02:23:54 *** loggy (loggy@5C4B2CE4.B8E60B3B.FD9B6484.IP) has joined #crytocc 02:23:54 Topic for #crytocc is: Cryto Coding Collective | THIS IS A PUBLICLY LOGGED CHANNEL. http://wire.cryto.net/logs | http://cryto.net/, http://forums.cryto.net/ | Rules: no Anonymous, no cracking, no drama | Online Flash IDE: http://wonderfl.net/about/ | Cryto Research: http://research.cryto.net/ | RIP Aaron Swartz 02:23:54 Users on #crytocc: loggy pzuraq `\ ebola AnonyOps lady-3jane null_ AnonForecast DrWhat cr[a]tes razentka foolex Kamonra evilworks IR601 Ishaq &MK_FG smithsonian_ joepie91_ wh1t3r4bb1t truetravesty jamesbt aHlTat twitchyliquid64 ~joepie91 shikat Chasenet 02:27:33 joepie91: Divvy has agreed to reduce the marketingspeak and put in a disclaimer outlining the security risks and the reality of the software 02:27:54 twitchyliquid64: and does she actually realize what said security risks are? 02:28:08 well, I wrote them 02:28:10 so yes 02:28:40 * twitchyliquid64 pokes joepie91 02:29:49 twitchyliquid64: the kick reason was very clear - if the issue outlined in said reason is resolved, I don't see why she can't join here again 02:29:52 *if* the issue is resolved 02:30:58 I think its pretty well resolved 02:31:13 https://mirror.explodie.org/log-crytocc-CrytoIRC-2013-03-01-snip.txt 02:31:41 lady-3jane: thanks. 02:31:54 joepie91:) np 02:32:09 sorry it took me a sec, I forgot fucking pound symbols are special in urls 02:32:12 * lady-3jane facepalms 02:32:22 lol 02:32:52 twitchyliquid64: does she actually have a different attitude towards privacy/security or others, or is she just agreeing with you? 02:32:57 of others * 02:33:01 pretty significant difference 02:33:34 she does care about the security of her users 02:33:41 she is making this primarily for herslef and friends 02:34:11 she was just getting pissed at how pedantic you were being (pedantic the right word??? not good at english) 02:34:13 security *and* privacy? 02:34:21 same thin IMHO 02:34:25 it's nopt 02:34:26 you have privacy if your secure 02:34:26 not * 02:34:36 nah mang 02:34:38 yes, but not the other way around 02:34:46 if you're 'secure' you don't necessarily have privacy 02:34:51 depending on your interpretation of 'secure' 02:34:56 if your secure from your provider and the world, you have privacy 02:35:01 I can encrypt email with forward-secure encryption, but someone can still know who I'm talking to 02:35:09 so, security *and* privacy? 02:35:18 I think so 02:35:21 still not sure on the difference 02:35:41 twitchyliquid64: the difference is that if you cannot guarantee no logging, that means no privacy 02:35:43 even if it's secure otherwise 02:35:56 right 02:36:05 so the only things that can GARRANTEE privacy 02:36:09 are client side logging 02:36:14 *encryption 02:36:17 basically. 02:36:19 **client side encryption 02:36:23 actually 02:36:32 secure client side encryption* 02:36:50 clientside encryption in JS on a pastebin is not guaranteed to be private 02:36:57 privacy is people not knowing who is communicating or what they're communicating, security is others not being able to modify that communication (I think) 02:36:58 as theoretically the code that is served could be modified 02:37:14 lady-3jane: security actually goes quite a bit beyond that 02:37:15 is that decent? 02:37:19 oh? 02:37:23 but there's two general interpretations of 'security' 02:37:26 one is 'inability to break in' 02:37:38 the other is 'integrity and privacy' 02:37:41 so if end-to-end pubpriv encryption is used, you can get privacy *and* security? 02:37:51 twitchyliquid64: correct 02:38:07 joepie91: Im pretty sure she is using end-to-end 02:38:09 ill check that 02:38:11 twitchyliquid64: she can't 02:38:27 HTTPS? 