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05:04:33 *** Ari (Ari@cryto-1BB990EB.acanac.net) has joined #crytocc 05:04:44 best music right now 05:04:45 NP: [Cherry Poppin' Daddies - When I Change Your Mind] [Zoot Suit Riot] [951kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane 05:14:26 lady-3jane: pretty uneventful 05:14:27 hai, Ari 05:14:34 Hallo! 05:14:41 I'm writing docstrings in python 05:14:43 watcha up to? 05:14:48 there's a bug in your button :P 05:14:51 or well 05:14:52 NOO 05:14:55 in the way it works 05:15:00 What's wrong with it? o_o 05:15:02 well 05:15:06 when you press it, the top margin changes 05:15:11 yeah 05:15:15 to align the text 05:15:16 if that means the button is no longer under your mouse 05:15:19 the submission will not go through 05:15:22 of the form 05:15:23 oh 05:15:25 derp 05:15:26 at least in chrome 05:15:37 really? 05:15:39 so the top 5 pixels in the button cause the effect, but not the action 05:15:40 yes 05:15:41 :P 05:15:41 works for me in chrome 05:15:42 o_o 05:15:43 I hacked around it 05:15:44 oh 05:15:45 okay 05:15:48 Sorry :s 05:15:51 by attaching mousedown event 05:15:53 that submits parent form 05:16:04 but yeah, just thought I'd let you know :P 05:16:15 anyway, redonate is now officially launched! 05:16:25 http://joepie91.wordpress.com/2013/03/03/announcing-redonate-recurring-contributions-done-right/ 05:16:26 @ Ari 05:16:27 :D 05:16:32 whooo! 05:16:37 * Ari highfives joepie91 05:16:38 :D 05:17:22 * joepie91 highfives 05:17:30 also http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5313120 05:17:34 and http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19kkf1/announcing_redonate_recurring_contributions_done/ 05:17:45 and http://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/8466/announcing-redonate-recurring-contributions-done-right 05:17:51 damn 05:17:52 nice 05:18:05 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148683.0 05:18:59 sweeet 05:21:40 also, ugh: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148697.0 05:27:10 *** joepie91 has quit (Client exited) 05:27:10 *** joepie91_ has quit (Broken pipe) 05:27:10 *** `\ has quit (Connection reset by peer) 05:28:00 *** joepie91 (joepie91@cryto-A6766B2C.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 05:28:07 *** joepie91_ (joepie91@cryto-A6766B2C.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 05:30:27 what does that even do, joepie91 05:30:53 Ari: it hijacks ads 05:30:57 ah 05:30:58 for thier profit? 05:31:01 yes 05:32:35 that's annoyingly stupid 05:49:07 yrs 05:49:09 yes * 05:49:38 Oh wow, PyCharm is a nice IDE 05:55:54 *** crates has quit (Ping timeout) 05:57:26 *** crates (crates@cryto-8D90C29E.reverse.softlayer.com) has joined #crytocc 06:08:12 ew 06:12:12 grrrrreat 06:12:13 http://pastie.org/private/rou5edtapx6gxuct7ui7eq 06:12:15 cc Ari 06:12:23 mmph? 06:12:27 see pastie 06:12:33 I hate writing setup scripts so fucking much 06:12:40 ohgod 06:12:41 that sucks 06:13:04 and it's not like the documentation is helpful and gives a few sample scripts for common scenarios... 06:13:08 nah 06:13:27 :< 06:13:48 packages = ['pysfx'] 06:13:49 package_dir = {'pysfx': ['pysfx']} 06:13:49 package_data = {'pysfx': ['unpack.template']} 06:13:52 it's unclear to me what is wrong here 06:16:26 It's unclear to me what is even happening here 06:16:50 same 06:27:44 *** crates has quit (Ping timeout) 06:28:53 *** crates (crates@cryto-FB60AABF.countshockula.com) has joined #crytocc 06:30:12 root@aarnist:~/sfxtest# tar -czf - * | pysfx -as "python test.py" - sfx.py 06:30:13 root@aarnist:~/sfxtest# python sfx.py 06:30:13 PySFX 1.0 by Sven Slootweg http://cryto.net/pysfx 06:30:13 PySFX may be reused, modified, and redistributed freely without restriction under the WTFPL. 06:30:13 Processed 2440 bytes, of which 1817 bytes were written to /var/tmp/pysfx-lRbGVSSsdRplfv5A.tar.gz. 06:30:13 Unpacking archive... 