00:10:52 yes mama 00:10:59 I sorry I not seeing you 00:11:25 hello ebola 00:11:32 *** pzuraq has quit (Input/output error) 00:11:33 pm please 00:11:37 ok 00:12:00 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-78DF0B68.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 00:24:32 *** AnonMutt has quit (User quit: Leaving...) 00:38:52 *** joepie91_ has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 00:38:52 *** IR601 has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 00:38:52 *** crates has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 00:38:52 *** smithsonian_ has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 00:39:55 *** crytoweb763 (crytoweb76@cryto-D710E8B5.war.clearwire-wmx.net) has joined #crytocc 00:40:19 *** crytoweb763 has quit (User quit: Page closed) 00:43:59 *** IR601 (IR601@cryto-68B0D61F.terrori.se) has joined #crytocc 00:46:07 *** joepie91_ (joepie91@cryto-A6766B2C.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 00:46:07 *** smithsonian_ (vi.veri@82EFC3E.FF48BD2C.1838B1DE.IP) has joined #crytocc 00:50:05 *** crates (crates@cryto-7FDC2D28.snydernet.net) has joined #crytocc 01:15:31 *** pzuraq has quit (Input/output error) 01:19:10 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-78DF0B68.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 01:59:36 joepie91:) how was yo' day? 02:13:26 *** lady-3jane has quit (User quit: Leaving) 02:17:54 *** flyingpenis (flyingpeni@cryto-34CEA7D4.dhcp.mrba.ca.charter.com) has joined #crytocc 02:23:51 wh1t3r4bb1t 02:28:53 oh yes! the giant fuzzy dicks of goodness and love have descended! Libreoffice 4 is available in a PPA! :D 02:33:15 *** lady-3jane (lady3jane@cryto-34CEA7D4.dhcp.mrba.ca.charter.com) has joined #crytocc 02:35:31 flyingpenis: PPA? 02:41:06 This is atrotious 02:41:11 No FTP STILL 02:41:15 For Nuzey 02:42:19 yes, ubuntu ppa 03:14:44 *** joepie91_ has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 03:14:44 *** smithsonian_ has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 03:16:31 how old cryto, few months, year, more ... ? 03:16:43 about two years 03:17:04 *** joepie91_ (joepie91@cryto-A6766B2C.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 03:17:04 *** smithsonian_ (vi.veri@82EFC3E.FF48BD2C.1838B1DE.IP) has joined #crytocc 03:18:39 OMG 03:18:44 These netsplits are getting worse 03:24:50 *** joepie91_ has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 03:24:50 *** smithsonian_ has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 03:27:01 *** joepie91_ (joepie91@cryto-A6766B2C.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 03:27:01 *** smithsonian_ (vi.veri@82EFC3E.FF48BD2C.1838B1DE.IP) has joined #crytocc 03:40:24 Divinite: yes, I am aware 03:50:40 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubNF9QNEQLA 04:03:00 *** Chasenet has quit (Ping timeout) 04:10:47 *** Chasenet (Pillus@cryto-620FD584.clients.your-server.de) has joined #crytocc 04:15:04 *** smithsonian_ has quit (User quit: bai) 04:20:32 *** flyingpenis has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net buffalo.cryto.net) 04:20:32 *** crates has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net buffalo.cryto.net) 04:20:32 *** DrWhat has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net buffalo.cryto.net) 04:20:32 *** tustkle has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net buffalo.cryto.net) 04:20:32 *** Ishaq has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net buffalo.cryto.net) 04:20:32 *** AnonForecast has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net buffalo.cryto.net) 04:20:32 *** AppleJack has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net buffalo.cryto.net) 04:20:32 *** MK_FG