00:06:00 lady-3jane : according to WhatFont, http://owely.com/1t2oX3 00:06:37 Okay because liberation serif looks fucking beautiful on my end 00:09:38 lady-3jane Lady be that? 00:10:09 DrWhat:) Why do you keep asking that, and how am I supposed to answer/interpret it? 00:10:44 yes or no 00:10:48 :) 00:10:58 It's not a grammatically correct question 00:12:39 ^ 00:12:57 Im drwhat 00:13:00 It doesnt have to be 00:13:25 Its queit simple 00:13:26 Then I'm not answering it, punk 00:13:28 Layd be that? 00:13:56 Im not a punk 00:13:59 I hate punks 00:14:08 I rape punks in the morning 00:14:15 * joepie91 sighs 00:14:21 DrWhat: you need either sleep or code 00:14:24 go get it 00:14:26 :P 00:14:35 Its to early to sleep 00:14:38 and to late to code 00:14:54 I do other stuff too 00:15:34 joepie91: you might like some of these 00:15:37 http://lapfox.bandcamp.com/album/atomizer 00:16:12 FiaB 00:16:53 noone, you may like some of these: http://www.youtube.com/user/DJRaptureMusic/videos?view=0 00:17:40 listening 00:18:31 *** maxQ has quit (User quit: leaving) 00:19:21 *** maxQ (john@cryto-BD1C62A5.privacyfoundation.ch) has joined #crytocc 00:28:30 Coffee rush will enable me to solve this problem with asshat's code. :D 00:29:58 caffine is coding juice 00:45:14 CAWPHEE 00:47:32 Matrix: downloaded sublime text 00:47:36 used open folder 00:47:38 segfault 00:47:41 not a very good start.. 00:51:55 autocomplete does not attempt to autocomplete the object member function I was trying to type 00:51:56 again, not a very good start 00:52:25 joepie91: 00:52:30 few pointers 00:52:32 Matrix itc 00:52:33 you might not like them 00:52:40 Sublime is a text editor, not an idea :P 00:52:50 most of the autocompletion is actually done with plugins 00:53:06 SublimeCodeIntel supplies PHP/Ruby/PERL/Python auto completion 00:53:13 so i suggest looking up at plugins really 00:53:23 some people don't really like this, but i enjoy it. 00:53:40 the segfault problem is something some people have 00:53:43 nobody is sure why 00:53:44 does not have a settings GUI 00:53:49 hahaha 00:53:50 yeah. 00:53:52 really 00:53:56 it should have this shit by default 00:54:03 at the very least shipped with an included plugin 00:54:13 10 minutes in, and I'm considering going back to Geany 00:54:17 despite all the fancy interface things 00:54:20 in Sublime Text 00:54:21 well 00:54:27 try out some plugins 00:54:36 sorry, I don't want my editor to turn into plugin walhalla 00:54:40 hahaha 00:54:46 i knew you where that kind of guy :) 00:54:46 or waste time on finding those plugins in the first place 00:54:57 Sublime is like a pretty GUI version of VIM/Emacs 00:55:44 or even writing them 00:55:44 also, clone line shortcut is an extra key 00:55:44 shift+ctrl+D instead of ctrl+D (Geany) 00:55:44 also very annoying 00:55:44 evaluation of Sublime Text, ten minutes in: great idea, great attempts, but failing on basic points 00:55:44 unsuitable as my code editor 00:56:05 sigh. 00:57:28 Matrix, side by side of Geany and ST 00:57:28 http://owely.com/5AlhTO 00:57:36 with similar color scheme 00:58:06 *** Divinite_ (divinite@cryto-384C580A.