00:18:47 this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7agPOt1XZz8 00:19:55 :3:3 00:22:00 NP: [CSS - Let's Make Love And Listen To Death From Above (Spank Rock Remix)] [FABRICLIVE.33] [925kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane 00:23:51 also very good: 00:23:52 NP: [Alice In Chains - Heaven Beside You] [Alice In Chains] [899kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane 00:23:56 *** testuser (testuser@cryto-4E0C48D2.noisetor.net) has joined #crytocc 00:24:04 what's up all? 00:24:13 dickall 00:24:19 read the topic :) 00:26:50 another favorite: https://vimeo.com/62092214 00:32:11 erm erm erm 00:32:14 lady-3jane: 00:32:21 I knew CSS before ya! 00:32:45 oh? 00:34:06 2008 00:34:08 what about you? 00:34:19 a year or two ago 00:34:30 unless they're the same one that did the css remix 00:34:39 hm 00:34:42 anyhow; 00:34:44 ♪ NP @ iceTwy ♪ - Manilla Road - Playground of the Damned - Playground of the Damned (2011) // 958kbps 00:35:40 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaiQXr2KZBc 00:35:58 that song was SO well timed 00:36:04 *** testuser has quit (Input/output error) 00:36:53 so this is how the protests in Cyprus look like 00:36:54 ? 00:37:09 yeah 00:37:30 LOOOOOL 00:37:51 yeah, it's fuckin proper 00:38:04 It still brings a tear to my eyes 00:38:27 sufficiently sophisticated ad, thus indistinguishable from actual culture 00:39:16 totally going to icetwy.re 00:40:28 mmmm "Any sufficiently sophisticated advertisement is indistinguishable from actual culture." 00:40:50 along with "Any sufficiently advanced algorithm is indistinguishable from human intelligence" 00:41:39 It's a very good pattern 00:42:17 mmmm 00:42:18 Je ne suis pas d'accord avec ce que vous dites, mais je me battrai jusqu'au bout pour que vous puissiez le dire. 00:47:54 "Any sufficiently structured sentence is indistinguishable from other sufficiently structured sentences" 00:47:56 :) 00:48:45 :> 00:48:53 I really like that template though 00:48:54 and uh 00:49:07 "I like... I wonder..." as a way to frame constructive criticism 00:50:46 learned that one in highschool :> As soon as you finished the presentation, you had 10 minutes of questions 00:51:00 lady-3jane: nice French quote 00:51:04 merci :> 00:51:17 je t'en prie :p 00:51:27 satoshi said: "don't you worry, don't you worry child!" 00:51:31 "bitcoin's got a plan for you!" 00:51:42 It's by "Evelyn Beatrice Hall" 00:51:46 to source 00:52:29 http://www.bitcointrezor.com/ 00:53:25 well, at least they hired a real webdev 00:53:37 ? 00:53:38 none of the others do 00:53:52 It doesn't look like fucking shit 00:54:19 mmmm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4yfWRscHz0 00:54:36 lol 00:57:23 *** Divinite has quit (User quit: I'm gone for now, be back later!) 00:57:43 oh god 00:57:49 why am I making geology jokes again 00:57:50 fuck 00:58:03 I do love it when people take geology classes 00:58:10 because then they can understand some of my jokes 01:08:23 hmm 01:08:38 such as? 01:08:39 lady-3jane: ? 