has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net buffalo.cryto.net) 04:20:32 *** Kamonra has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net buffalo.cryto.net) 04:20:32 *** jamesbt has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net buffalo.cryto.net) 04:22:09 *** smithsonian (vi.veri@82EFC3E.FF48BD2C.1838B1DE.IP) has joined #crytocc 04:26:06 *** tustkle (tustkle@186A8A0A.AA517E7E.DB3C1458.IP) has joined #crytocc 04:30:54 *** AppleJack (sb@cryto-A18B0645.drama.tw) has joined #crytocc 04:32:15 *** flyingpenis (flyingpeni@cryto-34CEA7D4.dhcp.mrba.ca.charter.com) has joined #crytocc 04:32:15 *** crates (crates@cryto-7FDC2D28.snydernet.net) has joined #crytocc 04:32:15 *** Ishaq (Ishaq@BB7C761.7ED3CFFA.55B54D33.IP) has joined #crytocc 04:32:15 *** AnonForecast (AnonForeca@cryto-999D5D74.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #crytocc 04:32:15 *** MK_FG (MK_FG@BCA4995B.11B256F5.3B131C16.IP) has joined #crytocc 04:32:15 *** Kamonra (kamonra@cryto-348E1525.hostedby.us) has joined #crytocc 04:32:15 *** jamesbt (jamesbt@E62F62BC.DCD17C32.959A841C.IP) has joined #crytocc 04:33:43 *** tustkle has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 04:33:43 *** joepie91_ has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net arvel.cryto.net) 04:40:19 *** tustkle (tustkle@186A8A0A.AA517E7E.DB3C1458.IP) has joined #crytocc 04:41:03 *** joepie91_ (joepie91@cryto-A6766B2C.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 04:42:26 It would be 04:42:31 so easy 04:42:38 to take these nicks 04:54:33 twitchyliquid64, Doesn't seem to be different from same-arch virtualization, where vm kernel runs as such "cpu" with it's instructions being ran on hardware cpu directly 05:07:55 *** flyingpenis has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net buffalo.cryto.net) 05:07:55 *** crates has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net buffalo.cryto.net) 05:07:55 *** Ishaq has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net buffalo.cryto.net) 05:07:55 *** AnonForecast has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net buffalo.cryto.net) 05:07:55 *** MK_FG has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net buffalo.cryto.net) 05:07:55 *** Kamonra has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net buffalo.cryto.net) 05:07:55 *** jamesbt has quit (second-nexus.cryto.net buffalo.cryto.net) 05:15:13 *** flyingpenis (flyingpeni@cryto-34CEA7D4.dhcp.mrba.ca.charter.com) has joined #crytocc 05:15:13 *** crates (crates@cryto-7FDC2D28.snydernet.net) has joined #crytocc 05:15:13 *** Ishaq (Ishaq@BB7C761.7ED3CFFA.55B54D33.IP) has joined #crytocc 05:15:13 *** AnonForecast (AnonForeca@cryto-999D5D74.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #crytocc 05:15:13 *** MK_FG (MK_FG@BCA4995B.11B256F5.3B131C16.IP) has joined #crytocc 05:15:13 *** Kamonra (kamonra@cryto-348E1525.hostedby.us) has joined #crytocc 05:15:13 *** jamesbt (jamesbt@E62F62BC.DCD17C32.959A841C.IP) has joined #crytocc 05:27:41 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 06:09:21 *** watup (hi@cryto-B38CDBA0.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #crytocc 06:09:29 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ1moK0x5V0 06:17:45 you're in the wrong channel, watup 06:17:59 idk 06:18:15 joepie91: u the real joepie? 06:18:50 guy who runs anonnews? 06:28:59 yes 06:29:03 @ watup 06:29:45 so why arent u op? 06:32:26 because I'm not currently identified with nickserv 06:32:29 services are sort of down 06:33:02 just opered up, you can /whois me 06:34:38 nice to meet u joepie big fan 06:39:01 *** another-anon10 (another-an@cryto-E51ABD6D.