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11:36:46 MK_FG, Hyperboria, yeah, I forgot to mention 11:40:57 Heh, I'm there too 12:05:04 *** pjtyler (pjtyler@cryto-54383BCE.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 12:06:26 *** pjtyler has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 12:13:27 oh, that's nice :) 12:14:05 I'm wondering HOW people has time to work on these things! 12:14:24 atm I only have time for studying 12:15:09 I imagine maybe in the future I'll have more time? maybe you too spent much time studying and then had the time to apply everything? boh.. 12:38:18 You don't study mesh networks, alternative routing theories and crypto there, I guess ;) 12:38:49 Best way to "study" these seem to be just go read whitepaper, test it, build your own 12:39:03 this is another factor that demotivated me 12:39:07 in the sense that... 12:39:17 I have an "example" person 12:39:22 a "model" 12:39:23 But I guess there are areas where you really need to study before applying that knowledge 12:39:50 of course there are 12:40:35 I hope one day my knowledge will be valuable and of help in these revolutionary projects 12:41:01 my supposed* knowledge, what I will be supposed to know after uni... 12:41:11 monod: me too :) ATM everything I teach myself is far more useful than what I learn at uni 12:42:08 twitchyliquid64, of course there are certain courses - like electrotechniques - which I can't see as a good tool for the future, but... 12:42:20 I think everything they prepare to fit in a course may turn useful 12:42:39 monod: whats your course? 12:43:24 anyway, I also taught myself something, but I have not reached very high levels.. It's a course called Information Engineering, it's quite an awesome and vast topic I think 12:43:30 spans lots of thigns 12:43:42 especially telecommunications and informatics 12:43:42 monod: nice 12:43:48 Im doing plain old IT 12:44:06 monod: so you learn how modern telecommunications systems work? phone systems? 12:44:45 twitchyliquid64: there are 3 other choices beyond those, which are "Robotics" (Automation), Bio-engineering and Electronic. To answer that, I shall say that... 12:45:03 Heh, "phone systems" seem to be term describing what was there before "modern telecommunications systems" (packet switching) ;) 12:46:01 MK_FG: monod: so you believe modern telecommunications simply operate over the internet? 12:46:27 You mean cell phones? Yes, they do 12:46:32 twitchyliquid64, I can only choose one among informatics and telecommunications, and I was pending for the former. I've also spoke with a professor who confirmed that it was a good idea to choose informatics, to remain in a more general environment than with telecoms. btw, MK_FG is right 12:46:42 it's satellite I think 12:46:50 damn, gotta eat :) 12:46:53 back asap 12:47:01 thats always interested me 12:47:02 I worked at telco and had a machine in the service net with all the base-stations there ;) 12:47:18 It was an epic infosec fail 12:47:38 because it seems that the phone network backbone was obscured yet cool at the same time 12:47:47 and I have quite the curiousity 12:48:03 so is it just base stations that use IP to the interchanges then dedi lines from there? 12:48:21 or is it IP the WHOLE way? do base stations talk directly to each other? 12:49:04 I actually don't know how they talk to each other, and have no xp with IP-based telephony like asterisk and such, so dunno too 12:49:17 But they do have IPs and chat inside IP network somehow 12:49:35 Maybe they just have some mesh on top of IP, dunno 12:49:50 so ur sure that the base stations route calls via IP thou? 12:49:52 *but 12:51:23 They are plugged with ethernet cables into switches that lead to simple ethernet-bridge + IP net, I find it unlikely that they have some special non-ethernet layer there at the same time... 12:51:46 Have something parallel to IP - maybe, dunno 12:52:02 That could explain why they were bridged like that though 13:06:13 so, I learned yesterday that by pressing on the ground coffee in a coffee filter with a spoon, you can make the resulting coffee far more flavourful 13:06:21 and... that actually works! 