01:08:41 I really can't wait to be in the income bracket where I can have clothes made for me 01:08:46 04joepie91 made 4 commit(s) to 03cvm on branch 10feature/terminate-vps: '02Merge branch 'fix/start-tunnel' into develop', '02Fix display bug with administrative VPS controls', '02Handle JSON errors in slave responses properly', '02Merge branch 'fix/node-admin' into feature/terminate-vps' (https://github.com/joepie91/cvm/compare/a89d0234ed...b7a2150625) 01:08:50 04joepie91 made 2 commit(s) to 03cvm on branch 10develop: '02Fix display bug with administrative VPS controls', '02Handle JSON errors in slave responses properly' (https://github.com/joepie91/cvm/compare/35ccac1930...3a135a15f7) 01:08:50 er 01:08:52 no 01:09:02 They're not text jokes 01:10:54 hmm 01:11:01 and someday I will find someone who can do proper krumping 01:11:08 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vTo2p3F_v8 01:11:11 that guy's okay 01:12:03 It's a badass dance style, though pretty much everybody hates it 01:47:34 LA lady-3jane 01:47:37 fuck 01:48:12 iceTwy:) sup? 01:48:30 how are you doing lady-3jane 01:48:52 little drunk 01:49:14 finding... shit I uploaded to my server 01:49:16 :"D 01:49:18 :D * 01:49:40 hahahaha 01:49:58 xD 01:50:13 Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothin' but the truth, so help yo 01:50:17 ' black ass? 01:50:22 You're god damn right! 01:50:49 1. I don't have a black ass 01:50:54 2. I'm a serial liar 01:50:56 3. Problem? 01:50:59 4. ??? 01:51:01 5. PROFIT 01:51:11 FUCK DA FUCKDA FUCKDA FUCKDA POLICE 01:51:37 http://youtu.be/Cq_NsK0LjXY?t=1m 01:53:04 goin' through my youtube likes lol 01:57:17 also a favorite, though not music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKyIw9fs8T4 01:57:22 *** barao_zito (pipibsb@A777711D.F5D8DED1.2143CA4E.IP) has joined #crytocc 02:00:24 *** barao_zito has quit (User quit: CyberScript - not made by microsoft 14(www.cyberscript.org)) 02:00:26 * lady-3jane BARBRA STREISAND 02:00:35 WOO0O0O0O0O0O0O000000 0OW0O0O0O0O0O0O0O00000 02:01:20 portuguese, yeah okay 02:01:30 dafuck 02:01:31 u drunk 02:01:41 yes 02:01:54 barao zito's script was from portuguese author 02:02:00 last updated in 2006 02:02:08 ^_^ 02:02:26 maybe .br 02:02:27 heh 02:02:33 BRASIIIIIIIIIL 02:02:47 YAAAY BRASILIA 02:02:53 wait, you don't know barbra streisand do you 02:03:09 dude 02:03:10 come on 02:03:47 http://youtu.be/J1mGWhLwu64?t=14s 02:03:56 I don't, it's a song 02:04:02 blocked in the country of the Frenchies 02:04:10 also some lady I don't give a fuck about 02:04:11 too bad 02:04:41 can you mp3? 02:05:03 iceTwy:) ^ 02:05:04 no 02:05:07 i r sleep 02:05:11 sucks 02:05:12 it's five past 4AM 02:05:16 derp 02:05:23 GOOD NIGHT <3 02:05:29 night! 02:05:37 night! 02:05:40 *** iceTwy has quit (User quit: Quit) 02:21:01 *** In (input@cryto-555A0779.dynamic.rev.eftel.com) has joined #crytocc 02:40:36 *** In has quit (User quit: I'm gone for now, be back later!) 03:01:22 *** ShadowDemon (alexgurrol@cryto-507D6D5.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 03:27:25 *** HiveResearch has quit (Ping timeout) 03:35:03 *** EmptyRedData (Empty@856A53CC.B454AB78.6B89ED8F.IP) has joined #crytocc 03:46:26 *** ShadowDemon has quit (Ping timeout) 04:36:29 *** AnonO_o (AnonO_o@anonO_o) has joined #crytocc 06:00:36 *** ShadowDemon (alexgurrol@cryto-507D6D5.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 06:56:00 *** AnonO_o has quit (Input/output error) 07:52:51 *** AnonyOps has quit (Connection reset by peer) 08:31:01 *** EmptyRedData has quit (User quit: Leaving) 08:31:22 *** mama (anon@cryto-84C88BCC.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 08:50:28 What's the new hot forum software that got a lot of hype a few months ago? Discuss or something? What's it called? 