00:00:01 time travel 00:17:09 *** MK_FG has quit (Ping timeout) 00:18:55 i'm out see ya 00:19:04 *** zxcvbnm has quit (User quit: leaving) 00:19:15 *** MK_FG (MK_FG@MKFG-91968.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 00:25:43 *** maxQ has quit (Ping timeout) 00:44:27 I'm back 00:44:37 2.5 day binder 00:45:00 what i miss? 00:46:01 hai 00:53:07 *** ebola has quit (Ping timeout) 00:57:40 *** ebola (ebola@ebola.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 00:58:38 hola 01:05:57 PDO is your friend 01:05:58 Dont know how to use :( 01:05:58 k 01:06:02 learn to PDO 01:06:05 mysql_* is deprecated 01:06:07 don't use it 01:06:11 joepie is back! 01:06:15 yes hai 01:06:25 I rode Drwhat while you were gone :0 01:06:28 :)* 01:06:48 He was outputting raw data again :o 01:08:10 haha 01:08:40 "it comes from a trusted source!" 01:08:42 mfw 01:08:46 >trusted 01:08:47 >internet 01:08:48 >wut 01:13:33 >physically exchanging keys before trading data 01:13:40 >trusted internet 01:14:23 > guy you traded keys with turns out to be informant 01:14:23 > derp 01:24:09 >and yet your communications were secure 01:26:02 your comms are only as secure as the endpoint.. 02:01:23 *** ebola has quit (Ping timeout) 02:24:12 *** ebola (ebola@ebola.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 02:29:14 finally fingered out my bitcoin rpc... damn thing was using the wrong conf file 02:29:21 :P 02:30:48 lol 02:35:04 w00t 02:35:12 I have a working nick chooser on the chat box now 02:35:31 You can choose your own nick in the chat box now instead of just being "Anonymous" 02:35:34 gratzs 02:35:41 :) 02:36:02 Now I just need to get the comments going the other way lol 02:36:30 ORDER BY `id` DESC LIMIT 5 is making them move the opposite way of a chat box 02:40:53 why would you only grab the last 5 messages? 02:41:58 For right now, that's all that can be seen. I will make it scrollable later. 02:42:06 *** shadowdemon has quit (User quit: shadowdemon) 02:42:10 Then show more messages. 02:42:17 uh 02:42:22 you should probably do that now 02:42:30 as your entire 'how to make it display correctly' problem depends on that 02:42:56 oh? I must be thinking differently than you :p 02:42:59 there's some optimizations to be made anyway 02:43:00 yes 02:43:17 What is your idea then. 02:43:19 try this instead: 02:43:24 every X time, send a new request to server 02:43:27 with the latest timestamp 02:43:32 return all messages since that timestamp 02:43:38 and append them to the chatbox 02:43:42 then just scroll to the end via javascript 02:43:48 result: infinite backlog once on the page 02:43:51 and less bandwidth usage 02:44:01 plus less database load 02:44:02 Ah less queries, I see. 02:47:53 *** shadowdemon (alex@cryto-507D6D5.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 02:48:12 Won't there be a delay in comment sending though? 02:48:30 Unless X time was like 1 second. 02:48:47 Otherwise, when a user hits enter he won't see his comment until it checks again 02:49:30 why.. would you need to fetch the comment from the db 02:49:34 you already have it? 02:49:44 the user just entered it 02:50:06 Yes, but he will also need to see other user's comments. 02:50:13 so? 02:50:17 you're going to have that delay anyway 02:50:19 when using AJAX 02:50:56 If you have a, say 1 second check time, he will pretty much instantly see the comments from everyone on the page. 02:51:00 *** shadowdemon has quit (User quit: shadowdemon) 02:51:24 I have the idea we're miscommunicating here 02:51:29 me too lol 02:51:33 there is no inherent difference between the lag in your current method 02:51:36 and the method I'm proposing 02:51:44 my method just uses less resources 02:51:58 Then how would it reduce resource? It's still querying every second. 02:52:25 'queries' is not a resource.. 02:52:59 result: infinite backlog once on the page 02:52:59 and less bandwidth usage 02:52:59 plus less database load 02:54:23 Okay, so if I understand what you're saying, when a user joins in, they will only see what they sent and anything afterwards, not what was in there prior? 