02:38:29 duh 02:38:30 as far as I can determine, it works like a proxy in the sense that it lets you connect to external services 02:38:47 that means that it will only be end-to-end encrypted if the endpoint external service supports that 02:38:49 and nowhere near all services do 02:39:06 nor is it a feature of a particular VPN 02:39:10 either the endpoint offers it, or it doesn't 02:39:18 what you use to proxy through doesn't really matter 02:40:41 * lady-3jane puts router just outside endpoint that mirrors traffic into database 02:41:38 lol 02:41:49 I skipped a step, but it's illustrative 02:42:14 any encryption between endpoints will easily fix that 02:42:21 ie: my p2p library :D 02:42:29 sure, but you don't control the final endpoints 02:42:44 you can :D 02:43:19 I think 02:43:23 its a new Idea I have 02:43:35 to challenge the integrity of two elements of remote code 02:44:17 if you're talking about some sort of p2p access of the final endpoint (to make it impossible to detect where the request will come from) that's sort of tor, skin deep 02:44:25 no 02:44:39 im talking about being sure that the code your talking to on the other end is your own 02:44:49 ie: validating the code executing on the remote CPU 02:46:18 The idea is that you make certain elements of the communication reference a byte at an offset in the programs executable 02:46:23 or even in memory 02:49:49 I should think that would only work if you controlled or had... at the least access to that, which normally you don't 02:50:08 twitchyliquid64: clearly she has not changed her attitude 02:50:24 lady-3jane: mind copypasting the log of that for me? 02:50:29 I can't copypaste more than one screen at a time 02:50:32 (WINE limitation) 02:51:11 twitchyliquid64: after pointing out the problem, she put me on ignore *again* 02:51:15 she just does not want to hear about it 02:54:21 AHH 02:54:25 haha caps 02:54:32 I'm so fucking high on caffeine right now. omgl 02:54:38 lelz 02:54:44 I wish I liked the taste of coffee 02:54:52 I wanna shoot up with caffee 02:54:58 *caffiene 02:55:04 are you still talking about my wife? 02:56:00 waht 02:57:31 https://mirror.explodie.org/log-cryto-2013-03-01.txt 02:58:22 thanks, lady-3jane 02:59:38 lol 02:59:48 lady-3jane: I find it alarming how Divinite feels that "well, people should think about things better" is a reasonable justification for making false claims 03:00:06 this is exactly the same attitude as a lot of scammers use 03:00:16 "well, if they don't want to be scammed, they should be more careful... I'm not doing anything wrontg" 03:00:16 joepie91: shes correct all that 03:00:25 wrong * 03:00:27 *corrected 03:00:44 twitchyliquid64: I don't care about what she's doing, I care about the attitude she's displaying 03:00:49 she's in #cryto right now being not-corrected 03:00:51 if you're not in #cryto you're probably missing this 03:01:01 right. 03:01:01 but she's basically still arguing the scammer justification 03:02:21 *** weechat_user (weechat@124B97A1.CA3FD40E.EC415946.IP) has joined #crytocc 03:02:28 I find it alarming how you are using the scammer defense, Divinite 03:02:31 "well, if they don't want to be scammed, they should be more careful... I'm not doing anything wrontg" 03:02:37 whoops 03:02:39 wrong channel derp 03:03:16 I'm so used to typing crytocc 03:03:20 that I fail to type cryto 03:03:22 lol 03:05:27 well, it's clear 03:05:34 Divinite does not give a fuck about anyone elses security or privacy 03:05:43 apparently doesn't care that she's using the scammer defense either 03:05:57 and ignores me without even attempting to discuss anything, no matter how calm the discussion 03:06:00 it's coming from you, it'll automatically be discarded 03:06:03 welcome to people 03:06:04 just because it confronts her with shit she doesn't want to think about it 03:06:22 er, doesn't want to think about * 03:06:54 * joepie91 throws redonate feature application into trashbin 03:07:07 I have absolutely no