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net) has joined #crytocc 00:58:23 sublime is a lot prettier 01:00:03 * joepie91 wants open-source Sublime Text with sensible defaults, sensible shortkeys for common tasks, proper autocompletion, settings GUI, no stupid segfaults 01:00:18 joepie91: IMO, Sublime got a better color scheme there 01:00:24 and i am no fan of the toolbar geany got 01:00:29 * zxcvbnm wants his python code to be executed 01:00:31 but that applies to all editors i use 01:00:32 Matrix: I'm not quite sure whether the Geany color scheme is even complete 01:00:35 not normally using it anyway 01:00:42 joepie91: dosnt look like it 01:00:42 it's something I pulled from a random dotfile repo 01:00:52 just look at the if line 01:00:59 1 color is not normal 01:01:29 my regular color scheme: http://owely.com/41dnpF8 01:01:43 did you try ctrl+shift+p? 01:01:48 am I weird for using the default color scheme? 01:01:49 just look it over? 01:01:54 Matrix, to do what? 01:01:58 lady-3jane: nah monokai is awsome 01:02:02 What colour scheme is that 01:02:05 joepie91: you can access all settings from there 01:02:13 eh, that's commands 01:02:15 not settings 01:02:20 DrWhat: ? 01:02:23 settings and commands* 01:02:54 I use geany because it's most-like notepad++ 01:03:21 also, Matrix, if you ever have to work with Geany 01:03:23 cc lady-3jane 01:03:23 https://github.com/ciembor/dotfiles/tree/master/.config/geany/colorschemes 01:03:28 you're welcome :P 01:03:56 repo of textmate schemes and corresponding geany schemes 01:04:05 notbad 01:04:06 what's textmate 01:04:11 I would consider sublime IF it was in my context menu 01:04:14 But it isnt 01:04:17 hahaha 01:04:19 :) 01:04:19 And notepad++ is 01:04:27 lady-3jane: OSX editor thingie 01:04:29 So is git 01:04:40 right, brb 01:04:46 ahh 01:05:09 Funny thing is 01:05:09 http://sublimetext.userecho.com/topic/43345-windows-context-menu-right-click-edit-with-sublime-notepad-style/ 01:05:20 THAT GUY HAS ALMOST THE SAME CONTEXT MENU AS ME 01:05:43 HE USED hg AND git 01:05:46 thats bad :/ 01:06:13 way too many context menu items, yes 01:06:29 * Matrix uses Linux 01:06:32 no context menus 01:06:44 my right click is a favorites menu 01:06:52 I learned that by accident :D 01:07:04 I need to figure out how to edit it... I can add but not remove 01:07:22 DOOMED!!!!!!!!!! 01:08:10 i'm officially stopping working on thant tonight. 01:08:11 baha 01:08:11 SHD 01:08:12 :( 01:08:54 see you guys next week 01:08:55 *** zxcvbnm has quit (User quit: leaving) 01:09:47 holy fuck e17 has a lot of menus 01:09:56 I just found an entire other subsystem of menus 01:10:05 * lady-3jane clicks 01:11:00 HAHA FUCK YEAH 01:11:04 I have a taskbar now 01:11:09 fuck all yall motherfuckers 01:12:23 I would also use it if this wouldnt happen 01:12:23 http://prntscr.com/ts96h 01:13:13 lel 01:17:31 * Matrix uses Linux 01:17:31 no context menus 01:17:38 pretty sure there are file managers that support custom context menus 01:17:39 but okay 01:17:49 also, this is a little annoying, I can't find my flashlight anywhere 01:18:09 I mean, my room isn't *that* big 01:18:27 oh, found it I think 01:18:39 ... under my desk 01:18:48 ya 01:18:53 got it :P 01:20:36 yay :3 01:20:38 *** Divinite_ has quit (haless.cryto.net second-nexus.cryto.net) 01:20:38 *** wh1t3r4bb1t has quit (haless.cryto.net second-nexus.cryto.net) 01:20:38 *** grazhopr has quit (haless.cryto.net second-nexus.cryto.net) 01:20:38 *** evilworks has quit (haless.cryto.net second-nexus.cryto.net) 01:20:38 *** AnonForecast has quit (haless.cryto.net second-nexus.cryto.net) 01:20:38 *** MK_FG has quit (haless.cryto.net second-nexus.cryto.net) 01:20:38 *** IR601 has quit (haless.cryto.net second-nexus.cryto.net) 01:20:38 *** maxQ has quit (haless.cryto.net second-nexus.cryto.net) 01:20:38 *** noone has quit (haless.cryto.net second-nexus.cryto.net) 01:20:38 *** Matrix has quit (haless.cryto.net