03:03:25 AnonyOps: on join, you could grab last 5-10 messages or so 03:03:36 but it doesn't reload the *entire* history every time it does an AJAX request 03:03:43 instead, it just gets the new messages since last ajax request 03:05:16 I see 03:18:44 *** aHlTat (aHlTat@aHlTat.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 03:24:27 *** HiveResearch (HiveResear@developers.developers.developers) has joined #crytocc 03:56:51 *** AnonyOps has quit (Connection reset by peer) 04:05:03 *** S1renide (S1renide@cryto-454686D9.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 04:06:24 *** S1renide has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 04:30:37 lady-3jane, e17 \o/ 04:31:17 MK_FG:) :D 04:31:49 I think I'd like it more if I sat down and tried to make it work a way I like :> 04:32:04 It's not bad though 04:32:48 I really like it 04:33:05 Nice to see it getting attention lately, with the release and all 04:33:35 Yep :< 04:33:38 :> * 04:33:40 Hopefully it won't steer away from being lite and damn fast due to that though 04:34:04 (aka gnome-3/unity-way) 05:08:08 e17 has redundant categories 05:08:14 needs fixing 05:08:31 and should use config files for more of their stuff 05:09:03 the only thing that keeps me on KDE is network manager 05:09:14 i mean i love KDE but 05:09:20 cmon 05:09:23 HUUGE 05:09:24 "redundant categories"? 05:09:32 You mean menus? 05:09:42 audio and audio apps i forget 05:09:49 yeah menus are fuxed 05:10:01 Oh, it's probably how they are in .desktop files 05:10:20 And e uses on-disk configs for everything 05:10:41 They're just serialized and compressed with eet 05:10:51 Try something like "eet -d ~/.e/e/config/standard/e.cfg config" 06:21:17 *** smithsonian has quit (Ping timeout) 06:33:25 oh I'm fuuuucked 06:33:36 *** smithsonian (vi.veri@veniversum.vivus.vici) has joined #crytocc 06:49:04 *** maxQ (john@maxQ.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 06:50:46 *** smithsonian has quit (Ping timeout) 06:51:04 Almost have depositing capabilitys up 06:51:34 is joepie91 around? 06:54:42 *** smithsonian (vi.veri@veniversum.vivus.vici) has joined #crytocc 07:09:59 *** frdmn (frdmn-espe@cryto-16933294.iwelt.de) has joined #crytocc 07:35:02 *** shadowdemon (alex@cryto-507D6D5.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 07:48:20 brain_works_better() when tummy_full=true 08:43:48 AnonyOps: WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS 08:43:52 ORDER BY `id` DESC LIMIT 5 08:43:57 no 08:44:07 if it's descending, the newest is at the top 08:44:15 in chat world the newest needs to be at the bottom 08:44:27 ascend that shit 08:44:31 and become 08:44:34 a 08:44:35 ninja turtle 08:46:13 *** shadowdemon has quit (User quit: shadowdemon) 10:26:09 *** AnonForecast_ (AnonForeca@cryto-999D5D74.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #crytocc 10:26:13 *** AnonForecast has quit (Connection reset by peer) 10:27:54 *** IR601 has quit (Ping timeout) 10:30:09 *** IR601 (IR601@cryto-68B0D61F.terrori.se) has joined #crytocc 10:33:09 penis 10:51:21 *** monod (none@cryto-220E6FFC.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #crytocc 10:51:33 aloa 11:38:17 *** Divinite_ (divinite@cryto-49204C99.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #crytocc 11:38:41 Divinite_: did you recieve my earlier messages? 11:39:10 twitchyliquid64: About a friend? 11:39:48 Uh oh 11:40:30 twitchyliquid64: I am on separate device to Divinite 11:43:01 *** Divinite_ has quit (User quit: Sarah has left :() 11:43:55 oh ok 11:44:11 yeah I was talking to your other connection 11:44:22 *** Divinite_ (divinite@cryto-49204C99.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #crytocc 11:44:36 twitchyliquid64: Still here? 11:44:42 Divinite_: yepp 11:44:59 twitchyliquid64: Send stuffs in PM? 11:45:06 Divinite_: WILCO 11:52:20 *** Divinite_ has quit (Client exited) 11:53:47 *** Divinite_ (divinite@cryto-49204C99.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #crytocc 11:54:01 twitchyliquid64: Sorry about that 11:54:14 Colloquy is a female dog at the best of times. 11:57:54 mmmm 11:58:33 As in a cookie! 