interest in supporting a project based on such carelessness 03:07:12 so, fuck that 03:07:18 and yes, I'm pissed 03:07:31 selfish fucking asshole 03:09:47 *** weechat_user has quit (User quit: WeeChat 0.2.6) 03:13:27 dood 03:13:41 that was fuxed urp 03:13:50 oh well 03:14:07 wh1t3r4bb1t: yes, yes it was 03:14:15 CAFFEINE!!!! BAHHHH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA! 03:14:56 stoned and caffeine? that sounds like a terrible idea 03:15:17 * wh1t3r4bb1t does two back flips, lands on head. walks in the snow with bare feet. 03:15:48 * wh1t3r4bb1t is so high he dgaf about nothin but caffeine. 03:16:32 * wh1t3r4bb1t runs around the room slapping asses 03:17:05 Have you seen my marbles? 03:18:47 you any good at marbles? 03:20:34 I'm a pro 03:20:46 But I get steely 03:37:33 my connection is poopstain tonight 03:47:17 hmm, apparently if I drink for a long time I have to increase the alcohol amount to keep being drunk? 03:47:20 does that make sense? 03:47:40 rather than a maintenance amount, you have to increase over time? 03:47:48 * lady-3jane squints 03:50:25 right, time to remove all traces of mysql_* from CPHP 03:54:55 lady-3jane: what part of shopping is emotionally draining? 03:55:06 the shopping part 03:55:51 but why? 03:56:07 im trying to understand what componenet of the shopping experience is so draining 03:56:10 Well I already said I'm not sure 03:56:15 it's not a component 03:56:18 is it interacting with people? 03:56:19 the entire thing is draining 03:56:24 the walking? 03:56:29 carrying shit? 03:56:36 no, it's the shopping part 03:56:41 having to see all the marketing shit? 03:56:56 having to filter all the marketing shit probably 03:57:40 I don't like having to walk around critically evaluating every thing I can see 03:57:44 I don't like spending money 04:00:39 I'm also completely disinterested in it, and take every effort to talk about something /else/ while I'm doing it 04:01:01 I really just don't fucking like it. I hate consumerism in my core. 04:01:12 I'm a motherfucking citizen, not a consumer. 04:01:58 and so I have to walk around and look at things I don't want and don't need trying to keep down my hatred for everything purchasing, everything advertising 04:02:16 I think it's not hard to see why it's draining 04:04:29 oh! fuck! 04:04:38 I found 20$ today and I know what I'mma do with it 04:04:40 buy bleach! 04:04:56 I am fucking coloring my hair orange sunday. that's what the fuck I'm doing. 04:05:09 bitchin. 04:06:22 *** null_ has quit (Client exited) 04:07:14 *** null_ (null@1A6F0E89.F679247E.F436A453.IP) has joined #crytocc 04:24:39 fluttershy? is that you? 04:26:37 *** xnite (xnite@cryto-E82E1F80.dynamic.swissvpn.net) has joined #crytocc 04:27:00 wh1t3r4bb1t:) who? 04:28:12 Dash? is that you? 04:31:52 NP: [Maroon 5 - Moves Like Jagger [feat. Christina Aguilera]] [Hands All Over [2011 Reissue]] [1008kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane 04:35:22 root@vps10:/var/sites/redonate/public_html# php -f cron.daily.php 04:35:22 PHP Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'NotFoundException' with message 'No results for specified query.' in /var/sites/cphp/class.databaserecord.php:634 04:35:22 Stack trace: 04:35:22 #0 /var/sites/redonate/public_html/cron.daily.php(51): CPHPDatabaseRecordClass::CreateFromQuery('SELECT * FROM c...') 04:35:22 #1 {main} 04:35:22 thrown in /var/sites/cphp/class.databaserecord.php on line 634 04:35:24 goddamnit 04:35:27 I fail 04:36:53 derp'd 04:41:11 *** MK_FG has quit (Ping timeout) 04:44:29 There isn't any PDO::PARAM for decimals / floats, you'll have to use PDO::PARAM_STR. 04:44:31 jesus christ php 04:44:37 even if you do something right, you end up doing it wrong 04:49:48 *** pzuraq has quit (Input/output error) 05:59:56 *** loggy (loggy@5C4B2CE4.B8E60B3B.FD9B6484.IP) has joined #crytocc 05:59:56 Topic for #crytocc is: Cryto Coding Collective | THIS IS A PUBLICLY LOGGED CHANNEL. http://wire.cryto.net/logs | http://cryto.net/, http://forums.cryto.net/ | Rules: no Anonymous, no cracking, no drama | Online Flash IDE: http://wonderfl.net/about/ | Cryto Research: http://research.cryto.net/ | RIP Aaron Swartz 05:59:56 Users on #crytocc: loggy MK_FG xnite null_ `\ ebola lady-3jane AnonForecast DrWhat cr[a]tes razentka foolex Kamonra evilworks IR601 Ishaq smithsonian_ joepie91_ wh1t3r4bb1t truetravesty jamesbt aHlTat twitchyliquid64 ~joepie91 shikat Chasenet 06:01:44 *** Divinite (root@CE4052C8.CF1E43B9.E13471D5.IP) has joined #crytocc 06:01:50 Thank you 06:01:56 I apologise about my friends 06:03:01 your friends, that happen to connect from the exact same IP with the exact same realname and ident 06:03:14 Also, if someone wants to join a channel 06:03:19 where joepie91 is not raging at people 06:03:29 join #freetalk 06:06:15 Hehe, yeah, it's hard to find a channel where joepie91 is not raging at people these days 06:06:53 Also, shouldn't people who use gost cipher or hash be insta-banned on the internet? 06:07:55 LOL 06:08:19 I typed the wrong one, was thinking about one 06:08:24 And yeah 06:13:55 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-FD4C66C2.ucsc.edu) has joined #crytocc 06:31:37 I think it's funny because I put snip in the filename 06:31:50 and I'm all like "no shit, sherlock" 06:32:02 I don't have daily log files, so no fucking shit I snipped it 06:34:12 hey Divinite ^ 06:44:46 I'm also rather sure I didn't miss anything. You asked for confirmed email down, that's what I produced. 06:46:37 *** Sabit (NOL@cryto-A5E30CF8.hawaii.res.rr.com) has joined #crytocc 06:52:47 *** pzuraq has quit (Input/output error) 06:53:16 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-FD4C66C2.ucsc.edu) has joined #crytocc 07:03:24 *** evilworks has quit (Ping timeout) 07:03:39 *** evilworks (evilworks@cryto-A40B19AE.dynamic.amis.hr) has joined #crytocc 07:26:08 *** Sabit has quit (User quit: cows go moooooooooo) 07:29:52 *** pzuraq has quit (Input/output error) 07:31:06 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-FD4C66C2.ucsc.edu) has joined #crytocc 07:34:22 *** pzuraq has quit (Ping timeout) 11:57:58 *** loggy (loggy@5C4B2CE4.B8E60B3B.FD9B6484.IP) has joined #crytocc 11:57:58 Topic for #crytocc is: Cryto Coding Collective | THIS IS A PUBLICLY LOGGED CHANNEL. http://wire.cryto.net/logs | http://cryto.net/, http://forums.cryto.net/ | Rules: no Anonymous, no cracking, no drama | Online Flash IDE: http://wonderfl.net/about/ | Cryto Research: http://research.cryto.net/ | RIP Aaron Swartz 11:57:58 Users on #crytocc: loggy BLTGeno sila-jain dlite zest truetravesty evilworks Divinite MK_FG xnite null_ `\ ebola lady-3jane AnonForecast DrWhat cr[a]tes razentka foolex Kamonra IR601 Ishaq smithsonian_ joepie91_ wh1t3r4bb1t jamesbt aHlTat twitchyliquid64 ~joepie91 shikat Chasenet 11:58:01 should be over now 11:58:13 right 11:58:17 * DrWhat pugs a log on loggy 11:58:21 Hes staying now 11:58:47 lol 11:59:00 he laughed, im off the hok 11:59:02 :D 12:00:21 anyone here been to a foam party? 12:00:22 DrWhat: you seem to be in a good mood 12:00:29 twitchyliquid64: those things still happen? 12:00:35 drwhat 12:00:46 WTF 12:00:56 O_O 12:01:17 twitchyliquid64 ... Sounds gay 12:01:31 Is it acohol foam? 12:01:53 DrWhat: joepie91: someone just invited me to one 12:02:00 I want to know about them 12:02:09 and foam, as in dance party + foam 12:02:13 Borning 12:02:20 Like big pillow fights :/ 12:02:25 but with wussy foam 12:02:32 http://feminspire.