second-nexus.cryto.net) 01:20:38 *** ryan has quit (haless.cryto.net second-nexus.cryto.net) 01:20:38 *** syla-jain has quit (haless.cryto.net second-nexus.cryto.net) 01:20:38 *** AppleJack has quit (haless.cryto.net second-nexus.cryto.net) 01:20:38 *** Kamonra has quit (haless.cryto.net second-nexus.cryto.net) 01:20:38 *** joepie91_ has quit (haless.cryto.net second-nexus.cryto.net) 01:20:38 *** smithsonian has quit (haless.cryto.net second-nexus.cryto.net) 01:20:38 *** Divinite has quit (haless.cryto.net second-nexus.cryto.net) 01:20:38 *** crates has quit (haless.cryto.net second-nexus.cryto.net) 01:20:38 *** ebola has quit (haless.cryto.net second-nexus.cryto.net) 01:20:38 *** shikat has quit (haless.cryto.net second-nexus.cryto.net) 01:20:38 *** truetravesty has quit (haless.cryto.net second-nexus.cryto.net) 01:20:38 *** jamesbt has quit (haless.cryto.net second-nexus.cryto.net) 01:20:57 Well that was rude O_O 01:21:03 fixing something 01:21:13 *** SpaghettiCode changed the topic to: "Cryto Coding Collective | THIS IS A PUBLICLY LOGGED CHANNEL. http://wire.cryto.net/logs | http://cryto.net/, http://forums.cryto.net/ | Rules: no Anonymous, no cracking, no drama | Online Flash IDE: http://wonderfl.net/about/ | Cryto Research: http://research.cryto.net/ | RIP Aaron Swartz" 01:21:13 *** SpaghettiCode (pasta@code.bonanza) has joined #crytocc 01:21:28 Maybe a heads up out the question? 01:21:57 there's more than just #crytocc on here 01:22:03 and seeing as 'no services' is the thing I'm trying to fix 01:22:04 completely out of the question :3 01:22:05 no globals either 01:22:07 >.> 01:22:08 *** maxQ (john@cryto-BD1C62A5.privacyfoundation.ch) has joined #crytocc 01:22:08 *** Matrix (hackbook@4DD35523.6464AF6B.F0DF4C69.IP) has joined #crytocc 01:22:08 *** ryan (h@cryto-7D39AC80.static.srsvps.com) has joined #crytocc 01:22:08 *** syla-jain (syla-jain@cryto-8772EFDB.red-2-136-99.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) has joined #crytocc 01:22:08 *** AppleJack (ja@cryto-A18B0645.drama.tw) has joined #crytocc 01:22:08 *** Kamonra (kamonra@cryto-348E1525.hostedby.us) has joined #crytocc 01:22:08 *** joepie91_ (joepie91@cryto-A6766B2C.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 01:22:08 *** smithsonian (vi.veri@veniversum.vivus.vici) has joined #crytocc 01:22:08 *** Divinite (root@Divinite.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 01:22:09 *** wh1t3r4bb1t (antarctica@cryto-497FB66D.direcpc.com) has joined #crytocc 01:22:09 *** grazhopr (grazhopr@7DEAE20A.AA517E7E.DB3C1458.IP) has joined #crytocc 01:22:09 *** evilworks (evilworks@cryto-11553D17.dynamic.amis.hr) has joined #crytocc 01:22:09 *** AnonForecast (AnonForeca@AnonForecast.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 01:22:09 *** MK_FG (MK_FG@MKFG-91968.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 01:22:09 *** IR601 (IR601@cryto-68B0D61F.terrori.se) has joined #crytocc 01:22:15 there we go 01:22:21 now we just wait for, as usual, buffalo 01:22:38 * lady-3jane whispers sweet nothings into buffalo's ear 01:22:49 it doesn't deserve that 01:22:55 like at least half the splits on here is caused by buffalo 01:23:00 would a paddle be more appropriate? 01:23:04 yes 01:23:08 I can do a paddle 01:23:15 ok fuck it, I'll relink manually 01:23:16 fine.avi 01:23:24 *** noone (Nijaxor@D8063FE8.DA3E8586.A0534C64.IP) has joined #crytocc 01:23:24 *** crates (crates@cryto-7FDC2D28.snydernet.net) has joined #crytocc 01:23:24 *** ebola (ebola@ebola.