13:06:40 joepie91: did you know that? 13:06:53 your meant to PRESS it down after you put it in 13:06:55 ALWAYS 13:07:08 there are special tools for it, most people dont use a spoon :P 13:07:26 french press etc, I know 13:07:35 a drip coffee machine doesn't put pressure on it either afaik 13:07:36 joepie91: also, can I get some HTML help real quick? 13:07:39 sure 13:08:05 pm 13:10:17 also, twitchyliquid64, it's pretty normal here to use drip methoid 13:10:18 method * 13:10:34 even when doing it manually, you typically just pour water over the ground coffee in a filter 13:11:00 joepie91: most people here just go to a coffe shop to get it done properly lol 13:11:04 or use a machine 13:11:06 lol 13:11:29 I'm pretty sure drip coffee machines (the ones that are most common here) don't actually apply pressure... 13:17:27 hm 13:17:39 this guys not bad. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjw7rr_aksM 13:37:15 *** Xeross|AFK is now known as Xeross 13:38:27 *** monod has quit (Ping timeout) 13:39:40 *** HiveResearch has quit (Ping timeout) 13:51:58 *** monod (~pmpf@monod.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 13:55:33 *** HiveResearch (HiveResear@developers.developers.developers) has joined #crytocc 13:58:42 *** HiveResearch has quit (Ping timeout) 14:00:20 good, time for studying. 14:02:15 but before that, any suggestion for a DNS server to use? 14:06:44 or also: do you suggest OpenDNS? 14:08:49 Hm, you didn't mean dns resolver daemon? 14:09:12 I'd say 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 - teh big google brother 14:09:44 OpenDNS used to give out spam IPs instead of NXDOMAIN, which was quite annoying 14:20:38 *** AnonO_o (AnonO_o@anonO_o) has joined #crytocc 14:20:45 so you're going for the big brotah 14:21:03 hai 14:21:30 Yep, it loves all of us 14:21:55 *terms and conditions apply 14:24:46 llullz 14:28:38 for fuck sakes. 15:32:35 *** speakeasy has quit (Ping timeout) 15:47:01 *** x (foobar@cryto-4ABAF172.as5577.net) has joined #crytocc 16:13:34 *** joepie92 (joepie91@cryto-3E6002EF.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 16:14:21 *** joepie92 has quit (User quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 16:33:54 *** iceTwy has quit (Input/output error) 16:58:32 well, I've decided 16:58:34 I like purecss 16:58:54 seems to be the first CSS framework to get forms right, also 16:59:15 *** AnonyOps (anonyops@cryto-5167D786.woh.res.rr.com) has joined #crytocc 17:01:45 AnonyOps, hai 17:01:53 *** AnonO_o has quit (Input/output error) 17:01:59 hi 17:02:05 you see my ping joepie? 17:02:14 will look in a sec 17:02:19 you seen purecss.io? 17:03:06 No I haven't 17:07:17 http://purecss.io 17:07:17 :P 17:07:21 I really like it so far 17:07:29 also seems to be the first CSS framework to get forms right 17:07:33 as in, entirely right 17:07:42 as in, no form layout headaches 17:07:42 :P 17:09:08 *** speakeasy (speakeasy@cryto-D25FDC50.