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Foam-Party-Shower.jpeg 12:02:41 and it ruins your clothes 12:02:48 rock on 12:02:58 The guy said the foam these days doesnt stain 12:03:15 you can never beleive them 12:03:42 who here has been to one? 12:04:15 can you 1) rate it out of 10, where 1 is worst party and 10 is best party youve ever been to. 2) say why 12:04:18 Nope 12:04:21 Dont like the idea 12:04:25 tbh I thought foam would be kinda kinky 12:04:33 I tend to go the Bra pparties :D 12:04:41 whats that? 12:04:58 seems about tits ^^ 12:05:04 girls in underware 12:05:07 :P 12:05:10 ) 12:05:26 swinging 12:05:47 DrWhat: what do the guys wear? 12:05:50 don't whats better wet girls or in underwear girls ... 12:05:55 * know 12:06:01 fongs :) 12:06:12 wet girls tend to strip to underwhere? 12:06:15 *wear 12:06:25 ware* 12:06:26 :P 12:06:38 men waer golden fongs 12:06:48 girls come in what ever they choose 12:08:19 *** dlite has quit (Client exited) 12:08:38 suck 12:10:56 Whos tried out youtube HTML5? 12:11:35 It only really works 100% in chrome 12:11:45 firefox is missing h.65 12:12:03 DrWhat: I use it 12:12:08 it's quite pleasant 12:12:22 in chrome i guess 12:12:26 minor bug: ad-supported videos use flash player on video page, but html5 player on all other pages (like channel page) 12:12:26 yes 12:12:57 It works full html5 in firefox 12:13:05 no it doesn't 12:13:12 it will use flash player on videos with ads 12:13:13 But somtimes you cant watch a video becuase of some error 12:13:40 nope 12:13:48 if the videa has adds i get this error 12:13:48 http://prntscr.com/uptt0 12:14:26 Im missing 12:14:27 h.264 12:14:30 DrWhat: no, that error means it uses a codec that you don't have 12:14:30 yes 12:14:35 has nothing to do with ads 12:14:51 i have the thing codec 12:14:59 the full free codec thing 12:15:02 can remeber whats it called 12:15:14 K-Lite Codec Pack 12:15:21 i got that 12:17:07 DrWhat : doesn't matter 12:17:15 afaik it's about codecs included in the browser 12:17:24 well 12:17:25 h.264 12:17:28 is a k-lite codec 12:17:51 http://www.codecpackguide.com/klmcodec.htm 12:18:11 so idont see how it can say i dont have it 12:22:05 wtf 12:22:09 when I try to pay an invoice 12:22:12 paypal says I'm limietd 12:22:15 limited * 12:22:18 I log into my account 12:22:21 status: verified, no open issues 12:22:22 ??? 12:24:30 ? 12:24:41 My paypal is limited :( 12:24:44 idk 12:34:13 * DrWhat throws apples at joepie91 12:42:28 *** monod (none@cryto-5F5B8DDE.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #crytocc 13:03:53 *** monod has quit (User quit: L'Amore un sospiro dal profondo dei mari dei sentimenti, una lacrima dal cielo del pensiero...un soave sor dal campo dell'anima. (Gibran)) 14:19:36 *** zest has quit (Ping timeout) 14:32:47 *** BLTGeno has quit (Ping timeout) 14:42:30 Just seen on twitter this most awesome thing - https://wellsoffice.wellsfargo.com/ceoportal/signon/loader.jsp 14:42:57 Must-add to all the auth-related pages 15:05:51 no sleep till brooklyn 15:19:36 *** BLTGeno (BLTGeno4@cryto-590FDA9.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #crytocc 15:24:05 *** BLTGeno has quit (Ping timeout) 15:38:09 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-FD4C66C2.ucsc.edu) has joined #crytocc 15:40:12 Divinite:) you're fucking retarded, seriously. The bit you think I missed was over an hour after you asked me for the log. 15:40:34 jesus fucking christ 15:41:13 *** pzuraq has quit (Ping timeout) 15:42:22 I don't much care about the discussion between you and joe, but I will nail your ass to a cross if you start accusing me of lacking integrity or transparency. 15:42:41 Let that be known. 15:53:37 You know how the facebook signup form has text in it before you type and the text stays there while it has focus but the cursor is at the 0 position and then when you keypress the text goes away....? How is that done in jquery? 