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 01:23:24 *** shikat (shikat@cryto-6540B885.yourvserver.net) has joined #crytocc 01:23:24 *** truetravesty (truetraves@cryto-939AEFE0.d33p.shit.la) has joined #crytocc 01:23:24 *** jamesbt (jamesbt@E62F62BC.DCD17C32.959A841C.IP) has joined #crytocc 01:23:26 * lady-3jane gets a paddle with holes 01:23:31 there 01:23:33 wb noone 01:23:35 \o/ 01:23:37 ty :3 01:23:40 and everyone else on the other side of the split 01:23:56 we should have services again niow 01:23:59 now * 01:24:05 woo~ 01:24:14 woohoo~ 01:24:37 yeah man, I have a taskbar now 01:24:38 fuck year 01:25:13 my task bar is on the left side of my screen 01:25:14 how about you guys? 01:26:12 I didn't have one previous to 3 minutes ago 01:28:29 ahh 01:28:38 the UI is starting to feel more like home 01:28:38 :> 01:31:19 Yeah this is much nicer 01:32:23 (if someone can give me a way to write DE/WM in HTML/CSS/JS, I will make the best DE ever) 01:32:40 :P 01:32:57 figure out how to bind v8 to xorg 01:33:06 jesus that was a bad thing to say 01:33:08 that's sort of the part that I'm probably not going to figure out 01:33:10 lol 01:33:15 you'd actually want to hook up webkit 01:33:19 not just v8 01:33:22 * lady-3jane nods 01:33:30 but but WINDOW OBJECTS 01:33:47 * lady-3jane accidentally the entire desktop with a missing semicolon 01:34:57 fuckin sweet 01:35:13 this UI is quite close to good now 01:35:19 also it's NOTHING like unity 01:35:20 hahahahaha 01:36:21 and now the taskbar slides left instead of right 01:36:56 oh fuck, I could totally put a left bar as a launch bar... and have it autohide 01:37:02 e17 would be totally chill with that 01:40:36 also FUCK YEAH MRU alt-tab menu 01:43:48 Fiiiiinalllllyyyyeyeyeyeye 01:45:07 Got that uploader to work. Just as I suspected blueimp is distributing broken code in his git. What a fucking jerk for closing this topic out. 01:46:13 It's wine-o-clock, guys 01:48:30 You better be serving cheese too! 01:49:18 what the fuck? 01:49:32 I'm drinking it out of the bottle, why would I serve cheese 01:50:01 I'll put my pinky finger up too, while I'm at it #stayclassy 01:50:11 back 01:50:50 Lol 01:50:56 sup twitchy 01:51:00 nm u? 01:53:00 NP: [Alanis Morissette - Head Over Feet] [Jagged Little Pill] [957kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane 01:54:39 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5267990 02:34:49 joepie91 02:34:54 taste me 02:34:56 Love me 02:36:23 fuck yeah! 02:36:27 I'm getting points and comments 02:37:01 *** noone has quit (User quit: Leaving) 02:37:15 Now look what you've done 02:37:44 hmmm 02:37:49 I wan to go to jupiter 02:40:00 so 02:40:11 *apparently* Google is planning to roll out Google Fiber in Canada 02:40:19 * joepie91 sits back and waits for ISP shitstorm 02:40:35 the 1gbps kind? 02:40:59 isp shitstorm? 02:41:00 why? 02:41:04 It's fucking amazing 02:41:11 -.- 02:41:25 Whats fucking amazing for you is 3 fingers 02:41:28 say what you want about google, but 1gbps for 70/mo is awesome no matter which way you cut it 02:41:46 Three? 02:41:49 Only three? 02:41:52 Only 3 :) 02:42:12 If you're not a pussy you can fit the whole fist in 02:42:13 Only 3 and you are mind blown 02:43:00 Be lucky i said 3 insted of 2 02:43:06 I could of said 1 02:43:11 But im not a jerk off 02:44:39 1gbps down 02:44:43 but whats the upload stats 02:45:14 google wont touch england 02:45:19 virgin has it too locked up :) 02:46:37 * DrWhat is away "gonnavoollaaa!!!!" Log: on Pager: off 02:46:37 *** DrWhat is now known as DrAway 02:47:32 98? 