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) has joined #crytocc 06:43:44 lol 06:44:16 NP: [P.O.S - Fuck Your Stuff] [We Don't Even Live Here] [905kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane 06:44:18 <3<3,3 07:33:15 *** pzuraq has quit (Input/output error) 08:01:59 *** watup is now known as ilikeapricot 08:31:24 *** joepie91 has quit (Ping timeout) 08:32:13 *** joepie91_ has quit (Ping timeout) 08:35:58 *** foolex has quit (Ping timeout) 08:36:00 MK_FG: same-arch visualization? 08:36:06 google is not finding much about that 08:36:37 twitchyliquid64: I think he means seme-os 08:36:42 *same 08:39:18 No, I just mean running amd64 kvm on amd64, for example 08:39:33 It won't emulate cpu in code at all 08:40:09 It'll just set some isolation hooks via virtualization instructions and run the vm kernel on bare hw, I think 08:40:44 So you can think of that kernel as "Virtual CPU" 08:41:03 (running straight on top of physical one) 08:41:51 In fact, I think qemu and kvm split apart just on that basis 08:42:09 qemu has huge codebase that emulates physical cpu in code 08:42:28 While kvm just allows running kernel as a pid in the current os 08:43:29 (and there's a lite lkvm thing btw, which goes away with all the qemu emulation, was even proposed to be merged to tools/ in kernel repo) 08:44:44 *** foolex (foolex@78EA513B.7DC890E0.CEC56216.IP) has joined #crytocc 08:46:38 hmmm 08:46:44 I have to go the emulation path 08:46:52 because I want it to run on all hardware 08:46:56 not just specific archs 08:46:59 there is a reason 08:47:13 also, do you know of a tiny linux distro? 08:47:22 CLI only, and prefs only a few mg's? 08:47:27 * twitchyliquid64 pokes MK_FG 08:48:15 Well, if you want to run on all hw, again, just running linux seem to give you a reasonable range ;) 08:48:32 "prefs only a few mg's"? 08:48:44 Not sure what "mg" is there 08:49:27 But dunno, I think gentoo or arch can be lite enough, though not what one might call "tiny" 08:49:31 megabyte 08:49:44 Oh, then dracut ;) 08:49:52 Or busybox 08:50:01 There's all the the distro you need ;) 08:50:47 dracut has a bit different goal, but I found it to be a good framework to assemble simple shell-based distro on 08:51:06 just curious wats the topic supposed to be here? 08:51:12 Busybox isnt a distro 08:51:16 But in general, I'd say you don't need a distro for a "few mg's" 08:51:22 the /topic seems to be vague 08:51:45 It isn't, yeah, but it's all you can cram into such space 08:51:46 ilikeapricot: this channel is meant for general discussion for coders who wish to be a part of CrytoCC 08:52:09 and cryptoCC is? (sry for the nob questions) 08:52:10 Just do ln -s /bin/ash /sbin/init and there ya go with bb ;) 08:52:25 *noob 08:52:33 And it has a nice package manager with "make menuconfig" ;) 08:52:34 ilikeapricot: CrytoCC 08:52:40 Cryto Coding Collective 08:52:48 So really... why isn't it a distro? ;) 08:52:54 ok 08:53:27 MK_FG: whats /bin/ash? 08:53:38 Im a beginner with the barebones of linux 08:53:40 trying to get better 08:53:41 Shell that comes with busybox (bb) 08:53:44 but still beginner :/ 08:53:48 what? no bash? 08:53:58 Well, it's quite similar 08:54:05 Bash is like 2-4 megs all by itself 08:54:17 It's just huge for embedded space 08:54:33 (hence the ash for bb and dash for debian init and dracut) 08:54:58 Get bb sources and do "make menuconfig" there 08:55:24 I'm sure you'll find soooo much more than you'd expect (unless you've done that before) 08:55:37 (like, httpd and various net daemons there) 08:58:58 MK_FG: you seem to know an awful lot about everything linux 08:59:02 where did you lean? 08:59:04 *learn 08:59:13 I can use linux, but I cant do linux proper 08:59:17 I want to learn 09:00:06 It's a hard question, it's not like I took some course and *bam* - enlightened 09:00:21 Just find it interesting, so picked some stuff here and there 09:00:40 Can't think of a better short summary 09:01:18 *** ilikeapricot has parted #crytocc (Leaving) 09:03:25 MK_FG: do you understand inodes and the internals of the file system? 