part i never touched 00:49:45 lel 00:50:31 Now for some real talk 00:50:38 Please complete "Apply Your Knowledge" #2 (Precision Tools) on pg 237. Just complete steps 1 and 2 (the Context and diagram 0 DFDs). Be sure they are balanced! 00:50:43 lolwut 00:51:08 Oh also!!! 00:51:09 ... 00:51:13 @joepie 00:51:26 So, I found something good about taking classess on Web Dev 00:51:42 The amount of things you learn with HTML 5. 00:51:53 Parse error: syntax error, unexpected '1' (T_LNUMBER), expecting '(' in C:\xampp\htdocs\mapsql\include\search.inc.php on line 23 00:51:55 O_O 00:51:55 I never really use it, so I finally have a reason to learn it... 00:52:07 The form validation in HTML 5 is fucking epic 00:52:21 lol lol Drwhat 00:52:25 show me the file 00:52:27 I might be able to help 00:52:40 Looks like you missed a ( 00:52:48 Its ok i know whats wrong 00:53:07 to preper it to accept MySQL 00:53:09 probably something like... if(isset)); where it should be if(isset()); 00:53:14 i removed to file request 00:53:21 No 00:53:25 its just if 00:53:27 LOL 00:53:35 what? lol 00:53:43 You only had an if with no (? 00:53:56 well i removed all that part 00:54:04 lel 00:54:19 so i put 00:54:22 if 1=1 { 00:54:27 But then i got that error 00:54:41 so im going to do if isnumeric(1) 00:54:47 { 00:54:48 ooooh 00:54:50 I know whyh 00:54:53 if 1==1 00:54:58 Ahhh 00:55:00 Ofc 00:55:03 always use == inside an if 00:55:04 duhhh 00:55:11 although, why aren't you using if() 00:55:32 or are you doing shorthand? 00:55:33 yeah 00:55:37 I see 00:55:41 I never use that.. 00:55:49 *** smithsonian has quit (nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 00:55:51 Also, you should do your ifs like this 00:56:02 Works now 00:56:04 if 1==1 00:56:05 { 00:56:06 } 00:56:11 not if 1==1 { 00:56:12 } 00:56:18 drives me nuts when people do that lol 00:56:24 I prefer if (1==1) { 00:56:29 } 00:56:30 D: why 00:56:38 looks nicer O_O 00:56:40 So much easier to read if you do 00:56:41 { 00:56:42 } 00:56:50 not for me 00:56:54 then it looks long 00:57:00 i read it like 00:57:01 lua 00:57:07 if 1 == 1 then 00:57:14 blah blah blah 00:57:43 or if 1 == 2 then 00:57:45 blah blah blah 00:58:04 *** smithsonian (vi.veri@veniversum.vivus.vici) has joined #crytocc 00:59:30 daisy has gone all queit on me now :( 01:00:19 I know why 01:00:21 LOL 01:00:25 so much neater https://pastee.org/jzu3k 01:00:32 You can also have that function if you want lol 01:00:33 the bitch has gona and built her own basic evomap 01:00:33 http://173.195.5.19/evomap.php?p=af87erw80fyq0th30bg 01:00:34 XD 01:01:40 Know what it does? 01:02:09 Warning: mysql_num_rows() expects parameter 1 to be resource, boolean given in Z:\xampp\htdocs\evomap.php on line 357 01:02:09 Warning: mysql_num_rows() expects parameter 1 to be resource, boolean given in Z:\xampp\htdocs\evomap.php on line 366 01:02:09 Click table headers to sort by column 01:02:12 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL 01:02:25 Now hers is vuln 01:02:31 :P 01:02:31 nah 01:02:33 just a normal error 01:02:33 Yup 01:02:37 ehhh 01:02:45 Probably not vuln 01:02:47 So, I found something good about taking classess on Web Dev 01:02:47 The amount of things you learn with HTML 5. 01:02:48 ? 01:03:03 I don't ever use HTML 5, cuz it's not done... 01:03:15 This class forces me to use it, and I actually have learned a bit from it. 01:03:32 Like the form validations in HTML 5, they're epic. 01:03:57 Of course, you probably can't rely on those, and will still have to do it server-side too, but none-the-less, I like it! 01:05:14 *** smithsonian has quit (nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 01:07:12 *** smithsonian (vi.veri@veniversum.vivus.vici) has joined #crytocc 01:14:09 AnonyOps: you could of course also have read on something like htmldoctor 01:14:09 :P 01:14:10 er 01:14:13 html5doctor 01:14:16 also, I'm surprised they teach html5 in a class.. 