06:30:13 hello world 06:30:13 well 06:30:15 I guess it works 06:30:33 time to take a walk 06:32:52 whoo 06:32:52 have fun 06:42:34 http://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/8491/pysfx-a-tool-to-create-self-extracting-python-scripts 06:43:33 how was your walk 06:45:10 not gone yet 06:45:11 going now 06:45:11 :P 06:46:26 kay 07:03:05 *** evilworks has quit (Ping timeout) 07:03:25 *** evilworks (evilworks@cryto-F7AD716A.dynamic.amis.hr) has joined #crytocc 07:08:33 *** anon_curi (anon_curi@cryto-7572EF05.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 07:08:53 Hello 07:09:17 Anyone there? 07:11:59 to be or not to be 07:15:10 anonymous where are you? 07:16:47 any anonymous anywhere? 07:17:16 I want to talk to you 07:20:24 i have a hard time believing that out of the millions of hits anon gets on the internet that there are no irc chats happening.. 07:23:45 * joepie91 sighs 07:23:52 anon_curi: it would PROBABLY be a good idea 07:23:56 to read the fucking topic in this channel 07:24:04 because then you would know that this is not an anonymous channel 07:24:12 oh 07:24:20 sorry 07:24:29 what is cryocc? 07:24:35 http://cryto.net/ 07:25:55 I c 07:26:06 so you code 07:26:19 but in lamens terms what are you coding? 07:36:27 anything. 07:36:44 As long as it's open to the world 07:38:30 hey joepie91, I just finished writing a Python library. What do I do now? How do I like.. release it? .-. Where do I post it? 07:38:49 Ari: well, have you packaged it up for the pypi repo yet? 07:38:56 Nope! 07:38:56 like, setup.py script and all that 07:39:02 alright, prepare for a world of pain 07:39:12 * lady-3jane dances 07:39:13 http://docs.python.org/2/distutils/setupscript.html 07:39:13 It's a VERY specialized library 07:39:14 NP: [Cherry Poppin' Daddies - When I Change Your Mind] [Zoot Suit Riot] [951kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane 07:39:52 should I bother? 07:39:57 or should I just distribute a pyc? 07:40:11 Ari: why would you distribute a pyc 07:40:15 that makes no sense ._. 07:40:17 wait 07:40:23 pyc is a compiled python file right 07:40:25 yes 07:40:28 so 07:40:35 if I give people a .pyc of my library 07:40:39 then it will break 07:40:42 on anything that is not your python ver 07:40:43 on your arch 07:40:43 why o_o 07:40:45 in your env 07:40:45 oh 07:40:46 oh 07:40:48 makes sense. 07:40:48 lo. 07:40:50 lol * 07:40:55 k, can't I just distribute the .py then? 07:40:56 no really, try to learn to write a setup script 07:41:01 thing is 07:41:05 distributing it as a py 07:41:10 means you can't just define it as a dependency 07:41:14 can't just give an install comman 07:41:16 command * 07:41:22 basically, for an end user it'd become really messy to use 07:41:26 kay 07:41:40 also, is there a good way to make a standalone EXE out of a python script? 07:41:47 Not a folder, ONE exe. 07:41:55 apart from why you would want to do that, py2exe 07:42:15 kay 07:42:37 but really 07:42:41 why *would* you want to do that 07:43:29 Behead those who use python in perls stead 07:44:06 joepie91, GUI apps 07:44:29 also behead those who want to stick interpreted languages in a single .exe 07:44:35 :< 07:45:11 Rule of thumb: if you want binaries, use actual programming languages 07:45:22 I'm so highhhhhhh above meeeeeeee 07:47:06 Ari: that's really not a reason 07:47:20 just make an installer that makes sure python runtime is installed 07:47:23 joepie91, it's awkward to get end-users to download and run python 07:47:24 oh yeah I guess 07:47:25 and installs python scripts 07:49:29 hey joepie91, is this good? http://paste.sirenfal.com/view/SbrzlNNAd 07:50:27 NP: [Dengue Fever - Cement Slippers] [Cannibal Courtship] [1010kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane 07:54:31 I suppose so 07:54:32 I'd say 07:54:35 python setup.py sdist 07:54:37 and see what happens 07:55:34 sdist? 