02:47:38 9+8? 02:47:49 effective speeds are around 700mbit both directions 02:47:51 5 02:47:56 according to a friend who has it 02:48:21 joepie91 the amazon bot is expected in 2 hours 15 minutes 02:48:33 Just a heads up 02:48:34 :) 02:48:43 Gunight Guys 02:48:52 amazon? 02:49:11 [9:05:10pm] Join: Mighty0wl (Mighty0wl@cryto-454686D9.compute-1.amazonaws.com) 02:49:11 Mighty0wl was last seen on #crytocc as "pjtyler", 8hrs ago 02:49:31 Joins every 8 hours 02:49:36 for 5 seconds 02:49:38 okay 02:49:38 then quits 02:49:47 under diffrent niks 02:50:25 Cya Guys, Men and male kind :) 03:02:41 someone asked for screenshot comparisons, so that's what I'm doing 03:10:29 fucking yes 03:10:38 first HN post; gets 17 points in first hour 03:13:38 ughh forgott toI detachh screen 03:15:50 lol 03:19:21

isp shitstorm? 03:19:22

why? 03:19:32 because all current ISPs in Canada are artificially throttling speeds 03:19:41 and are going to shit a wall when Google rolls out Fiber 03:20:00 internet in Canada is exploited in a notably scammy way 03:20:12 with only two major ISPs or something like that owning all the networks 03:20:17 and charging resellers through the nose 03:20:35 relatively low speeds, and retarded data caps 03:20:56 so yes, it's going to be amazing 03:20:59 but current ISPs are going to shit themselves 03:26:39 yeah 03:26:44 oh, okay 03:26:51 I knew they throttled lots 03:27:22 but eh, it's the basic economics argument against a cartel or monopoly economy 03:28:08 first thing you do after making the barriers to entry really high is to jack up Average Revenue Per User, which is most commonly done via artificial caps on "usage" whatever usage means per industry 03:30:36 *** agape (agape@cryto-18FB1FE5.bu.edu) has joined #crytocc 03:42:29 *** wh1t3r4b_ (antarctica@cryto-497FB66D.direcpc.com) has joined #crytocc 03:44:57 *** wh1t3r4bb1t has quit (Ping timeout) 03:53:19 *** maxQ has quit (Ping timeout) 04:00:00 *** lady-3jane has quit (Ping timeout) 04:03:59 * joepie91 throws shit at inkscape 04:03:59 ffs 04:15:00 *** lady-3jane (lady3jane@lady-3jane.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 04:21:44 okay, so 04:21:49 I just found out that I *apparently* own anonne.ws 05:05:02 *** fanat1ck (fanat1ck@cryto-454686D9.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 05:06:23 *** fanat1ck has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 05:30:58 *** agape has quit (User quit: Leaving) 05:40:21 djoyou do? 05:40:22 *you 05:50:00 *** wh1t3r4bb1t (antarctica@wh1t3r4bb1t.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 05:52:29 *** wh1t3r4b_ has quit (Ping timeout) 06:36:31 Would the second line here start header output? 06:36:35 protected function get_user_id() { 06:36:35 if ( $user_dir != null ) { 06:36:35 return $user_dir; 06:36:36 } else { 06:36:38 @session_start(); 06:36:40 return session_id(); 06:36:42 } 06:36:44 } 06:37:58 As far as I know it shouldn't BUT, inspector is getting back warnings that it is modifying headers after they are already output 06:39:08 what I don't get is that if I comment out everything accept the @session_start and session_id calls it isn't giving a warning... I thought session_start output headers? 