08:52:25 Found, http://www.discourse.org/ 08:55:01 *** foolex has quit (Client exited) 08:58:27 *** foolex (foolex@AD356075.7DC890E0.CEC56216.IP) has joined #crytocc 09:06:56 Life is good. 09:07:30 It is, at times, indeed 09:08:54 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 09:21:25 *** speakeasy (speakeasy@cryto-D95C3747.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #crytocc 09:48:11 MK_FG: More so when the baby is asleep. :D 09:50:45 ohai 09:55:23 \o 09:57:06 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 09:57:11 hai! 10:13:38 *** iceTwy has quit (Ping timeout) 10:17:04 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 11:25:11 lady-3jane: dat song 11:25:12 ♪ NP @ iceTwy ♪ - Pink Floyd - High Hopes - Pulse (1995) // 5323kbps 11:36:07 *** MaryJane has quit (Ping timeout) 11:39:55 well 11:40:01 just got back from funfair 11:40:03 made some photos 11:40:03 cc iceTwy 11:46:40 also guess what 11:46:43 I found some popstations! 11:47:36 lol 11:47:39 That's weird 11:48:16 photo series incoming 11:50:54 http://imgur.com/a/j88jz 11:50:58 cc ShadowDemon iceTwy lady-3jane others 11:55:43 back 11:55:44 yes 11:55:45 lemme see 11:55:57 kermis dordrecht 11:55:58 yayaya 11:56:07 awesome pics :o 11:56:10 very colourful, love them 11:56:16 there's a few meh pictures 11:56:21 I'll be going again wednesday morning 11:56:23 during opening 11:56:25 so I can get sunny shots 11:56:56 lol, this one: http://i.imgur.com/C2kpYxxh.jpg 11:57:31 and that old dude at the end 11:57:32 lmao 11:57:48 matter of fact I really need to go out 11:57:52 clown guy is an awesome guy (the standing clown) 11:57:54 talked to him for a while 11:58:09 last time I went out was on Friday, for the national music day 11:58:11 the driving one is just funny 11:58:12 and heh 11:58:35 also 11:58:36 iceTwy 11:58:46 the colourfulness is why I'm using a Canon camera 11:58:47 yes 11:58:49 even though it's cheapo 11:58:53 and the picture quality isn't great 11:58:58 the colors are very... 'vibrant' 11:59:01 they are 11:59:23 never knew you were interested in photography tho ^^ 11:59:30 do have to say that this camera isn't very good at high light contrasts 11:59:41 (see the standing clown picture or pictures with trees) 11:59:44 yup, unfortunately 11:59:53 iceTwy: not particularly, just as a fun thing to do 12:00:01 I like pictures, I like making nice pictures 12:00:05 but not _terribly_ interested in it 12:00:07 :p 12:00:14 there's one thing I HATE about taking pictures 12:00:16 well, two actually 12:00:36 1. Asian people taking pictures 24/7 NON STOP when they're visiting some place 12:00:46 haha 12:00:48 I'll remember that American park we saw, can't remember which one it was 12:00:55 you had like, a family of 10 Japanese folks 12:01:02 they were taking pictures non stop 12:01:04 for at least 2h 12:01:07 AND 12:01:21 2. the thing I hate the most, like, ever 12:01:32 2. people filming concerts 12:01:45 D: 12:01:46 why? 12:01:47 you just see screens everywhere and they're obstructing your view 12:01:51 oh 12:01:55 and you have a god damn memory to remember good times 12:02:01 eh, not really :P 12:02:09 I'm all for recording, people just have to get rid of the display 12:02:12 you're not living the /moment/ if you just stand there with your camera 12:02:14 read: turn off display and keep your hand still 12:02:17 no 12:02:27 I say, just forget about recording and enjoy the god damn moment 12:02:33 no :P 12:02:35 yes 12:02:39 unless you're sat 12:02:47 but when you're in the crowd just in front of the