07:56:26 it says it worked .-. 08:02:40 i gotta sleep. night all 08:02:44 *** Ari has quit (User quit: KBAI <3) 08:05:03 *** ttmbRAT (ttmbRAT@cryto-454686D9.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 08:06:25 *** ttmbRAT has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 08:21:43 night joepie91 n.n 08:22:59 night lady-3jane 08:59:25 *** Sabit has quit (Connection reset by peer) 09:19:01 *** faust (faust@cryto-D3BD747A.mullvad.net) has joined #crytocc 09:31:57 *** faust has quit (Ping timeout) 09:31:57 *** Ishaq has quit (Ping timeout) 09:32:12 *** anon_curi has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net fireball.cryto.net) 09:32:12 *** razentka has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net fireball.cryto.net) 09:32:12 *** IR601 has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net fireball.cryto.net) 09:32:40 *** Ishaq (Ishaq@BB7C761.7ED3CFFA.55B54D33.IP) has joined #crytocc 09:34:19 *** IR601 (IR601@cryto-68B0D61F.terrori.se) has joined #crytocc 09:35:45 *** faust (faust@cryto-D3BD747A.mullvad.net) has joined #crytocc 09:35:45 *** razentka (razentka@186A8A0A.AA517E7E.DB3C1458.IP) has joined #crytocc 09:35:45 *** faust has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net fireball.cryto.net) 09:35:45 *** razentka has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net fireball.cryto.net) 09:37:30 *** faust (faust@cryto-D3BD747A.mullvad.net) has joined #crytocc 09:37:30 *** razentka (razentka@186A8A0A.AA517E7E.DB3C1458.IP) has joined #crytocc 09:37:30 *** faust has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net fireball.cryto.net) 09:37:30 *** razentka has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net fireball.cryto.net) 09:39:19 *** faust (faust@cryto-D3BD747A.mullvad.net) has joined #crytocc 09:39:19 *** razentka (razentka@186A8A0A.AA517E7E.DB3C1458.IP) has joined #crytocc 09:39:20 *** faust has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net fireball.cryto.net) 09:39:20 *** razentka has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net fireball.cryto.net) 09:41:04 *** faust (faust@cryto-D3BD747A.mullvad.net) has joined #crytocc 09:41:04 *** razentka (razentka@186A8A0A.AA517E7E.DB3C1458.IP) has joined #crytocc 09:41:04 *** faust has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net fireball.cryto.net) 09:41:04 *** razentka has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net fireball.cryto.net) 09:41:47 *** Divinite is now known as faust 09:41:57 see 09:42:09 Netsplit kills Nickserv 09:42:19 This is why we can't have nice things! 09:42:49 *** faust has quit (Killed (second-nexus.cryto.net (Nick Collision))) 09:42:49 *** faust (faust@cryto-D3BD747A.mullvad.net) has joined #crytocc 09:42:49 *** razentka (razentka@186A8A0A.AA517E7E.DB3C1458.IP) has joined #crytocc 09:42:49 *** faust has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net fireball.cryto.net) 09:42:49 *** razentka has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net fireball.cryto.net) 09:42:52 *** faust (root@CE4052C8.CF1E43B9.E13471D5.IP) has joined #crytocc 09:43:11 Ah 09:43:12 FFS 09:43:25 *** faust is now known as Divinite 09:44:34 *** faust (faust@cryto-D3BD747A.mullvad.net) has joined #crytocc 09:44:34 *** razentka (razentka@186A8A0A.AA517E7E.DB3C1458.IP) has joined #crytocc 09:44:34 *** faust has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net fireball.cryto.net) 09:44:34 *** razentka has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net fireball.cryto.net) 09:44:37 Divinite: huh? 09:44:43 also wtf is going on here 09:45:34 *** faust (faust@cryto-D3BD747A.mullvad.net) has joined #crytocc 09:45:34 *** razentka (razentka@186A8A0A.AA517E7E.DB3C1458.IP) has joined #crytocc 09:50:17 *** mama (me@2370958F.3CD1955A.B2EBD6BC.IP) has joined #crytocc 09:51:04 is cryto ddosed too? 09:52:27 not that I am aware of 09:52:49 what else could possibly cause netsplits? 