06:53:24 ok, how is it that return session_id(); does not output headres but return $user_dir; does output headers??? I'm completely lost. 07:09:39 joepie91, lady-3jane, But JS for DE is all around you - for e17 it's elev8 (which allows you to write whole UI as json), gnome-3 picked JS as an official "the right way" extension lang 07:12:31 I think it's even picked as first-class for windows-8, no? 07:29:41 *** wh1t3r4b_ (antarctica@cryto-497FB66D.direcpc.com) has joined #crytocc 07:31:46 *** wh1t3r4bb1t has quit (Ping timeout) 09:21:18 *** wh1t3r4b_ has quit (User quit: Leaving...) 09:22:07 *** wh1t3r4bb1t (antarctica@wh1t3r4bb1t.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 10:04:06 *** ryan has quit (Ping timeout) 10:05:02 so that article has been on the front page of hacker news for like 9 hours now 10:05:13 time for bed, I think 11:14:44 *** maxQ (john@maxQ.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 11:23:44 *** maxQ has quit (Input/output error) 11:25:31 *** maxQ (john@maxQ.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 11:25:50 *** maxQ_ (john@cryto-F9D9164.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 11:32:19 *** maxQ has quit (User quit: leaving) 11:46:08 File share site will accept bitcoin... uploads are working now... after much trial and error. 11:46:17 mostly error 11:47:35 free anonymous users get random folders and premium users get their own folders. need to setup the file manager and download manager. 11:48:20 Whoever helps my will get lifetime free account. talk to you all tomorrow. sweet dreams sleepy heads. 12:05:12 *** Divinite_ (divinite@cryto-384C580A.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net) has joined #crytocc 12:16:06 That moment 12:16:14 When people cannot tell the difference 12:16:16 Between 13:05:02 *** THX1337b (THX1337b@cryto-454686D9.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 13:06:23 *** THX1337b has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 13:29:41 *** Divinite_ is now known as Sarah 13:29:46 woo 13:29:56 that name .... 13:30:32 *** Sarah is now known as Divinite_ 13:30:38 *** cr[a]tes (crates@8C14DE12.E8AD8326.B3321389.IP) has joined #crytocc 13:30:56 *** crates has quit (Ping timeout) 13:31:16 Haha 13:31:38 you know why :P 13:38:21 Of course 13:38:42 All the hot chicks are called Sarah ;) 13:39:12 *** evilworks has quit (Ping timeout) 13:39:49 *** evilworks (evilworks@F0F8FDC9.8A7625F.8C2900FD.IP) has joined #crytocc 13:44:44 *** Divinite is now known as Sarah 13:45:13 *** Sarah is now known as Divinite 14:25:26 THX1337b was last seen on #crytocc as "fanat1ck", 8hrs ago 14:25:38 14 fanat1ck was last seen on #crytocc as "Mighty0wl", 7hrs 59mins 58secs ago 14:39:57 Hmmm 14:40:12 Anyone got experance with make applications as a plugin for vbulletin 14:51:09 *** crytoweb797 (crytoweb79@980BEB04.18B2D4C2.1454599B.IP) has joined #crytocc 14:52:53 *** crytoweb797 has quit (User quit: Page closed) 14:53:17 *** shadow (shadow@980BEB04.18B2D4C2.1454599B.IP) has joined #crytocc 14:53:34 hello 14:55:46 *** shadow has quit (User quit: Page closed) 14:58:11 *** joepie91 has quit (Ping timeout) 14:58:51 *** joepie91 (joepie91@cryto-A6766B2C.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 15:02:48 *** Cryto875 (Cryto875@2F2093C.70573C14.C3675EA0.IP) has joined #crytocc 15:02:53 *** Cryto875 has quit (User quit: Cryto875) 15:48:56 Who would of knew 15:49:13 Vbulletin 4.2.0 is not compatible with PHP 5.4.* 15:49:20 and above 15:49:43 And they never made any attempt to change that 16:01:18 Ahh good 16:01:35 reverted to php 5.3.8 16:01:39 All works 16:01:48 Dont know why it doesnt work on php 5.4.* 16:01:51 But what ever 16:02:28 Why am i still away 16:02:31 * DrAway is back [13h 15m 55s] 16:02:31 *** DrAway is now known as DrWhat 16:02:41 Hello 16:26:07 *** crytocc529 (crytocc529@cryto-6D4DEECC.