12:01:21 Yay the API is making accounts with unique wallets referenced by account! I'm happy 12:02:19 What's this for wh1t3r4bb1t? 12:21:56 btc mutual 12:49:07 *** BLTGeno (BLTGeno4@D68C9ED.3BC0875E.71C5A468.IP) has joined #crytocc 13:05:03 *** T0R_till (T0R_till@cryto-454686D9.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 13:06:24 *** T0R_till has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 13:16:39 anyone wanna test this out and critique? 13:16:53 http://btcmutual.com 13:17:24 I'm currently working on the account manager 13:39:11 *** evilworks has quit (Ping timeout) 13:39:18 *** evilworks (evilworks@cryto-5A7E3879.dynamic.amis.hr) has joined #crytocc 14:11:59 *** monod has quit (User quit: Se sei felice non gridare troppo: la tristezza ha il sonno leggero. (thEDGE)) 14:18:15 Hrmmm bitcoind keeps crashing... need more RAM? I dunno maybe but it's pissing me off. 14:21:29 1gb should be plenty 14:41:45 Well, I installed monit and set it to watch bitcoind. I sleep and if bitcoind is down when I wak guess I need to investigate further. 14:41:53 good night 14:43:53 *** foolex has quit (Ping timeout) 14:50:56 *** foolex (foolex@78EA513B.7DC890E0.CEC56216.IP) has joined #crytocc 15:04:56 *** Cryto951 (Cryto951@cryto-3999CEE8.netvigator.com) has joined #crytocc 15:09:38 *** anonnews903 (anonnews90@CFE6A4CA.792D59C9.A856A7D6.IP) has joined #crytocc 15:20:27 *** n3xtMission (n3xtMissio@cryto-877E58F2.kimsufi.com) has joined #crytocc 15:36:05 *** Divinite_ has quit (Ping timeout) 15:39:01 *** n3xtMission has quit (User quit: ) 15:43:28 *** frdmn has quit (User quit: Linkinus - http://linkinus.com) 15:51:53 *** Divinite_ (divinite@cryto-49204C99.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #crytocc 16:02:36 *** Cryto951 has quit (User quit: Page closed) 16:03:03 *** Divinite_ has quit (Ping timeout) 16:04:22 *** HiveResearch has quit (Ping timeout) 16:09:43 *** Cryto521 (Cryto521@cryto-3999CEE8.netvigator.com) has joined #crytocc 16:11:37 alright, 1.5 pages on plato's republic down 16:12:00 I think it's supposed to be 2 pages, but he can eat shit. I've slammed all I need to 16:21:23 * DrAway is back [16h 52m 18s] 16:21:23 *** DrAway is now known as DrWhat 16:21:27 Hola 16:25:16 *** Cryto521 has quit (User quit: Page closed) 17:03:54 *** Divinite_ (divinite@cryto-49204C99.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #crytocc 17:07:10 *** Divinite_ has quit (Ping timeout) 17:11:56 *** Divinite_ (divinite@cryto-49204C99.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #crytocc 17:13:08 is joepie91 around? 17:13:08 yes, joepie is now 17:13:10 *** BLTGeno has quit (Ping timeout) 17:16:06 *** maxQ has quit (User quit: leaving) 17:19:02 *** maxQ (john@maxQ.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 17:29:36 *** zxcvbnm (zxcvbnm@zxcvbnm.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 17:30:13 morning and afternoon 17:32:53 *** Divinite_ has quit (Ping timeout) 17:40:42 *** BLTGeno (BLTGeno4@cryto-590FDA9.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #crytocc 17:41:33 *** Divinite_ (divinite@cryto-49204C99.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #crytocc 17:52:29 *** Divinite_ has quit (Ping timeout) 17:57:07 *** BLTGeno has quit (Client exited) 18:13:21 *** BLTGeno (BLTGeno4@cryto-590FDA9.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #crytocc 18:17:40 *** Divinite_ (divinite@cryto-49204C99.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #crytocc 18:25:19 *** BLTGeno has quit (Connection reset by peer) 18:25:41 *** BLTGeno (BLTGeno4@cryto-590FDA9.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #crytocc 18:35:01 I've got some results being spit out to me in Python in XML format and I want to do a couple things with it 18:35:19 I want to regex out a username which is contained in the results 18:36:08 Where is a good starting point? 