15:54:52 I know how to put text in there but i don't know how to st the cursor at the 0 position and leave the text there while not allowing the cursor to scroll through the existing letters in the field 16:03:38 Current bandwidth: [Downstream: 23.34MB/s] × [Upstream: 506.14KB/s] 16:03:54 Im downloading 2086 steam games 16:04:03 about 20 tb :/ 16:04:07 :D 16:04:15 Oh yeah 16:04:19 Plus all the DLC 16:04:24 there an exploit out 16:04:31 all steam games free 16:04:32 Soo 16:04:41 Im using my space 16:04:45 all of it 16:04:47 then 16:04:53 Ill upload al lthe game to a server 16:04:58 and yeah 16:05:03 *** ttmbRAT (ttmbRAT@cryto-454686D9.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 16:05:13 Oh ehllo 16:05:15 ttmbRAT was last seen on #crytocc as "tmbucky", 8hrs 8secs ago 16:05:25 I thought you stoped visiting 16:05:28 I missed you 16:05:36 NOW FUCK OFF 16:06:05 joepie91 shune him 16:06:24 *** ttmbRAT has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 16:06:33 You know how the facebook signup form has text in it before you type and the text stays there while it has focus but the cursor is at the 0 position and then when you keypress the text goes away....? How is that done in jquery? 16:06:33 I know how to put text in there but i don't know how to st the cursor at the 0 position and leave the text there while not allowing the cursor to scroll through the existing letters in the field 16:06:38 it's not using jquery, mostly 16:06:41 it's the placeholder attribute 16:06:52 16:07:35 Hmm 16:07:38 ]I try that 16:07:40 thanks 16:08:07 not all browsers support it but most do 16:08:17 and you could probably hack something in there using jquery 16:08:19 as fallback 16:08:23 that reads out placeholder arg 16:08:55 joepie91 16:08:57 shikat: ) 16:09:01 Fuck 16:09:03 shikat: ) 16:09:05 WTF 16:09:11 hi, :) 16:09:17 thats what i was tring to say 16:10:27 dude that is so simple it's rediculous 16:10:36 DrWhat: hai 16:10:41 wh1t3r4bb1t: it's fairly new 16:10:49 make sure you're using html5 doctype 16:10:54 because I think that's where it was introduced 16:10:57 16:10:58 Well like html5 new 16:11:04 but thats not THAT new 16:11:12 what happned to html4? 16:11:21 no such thing 16:11:28 what do you mine 16:11:42 you can version somthing ontop of somthing that does not exsit 16:11:45 They went from html straight to html5 16:12:00 j/k 16:12:08 there must of been a html 4? 16:12:13 or html3? 16:12:19 ... 16:12:21 HTML4.01? 16:12:26 that's what was used before HTML5? 16:12:27 They dont call IPv6 just for the fun of it 16:12:30 not sure where the question here is 16:12:43 yes but I killed them all so that html5 could take over 16:12:54 wh1t3r4bb1t: meh. HTML5 doesn't have framesets. 16:13:04 me and html5 are getting married 16:13:09 html5 sucks 16:13:28 HTML5 is great, but it does not have framesets 16:13:28 and that irks me 16:14:28 framesets are so html2 16:14:37 or was it 2.5 16:14:46 anyways that's oldschool 16:15:41 frame sets allow a page to not become mutated on diffrent resolusions 16:16:24 DrWhat: eh, that's not what to use framesets for 16:16:44 what to use framesets for, is for things like anonnews external news 16:16:47 where you have a top bar from anonnews 16:16:53 and the rest of the screen is filled with the actual page 16:17:21 yep 16:17:48 it's for bringing multi domian content into one window without curl or ajax 16:17:51 and before someone tries to say iframes are a replacements 16:17:54 replacement * 16:17:55 ollllld school 16:17:56 no, they're not 16:18:05 not until you can set a proper fill-the-rest-of-the-screen size 16:18:06 before they even know soap was gonna happen 16:18:06 without JS 16:20:08 Hai there. 16:20:54 oooooh no he fohgit dah pahwoo 16:21:24 say that is your best asian voice and it's hilarious 16:21:31 js 16:21:44 sorry for the distraction... back to work 16:22:16 hai shikat 16:25:16 fuck, fucked up my foot on the way back from the store 16:25:23 * lady-3jane removes shoe in case it swells 16:29:16 what happened? 