09:03:42 Yeah, of course 09:03:54 LWN is actually a great source there 09:04:17 For some reason, editors there like to pick on fs'es a lot 09:04:31 So every new fs architecture gets reviewed there ad nauseum ;) 09:04:33 MK_FG: one thing I dont understand 09:04:33 I had 09:04:35 two actually 09:04:47 firstly, are inodes stored on disk? or are they a memory concept? 09:04:48 MK_FG: I had /bin/msh 09:05:09 twitchyliquid64, There is ambiguity with regards to that 09:05:20 "inode" might refer to two separate things 09:05:51 One is memory structure in linux headers, stable and well-documented, it's a VFS concept 09:06:13 And the other is "inode" on a particular fs, which holds fs-specific bits of metadata 09:06:27 So direct answer is "both" ;) 09:06:41 right 09:06:45 Divinite, I use /bin/zsh everywhere I can ;) 09:06:46 so if I do ls -i 09:06:54 is that the FS or the LFS inode? 09:07:03 *VFS 09:07:58 That number is filled into memory inode struct by fs implementation, I think 09:08:08 For ext* it'll be inode number on-disk 09:08:18 For some inodeless fs, it can be whatever 09:08:27 (maybe there won't be anything at all) 09:08:49 im starting to get confused 09:08:56 where can I read up on the internals of the VFS? 09:09:24 I'd google it, you'll probably find plenty of good intro articles on lwn and such 09:09:41 But otherwise, there're probably much more hardcore docs in the Documentation/ 09:09:46 lwn? 09:09:47 (in the kernel source tree) 09:09:55 http://lwn.net 09:09:58 right 09:10:00 thanks 09:14:39 *** Shoe7 (Shoe@cryto-4CDBED2C.rev.sfr.net) has joined #crytocc 09:14:44 *** Shoe7 has parted #crytocc (Quitte) 09:20:09 so internally, linux has a whole lot of VFS nodes which are linked together, wwith fields that describe what the node represents 09:22:17 and witha file that node references the inode? 09:22:56 * twitchyliquid64 pokes MK_FG 09:24:00 Yes, internally I think it's "vfs > namespace > mount > vfs inode, dentry" 09:24:13 namespace? 09:24:26 But can't parse "witha file that node references the inode" 09:24:36 Mount namespaces 09:24:43 Used in e.g. openvz and similar stuff 09:24:47 and is dentry a caching concept? or is it the same as a directory? 09:24:58 same as mount points? 09:25:04 So that "/" for one user is not the same for the other, and both can mount stuff there 09:25:27 It's a purely caching concept, I think, yeah 09:25:37 FS code implements lookups there 09:26:28 "same as mount points?" - what, dentry? Not really, I guess 09:26:53 no, are mount points == mount namespaces 09:26:56 I guess not 09:26:58 Mount points are just sub-namespaces to tell kernel which callbacks to use for which paths in vfs 09:27:10 Anyone know 09:27:14 No, namespaces are groups of these, yeah 09:28:13 How I can set up a print server that has a web interface for uploading documents? 09:28:33 Don't cups allow that? 09:29:06 Hm, though I guess not, certainly not for all formats 09:29:26 (but it had webui for lots of stuff iirc, so maybe there's some plugin) 09:32:31 Perhaps 09:43:02 *** joepie91 (joepie91@cryto-4505A735.dsl.cambrium.nl) has joined #crytocc 09:43:09 look whos back 09:50:45 Crazy person? 