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #crytocc 17:10:48 hm, reading up on it now :p 17:20:59 purecss fanboi 17:21:19 ;D 17:23:00 x: I have no issues being a 'fanboy' for anything that makes my issues with forms go away 17:23:01 :) 17:23:17 assuming it's not ridiculously messy/shitty otherwise 17:24:30 no I understand ;D 17:24:54 many moons ago, I was once an asp fanboi 17:25:00 then I woke up 17:25:05 :D 17:25:17 but nah, just playing with you :p 17:25:23 purecss is win 17:33:32 *** mama (anon@cryto-DFEC3329.snydernet.net) has joined #crytocc 17:37:14 *** speakeasy has quit (Ping timeout) 17:47:13 *** AnonyOps2 (anonyops@cryto-5167D786.woh.res.rr.com) has joined #crytocc 17:47:23 *** AnonyOps has quit (Ping timeout) 17:47:44 joepie91, Just watched Minecraft documentary you linked the other day 17:48:05 joepie91, Thanks a lot, it really is damn awesome and amaziiing!!! 17:48:11 it is :) 17:48:17 glad you liked it 17:48:36 Currently, I feel it's like the most inspirational vid I ever watched 17:48:40 * joepie91 reminds that you can buy it online properly without DRM etc 17:48:43 MK_FG: I had the same 17:48:48 another good one is indie game the moie 17:48:50 movie * 17:48:53 if I recall the name correctly 17:48:56 it's similar in style and effect 17:49:04 not sure if you've seen it? it was in a humble bundle 17:49:28 Probably not, never got any of these 17:49:44 I'll upload it, one moment :) 17:49:45 Will check it out 17:49:53 after I figure out where exactly on my system it is 17:49:59 Surely it's already there ;) 17:50:11 oh, it's probably on TPB etc 17:50:18 but not sure if that's full quality version or some shitty transcode 17:50:26 might as well dig up my original and upload it 17:51:15 also, impressed: purecss/yuilibrary have a 'security contact info' link at the bottom, leading to a dedicated page with contact information for reporting security issues 17:54:08 .bitcoin 17:54:09 1 BTC = $99.00, 1 BTC = €76.53 17:54:12 @ AnonyOps2 17:54:15 used to be $120 a few days ago 17:54:28 I see lol 17:55:24 damn it has dropped then 17:55:32 I remeber seeing it as 130 when I checked o.O 18:21:30 is it just a case or is it on purpose? starting typing "hyperboria" on google's toolbar does not give you suggestion about hyperboria.net until you've typed "hyperbori".. and it's only the second-to-last in the list... but. In a sense, it might be better not being publicized too early, in order to not ifnlate expectations..right? what do you think? 18:35:29 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 18:35:39 monod: ping 18:35:47 back here 18:35:51 pon? 18:35:53 pong? 18:40:47 *** Angelina (Administra@Angelina.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 18:42:27 yes 18:42:27 sorry 18:42:33 monod: studying still? 18:42:52 I'm taking a rest 18:43:04 10h of studying straight 18:43:10 woke up at 8AM, started at 8:30 18:43:18 only break was shower + lunch 18:43:31 AKA: finals in 1 week 18:43:37 I don't know if I can study one more hour. Did you studied that much today? :D 18:43:56 Yup. I've got 4h to go 18:44:07 And then, 14h/day for the next 3 days. 18:44:20 oh... gawd.. 18:44:24 insane 18:44:26 but necessary 18:44:42 so you're taking a rest too? 18:44:43 :D 18:44:50 got this in the meanwhile http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistleblower-surveillance?CMP=twt_gu 18:45:17 no 18:45:18 I'm not 18:45:25 I can't lol 18:46:46 oh 18:46:56 my head was exploding, so I'm now taking a rest. 18:47:01 but I can study until dinner 18:47:04 mine is as well 18:47:13 lunch was... 18:47:16 more than 7h ago 18:47:32 zomg :) 18:47:39 yeah.. 18:47:40 x) 18:47:48 oh, why did you ping then? :D 18:48:08 I was curious ;p wanted to know whether you were still studying 18:48:23 heh 18:48:31 I'm resting for some 30 minutes now 18:48:54 but I think I should rest away from keyboard 18:48:57 lulz 18:49:01 otherwise: headache 18:49:13 what are you studying? 18:49:37 geography 18:49:48 you? 18:49:56 physics 18:50:52 welcome back angelina! 18:51:26 http://www.heise.de/tp/artikel/5/5263/1.html 18:51:33 dunno if you knew this already guys 18:52:09 going afk! 18:58:23 *** x has quit (Input/output error) 19:08:40 *** speakeasy (speakeasy@speakeasy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 19:11:52 *** speakeasy has quit (Ping timeout) 19:56:53 *** Rev (Rev@Rev.