09:53:01 ha, ask colocrossing that 09:53:02 :P 09:53:02 ah! good! and hi joepie91 :) 09:53:18 ryan: colocrossing has been terrible lately 09:53:27 constant network blips 09:53:31 o 09:53:33 the irony 09:53:35 and it seems more and more providers are moving to colocrossing 09:53:37 blog.cloudflare.com 09:53:37 doesnt load 09:53:37 wait 09:53:40 I don't think 09:53:42 that counts as irony 09:53:45 CF died again? 09:53:52 cloudflare pages don't tend to load 09:53:55 no but their blog did 09:54:01 Oh noes! Something went wrong. 09:54:18 they seem to be having a bad day lately 09:54:22 I should crash cloudflare ns servers by feeding them a huge bullshit zone with millions of records 09:54:29 also, hai mama 09:54:37 ryan: wait, CF uses posterous? 09:54:41 ya 09:54:45 that is... interesting 09:54:49 seeing as posterous is shutting down 09:54:54 oh crap 09:54:55 :) 09:55:01 oh are they? 09:55:02 eh... I think I have an idea why CF blog is down 09:55:02 one sec 09:55:02 lol 09:55:09 I didn't know that 09:55:10 lol 09:55:19 I was going to audit them 09:55:23 but I guess its too late 09:55:32 ryan: origin detected 09:55:37 there's an archiveteam project underway 09:55:39 but yea you can feed cloudflare nameservers zones of infinite sizes 09:55:40 to archive all of posterous 09:55:43 o 09:55:45 before they shut down 09:55:50 apparently posterous died under the load again 09:55:50 lol 09:55:54 loll 09:55:57 at least that's what it seems like 09:56:02 well cloudflare always online 09:56:05 seems to be 09:56:07 doing a v good job 09:56:14 I think they turned that off after their own routing fuckup 09:56:19 for the blog I mean 09:56:25 I guess 09:56:31 I assume you've read the post mortem? 09:56:43 Yep 09:57:15 I also started watching as their routes started dying right at the moment I got an alert about my site being down 09:57:41 I try to track the downtime caused by cloudflare and the downtime caused by srsvps 09:57:49 so far cloudflare is winning 09:57:52 I do have to say it was quite a monumental fuckup, but I'm not really sure yet whether to blame cloudflare or juniper 09:57:56 heh 09:58:10 Blame cloudflare for feeding their routers bullshit and not staging their stuff 09:58:20 idk... that's what I would have done if it were a generic config change 09:58:28 but this was afaik a rule to filter an attack 09:58:33 Matthew Prince was lying on their blog 09:58:35 it was a rule 09:58:35 there's not much time/opportunity to stage that I think 09:58:39 that would never match anything 09:58:51 so the rule only existed due to noc staff incompetency 09:58:58 hm, that's true 09:59:02 and all mass routing changes should be staged 09:59:23 Matthew Prince even claimed they staged it 09:59:23 how come 09:59:27 all of their routers crashed 09:59:28 Pro Tip people 09:59:32 but not the staging one? 09:59:32 Do not use 123systems 09:59:33 they lie 09:59:41 their support is non-existant 09:59:48 and their nodes are so full it isn't funny 09:59:57 Divinite: I knew this a year ago 09:59:58 :| 10:00:14 I was with them 10:00:18 back when they were good 10:00:26 two'ish years ago 10:00:29 there have been warning signs for the past year or so 10:00:31 Was my first box 10:00:39 heh 10:00:41 $12/yr 128mb box 10:00:54 Needless to say, it was bad.. 10:00:59 aws 10:01:06 NOOOO 10:01:07 NOT AWS 10:01:09 NO 10:01:13 best host 10:01:14 BAD BAD BAD 10:01:17 NOOOO 10:01:18 can't exactly say AWS uptime is great either... 