16:30:23 *** Cryto719 (Cryto719@cryto-620BDBCE.netrun.cytanet.com.cy) has joined #crytocc 16:30:46 someone help 16:31:57 *** Cryto719 has quit (User quit: Page closed) 16:35:01 what's with all the cries for help lately 16:36:49 joepie91:) some assclown wouldn't take their turn right so I went between them and the curb... hit the split between the concrete and blacktop wrong and almost flipped my bike. kicked the ground with my inside (right) foot to stabilize, which was hard enough to temporarily paralyze my foot from shock :/ 16:38:24 :( 16:38:29 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-FD4C66C2.ucsc.edu) has joined #crytocc 16:41:39 *** pzuraq has quit (Ping timeout) 16:42:28 It'll be fine haha, I just had to stop for a minute and let my leg unparalyze itself 16:42:50 I had forgotten what shock pain felt like 16:42:51 hehe 16:42:58 *** spoonzy (cocks@cryto-AEDA4185.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #crytocc 16:43:58 * joepie91 needs sleep 16:44:06 I guess I'll flick the switch on redonate tomorro 16:44:09 tomorrow * 16:44:39 kay kay 16:44:46 yeah should be fresh and up for launch 16:45:06 see you in 8h? 16:45:09 anyone got a riseup mail account? 16:46:12 lady-3jane: something like that 16:46:13 goodnight 16:46:22 night :) 16:46:25 bon nuit! 16:46:37 wait is night female 16:46:38 shit 16:46:39 lol 16:46:45 might be bonne nuit 16:47:06 indeed 16:47:08 bonne nuit! 17:01:22 *** spoonzy has quit (User quit: .) 17:47:02 *** mama (chatzilla@cryto-A266B332.microshaft.org) has joined #crytocc 17:49:30 *** AnonyOps (anony_ops@cryto-5167D786.woh.res.rr.com) has joined #crytocc 17:56:06 It's sorta terrifying how much less ram I use when I'm using e17 instead of unity 17:56:09 holy crap 18:07:40 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-FD4C66C2.ucsc.edu) has joined #crytocc 18:08:45 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 18:11:44 Doesn't your browser eat like 80% of it anyway? 18:16:24 MK_FG:) that was the assumption, but I've got crazy tabs right now and am using much less ram... the only thing different is I'm using e17 and not unity 18:16:41 so perhaps that's a large component of the difference 18:20:10 hah, launched chrome, ram usage went up by 600m, and I'm still under 2.3g ram 18:20:12 wtf mang 18:20:19 so much lighter 18:21:43 conky seem to help me a lot to keep track of such things 18:22:13 dunno what that is 18:22:18 * lady-3jane uses htop 18:22:57 ahh some sort of system monitor 18:23:09 I don't run top or something like that on a laptop just to check on what eats how much, but always seem to know the hogs and overall res usage just from occasional glance to it 18:23:48 does it run in a window? 18:23:50 http://fraggod.net/tmp/shot-2013-03-03_00-23-20.jpg <-- that thing on the left 18:23:55 or is it one of the ones that plasters itself on the background 18:24:15 yeah it plasters to background 18:24:19 It can do both 18:24:21 I can't see those e.e 18:24:31 * lady-3jane never sees the background 18:24:55 I only see it on desktop with terminals and misc apps (1) 18:25:25 And seem to have some habit of trackng apps through it w/o thinking about it ;) 18:25:34 *** pzuraq has quit (Input/output error) 18:25:39 hehe alright 18:25:43 So I'd say get something like this, maybe on some overlay window 18:26:04 I use htop and order by memory usage, though usually cpu usage because that's what I was used to from windows 18:27:44 hmm 18:27:57 I'm trying to make a widget box and I want the html for it to be at the bottom 18:28:05 so it's last on small screens 18:28:10 but I can't get it to go UP 18:28:18 * lady-3jane grumbles 18:34:07 hmm 18:34:18 if I ruin the centering of the main content block, it works 18:34:19 :| 18:38:45 DAMN 18:38:48 i just reliesed 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