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #crytocc 16:28:24 *** crytocc529 has quit (User quit: Page closed) 16:30:16 DrWhat: lol 16:30:52 wtf 16:30:57 joepie91 lol @ iur lol 16:30:59 MK_FG: GNOME3 is ridiculously heavy and messy and very hard to actually customize beyond the base idea 16:31:03 so not really what I meant 16:31:16 as for "UI as JSON" - that's something significantly different from writing a UI like a webpage 16:31:20 JSON is just a serialization format 16:31:21 :p 16:31:30 twitchyliquid64: yes, I do 16:34:21 hmm, best ui would be combo of awesomewm and e17... e17 is pretty and has 7 foot thick menus, and awesomewm is entirely scripted via... lua I want to say 17:07:05 [17:06:12] ╒╣DrWhat╠╕: Todays i install vbulletin 17:07:06 [17:06:27] ╒╣DrWhat╠╕: So that that evomap can be control by vbulltin 17:07:06 [17:06:39] ╒╣DrWhat╠╕: But i have never write a plugin for vbulletin 17:07:06 [17:06:44] ╒╣DrWhat╠╕: So i have no fucking idea 17:09:18 *** Sarab (chatzilla@cryto-DFEC3329.snydernet.net) has joined #crytocc 17:10:14 anyone got an ideas 17:19:04 *** crates (crates@cryto-FB60AABF.countshockula.com) has joined #crytocc 17:19:39 *** cr[a]tes has quit (Ping timeout) 17:43:31 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-C9542A69.sb.sd.cox.net) has joined #crytocc 18:07:17 *** shadow (shadow@980BEB04.18B2D4C2.1454599B.IP) has joined #crytocc 18:22:27 DrWhat: vbulletin ist errible 18:22:30 why are you trying to run vbulletin 18:22:32 is terrible * 18:22:43 Im not tring 18:22:46 It is running 18:23:02 I want to Have evomap using Vbulletin sessions and user control 18:23:07 why? 18:23:14 So thayt only registered users to the forum can use it 18:23:22 why are you running vbulletin for your forum.. 18:23:30 I like it O_O 18:23:39 Do you of a better option? 18:23:43 Not phpbb please 18:23:49 uhm, yes, how about every other forum in existence? 18:23:51 :| 18:23:53 except IPB 18:23:54 that's crap too 18:24:08 phpbb is okay, SMF is great but pretty limited, Xenforo is great and very extensible 18:24:09 the old evomap used IPB as a base 18:24:20 Vanilla is a slightly different model but can still be considered forum software 18:24:43 hell, there's even mybb 18:24:57 Mybb is terrable 18:25:04 its horrible 18:25:08 Discusting 18:25:10 seems saner than vbulletin 18:25:14 anyway, try xenforo 18:25:57 LOL 18:26:13 they use WHMCS as a sale management 18:26:23 DrWhat: okay, so? 18:26:33 Nothing 18:26:36 Im just sayin 18:26:55 k 18:26:57 cant they use a proper E-commerce system 18:27:09 Maybe one designed for licence management 18:27:33 DrWhat: you mean like... WHMCS? 18:27:37 >.> 18:27:48 -.- 18:29:03 Apparently 18:29:12 vbulletin 5 connect is already null rleeased 18:29:38 I wonder if it just a beta that they have removed beta from 18:31:12 Anyway 18:31:21 Back on topic 18:31:36 Anyone got any usful resources for vbulletin plugin dev? 18:39:04 * lady-3jane doesn't touch that shit 18:43:52 good news! 18:44:01 next Chrome update will prevent third party installations of extensions 18:44:05 as in, installed from outside browser 18:44:18 so no more Ask Toolbar, no more Norton Web protection thing 18:44:31 and the update will also disable all existing extensions that were installed externally 18:44:38 so you have to manually enable them 18:46:33 Ahh yes :) So you cant import from firefox 18:49:10 wait 18:49:14 omg 18:49:14 awsome 18:49:23 have the mem leaking been better with FF btw? 18:49:29