01:14:49 me too!! 01:14:55 Cuz it's not done. 01:15:03 And it doesn't work well in IE 01:15:18 It's almost all HTML 5 too 01:27:55 HTML5 will never be done.. 01:27:59 and fuck IE 01:28:13 lol 01:29:07 *** Angelina has quit (Ping timeout) 01:29:24 *** Sabit (NOL@Sabit.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 01:31:34 Do you feel like a man, when you push her around, do you feel better now, as she falls to the ground :3 01:46:32 -.- 01:46:40 She likes being pushed around 01:46:46 She would be lost with out me 01:47:06 *** MK_FG has quit (Ping timeout) 01:58:52 * joepie91 yawns 02:04:40 *** MK_FG (MK_FG@MKFG-91968.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 02:12:41 !axx add AnonyOps 10 02:12:45 :D 02:15:42 soooo 02:15:48 friend of mine uploaded a track to Jamendo 02:15:50 that he made 02:15:53 this is what happened: http://owely.com/2encXk 02:16:11 holy shit lol 02:16:22 More downloads than listens? 02:16:29 seems so, yes 02:16:33 Must have been from a YT video or something 02:16:41 like someone linked them to the direct download 02:16:42 AnonyOps: well.. 02:16:45 he's currently on the frontpage 02:16:46 of jamendo 02:16:51 I see lol 02:16:53 so i think a lot of people just download a HQ version 02:16:55 without previewing 02:16:58 name? 02:17:00 and playing with their own music player 02:17:10 http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/429942/rapture 02:17:26 currently listening to his new track on youtube 02:17:26 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug8yVVBNPtI 02:17:33 I suppose he will upload the rest of his tracks when the album is done 02:21:10 Not bad 02:25:21 do you fancy him jamesbt] 02:25:26 joepie91* 02:25:39 * joepie91 sighs and mumbles something about one track mind 02:25:45 lol 02:35:48 * DrWhat is away "Not here!" • Log: on • Pager: off 02:35:48 *** DrWhat is now known as DrAway 02:41:47 * AnonyOps is going to make a real time chat box now 02:51:22 :D 02:54:37 tis gonna be a bitch lol 03:21:07 *** xnite has quit (User quit: There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. 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We don't believe this to be a coincidence.) 03:34:51 *** xnite (xnite@xnite.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 04:05:03 *** T0R_till (T0R_till@cryto-454686D9.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 04:06:25 *** T0R_till has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 04:17:43 http://joepie91.wordpress.com/2013/02/19/the-python-documentation-is-bad-and-you-should-feel-bad/ 04:17:51 AnonyOps, DrAway 04:18:02 MK_FG, AppleJack, Divinite, Matrix 04:18:07 others that might do python that I did not highlight 04:18:08 read above 04:24:02 do I have to 04:24:09 yes 04:24:16 I just rode several hundred miles each direction on the back of a motorcycle 04:24:48 also got notified on friday that I got into the college I wanted, and today visited said college 04:25:05 could've been worse 04:25:09 could've been the back of an elephant 04:25:51 *** mangnavox (nick@cryto-51293F0B.sc.res.rr.com) has joined #crytocc 04:26:01 hey all 04:26:58 hai 04:28:07 is there anything interesting going on in the world 04:29:35 joepie91:) the only reason that would be worse is because elephants are a slow mode of transportation 04:33:06 mangnavox: somewhere in the world, sure, probably 04:33:09 :P 04:33:14 lady-3jane: heh 04:36:41 *** mangnavox has quit (Client exited) 04:39:47 *** Cryto889 (Cryto889@cryto-814F9021.netvigator.com) has joined #crytocc 04:40:22 *** Cryto889 has quit (User quit: Page closed) 17:07:05 *** loggy (loggy@5C4B2CE4.B8E60B3B.FD9B6484.IP) has joined #crytocc 17:07:05 Topic for #crytocc is: Cryto Coding Collective | THIS IS A PUBLICLY LOGGED CHANNEL. http://wire.cryto.net/logs | http://cryto.net/, http://forums.cryto.net/ | Rules: no Anonymous, no cracking, no drama | Online Flash IDE: http://wonderfl.net/about/ | Cryto Research: http://research.cryto.net/ | RIP Aaron Swartz 17:07:05 Users on #crytocc: loggy AppleJack jamesbt Kamonra Matrix truetravesty ryan foolex &ebola shikat xnite BLTGeno zxcvbnm maxQ choctula evilworks IR601 DrWhat wh1t3r4bb1t cr[a]tes twitchyliquid64 @SpaghettiCode smithsonian &MK_FG AnonForecast_ Ishaq Divinite joepie91_ Chasenet joepie91 17:07:09 wtf. 17:07:13 :O 17:07:16 You banned me 17:07:32 probably long time ago 17:07:41 !clear bans 17:07:44 oh, right 17:07:44 says 19th of feb here 17:07:50 yes, that's when services put it back 17:07:53 when leaf reconnected 17:07:58 ohhh 17:08:13 !clear bans 17:08:16 !clear exempts 17:08:17 no? 17:08:18 Ill let you of -.