18:40:05 interesting: http://blog.briancurtin.com/posts/why-i-dont-feel-so-bad.html 18:40:13 zxcvbnm: not using regex is a good start 18:40:23 while XML is admittedly a giant pain, regex is very unsuitable for parsing XML or SGML 18:40:28 or anything that derives from it 18:40:36 what kind of XML is it? 18:40:48 Well... I may be able to make it a little nicer, haven't actually seen if it will return tabled results 18:40:55 Im bored 18:40:56 Logs 18:41:06 I'll show you an example 18:41:31 do you guys have a preferred pasting site? 18:43:06 http://0bin.net/paste/519f5c1509dee9fe44551fac71929aa8ecaf4f48#uKfqvuOHns6T2FPm688BVrMF767OHxn8C9NtG3Yc5G8= 18:47:47 Ugh. I need to think of some different way to approach this. 18:48:45 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-7B09657A.ucsc.edu) has joined #crytocc 18:49:10 zxcvbnm: that... doesn't look like XML? 18:49:42 also, zxcvbnm, you know that stuff here is logged, right 18:49:49 and that you can keep things out of logs with [off] 18:50:06 I knew everything here is logged, didn't know about off 18:50:24 but I think I removed any sensitive info in that, if I didn't, should be ok.. 18:50:34 okay 18:50:36 anyway 18:50:40 right 18:50:45 loggy, pointer? 18:50:45 http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2013-02-20#T18-50-45 18:51:00 :) 18:51:12 but yeah, that doesn't look like XML, so I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to d.. 18:51:16 do * 18:51:29 I think I just need to keep pouring through these API docs 18:51:54 I use Splunk regularly, and am trying to set up an alerting mechanism via python 18:52:23 (btw, wh1t3r4bb1t, bitcoind should *not* need 1GB, so you might want to check what makes it crash... and submit a bug report) 18:52:34 zxcvbnm: that doesn't really clarify things for me :P 18:52:37 you say you need to parse XML 18:52:42 then as example you post an ordereddict structure 18:52:50 so what data exactly do you need to parse? 18:52:55 Well, that may have been wrong. I'm still trying to determine exactly how they are passing me the data back 18:53:14 The documentation says it spits it back in XML format 18:53:23 but, like you said, that clearly was not XML 18:53:27 but what you pasted is what you actually get? 18:53:33 because you can just use that as a dict 18:53:36 As of now, yes 18:55:26 I need to dig a little deeper and figure out what else is going on before I ask about that 18:55:43 I should be able to return results in a much nicer way 18:56:14 Because I can create tables that look real pretty in Splunk via the search queries, but what I want to do is send those usernames to the python script to send an e-mail to that user 18:56:37 That can't be done in Splunk natively, so passing an argument to the Python script will allow for dynamic e-mail recipients 18:57:59 Oh baby 18:58:03 Nailed it. 18:58:07 Now I can ask for your help. 18:58:31 This could be some really basic python question, which is cool because I need to learn some more fundamentals 18:58:55 http://0bin.net/paste/19eca5e0266f49ac91e52bfcb28d33b8f20c0e91#m8+/d1DWwv1D9ULxx8FngFA3Q41VwhbPwkAnyNAywCs= 18:59:22 Huhh? 18:59:22 Let's assume that the 'pid' value is 'jdoe' 18:59:23 Parse error: syntax error, unexpected '{' in C:\xampp\htdocs\mapsql\index.php on line 16 18:59:33 line 16 18:59:34 if (!isset($_POST['SID']){ 19:00:01 Missing a ")" ? 19:00:14 ahh 19:00:49 *** Divinite_ has quit (Ping timeout) 19:01:09 So if the 'pid' value is 'jdoe' I want to append '@example.com' to it, and pass that to a script that will e-mail to jdoe@example.com 19:02:59 zxcvbnm: the pid value will never be jdoe, however 19:03:03 because it's a process id 19:03:09 joepie91: Aye, this is an example :) 19:03:30 anyway, you should be able to just do data['pid'] 19:03:30 joepie91: I'll be doing this on Windows systems mostly, where the Winevent logs display RDP & account name 19:03:33 like it's a dict 19:04:14 if data['pid'] == "jdoe": do_something() 19:04:48 if data['pid'] == not null 19:06:57 * zxcvbnm brb 19:07:36 *** monod (none@cryto-220E6FFC.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #crytocc 19:10:07 joepie91: ) 19:10:24 go on my ip 19:10:32 into folder mapsql 19:12:06 *** Divinite_ (divinite@cryto-49204C99.