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 19:57:32 iceTwy: pong 20:02:41 *** emptyreddata (emptyred@856A53CC.B454AB78.6B89ED8F.IP) has joined #crytocc 20:04:05 also, emptyreddata, you may find the thing I'm working on right now to be interesting 20:04:12 also, hai 20:04:20 (context: I responded in another channel) 20:04:21 Hai lol. I probably will 20:04:34 todo list for overworked hackers basically 20:04:39 Sweet 20:04:43 you add tasks with either 'must' or 'want' as type 20:04:51 and it'll assign you a new task to work on every time you complete one 20:04:56 alternating between want (play) and must (work) 20:05:04 joepie91: hai 20:05:04 *** S1renide (S1renide@cryto-54383BCE.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 20:05:21 if it's a 'want' task, you can say "I don't want to do this" and it'll give you a different 'want' task (and leave the old one in the pool) 20:05:29 Oh cool. Is it just an idea atm or you got some code going? :) 20:05:33 if it's a 'must' task, you can't skip it, and have to complete it before it gives you a new one 20:05:33 well 20:05:36 I basically have it working 20:05:40 just need to do the login/registration thingie 20:05:45 Very nice :) 20:05:50 other than that, it works :P 20:05:55 idea is to solve two problems: 20:06:02 A. "OH MY GOD I HAVE SO MUCH TO DO I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START" 20:06:12 (as it assigns you a task rather than letting you choose) 20:06:19 B. alternating between work and play 20:06:25 *** S1renide has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 20:06:43 so you don't constantly have the weight of "I still have to do work" on your shoulders while trying to do some relaxing weekend project coding 20:06:43 Lol, it's good OPSEC to differentiate between work and play 20:07:12 it's also a very good way to avoid stress :) 20:07:24 let me make a screenshot of what I have now, one moment 20:07:54 joepie91: hai before I go full caps 20:08:31 iceTwy: hai 20:08:33 * joepie91 takes cover 20:08:52 hehe 20:09:08 as we're talking about work methods 20:09:15 lemme tell you how real men do it; 20:09:17 14h straight 20:09:24 http://owely.com/4iEUba 20:09:34 That snowden guy is in so much trouble. He has balls for leaking what he did and using his real name 20:10:00 http://owely.com/61mRgYC 20:10:04 Damn I love the design jopie91 20:10:08 joepie91: https://www.google.com/calendar/ 20:10:12 enjoy 20:10:14 thank me later 20:10:15 :3 20:10:16 emptyreddata: snowden guy? 20:10:28 The guy who leaked all the PRISM stuff 20:10:34 joepie91: whistleblower behind PRISM 20:10:42 iceTwy: not open-source, doesn't have this functionality, doesn't have a proper API of which you can be sure that it won't change 20:10:43 etc 20:10:46 ah 20:10:50 I missed some news while coding it seems 20:10:51 link? 20:11:01 also, google calendar is _way_ too bulky :P 20:11:02 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistleblower-surveillance 20:11:12 it works just fine 20:11:19 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/08/nsa-prism-server-collection-facebook-google 20:11:35 Yes it is. I'm glad you said that cause I thought I was the only one 20:11:35 xD 20:12:01 oh... wow, that's insane (the snowden guy) 20:12:03 in a good way 20:13:21 iceTwy; it doesn't work fine if you just need a simple todo list that tells you what to do and that has minimal distractions 20:13:35 well, that's a point 20:13:38 plus all the other aforementioned issues :P 20:13:48 now this is my agenda so it is therefore my todo list 20:13:49 (plus, it's Google, so datamining walhalla) 20:13:56 (yes :<) 20:14:01 but lemme be a google fanboy 20:14:06 because I love arsing people 20:14:09 lol 20:14:12 :D 20:15:37 So is this project of yours opensauce joepie? 