- this time 17:08:20 !help clear 17:08:24 hm 17:08:31 but yeah joepie91 17:08:33 as i said earlier 17:08:37 you just wanna see the world burn :D 17:08:39 well, Matrix, I don't have to redact from logs 17:08:44 seeing as loggy wasnm't ehre 17:08:44 :P 17:08:45 here * 17:08:47 nah 17:09:00 I want to see the ignorant communities burn just enough to become non-ignorant 17:09:14 :( this including me i guess 17:09:17 getting pissed can be a really effective method of focusing atention on something 17:09:28 community as a whole has been conveniently ignoring the issue for a long time 17:09:37 now it's pretty much impossible to avoid it 17:09:42 the controversy ensures that people discuss it 17:09:55 but its true 17:10:02 the actuall downvotes and upvotes prove it 17:10:18 but i do believe more people agree with the hostility rather than the docs 17:10:39 but, if you get the hostility away 17:10:45 you can actually consider the docs in a new light 17:10:50 without being flamed to death 17:11:19 exactly 17:11:29 the docs are the real problem, the hostility is what keeps the problem from going away 17:11:41 don't agree 17:11:46 but i cba to argue with you atm :P 17:13:43 I think i done enough today :) 17:13:46 time for a break 17:25:00 *** BLTGeno has quit (Ping timeout) 17:34:49 - Cam joined 17:34:49 http://joepie91.wordpress.com/2013/02/19/the-python-documentation-is-bad-and-you-should-feel-bad/ 17:34:55 ah, I was wondering how long it'd take for someone to post it in #python 17:35:04 joepie91, Matrix, Doesn't "#" work? I've seen it used just today in #esp (where sbp hangs out) 17:35:16 MK_FG: work for what? 17:35:31 "[20:19:06] dpk: prefix your messages with # " "[20:19:37] easier than [off] :)" 17:35:47 ah 17:35:50 huh 17:35:53 I never saw that in the code 17:35:54 let me check 17:36:58 if not text.startswith(self.offlog): 17:37:03 self.offlog = '[off]' 17:37:05 no # in this code 17:37:08 might be modded version? 17:38:07 Guess so 17:38:33 joepie91: hahahahahahaha 17:39:29 loggy, pointer? 17:39:29 http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc2013-02-19#T17-39-29 17:39:48 Oh dear, you broke it ;) 17:40:04 github can't multi select? 17:40:04 wat 17:40:05 also 17:40:06 https://github.com/joepie91/multiloggy/blob/master/bot/loggy.py#L105 17:40:10 uh crap 17:40:11 I think I did break it 17:40:12 what 17:40:28 Just wanted to check if it leaves horrible "-= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =-" as in http://irclogs.ampify.it/ 17:40:31 how.. 17:40:49 nah 17:40:50 it just omits it 17:41:00 *** loggy (loggy@5C4B2CE4.B8E60B3B.FD9B6484.IP) has joined #crytocc 17:41:00 Topic for #crytocc is: Cryto Coding Collective | THIS IS A PUBLICLY LOGGED CHANNEL. http://wire.cryto.net/logs | http://cryto.net/, http://forums.cryto.net/ | Rules: no Anonymous, no cracking, no drama | Online Flash IDE: http://wonderfl.net/about/ | Cryto Research: http://research.cryto.net/ | RIP Aaron Swartz 17:41:00 Users on #crytocc: loggy AppleJack jamesbt Kamonra Matrix truetravesty ryan foolex &ebola shikat xnite zxcvbnm maxQ choctula evilworks IR601 DrWhat wh1t3r4bb1t cr[a]tes twitchyliquid64 @SpaghettiCode smithsonian &MK_FG AnonForecast_ Ishaq Divinite joepie91_ Chasenet ~joepie91 17:41:09 not sure if right 17:41:10 loggy, pointer? 17:41:10 http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2013-02-19#T17-41-10 17:41:23 Confirms different logger theory then ;) 17:41:28 yay works 17:42:15 \o/ 17:42:22 srs joepie91 17:42:31 have you even seen your upvotes? 