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #crytocc 19:13:08 Uhh hold on 19:13:10 XD 19:14:36 Ok now its better :) 19:34:21 http://prntscr.com/ti0vp 19:34:21 [19:31:29] ╒╣DrWhat╠╕: http://prntscr.com/ti0xi 19:34:26 :) 19:37:10 *** Divinite_ has quit (Connection reset by peer) 19:45:24 *** zest (zest@232E8757.4877DC3.92496627.IP) has joined #crytocc 19:46:08 *** shadowdemon (alex@cryto-507D6D5.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 19:46:17 *** Divinite_ (divinite@cryto-49204C99.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #crytocc 19:57:30  19:57:32 http://prntscr.com/ti4yv 19:57:33 :) 20:08:54 *** pzuraq has quit (Input/output error) 20:16:28 hmmmm 20:16:40 joepie91 20:16:45 How to make next button? 20:17:02 to do limit 250,500 then 500,750 and so on 20:17:08 in sql 20:17:38 and read pages 20:17:59 so it can say |< < 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 > >| 20:18:07 |< fisrt 20:18:10 < previous 20:18:16 1-9 page 20:18:18 > next 20:18:21 >| last 20:19:33 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-7B09657A.ucsc.edu) has joined #crytocc 20:35:41 *** zest has quit (User quit: Leaving) 20:38:27 DrWhat: wat 20:38:38 didn't you just basically answer your own question 20:38:38 :| 20:38:47 O_O 20:38:51 Noooo 20:40:13 How to make it do new 250 limit 20:40:14 *** AnonyOps (anony_ops@cryto-5167D786.woh.res.rr.com) has joined #crytocc 20:40:24 Hi anonyops can i hax your site yet :) 20:40:27 each time 20:40:36 nope 20:40:37 Also count pages 20:40:53 Also know what limit each page is 20:40:54 also 20:41:10 keep current query 20:41:17 say if a user searches something 20:41:22 and they click next 20:41:34 i dont want it to go on page 2 of a blank search... 20:41:44 *** joepie92 (joepie91@cryto-A6766B2C.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 20:41:49 *** joepie91 has quit (Ping timeout) 20:41:51 OH FUCK MY LIFE 20:42:11 Im not saying it all again 20:42:14 :| 20:43:00 jesus DrWhat 20:43:00 relax 20:43:04 *** joepie91_ has quit (Ping timeout) 20:43:05 we have public logging here.. 20:43:32 *** joepie91_ (joepie91@cryto-A6766B2C.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 20:44:05 test 20:44:11 DrWhat: all this is basic maths? 20:44:30 $start = $page * $items_per_page; 20:44:40 $start,$items_per_page 20:44:40 ? 20:44:58 and what's wrong with a simple COUNT(*) query to get the amount of rows 20:45:20 you should really be able to put these pieces together by yourself.. 20:45:26 pagination does not involve any advanced concepts 20:45:30 just the combination of a few basic concepts 20:47:39 joepie92: those results were being returned in a dict called results. I didn't find that out til later, now its easy to spit out the individual values 20:47:39 *** zest (zest@232E8757.4877DC3.92496627.IP) has joined #crytocc 20:49:06 14[048:43:02pm14] 14(0415joepie9214)00 relax 20:49:06 14[048:43:06pm14] 14• 14Quit:04 joepie91_ 14(04joepie91@cryto-A6766B2C.direct-adsl.nl14) has quit irc04 14(04Ping timeout14) 20:49:06 14[048:43:07pm14] 14(0415joepie9214)00 we have public logging here.. 20:49:10 Oh right 20:49:11 Yeah eyah 20:51:43 AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'append' 20:51:50 "relax drwhat we publicly log everything you say" 20:51:55 :| 20:51:57 How to append string to a value? 20:52:05 in a dict. or all values. 20:53:51 print (result['pid']) works fine. I want to append @example.com to the end of each value 20:54:10 zxcvbnm: you could *theoretically* do result['pid'] += "@example.com" 20:54:16 but you'll want to consider whether that is REALLY what you want to do 20:54:23 read: do you want to change the source data permanently 20:54:25 destroying the original data 20:54:31 the answer is probably not, unless you have a good reason for it 20:54:35 *** joepie92 is now known as joepie91 20:55:08 couldn't I do it just the same as... result2 = result['pid'] += "@example.com" 20:55:11 and retain the original 20:55:57 And you're right, I'd rather keep the original data because I will be referencing it later not as data@example.com 20:56:21 Hey joe how do you like how i changed the layout of evomap 20:56:35 insted of having the main html and a buntch of exit() 20:56:47 suck 20:56:50 my 20:56:51 cock 20:57:20 i now have defined variabled storing html so