20:15:51 at least a cool point is that Agenda is sync'd with my Galaxy S2 20:16:02 very, very, very useful 20:17:12 emptyreddata: yes :) 20:18:57 link? :) 20:19:09 joepie91: is it coded in php? 20:19:12 nowhere yet :P 20:19:16 should finish it in a bit 20:19:17 Ah lol 20:19:18 watching the guardian vid first 20:19:20 iceTwy: yes 20:19:26 joepie91: :< 20:19:41 lol 20:19:44 stop complaining :P 20:20:02 prepare for a sad emote spam 20:20:03 in 3 20:20:03 2 20:20:04 1 20:20:06 :> 20:20:06 :> 20:20:11 fail 20:20:14 no 20:20:18 intended fail 20:20:38 I wanna see if I can remake it in Go as an exercise in web app programming 20:21:30 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 20:22:24 *** mama (anon@76FB8616.647B0DE2.6976A0E0.IP) has joined #crytocc 20:30:45 emptyreddata: :D 20:30:45 also 20:30:47 this guy is amazing 20:30:59 Snowden? 20:35:18 yes 20:35:24 * joepie91 uploads interview to archive.org 20:35:36 :) 20:36:35 http://archive.org/details/NSA-PRISM-Whistleblower-EdwardSnowden-Interview 20:38:41 either way 20:38:43 back to code 20:38:45 want to finish it now 20:38:45 :P 20:47:42 *** HiveResearch (HiveResear@developers.developers.developers) has joined #crytocc 20:58:13 okay 20:58:19 this is starting to get strange 20:58:29 Por que? 20:58:32 why is it that every time I complain about outdated packages in a repository, someone goes out and upgrades it? 20:58:48 like a while ago, I complained on IRC in a random channel that the chrome package in the repo was a few versions out of date 20:58:53 few days later, a new update magically appears 20:59:04 Maybe it is just coincidence 20:59:14 now yesterday I was stating here that the red eclipse package in the opensuse games repo was outdated (it was 1.2, newest version was 1.4.x) 20:59:15 and guess what 20:59:18 today there's an update 20:59:25 red eclipse 1.4-2.1 20:59:26 .... 20:59:36 thing is, every time it jumps a few versions when this happens 20:59:37 :| 20:59:52 hasn't been updated for god knows how long, I complain, suddenly gets updated 20:59:55 hence mildly scary :P 20:59:58 They're watching you :3 21:00:05 maybe PRISM is notifying package maintainers! 21:00:06 haha 21:00:31 Ha. Package maintainers have prism APIs 21:00:33 xD 21:00:35 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 21:02:16 well, that's the most plausible explanation for this :P 21:24:54 emptyreddata: there? :P 21:25:09 http://github.com/joepie91/todo < code preview 21:25:41 *** AnonO_o (AnonO_o@anonO_o) has joined #crytocc 21:25:44 hai 21:27:37 slightly important remark 21:27:50 it does the whole try-before-signup thing by creating users on first page load with 'guest' = true 21:28:07 once you register, you are actually already registered, it just sets the username and password to what you entered 21:32:20 sad. I can't seem to get on any other networks without TOR timing out... even after doing new identity a few times. 21:32:44 wait a bit AnonForecast 21:32:45 ops 21:32:49 AnonO_o, * 21:33:14 got. to. go.. 21:33:23 ttyl monod :) 21:33:23 *** monod has quit (User quit: byebye good guys) 21:39:24 *** BigAnon has quit (Client exited) 21:40:11 I like it :) 21:41:25 joe, what distro.. ubuntu's unity is pissing me off 21:47:43 opensuse with xfce or KDE depending on ow many resources you have 21:48:49 how * 21:49:04 and depending on whether you like KDE 21:49:21 xfce4 ok? 21:52:52 *** zest (zest@cryto-399FF2DF.ro1.