09:51:13 no, joes back 09:51:58 Ah 09:52:26 Crazy person is back 09:52:38 no, joes back 09:57:43 Crazy person 09:57:45 Yes 09:57:53 no, joes back 09:58:23 yeah 09:58:28 Crazy perso 09:58:29 n 09:58:35 no, joes back 09:59:43 Crazy person 09:59:48 Yes 09:59:55 no, joes back 10:00:05 Crazy person. Yes 10:00:10 no, joes back 10:00:13 Crazy person. Yes 10:00:17 no, joes back 10:00:18 Crazy person. Yes 10:00:20 no, joes back 10:00:34 Crazy person. Yes 10:00:37 no, joes back 10:00:39 Crazy person. Yes 10:00:40 no, joes back 10:00:42 Crazy person. Yes 10:00:43 no, joes back 10:00:45 Crazy person. Yes 10:00:46 no, joes back 10:00:49 Crazy person. Yes 10:00:50 no, joes back 10:00:51 Crazy person. Yes 10:00:55 no, joes back 10:00:57 Crazy person. Yes 10:00:59 no, joes back 10:01:01 Crazy person. Yes 10:01:02 no, joes back 10:01:03 Crazy person. Yes 10:01:04 no, joes back 10:01:05 Crazy person. Yes 10:01:06 no, joes back 10:01:07 Crazy person. Yes 10:01:08 no, joes back 10:01:09 Crazy person. Yes 10:01:11 no, joes back 10:01:12 Crazy person. Yes 10:01:14 Crazy person. Yes 10:01:22 no, joes back 10:01:23 Crazy person. Yes 10:01:25 no, joes back 10:01:26 Crazy person. Yes 10:01:28 no, joes back 10:01:30 Crazy person. Yes 10:01:35 no, joes back 10:01:37 Crazy person. Yes 10:01:38 no, joes back 10:01:40 Crazy person. Yes 10:01:45 no, joes back 10:01:46 Crazy person. Yes 10:01:52 no, joes back 10:01:54 Crazy person. Yes 10:01:55 no, joes back 10:01:59 Crazy person. Yes 10:02:09 ............................... 10:02:09 no 10:02:15 Crazy person. Yes 10:02:19 no 10:02:44 Crazy person. Yes 10:02:49 no 10:02:57 Crazy person. Yes 10:03:05 // 10:03:09 ============================================== 10:03:13 SAILING BOAT 10:03:24 Failure sailing boat 10:03:46 Only to those who lack the creativity to see 10:04:00 It would sink 10:04:23 only in a sea of your capitalist thoughts 10:04:58 Better than your sludgy river of communist ideas 10:05:57 At least my river gives life to the fish of creativity 10:06:16 sigh 10:06:20 I come back to spam 10:06:21 lol 10:06:31 shuush joepie91m im having fun 10:06:37 *Im 10:06:58 *** wh1t3r4bb1t (antarctica@cryto-497FB66D.direcpc.com) has joined #crytocc 10:07:01 I'm* 10:07:31 [I\'m]* 10:07:31 Your river eventually has to get to the sea 10:07:35 You're what? 10:07:53 wh1t3r4bb1t 10:07:58 FTP NO WORK 10:09:19 I know. I broke it. 10:10:54 Y U BREAK IT 10:13:05 Because I need to setup better ftp authentication that matches passwords with your nuzey login. 10:14:38 Aha 10:14:40 An eta? 10:17:21 *ETA 10:18:52 *** BLTGeno (BLTGeno4@D68C9ED.3BC0875E.71C5A468.IP) has joined #crytocc 10:22:58 364 Days 23 hours and 54 min. 10:27:02 *** mama (me@cryto-DFEC3329.snydernet.net) has joined #crytocc 10:34:26 *** BLTGeno has quit (Ping timeout) 10:35:39 *** BLTGeno (BLTGeno4@D68C9ED.3BC0875E.71C5A468.IP) has joined #crytocc 10:36:40 Weeeww 10:36:44 Great ETA 10:47:05 I know I have tooooo many projects. 10:48:31 Current;y a lack of funding which directly effects my motivation towards that project. So, I work on the projects with funding. My belly likes food. 10:48:42 currently* 10:54:44 I bet 10:54:52 a litle bit of PA would help 11:08:49 PA = personal assistant? 12:10:48 *** jamesbt has quit (Ping timeout) 12:48:13 *** joepie91 has quit (Ping timeout) 13:12:07 *** mama_ (me@BC9C782E.DA3E8586.A0534C64.IP) has joined #crytocc 13:12:51 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 13:12:56 *** mama_ is now known as mama 13:13:37 *** another-anon10 has quit (User quit: ) 13:20:43 *** mama has quit (Broken pipe) 15:09:18 *** another-anon10 (another-an@cryto-E51ABD6D.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) has joined #crytocc 15:35:32 *** another-anon10 has quit (User quit: RAGEQUIT) 15:50:49 *** DrWhat (VGHJHBN@cryto-C0B73CE6.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #crytocc 15:50:52 Great news 15:51:07 I found a kinda vbulltin plugin frame work for using the login 15:51:36 I just need the Have it not display the accual page untill the user has loged in 15:51:46 atm 15:51:52 it says you need to login or register 15:51:56 and then shows the search 15:52:03 I want to remove the search 15:52:53 Found it 15:52:54 if ($vbulletin->userinfo['userid']!