17:43:13 Matrix: hmm? 17:43:23 I just know that it's quite controversial 17:43:27 judging from votes 17:43:28 on reddit 17:43:31 200 upvoates 17:43:34 upvotes* 17:43:39 thats alot 17:44:06 mhmm 17:44:21 I'm more concerned about the about of reads and comments, tbh 17:44:28 which is still too low 17:44:32 like 17:44:34 haha 17:44:37 this topic warrants all-out entire-community-involved discussion 17:44:41 it's a real problem 17:44:42 yeah, but judging the upvotes 17:44:46 you can conclude you are right :P 17:44:47 yes 17:44:47 no 17:44:53 I can conclude that people have an issue with t 17:44:54 it * 17:45:02 the article does include some subjective interpretations of things 17:45:07 (it's tagged 'rant' for a reason) 17:45:20 and that people recognize the issues does not necessarily mean they agree with the subjective interpretations 17:45:26 I would not go as far as to say that I am "right" 17:45:42 I'd just argue that at least some of the points I make resonate with people enough to cause some disturbance 17:45:44 by approaching the topic 17:45:51 which is good, in a way 17:46:34 yeah 17:46:54 but i think you should have written something else as the title 17:47:09 "the docs are bad, and you should feel bad" kinda...gives me atleast a little negative view asap 17:47:12 if you had said 17:47:17 "The community is bad, and you should feel bad" 17:47:30 you could maybe get people positive before they read 17:48:57 *** BLTGeno (BLTGeno4@cryto-590FDA9.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #crytocc 17:49:12 No one should feel bad 17:49:24 Doubt anyone wants to feel bad 17:50:04 So it's kinda immoral to say "you should feel bad" if it's universally undesirable to 17:50:19 people *should* feel bad. 17:50:28 it's the responsibility of everyone that's capable of doing so, to fix these issues 17:50:30 it's a collective issue 17:50:48 the codinghorror guy, I forgot his name, worded this very well in a presentation 17:50:50 "embrace the suck" 17:50:56 Fix, sure, but why not being positive about it? 17:51:04 Yep, embrace and fix it 17:51:11 Don't feel bad and suck 17:51:23 MK_FG: http://www.slideshare.net/codinghorror/how-to-stop-sucking-and-be-awesome-instead 17:51:26 read that to undersatnd why 17:51:30 it's a pretty short slideshow 17:51:56 it's primarily written with code in mind 17:52:00 but applies equally to software 17:52:08 unless you can say "okay, what we have now sucks, we have to fix it" 17:52:10 you can't fix it 17:52:31 you have to acknowledge the problem first, and admitting that the current version sucks and feeling bad about that is a crucial step in driving you to improve it 17:54:21 Just read the slides, and they seem to advocate exactly the opposite of feeling bad 17:54:34 Saying e.g. "isn't awesome enough and it's OK" 17:54:38 (slide 43) 17:55:23 looks like a contrasiction, but really isn't 17:55:25 contradiction * 17:55:33 And the whole idea is to be awesome and not feeling bad about sucky code (which will always be ther) 17:55:38 what it basically says is "feel bad about X, but don't feel bad about yourself" 17:55:47 reading between the lines 17:56:21 Nah, still disagree, but it's OK 17:57:06 Hm, though no, not ok 18:02:40 joepie91: its done 18:02:45 cam is banned :c 18:03:16 *** BLTGeno has quit (Client exited) 18:03:46 ah 18:20:57 *** BLTGeno (BLTGeno4@cryto-590FDA9.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #crytocc 18:26:02 *** crytocc023 (crytocc023@DDEB6B29.DD793D21.B507C3A1.IP) has joined #crytocc 18:27:13 *** crytocc023 has quit (User quit: Page closed) 18:41:52 *** zest (zest@91167AEE.E48623F6.9B6A5F88.IP) has joined #crytocc 18:44:47 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-7B09657A.ucsc.edu) has joined #crytocc 18:57:43 *** evilworks has quit (nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 18:57:43 *** Divinite has quit (nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 18:57:43 *** Ishaq has quit (nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 18:57:43 *** AnonForecast_ has quit (nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 18:57:43 *** MK_FG has quit (nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 18:57:43 *** joepie91_ has quit (nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 18:57:43 *** smithsonian has quit (nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 18:59:59 *** evilworks (evilworks@cryto-54A025B8.dynamic.amis.hr) has joined #crytocc 18:59:59 *** joepie91_ (joepie91@cryto-A6766B2C.