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 21:59:07 yes 22:00:26 Why OpenSuse? :O 22:01:21 because shit just works 22:01:29 and keeps working 22:01:43 as with every distro (and Windows), there are a few things that don't work out of the box 22:01:49 Lol, I haven't tried OpenSuse yet. I have played with their OpenSuse distro lab creator thing 22:01:50 but 99.99% of what you try will work straight away 22:01:55 and more importantly 22:01:57 updates won't break shit 22:02:17 you can upgrade your kernel, packages, and distro without a care in the world because the chance that it's going to break anything is near non-existent 22:02:17 :p 22:02:39 I still use Ubuntu and Arch sometimes. I dislike unity so I just installed cinnamon 22:02:40 :) 22:03:10 (that said, it's less mod-friendly than for example Debian... changing internal stuff around is a bit more work in suse and more prone to going wrong... as long as you use pre-made packages/configurations/etc everything will be rock solid though) 22:03:13 heh 22:03:29 does suse use apt-get? 22:03:32 np 22:03:33 no * 22:03:34 it uses zypper 22:03:39 which works a LOT like apt, but with RPMs 22:03:46 lighter than yum, similar workings to apt, nicer output than both 22:03:56 learning curve? 22:03:59 and yast as graphical frontend 22:04:00 almost none :P 22:04:05 k 22:04:08 as for zypper, examples: 22:04:12 zypper install package-name 22:04:21 zypper install -package-i-want-gone +package-i-want-installed 22:04:25 I love pacman 22:04:30 zypper install package-name<=2.1 22:04:36 all valid commands 22:04:59 zypper ps will show you a list of applications that use files that have been upgraded (indicating you should restart those applications to have the updates apply) 22:05:13 I need an iPad with the retina so I could use vnc to my VM from my bed for optimum laziness. 22:05:15 and zypper search gives a nice table layout with search results, including whether a package is currently installed or not 22:05:42 and another nice point about suse (not zypper in particular) is that there's often more than one version of a package in the repo 22:05:51 otherwise the keyboard takes up most of the screen. 22:05:53 so if something doesn't work as it should because a dev fucked up, you can just roll back :P 22:06:03 AnonO_o: don't VNC clients for the ipad have a zoom thingie? 22:06:12 emptyreddata: haven't worked with pacman 22:06:36 It's the default on Arch linux, it's so easy to use. It's as easy as apt and similar to use 22:06:49 dunno. my dad's is the old 1st gen, so the resolution is shit 22:07:10 I was speculating that with more resolution the keyboard might be smaller? 22:08:59 shouldn't it just be possible to actually make the keyboard smaller...? 22:11:38 I haven't foudn out how. his fingers are large so the buttons are more to his size 22:12:00 I could probably type on 1/2 the size 22:17:16 *** ShadowDemon (alexgurrol@shadowdemon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 22:17:40 guess I'll play some redeclipse while this 4G downloads. 22:17:44 thanks joe. 22:17:44 Meow 22:18:01 *** AnonO_o has quit (Input/output error) 22:18:07 For web development 22:18:27 Which would be better for a CMS? Ruby or PHP? 22:19:39 Go 22:20:12 Why Go? 22:20:24 Cause I am lonely 22:20:25 :( 22:20:35 That and go has some cool features for web dev 22:20:37 Hard to get use to 22:20:43 But it is totally worth it :) 22:22:25 Hmmm 22:22:30 I suppose that would be interesting 22:23:00 And probably pretty fast 22:23:36 emptyreddata: twitchyliquid64 also uses Go, iirc 22:23:37 :) 22:23:46 lol 22:24:10 yeah, twitchyliquid64 loves Go 22:24:23 In all fairness, it is a pretty simple system 22:25:00 vps reinstall time! 22:36:36 good 22:36:37 night 22:37:38 *** iceTwy has quit (User quit: Quit) 22:42:28 lol 22:42:48 I only reinstalled my vps because I switch to Debian 7 from 6 22:44:30 I'm going to be switching to 6 or 7 22:44:32 depending on what the host has 22:44:36 box is still running 5... 22:46:14 OMG 22:46:19 Seriously?!? 