stage 12:02:50 it's VERY annoying 12:03:43 meh 12:03:53 I really don't care, provided the display is turned off 12:03:57 lit displays are annoying as fuck 12:04:01 yes 12:04:02 they are 12:04:32 like, don't get me wrong - I don't mind 2 or 3 people filming 12:04:34 sigh 12:04:36 come on wikileaks 12:04:39 but in a crowd of 40k people 12:04:39 ugh 12:04:41 if you timestamp your PRs 12:04:43 at least include the timezone 12:04:43 :| 12:04:54 iceTwy: I was more refering to the odd recording 12:04:59 than to the entire crowd filming 12:05:06 if it's other people already filming, just ask them to send it to you 12:05:07 :P 12:05:11 they do include the timezone? 12:05:14 http://wikileaks.org/gottfrid-docs/ 12:05:19 PRs 12:05:20 top right corner, below the title 12:05:32 http://wikileaks.org/WikiLeaks-Statement-On-Edward.html 12:05:35 oh 12:05:35 yes 12:05:43 no TZ 12:06:06 He's going to Venezuela either way 12:06:09 it's confirmed 12:06:20 he's flying to Moscow right now, then will leave and join Cuba tomorrow 12:06:27 and from there on he'll go to VZ 12:07:28 *** ShadowDemon has quit (Ping timeout) 12:08:32 I'll probably go out this afternoon and ride my bike 12:08:36 I really need to move my ass lol 12:12:19 lol 12:15:38 I'm doing this as soon as I finish my finals: 12:15:56 http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml 12:16:25 cc joepie91 12:16:32 noted 12:16:52 I should totally use your todo program 12:16:53 link? 12:19:17 http://todo.cryto.net/about 12:19:18 :p 12:21:10 hmm :p 12:23:47 I need to do something else than sitting & listening to music 12:23:48 ;o 12:53:34 *** Xeross|AFK is now known as Xeross 12:53:49 Xeross: http://joepie91.wordpress.com/2013/06/23/8-jarige-moet-het-maar-zonder-begeleiding-doen-aldus-chasse-theater-breda/ 12:56:56 *** HiveResearch (HiveResear@developers.developers.developers) has joined #crytocc 12:58:18 joepie91: google translate 13:04:04 how well does google translate work 13:04:06 on this article? 13:04:07 iceTwy 13:04:18 huuh 13:04:21 i got the point 13:04:56 no 13:04:59 he was part of the show 13:05:02 forgot a t-shoirt 13:05:03 shirt * 13:05:13 and we went back to the changing rooms, or that was the idea 13:05:21 security guard told (8 year old!) brother to go downstairs alone 13:05:25 and that noone could accompany him 13:05:31 of course he immediately went the wrong way 13:05:41 and was gone for 30 minutes 13:05:58 and then the security guard came up with some bullshit argument about not allowing anyone else down there, not even a parent 13:06:02 because he had "300 artists down there": 13:06:11 nice try, but this show was the only show in the entire theater that day 13:06:15 and most of the kids had already left 13:06:29 read: asshole inventing excuses to justify his "I don't write the rules" behaviour 13:08:27 pft 13:08:34 must've been frustrating for your bro 13:08:35 :< 13:08:40 more frustrating for us 13:08:43 tbh 13:08:45 *** vanarp (vanarp@890837B6.725F2A04.61FF222A.IP) has joined #crytocc 13:09:00 I just find it unacceptable that they don't let an adult accompany an 8 year old 13:09:12 because of a made-up excuse and a retarded interpretation of a rule 13:09:19 that may or may not be an actual rule 13:09:19 especially when the said adult is the brother of the performer 13:09:20 like 13:09:21 :ol 13:09:26 or like, his parents? 