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 18:59:59 *** Divinite (root@CE4052C8.CF1E43B9.E13471D5.IP) has joined #crytocc 18:59:59 *** Ishaq (Ishaq@cryto-6C73979.rf.usr.sh) has joined #crytocc 18:59:59 *** MK_FG (MK_FG@MKFG-91968.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 18:59:59 *** smithsonian (vi.veri@veniversum.vivus.vici) has joined #crytocc 19:00:40 *** evilworks has quit (Input/output error) 19:02:30 *** evilworks (evilworks@cryto-54A025B8.dynamic.amis.hr) has joined #crytocc 19:08:12 *** BLTGeno has quit (Connection reset by peer) 19:09:57 *** lady-3jane (lady3jane@lady-3jane.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 19:10:55 *** Divinite has quit (nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 19:10:55 *** Ishaq has quit (nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 19:10:55 *** MK_FG has quit (nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 19:10:55 *** joepie91_ has quit (nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 19:10:55 *** smithsonian has quit (nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 19:12:56 *** Divinite (root@CE4052C8.CF1E43B9.E13471D5.IP) has joined #crytocc 19:12:56 *** Ishaq (Ishaq@cryto-6C73979.rf.usr.sh) has joined #crytocc 19:12:56 *** MK_FG (MK_FG@MKFG-91968.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 19:12:56 *** smithsonian (vi.veri@veniversum.vivus.vici) has joined #crytocc 19:16:10 *** Divinite has quit (nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 19:16:10 *** Ishaq has quit (nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 19:16:10 *** MK_FG has quit (nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 19:16:10 *** smithsonian has quit (nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 19:19:52 *** Ishaq (Ishaq@cryto-6C73979.rf.usr.sh) has joined #crytocc 19:23:06 *** Divinite (root@CE4052C8.CF1E43B9.E13471D5.IP) has joined #crytocc 19:23:06 *** MK_FG (MK_FG@MKFG-91968.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 19:23:06 *** smithsonian (vi.veri@veniversum.vivus.vici) has joined #crytocc 19:26:28 *** joepie91_ (joepie91@cryto-A6766B2C.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 19:35:44 ^ Hello 19:41:07 haha fuck, first time I've pulled in a unity update and it's been really truly broken 19:44:26 Except unity works... but unity panels has run off 19:52:54 lady-3jane: lol 19:52:55 I rest my case regarding ubuntu and breaking updates... 19:55:37 so, lady-3jane, have you followed the discussion about python docs 20:00:25 that is the difference between proprietary and freeware software, no one responsible for bugs 20:01:06 but alternative is much better then nothing 20:02:12 zest: wait, in which case is noone responsible for bugs? 20:02:22 because this argument is typically used against free software 20:02:29 while it typically applies to proprietary software 20:02:36 so I'm not sure which you are intending to point out 20:07:17 bugs won't be fixed 100% 20:09:34 *** pzuraq has quit (Input/output error) 20:09:35 no one guarantee that, its actually better to have just few with great quality then a lot of with full of shit 20:12:09 I like fedora 20:13:20 test 20:13:24 the system is down. the system is down. 20:14:15 *** foolex has quit (Ping timeout) 20:19:02 ls 20:19:27 joepie91:) No need to rest your case, I'm running a nightly version. There's no expectation of stability. 20:19:39 yep 20:19:44 joepie91:) and no, I haven't been here. I was 3 hours away by motorcycle. 20:20:46 is nexus being ddos'd due to your comments? 