i can build the page as the user broswes 20:57:59 https://github.com/DrWhatNoName/EvoMap/blob/Experment/include/search.inc.php 20:58:02 couldn't I do it just the same as... result2 = result['pid'] += "@example.com" 20:58:03 and retain the original 20:58:03 yes 20:58:06 that is the better option 20:58:15 DrWhat: I have not looked at it yet and will later 20:58:21 currently working on something 21:00:34 oh god damn it 21:00:47 maria will do anything for me to work 21:01:01 She descovered more info that she get from the craper 21:01:09 and so i have to change the sql structer 21:01:15 and all the queries :| 21:05:03 *** MRdjst0rm (MRdjst0rm@cryto-454686D9.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 21:05:43 MRdjst0rm was last seen on #crytocc as "T0R_till", 8hrs 1sec ago 21:06:08 I keep getting these 21:06:21 *** Divinite_ has quit (User quit: Sarah has left :() 21:06:23 *** MRdjst0rm has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 21:06:40 Sucka a username from amazon connected excaly so many hours ago under a diffrent name 21:06:44 then disconnects 21:06:45 it's a biot 21:06:48 bot * 21:06:49 we are aware 21:06:51 :P 21:07:14 Let me see if i can find my seen log 21:07:27 I know, it uses a few nicks 21:07:28 anyway 21:07:33 DrWhat, what I was working on: http://owely.com/31lMZv3 21:07:45 the intro 'comic' for redonate, project I'm busy with atm 21:08:17 is that alundering 21:08:23 Lundering* 21:08:27 wat? 21:08:30 otherwords begging 21:08:40 asking people to donate 21:08:47 I think you're messing up more than one definition there 21:08:58 prolly am 21:09:30 "laundering" == the only definition I am aware of is a criminal definition, being trying to remove traces of where money comes from 21:09:42 "begging" == asking for money without providing anything for which one would get that money 21:09:59 "donations" == a voluntary transfer of money (or goods or services) as appreciation of something that was provided 21:10:03 neither of the three are the same thing 21:10:11 why not just ban *@*amazonaws.com 21:10:21 the bot is not helping the cryto 21:10:22 why would I ban amazon AWS? 21:10:27 and it making me anxus 21:10:43 it could be moliouscious 21:10:52 (really, you need a client with spellcheck) 21:10:59 It does 21:11:01 and how exactly is a bot going to be malicious 21:11:08 this is a publicly logged channel 21:11:11 But it only spellchecks afk, bbl, brb, etc etc 21:11:14 :P 21:11:16 .. 21:11:22 i turned them off becuase they was annoying 21:11:43 it could be... 21:11:48 * joepie91 sighs 21:12:02 why would a bot join under diffrent nucks every few hours for 5 seconds.... 21:12:50 its tring somthing 21:13:15 it wouldnt join just to disconnect 21:13:19 its trying to do somthing 21:13:44 and under diffent nicks it what makes me so worked up about it 21:15:17 Current bandwidth: [Downstream: 1.07KB/s] × [Upstream: 6.1KB/s] 21:15:24 woo i have bandwidth :) 21:15:37 Not a lot tho :/ 21:17:14 loggy, logs? 21:17:21 lol 21:17:24 hm. 21:17:49 *** zxcvbnm has parted #crytocc (None) 21:17:52 *** zxcvbnm (zxcvbnm@zxcvbnm.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 21:20:57 joepie91: What's the best server linux? 21:21:11 YAY 21:21:47 Yes Anything with Yum 21:22:47 Divinite: I'm currently using Debian, have had bad experiences with CentOS 21:23:03 FreeBSD 21:23:08 I just got an email saysing cispa is back 21:23:11 is this true? 21:23:23 zxcvbnm: wut 21:23:56 pzuraq: wut in what way 21:24:19 Never used FreeBSD, never heard it recommended for server 21:24:24 can you even run it in a VPS? 21:25:00 pzuraq: From a stability and security standpoint, FreeBSD/OpenBSD are pretty ideal if you can do it from the ground up 21:27:00 I'm not sure about deployment, but I know my heavy-linux dudes recommend it above all. 21:27:06 What scenario would you be using it in 21:27:54 my own VPS, and the company I'm working for 21:28:01 deploying a Ruby based web-app 21:28:12 probably using nginx 21:28:17 Our guys use CentOS for all the Ruby servers 21:28:52 We have some pretty heavy web traffic too 21:29:47 But I know that many would prefer OpenBSD/FreeBSD