13:09:27 :| 13:09:35 (was there with parents) 13:09:50 ohai vanarp, welcome to #crytocc, please be sure to read the topic and be aware that this channel is publicly logged 13:09:51 :P 13:10:06 but yeah, iceTwy, I've actually had a tour there in the past 13:10:09 behind the scenes 13:10:14 _while_ there were artists down there 13:10:22 if it wasn't a problem then, then why is it a problem now? 13:10:34 especially seeing as said artists _weren't_ present this time? 13:10:38 thanks joepie :) 13:11:21 joepie91 is there a way to cloak ip on such non-freenode irc servers? 13:11:37 vanarp: if it's refering to cryto, your IP/host is partially masked by default 13:11:48 - Hostmask: vanarp!vanarp@890837B6.725F2A04.61FF222A.IP * 13:12:01 most unrealircd networks do this by default 13:12:09 other networks/IRCds may do things differently 13:12:10 thats cool 13:12:33 (it's hashed using cloak keys iirc, so unless you have the cloak keys you won't be able to figure out the IP) 13:12:47 (and the cloak keys are in ircd config) 13:13:22 anyway, I think I'll go out 13:13:24 and make some more pictures 13:13:29 it appears the sun has started shining 13:13:29 :) 13:13:43 and it should be dry for the rest of the day 13:15:29 urgh 13:15:33 I forgot where I put my spare batteries 13:17:43 omfg, I'm dying hahaha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG1qooBzE2w 13:18:01 .bitcoin 13:18:02 1 BTC = $107.40, 1 BTC = €81.20 13:18:20 *** snowy_ is now known as snowden 13:23:47 hello snowden 13:23:49 we were looking for you 13:25:40 I am in Russia now. 13:26:59 How's Soviet Russia 13:27:00 ? 13:27:18 more open :D 13:28:10 http://news.sky.com/story/1107174/whistleblower-edward-snowden-lands-in-moscow 13:28:30 *** HiveResearch has quit (User quit: ) 13:30:38 snowden must feel so weird at the moment 13:30:41 all this attention 13:30:45 he didn't WANT this 13:30:47 he clearly said it 13:30:53 life changer for sure 13:42:41 *** HiveResearch (HiveResear@developers.developers.developers) has joined #crytocc 14:00:52 Heh, after leaking such things I'd think that it's either this or black bag 14:00:56 *** snowden has quit (Ping timeout) 14:01:23 Now he'll be branded a russian spy as well 14:01:39 at least he'll be chilling in Venezuela 14:01:46 now NSA is going to be in Venezuela for sure 14:02:55 *** snowden (snowy@5DCFB179.164598E0.B7613ADF.IP) has joined #crytocc 14:05:19 I wonder why do smart people go working for the NSA 14:05:36 $ 14:05:40 ^ 14:05:48 smart people, but nonetheless attracted by monies 14:05:52 It's not like all this stuff was secret, three-letter agencies violate such things all the time 14:06:07 Smart = can get money anywhere 14:06:47 And if money is the motivation, snowden really is a spy, selling data 14:12:27 I wonder if it's a mistake one just can't get out of 14:13:45 Like, you don't have any work xp (as nsa won't allow to discuss what you did there) and nsa presses the fact that you can't work in X, Y and Z afterwards (as it's likely you'll be leaking data w/o noticing or exposed to such leak-risk) 14:14:21 So you either stick with them or other gov job or go become a plumber 14:15:36 maybe they believed they were serving their country 14:17:24 Hmm, indeed, somehow it didn't come to my mind, but there really are pro-authoritarian (at least at some point in life) people out there 14:42:14 MK_FG: 14:42:15 hai 14:47:32 *** mama (anon@6A9B32C3.DA3E8586.A0534C64.IP) has joined #crytocc 14:52:35 *** minigoliath (minigoliat@70B9C8C2.3DF51EF2.78C94033.IP) has joined #crytocc 14:53:09 *** minigoliath has quit (User quit: Leaving) 14:56:37 hmph 14:56:56 Iceland govt apparently haven't received a formal request from Snowden 14:56:59 for asylum 15:01:52 *** vanarp has quit (Ping timeout) 15:03:24 uploading funfair videos to youtube atm 15:05:20 > Processing your video. 