20:21:00 lady-3jane: http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/18ssb6/the_python_documentation_is_bad_and_you_should/ 20:21:02 no 20:21:09 colocrossing is just being a pain again it seems 20:21:30 those first two comments are gold 20:21:36 illustrating your point 20:23:45 so, as a stand-in for unity I'm using e17 temporarily 20:23:48 :D 20:24:19 :P 20:24:50 e17 is nice 20:25:06 *** foolex (foolex@78EA513B.7DC890E0.CEC56216.IP) has joined #crytocc 20:25:38 The first stable came out for ubuntu and it didn't do a whole lot... this time when I installed it the setup wizard even arbitrarily gave me a random background image that's kinda pretty 20:26:01 vertical stripes, like wallpaper 20:26:07 made me lol tbh 20:27:53 lol 20:28:35 *** foolex has quit (Ping timeout) 20:35:38 e17 is lulz 20:35:54 the virtual desktops are real desktops fucking finally 20:36:27 none of this absolute pointer bullshit where the desktops are more like ppt slides flipping behind the mouse 20:36:54 if I move my mouse all the way to the right, it goes to desktop 2 and my mouse is then on the left side of desktop 2. 20:36:58 where it fucking should be. 20:41:36 *** foolex (foolex@78EA513B.7DC890E0.CEC56216.IP) has joined #crytocc 20:42:47 *** shadowdemon (alex@cryto-507D6D5.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 20:50:41 lol 20:56:46 *** AnonForecast (AnonForeca@AnonForecast.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 21:05:04 *** THX1337b (THX1337b@cryto-454686D9.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 21:06:24 *** THX1337b has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 21:36:56 Bah python docs 21:37:09 Learn c++ 21:37:13 theres no documents for that 21:37:32 just bits of infomation here and there 21:38:38 plus the endless intro CS courses at US colleges 21:38:53 Pfft 21:38:54 US collages 21:39:09 india is the best place to learn c/c++ 21:39:39 yeah but you'd live in fucking india 21:39:45 no offense if you live in india 21:39:53 i do -.- 21:40:20 well, India is not my kind of place.. a bit too crowded 21:40:39 You think india is crowded 21:40:43 go to japan 21:40:57 I wouldn't necessarily live in Japan either, although I'd be more likely to move there than India 21:41:14 :< 21:41:22 We have great women 21:41:27 lol 21:41:29 sold! 21:41:34 * zxcvbnm gets on a plane. 21:41:40 japan dont shave there muffs 21:41:49 I used to live with a guy from India when I worked on a cruise ship 21:41:52 Unless you like muffins 21:41:55 He went by Bomber cause he was from Bombay 21:42:03 we got along :) 21:42:22 Plus japan are small 21:49:15 Time status: [Up time: 5d 5h 18m 13s] × [mIRC up time: 1d 21h 27m 50s] × [On-line time: 8h 59m 27s] × [Idle time: 6m 53s] × [Local time: 21:49:16] × [Date: 19/02/2013] 21:49:45 Current bandwidth: [Downstream: None] × [Upstream: None] 21:50:11 oh my 21:54:30 no bandwidth , o titties 22:40:23 ikr 22:41:45 Yo doggies 22:41:47 How 22:41:49 is 22:41:51 you 22:41:53 lifes 22:45:00 i have no bandwidth :( 22:45:06 So not very good :( 22:45:44 spare some bandwidth 22:47:29 Current bandwidth: [Downstream: None] × [Upstream: None] 22:47:33 :( 22:48:42 *** AnonyOps (anony_ops@cryto-5167D786.woh.res.rr.com) has joined #crytocc 22:48:59 congratulations anonyops 22:49:10 hm? 22:49:18 you've done it, you're here 22:49:38 lolwut 22:50:14 hi 22:50:18 do i get a prize?? 22:50:45 anyone know if there is an htmlspecialchars function within jquery? 22:50:54 * zxcvbnm smiles. prize! 