=0) { 15:52:55 :) 15:57:23 Logs of hard work for that :D 15:57:36 a whole week of surfing 15:57:39 My legs are tired 16:02:21 *** mama (me@cryto-A6E1A088.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 16:14:08 *** zxcvbnm (zxcvbnm@cryto-7B663E92.static.cloud-ips.com) has joined #crytocc 16:14:11 oh herro 16:14:31 dicks! 16:14:58 I've got a question early this morning 16:15:12 * lady-3jane just wants a bit of coffee 16:15:21 * zxcvbnm has had tons of coffee 16:16:30 * lady-3jane also wishes their laptop didn't have a kworker going nuts :( 16:16:44 * lady-3jane pees on linus 16:17:07 Ok so, Web OWA (outlook web app), does anyone know of a solution for IP logging/alerting? sort of like gmail notifies you if you've logged in from IP addresses across the world 16:24:48 I have a question 16:25:11 If i do $var = if ($somthing == 1){ 16:25:13 and the rest 16:25:22 will $var hold all that or just the one line 16:26:55 Sounds like a function returning a value would be more appropriate 16:27:22 NP: [P.O.S - Fuck Your Stuff] [We Don't Even Live Here] [905kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane 16:47:38 *** joepie91 (joepie91@cryto-A6766B2C.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 16:49:15 ryan: well, that finnish proxy service isn't very fast, but I've received the monies 16:49:54 oh cool 16:49:54 thanks for the tip, again :P 16:49:57 its probably banks the most 16:50:02 it takes a couple of days for me to my acct 16:50:07 well, it took them 2-3 days to respond to the deposit 16:50:20 I usually get response and sms immediately 16:50:21 after already moving it to another address 16:50:24 and then sales alert 16:50:31 well 16:50:33 it works though 16:50:34 took about a week here in total I think 16:50:38 yes, it definitely does 16:51:26 that's actually the most usable bitcoin thing I've ever ran into I think 16:52:10 joepie91: did you see my OWA question? 16:52:50 zxcvbnm How would i do that? 16:53:59 zxcvbnm: hi 16:54:01 I probably have not 16:54:07 also, ryan, I did an IRL bitcoin to euro exchange today 16:54:13 achievement unlocked 16:54:20 was someone I know though 16:54:50 DrWhat: Well, I'm not sure exactly what context you're doing this in, this is PHP right? 16:55:15 yes 16:55:34 joepie91: hey :D My question was related to owa (outlook web app), it's kind of far-fetched, but thought you might have an idea. Looking for an add-on similar to gmail's anti-fraud, so when you log in from a different IP a red flag goes up 16:55:49 joepie91: yeah, the problem with that is the fact that it's not exactly convenient if you don't know people 16:55:57 zxcvbnm: don't use OWA 16:56:07 even though exchange is great, OWA isn't 16:56:17 joepie91 the question is 16:56:18 ryan: That's the problem, we use OWA, and it's a huge attack vector 16:56:18 ryan: I agree, it was more a coincidence than anything else... I was talking about random stuff and bitcoin came up 16:56:30 Can i store a if statement in a variable 16:56:31 zxcvbnm: make it only accessible with a vpn 16:56:39 zxcvbnm: I have absolutely no idea as to your question 16:56:41 basicly 16:56:52 generally, microsoft thngs are outside my experrise 16:56:53 expertise * 16:56:54 DrWhat: It'd basically be: function foo() { if blah return $blah } 16:57:00 there are exceptions, but as a general rule of thumb 16:57:07 DrWhat: then call foo() 16:57:08 ok 16:57:19 thaks 16:57:34 hey, uh, wait 16:57:36 DrWhat: But you need to pass it parameters, lookup PHP function for exact syntax 16:57:38 about the if statement thing 