if it were a ground-up situation 21:30:27 Once you set them up, by design they shouldn't ever have to go down for a reboot 21:30:55 Woowwww 21:31:10 I'm thinking Ubuntu 21:31:14 Someone just reported my domain for invalid whois 21:31:14 I know exactly who it is 21:31:49 What versions of Ubuntu have you used? 21:32:21 I used 12 briefly. Currently I use Debian but some fellow web devs are recommending Ubuntu 21:33:22 I really liked Ubuntu 10.04 LTS 21:33:25 After that... I really hated it 21:33:41 I switched over to CentOS and have tried Arch, Mint.. few others 21:33:51 *** shadowdemon has parted #crytocc () 21:34:11 If you're not super pressured, I'd recommend grabbing a cloud server account if you can and spin up various different instances to see which you like 21:34:18 If you're going to be one of the primary users 21:34:22 See what you really like. 21:34:32 Yeah 21:34:39 I've tried all of those, and Arch was definitely my favorite 21:34:43 I recommend digitalocean for testing 21:34:44 but I would never use it for a server 21:34:57 It's like 6c/hour for a huge server 21:35:05 you get $1.25 free 21:35:17 simply too much configuration. Unless it was my personal server, I wouldn't do it. 21:35:18 I use rackspace 21:35:25 I've got a VPS with cinfu 21:35:31 they're... cheap :P 21:35:57 lots of payment options 21:36:51 I like Debian and Ubuntu. Hated CentOS 5 - outdated repos, random and weird structuring compared to deb/ubuntu, etc. 21:37:04 wow 21:37:10 cinfu *is* cheap 21:37:17 Ubuntu seems to be more on the bleeding edge, which is a double edged sword. 21:37:25 Ubuntu is bloaty 21:37:33 as a server? 21:37:53 and can you remove said bloat? 21:38:31 imo no because to me it isn't designed to be a server 21:38:36 it is meant to be a workstation 21:38:43 pzuraq: Debian 21:38:46 also fuck yum 21:38:50 and anything even remotely like centos 21:38:51 ^^ :D 21:38:53 or red hat anything 21:39:05 because fuck RH 21:39:05 lol 21:39:12 lol 21:39:17 also, zxcvbnm, you can do either of these two: 21:39:19 loggy, pointer? 21:39:19 http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2013-02-20#T21-39-19 21:39:22 loggy, help? 21:39:22 I'm a Python IRC logging bot. Source: http://inamidst.com/code/loggy.py Logging to: http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/ 21:39:29 ty 21:39:36 pointer will give you pointer to right now 21:39:45 anyway, WIP but still: http://awesomescreenshot.com/0adye5d1b 21:40:05 imagine giant sign up button in bottom right corner 21:41:52 joepie91: The one reason I'm considering Ubuntu over Debian is the LTS releases 21:41:57 5 years of support vs 3 21:42:14 I thought debian had 4-5 years support as well? 21:42:22 hell, even now security patches are still being backported for debian 5 21:42:25 afaik 21:42:53 debian supports each major version 1 year past the release of the next latest version 21:42:57 awesomescreenshot is rad! 21:43:19 so 6.0 will be supported one year after the release of 7.0 21:43:41 awesomescreenshot is okay, but I really only use it for full-page screenshots 21:43:44 becauase Owely can't do that 21:43:56 I'm not terribly impressed with awesomescreenshot's shitty result paghe 21:43:57 page * 21:44:01 with the half-assed zoom thing going on 21:44:10 you never get an exactly 100% size screenshot 21:44:12 so it blurs all the stuff 21:44:24 otherwise, Owely > AwesomeScreenshot 21:44:26 by miles 21:44:33 pzuraq: right 21:46:14 hmm 21:46:41 as long as it isn't too difficult to update to a new major version I think I'd go with Debian... 21:57:43 well 21:57:51 they don't have Ubuntu 12.04 as an option 21:57:54 Debian it is! 22:00:17 oh, okay then joepie :) actually I never used them, yet I thought the idea of screenshotting the browser view is really nice 22:02:32 monod: it is 22:02:37 I'd actually love for Owely to have that 22:02:38 :P 22:05:48 *** pzuraq has quit (Input/output error) 22:08:10 Anyone have a good resource for utilizing Python to send e-mail through exchange server? 