22:46:23 lol 22:46:25 yes, why? 22:47:03 It was released in the beginning of 09 22:47:07 you do realize that a dist-upgrade on openvz almost never goes without problems, so you have to reinstall an entire VPS to update to a new stable version? 22:47:13 yes, I don't see the issue with that 22:47:32 It's not that it's a bad version 22:47:35 have you seen the centos support cycle? 22:48:02 http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/General#head-fe8a0be91ee3e7dea812e8694491e1dde5b75e6d 22:48:07 CentOS-5 updates until Mar 31, 2017 22:48:21 Oh CentOS 22:48:27 I thought you were talking Debian 5 22:48:38 that's 6 years after release of centos 6 22:48:39 I was 22:48:43 I was just taking centos as an example 22:48:50 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny 22:48:51 of how just looking at the amount of years makes no sense 22:48:54 *** Xeross is now known as Xeross|AFK 22:48:58 and yes, I know lenny is EOL 22:49:02 LOL 22:49:17 I've been slowly moving over my boxes to squeeze 22:49:38 In all fairness, I only have 1 VPS 22:49:50 I have quite a few 22:50:01 Yeah, I understand then. 22:50:08 It's a long process 22:50:25 indeed 22:50:28 very time-consuming, very frustrating 22:50:32 and generally undesirable 22:50:39 for someone that has issues getting his code work done... :) 22:50:51 you can guess my attitude towards not-strictly-necessary upgrades 22:51:19 I actually partitioned my VPS into 4 slices. Data, Debian 6, Debian 7, and Swap. Every so often, I would switch to Debian 7 for a progressively longer time until everything finally worked. 22:51:30 speaking of which 22:51:33 is debian 7 usable now? 22:52:06 Debian 7 is considered Stable as of May 5th 22:52:25 yes, but is it _usable_ 22:52:26 :p 22:52:33 Yes, lol. 22:52:49 It had a lot of updates in the beginning 22:53:04 But now it all slowed down and everything seems to be working okay for me anyway. 22:53:14 Although, I still haven't gotten around to install ioncube 22:55:03 fuck ioncube 22:55:50 I needed it for my billing gateway, but I canceled my subscription after I upgraded to Debian 7 22:56:18 well, this is just very very strange... df -h and openvz control panel both say 1.5 gigs in use 22:56:28 but I've downloaded 10 gigs of data from that box so far 22:56:30 wat 22:56:55 Weird 22:57:12 Mine says 1.4, but that is just the OS 22:57:37 Do you split your drive up between your OS and Misc Data 22:57:53 it's an openvz vps 22:58:00 no such thing as splitting up drive 22:58:04 :P 23:03:39 *** aHlTat (aHlTat@aHlTat.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 23:04:20 o 23:04:35 I forgot about that 23:04:48 I've been on Xen for quite some time 23:04:53 brb all, nom nom time 23:07:38 :) 23:07:49 VPS reinstall almost finished.. 23:08:04 *** ShadowDemon has quit (Ping timeout) 23:16:45 nevening! why fuck ioncube, isnt that for boosting performance? 23:29:21 scraepy: no, it's not 23:29:25 you're probably confused with Zend 23:29:33 Ioncube is shitty 'code encryption' 23:29:39 to try and 'prevent theft of intellectual property' 23:29:45 in normal people language: ineffective and obnoxious bullshit 23:29:47 anyway 23:29:56 i hap multiple php version where i can choose to handle the ion 23:29:57 emptyreddata, others: http://todo.cryto.net/! :D 23:30:05 first version done! 23:31:28 Cool beans :). Also sent you a "buddie" request over XMPP. 23:31:44 I noticed :D 23:32:07 You have OTR? 23:32:41 yes 23:32:54 ofc :P 23:33:30 Lol, aye 23:34:43 *** AnonForecast_ (AnonForeca@cryto-BD5AB353.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #crytocc 23:36:32 *** AnonForecast has quit (Ping timeout) 23:45:27 *** mama_ (anon@cryto-70E29873.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 23:45:33 *** mama_ is now known as mama