10:01:20 :| 10:01:22 AWS SUCKS 10:01:25 DO NOT USE 10:01:29 Divinite: yes, we get it 10:01:38 good :) 10:01:45 Well only downtime I've experienced is when I crashed my node by testing if the firewall thing actually works against ddos 10:01:47 not that I could use AWS if I wanted to 10:01:48 well it didn't 10:01:50 * joepie91 doesn't have a CC 10:01:56 ryan: haha 10:02:03 anyway, the US east outages are pretty common 10:02:06 maybe other locations are better 10:02:10 (or was it US west?) 10:02:14 but the one that netflix and friends use... 10:02:19 yeah well 10:02:25 Only good thing about aws 10:02:29 is that it is FREE 10:02:32 That's it 10:02:37 *For one year* 10:02:47 Divinite: try submitting abuse reports to AWS 10:02:50 just for fun 10:02:56 well I moved my instance to UK 10:03:00 you send them a list of 100 IPs 10:03:04 they will create 100 separate tickets 10:03:08 yes? 10:03:09 joepie91: I have never ever sent a abuse report 10:03:10 sending you 100 notifications any time anything happens 10:03:11 Ever 10:03:11 that is 10:03:13 what you should do 10:03:23 aside of maybe sending 100 notifications 10:03:25 ryan: except they were all from the same owner, so they could've combined it in one ticket 10:03:29 nah 10:03:39 every instance should be handled separately 10:03:50 but maybe sending 100 emails isnt the right way to go around it 10:03:51 at the very least they should've grouped the notifications 10:03:53 exactly 10:04:02 like, all 100 changed status in the same minute 10:04:04 so might as well group it up... 10:04:15 instead of spamming two pages of emails 10:04:15 Yeah joepie91 10:04:25 I asked them to set my rdns 10:04:29 they told me that the instance isnt mine 10:04:36 ryan: They won't bother 10:04:41 Go with a proper host 10:04:43 lol? 10:04:47 that's madness 10:05:01 yah 10:05:04 Divinite: like what? 10:05:16 BlueVM 10:05:17 Divinite: I will shoot you if you say Linode 10:05:24 LINODE 10:05:28 PFFFFTT 10:05:31 * joepie91 shoots Divinite 10:05:33 how much 10:05:34 uptime 10:05:35 on bluevm 10:05:40 Overpriced peace of shit 10:05:46 I get 10:05:47 v mad 10:05:48 ryan: Uptime 99.995 10:05:50 over any downtime 10:05:54 does that mean 10:05:56 Guarenteed 10:05:58 my box might randomly reboot 10:06:06 I don't care about the length of the uptime 10:06:10 s/up/down 10:06:13 ryan: Unless you screw something up, no 10:06:19 I care about me losing my stuff it the host node decides to reboot 10:06:21 I would've grabbed my uptime from my bluevm box 10:06:25 but everything has just been transfered 10:06:32 ryan: Take it from me 10:06:32 to new location 10:06:40 I have been with a whole heap of providers 10:07:00 I have never gotten this great quality of service and speed from any other host 10:07:01 what vps cp they use? 10:07:06 http://uptime.bluevm.com/ 10:07:06 oh ok 10:07:17 ryan: hypervm, for now 10:07:18 They use HyperVM 10:07:21 22 days top uptime 10:07:24 doesn't look too good 10:07:29 ryan: transfer just happened 10:07:32 yeah 10:07:35 ryan: They had transfer 10:07:37 loool 10:07:41 *** evilworks has quit (Ping timeout) 10:07:44 hypervm? 10:07:46 never moving 10:07:54 ryan: I'm pretty sure I had my AWS box rebooted every 2 hours 10:07:58 It sucked 10:08:21 * joepie91 is pretty okay with srsvps so far 10:08:40 only downtime I've experienced within my time on aws has been caused by me 10:08:51 and I've been on them for like two months now 10:09:13 any location suggestions with bluevm? 10:09:16 maybe I'll take a look 10:10:11 well 10:10:12 my main problem right now is that most of bluevm locations are now at colocrossing, and they still have the network blips 10:10:18 ^that 10:10:18 like chicagovps and ipxcore 10:10:25 * joepie91 really doesn't like colocrossing 10:10:28 All providers are pretty unhappy 10:10:28 (anymore) 10:10:36 Yeah they used to be great 10:10:40 anyway, *supposedly* colocrossing is working on that 10:10:41 but those contracts... 10:10:48 Locking the providers in... 10:10:50 but they have also supposedly been working on ipv6 for the past half year 10:10:58 and it still isn't there 10:11:03 which location 10:11:06 is least fucked up 10:11:19 * joepie91 only has experience with illinois 10:11:26 well, anf buffalo/ny 10:11:29 and * 10:11:32