22:13:26 *** zest has quit (Client exited) 22:15:10 *** AnonyOps has quit (Ping timeout) 22:18:50 * joepie91 has no idea 22:18:50 *** AnonyOps (anony_ops@cryto-5167D786.woh.res.rr.com) has joined #crytocc 22:18:56 wb AnonyOps 22:21:25 ty 22:21:54 *** AnonyOps has quit (Ping timeout) 22:22:14 *** AnonyOps (anony_ops@cryto-5167D786.woh.res.rr.com) has joined #crytocc 22:22:21 lol 22:22:26 anonyops got some net problems 22:22:34 so it would appear 22:23:14 yep :( 22:23:25 had to reset router 22:23:51 damn gir; 22:24:13 FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU 22:24:24 WHY DID I JUST DO THAT!?!?!?!? 22:24:25 was that called for... 22:24:36 I'm an idiot right now... 22:24:43 no 22:24:45 I was backing up that failing drive (still) 22:24:45 Your a drunk 22:24:57 and I accidentallied explorer.exe 22:25:00 YOU'RE A DRUNK! 22:25:06 when it was half way done 22:25:13 sigh 22:25:27 * DrWhat points and laughs at the drunk 22:25:59 hopefully I can have it skip the ones that are already on there.. 22:26:19 wait 22:26:29 doesnt thingy have a partition recovery tool 22:26:47 joepie91 whats the distro that i use to manaage drives? 22:27:01 i dont know what it called ebcuase the version i have is russian 22:27:20 that has a drive recovery tool 22:27:40 i used it on a 128gb flash drive that desided it was null 22:27:51 found out it was fake :( 22:27:57 accualy 16gb 22:28:15 witch is why it nulled 22:28:25 i put more stuff on there then it had room for 22:29:13 lol 22:30:43 that what you get for buying stuff from china 22:30:59 the data on it couldnt be recovered 22:31:11 but i recovered the accual drive 22:31:16 I'm transferring it off right now... 22:31:21 know need for that. 22:31:26 It's just really slow 22:31:32 Idk how it's still kicking. 22:31:37 kick it 22:31:46 I think that if I unplug it and put it back in, it will die. 22:32:22 yeah 22:32:25 most probably ^^ 22:32:28 ops 22:32:46 "^^" was for "the 2-rows-above message" 22:32:49 not * 22:32:58 not "smiling" ^_^ 22:33:14 sorry, embarrasing typos today :S 22:35:02 lol 22:41:17 that what you get for buying stuff from china 22:41:19 no 22:41:24 that's what you get for not paying attention to what you're buying 22:41:25 lol 22:41:31 has nothing to do with china 22:44:55 http://awesomescreenshot.com/062yehedd 22:52:43 joepie91: Looks good aesthetically. 22:53:56 If it were me personally, I'd get a proof-reader. 22:54:14 Some stuff is too wordy in there 22:54:26 imo 22:54:59 well it was still fake and it was from china 22:55:22 128gb flash drive for $50 22:55:24 :) 22:55:37 i was like hell yeah 22:55:44 there was 256gb as well 22:55:51 but i though that was too big 22:55:54 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-7B09657A.ucsc.edu) has joined #crytocc 22:57:17 she thought it was too big aswell 22:57:21 it didnt fit 22:59:11 [8:45:01pm] (joepie92) and what's wrong with a simple COUNT(*) query to get the amount of rows 22:59:24 mysql_num_rows() 22:59:25 :) 22:59:44 why do 2 queries 22:59:56 when you can count the output once the query has been done 23:05:24 also joe 23:05:29 When are you updateing the front page 23:05:33 Its getting dusty 23:07:26 *** anonnews903 has quit (Ping timeout) 23:11:53 mysql_num_rows() 23:11:54 that 23:12:01 I use that all the time 23:12:11 :p 23:13:51 i used it the evomap 23:33:35 *** pzuraq has quit (Input/output error) 23:49:45 how to see if a website is being DDOS'd? 23:49:48 how to *check*, well 23:50:20 monod: brute force, check packet loss 23:50:33 ping= 23:50:36 pign? 23:50:36 ping* 23:50:37 monod: slowloris, look at num of fd's/threads (apache) 23:50:39 monod: yes 23:51:08 Ok, thanks, checking now.... 23:51:29 It pings correctly 23:51:39 0% loss? 23:52:02 Precisely. 23:52:04 D 23:52:08 :D 23:52:21 chech your server load 23:52:22 whats it at? 23:52:38 Don't know :( 23:52:47 it's www.planetside2.eu tho.. 23:52:48 go into shell/bash 23:52:54 type 'top' 23:53:05 err, win at the moment :D 23:53:08 *dows 23:53:11 puTTy? 23:53:23 on windows? 23:53:38 you could do an nmap scan on it too see how it responds 23:53:47 if you're using windows 23:53:55 nmap on which ports? 23:53:58 standards 1-1000? 23:54:17 Hmm... 23:55:33 *googling for info&news* 23:59:56 bah... I'll retry another day