16:57:41 DrWhat: what *exactly* do you need 16:57:45 as specific as possible 16:58:22 I want to start a full if/else statement in a veriable 16:58:27 then echo the veriable 16:58:29 ryan: That is what we want to do, but there is some sandbagging in the way 16:58:37 DrWhat: do you want to store the if statement itself, or the result of it? 16:58:37 But zxcvbnm Said i should use a finction 16:58:47 the if statemtn it self 16:58:58 ryan: so, in the interim, I'm trying to leave an audit trail 16:58:59 zxcvbnm: that's the only way you can do it without huge points of attack 16:59:01 as in, should it be evaluated when you assign it to the variable, or should it be evaluated when you use the variable? 16:59:03 also 16:59:07 I were reading unrealircd dev list 16:59:07 I think that +u itself should be removed... the main purpose of it in reality is that it allows bot herders to hide their bots. While I understand that they can readd the feature, I think the only real practical aspect is the moderation component, which behaves like charybdis +z (as seen on freenode). 16:59:17 that coming from one of the project founders 16:59:33 +u is "don't show non ops in /names" 16:59:35 DrWhat: I think you should explain more about what you're using this for 16:59:50 ryan: like +D, sort of? 16:59:55 but minus appearing on talk 17:00:20 somthing like that 17:00:21 http://prntscr.com/v4r7z 17:00:23 (pft, amateur mail company... instead of getting post.nl, they got postnl.nl...) 17:01:03 DrWhat: I have absolutely no idea what you're trying to do 17:01:09 oh 17:01:11 that line at the top 17:01:11 sec 17:01:31 right 17:01:39 DrWhat: what you want to do is *technically* possible with the ternary operator 17:01:45 but it would get so messy that there's no point in doing so 17:02:00 the best option would be to simply do 17:02:15 a function? 17:02:26 if($loggedinblah) { $output = "blah blah"; } else { $output = "herp derp"; } 17:02:30 joepie91: yeah 17:02:39 I don't really see why you'd need any more than that, DrWhat 17:03:09 But thats what the if is 17:03:21 I want to store the statement of if ($vbulletin->userinfo['userid']!=0) { 17:03:36 then echo $loginstate in the file that include this php file 17:03:42 where i want 17:03:46 Like i have atm 17:04:02 DrWhat: there is no reason in itself to "store the statement" 17:04:10 I am trying to figure out what makes you think you need to do that 17:04:11 http://prntscr.com/v4rsz 17:04:46 DrWhat: why does a normal if statement not suffice 17:05:05 Becuase i like having clean includes 17:05:16 I have index requeiring 1 include 17:05:20 that then includes all the others 17:05:44 DrWhat: you've now said a few different things, none of which make sense 17:05:49 answer the following questions 17:05:53 Do i ever make sense :D 17:05:55 as specific and to-the-point as you can 17:06:01 1. what is the current way your code works 17:06:08 (include code example in pastebin) 17:06:20 2. what is the way you want your code to work (optionally include pseudocode in pastebin) 17:06:28 3. why do you want that change to happen 17:06:33 give clear answers 17:06:50 in other news, wtf mail company, y u no recognize my tracking code 17:06:52 How it works atm is index.php has 1 include 17:07:00 require('inc.php'); 17:07:14 with then have about 8 other files to unclude 17:07:20 soo all the code is on the top line 17:07:41 adding this other file 17:07:53 I need to have the code in some kinda of variable 17:08:01 so it can be echo'd out laters in the page 17:08:22 you need to have *what* code in a variable? 17:09:41 http://pastebin.com/4K242pKE 17:09:58 that how i want it to work 17:10:09 So theni can echo $loginstate later in the page 17:10:17 In a nice cossy place 17:11:09