22:51:42 sorry Anony, I'm feeling a bit cracked out. 22:52:25 heh 22:55:35 hes discovered hes gay 22:55:47 he no like idian women 22:56:06 i love this italian girl 22:56:16 wut 22:56:26 DrWhat has twisted my words, let it be known 22:56:40 I in fact said I would go to India ONLY because of it's women 22:56:53 and he was trying to convince me all these indian chicks are like w00t. 22:56:58 and here now he goes talking about Italians. hmph. 22:57:27 :) 22:57:51 drwhat when is your site gonna be live? 22:57:56 I want to own it :) 22:57:58 haha 22:58:18 anonyops 22:58:24 look in experimantal 22:58:27 i did some sql stuff 22:58:33 link? 22:58:36 i know i suck with sql so see if you feind antghing 22:58:41 Also... should see what I made last night :) 22:58:51 https://github.com/DrWhatNoName/EvoMap/tree/Experment 22:59:01 k ima look at it 22:59:04 also 22:59:07 italian girls :) 22:59:08 https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1440&bih=806&q=maria+mazza&oq=maria+mazza&gs_l=img.3...2594.5028.0.5131.13.10.1.2.0.0.50.383.10.10.0...0.0...1ac.1.3.img.dwqXL_5Jmic 22:59:11 What file is it in? 22:59:16 index.php 22:59:39 You making a game? lol 22:59:59 $alliance = mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['alliance']); 22:59:59 $lord = mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['lord']); 22:59:59 $city = mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['city']); 22:59:59 $flag = mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['flag']); 23:00:01 Very good :) 23:00:07 :) 23:00:23 PDO is your friend 23:00:33 Dont know how to use :( 23:00:37 wait... 23:00:44 If you take the time to learn, you'll end up liking it more 23:00:52 I was resistant at first, after you finally grasp what the hell is going on 23:00:54 I think it kinda rocks 23:01:00 Is flag submitted through a form? 23:01:09 and stored in the db by the user? 23:01:21 Nothing is stored in db by the user 23:01:34 mazza (the girl im going to marry) 23:01:35 $_POST['lord'] 23:01:43 $_POST['flag'] 23:01:44 is making a scraper 23:01:51 those are from a form, no> 23:01:52 yeah? 23:01:53 ? 23:02:02 i havnt built the form yet 23:02:05 ooooh. 23:02:11 This is why I am asking... 23:02:15 *** ak-47_user (ak-47_user@5AA8EA51.D24590ED.88854439.IP) has joined #crytocc 23:02:26 $city = "".$result['city_name'].""; 23:02:32 Are you going to echo that out? 23:02:35 At some point in time? 23:02:43 already in there 23:02:53 i used print insted of echo tho :/ 23:03:01 i was writing it a bit fast 23:03:17 okay, well what if $result['city_name'] =
then you db would store that, and echo it out as raw data, thus executing the html. 23:08:13 but becuase we have no access to their database we nee d another method ot get the infomation of city locations 23:08:35 then evony would quickly fic that as its more of a risk to them then me 23:08:43 they have 30 million users 23:09:01 * zxcvbnm wonders how quickly a game w/ 30 million users would notice a city with an apostrophe in the name 23:09:02 Yes, but you should still htmlspecialchar raw output. 23:09:07 if somone plocked a cookie stealing the datbase and so much as 1 million people picked on it 23:09:18 evony has santized input 23:09:27 so the data we are extracting is clean 23:09:28 meh, I would do it anyways :p 23:09:32 No reason not to 23:09:35 if it wasnt evony would have errors 23:09:48 there game needs clean info to work 23:09:55 Hell, sometimes I even specialchar the id's I output from the db haha 23:10:00 if a coord is not a number 23:10:09 then evony will break 23:10:24 I'm just trying to save you a headache in the future. 23:10:27 No reason not to 23:10:28 that 23:10:28 * zxcvbnm nods. 23:10:37 No reason not to htmlspecialchar your output. 23:10:41 it's simply too! 23:10:53 lol 23:11:00 $city = "". htmlspecialchars($result['city_name']) .""; 23:11:02 done 23:11:05 ill do it first thing friday 23:11:45 you might need a ; after the closing ) of htmlspecialchars... I'm not sure. 23:12:02 I'm excited for this project though DrWhat, hope it works out for you. I love scraping data 23:12:03 in the way that it's written I mean 23:12:19 And I hope I get a chance to break it 23:12:32 You like the 100,000th person who told me XD 23:12:42 Oh and actually 23:13:10 getting a c++ developer to do software for you for free is not easy 23:13:12 $city = "". htmlspecialchars(stripslashes($result['city_name'])) .""; 23:13:24 she build a private server 23:13:28 the scraper 23:13:31 Should strip the slashes in that too Dr, or else your gonna have like city name = Derpington\' city 23:13:49 even a custom cleint fo rme topass objected code to evony servers 23:13:52 to test for vulns 23:13:58 i found a sqli in there market 23:14:05 but i never injected a game before 23:14:07 it was hard 23:14:20 not a simple union injection 23:14:27 hehehe. Derpington Palace :P 23:14:28 i think it was blind 23:14:40 * zxcvbnm is on the way home to Derpington Palace. 23:16:17 any change picked up instantly 23:16:17 [18/02/2013 23:00:59] Daizee: but then evony had a mental breakdown 23:16:17 [18/02/2013 23:01:04] Daizee: thinking we were making bots and shit 23:16:17 [18/02/2013 23:01:59] Daizee: what is this shit 23:16:17 [18/02/2013 23:02:02] Daizee: it's so throttled right now 23:16:17 [18/02/2013 23:03:43] Daizee: are you really trying to make another evomap 23:16:28 it was huge 23:16:29 [18/02/2013 23:04:44] Daizee: but it was just pulling mapdata 23:16:29 [18/02/2013 23:04:45] Daizee: nothing more 23:16:29 [18/02/2013 23:05:02] Daizee: were you planning on making it public 23:16:29 [18/02/2013 23:05:03] Daizee: or no 23:16:29 [18/02/2013 23:05:18] ╒╣DrWhat╠╕: its opensource 23:17:03 i want to see another mapping service 23:17:26 Also. Want to see what I'm making? 23:17:39 hi every body 23:17:44 Yeah sure 23:17:50 I do 23:17:59 Mk, one sec. 23:18:10 Did this last night.. 23:18:15 hurry up 23:18:19 let me get some stuff set up though 23:18:19 stop dordiling 23:18:21 gimme like 5 mins 23:18:26 SHUTUP AND DO IT LREADY 23:18:43 :) 23:18:56 Well first, have you guys seen this? http://anonyops.com/livestream/ 23:18:59 i've lost interest. :( 23:19:04 I though daizee was zee when she added me 23:19:12 i was like dafuq 23:19:15 is that filler? anonyops did you just give us a filler while you do something else 23:19:33 But then she said she was single 23:19:36 No, that is background for what I'm about to show you :p 23:19:45 o ok 23:19:47 :D 23:19:53 huhhh 23:20:04 please i'm a student and i want to learn new things like hacking and security,can you give where to start 23:20:06 simple css with embedded 23:20:15 code plox 23:21:21 I want to add 23:21:22 ak-47_user - hacking is bad mmk? owasp.org is a good starting place 23:21:24 AND `servers_id` = $SID 23:21:48 to the sql query once the database is full with 300 * 160000 records 23:22:11 only practice "hacking" on machines you own or have explicit permission to access and mess with 23:22:19 48,000,000 23:22:23 Phew 23:22:30 that will take some proccessing power 23:22:37 Okay... guys here you go: http://anonyops.com/testing/ 23:22:39 zxcvbnm thanks a lot 23:22:48 Go quick though, cuz I am going to delete all this when I'm done showing you :p 23:23:06 ak-47_user : np, then check out blackhatacademy.net 23:23:08 Type in the box and hit send 23:23:11 zxcvbnm i have a VMware to try this 23:23:20 @Drwhat @zxcvbnm ^ 23:23:23 Yea, using VMware is good for trying this stuff 23:24:15 zxcvbnm ok thanks again 23:25:49 Back over here :p 23:25:51 You guys like? 23:25:56 imma find shit on that 23:26:02 imma break it 23:26:02 I do 23:26:03 *** zest has quit (Client exited) 23:26:08 I likey. 23:26:11 lol gl Drwhat 23:26:14 :) 23:26:21 Also, I'm toasting the page now... 23:26:26 and going to eat! 23:26:32 ... 23:26:45 he's pasting sqli cheat sheet into your input there 23:27:03 I know lol 23:27:07 lol 23:27:27 I think i broke it :( 23:27:28 Also, it's toasted now. And I am going to eat. Bbl! 23:27:34 No I deleted it drwhat haha 23:27:38 Ohhh 23:27:43 You're seeing my custom 404 page 23:27:45 lol 23:27:46 refresh the whole thing 23:27:52 No im seeing a broke page :/ 23:27:52 * zxcvbnm likes custom 404 23:27:53 later 23:27:57 thanks :) 23:27:59 there just a button 23:28:13 be back in like 30 23:28:26 will it be there for me to break 23:28:53 anyway 23:28:55 good bya 23:28:58 \away sleep! 23:29:02 herp 23:29:05 * DrWhat is away "Sleep!" • Log: on • Pager: off 23:29:05 *** DrWhat is now known as DrAway 23:32:51 *** ak-47_user has quit (User quit: Quitte) 23:57:10 back 23:57:24 nice