112969 minutes remaining. 15:05:22 okay, youtube 15:05:53 iceTwy : ding 15:06:29 https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLT324XogjOA9rpuZBrX37SC3xwDybH-BT 15:10:38 *** HiveResearch has quit (Ping timeout) 15:13:35 hem 15:13:40 busy 15:13:43 going out actually 15:13:44 bike! :D 15:14:04 see ya later! 15:15:26 *** YouKnowMe (YouKnowMe@cryto-CF075FC5.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net) has joined #crytocc 15:17:22 *** iceTwy has quit (Ping timeout) 15:30:37 *** vanarp (vanarp@890837B6.725F2A04.61FF222A.IP) has joined #crytocc 16:10:47 weird 16:17:34 ? 16:23:23 *** HiveResearch (HiveResear@developers.developers.developers) has joined #crytocc 16:24:07 *** Xeross is now known as Xeross|AFK 16:27:17 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2BssnWcUlQ&list=PLT324XogjOA9rpuZBrX37SC3xwDybH-BT&index=15 (start playing at 1:25 or so) 16:29:14 *** AnonyOps (anonyops@cryto-5167D786.woh.res.rr.com) has joined #crytocc 16:34:33 ^C rofl 16:39:45 *** Xeross|AFK has quit (Ping timeout) 16:40:09 ugh 16:40:20 I'm so tired of everyone freaking out about systems they don't understand 16:41:18 people are now freaking out about "shadow profiles" at facebook 16:41:36 because fb's exporter was sucking all the info they had on you out, not just what you had shared with them 16:41:46 (like, what they'd gotten from your friends phones and such) 16:42:12 and so this other information gets tagged onto you, and it's being labeled your "shadow profile" in the media 16:42:34 It's fucking stupid 16:42:42 there's a reason they named it the GRAPH API 16:42:50 BECAUSE IT'S A GRAPH 16:43:07 not cute little silos of what you explicitly give them 16:44:28 fucking graph theory, how does it work 16:44:29 :| 16:49:38 *** Xeross|AFK (Xeross@F31F8942.7789B1E3.813EF599.IP) has joined #crytocc 16:50:02 *** Xeross|AFK is now known as Xeross 16:51:58 whos freaking out and what freaks them out exactly? surveillence alleergies? 16:55:37 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 17:07:13 backeety back 17:07:19 joepie91: youtube videos muhbee 17:09:02 ? 17:09:37 *** Shinji (Shinji@Shinji.anon) has joined #crytocc 17:10:41 of the fair 17:10:54 unsure how to interpret 'muhbee'? 17:11:25 maybe 17:11:26 :p 17:13:24 mebbe usually 17:13:27 you and your weird 17:13:39 dog pls 17:13:41 lady-3jane; I'm still unsure how to interpret what you said as a whole lol 17:13:48 I mean 17:13:49 dawg pls 17:15:07 joepie91:) hmm? 17:15:23 re: facebook? 17:15:24 er 17:15:25 sorry 17:15:27 I meant iceTwy 17:15:31 * lady-3jane nods 17:17:37 wat 17:17:44 oh 17:17:49 you said you'd put up videos of the fair 17:17:51 funfair 17:17:53 on YouTube? 17:18:12 nvm found it 17:18:12 oh ffs, us invalidated snowden's passport as he flew to russia 17:18:17 LOL 17:18:17 really 17:18:22 yeah 17:18:27 bitches 17:18:27 >.< 17:18:30 iceTwy, I already linked you to it 17:18:32 er 17:18:37 linked everyone to it * 17:18:48 ugh 17:18:49 snowden might as well go roommate with assange 17:19:00 I wish he'd have stayed where he was 17:19:01 He's going to Ecuador 17:19:13 yeah, where we can assassinate him 17:19:29 It's fucking stupid 17:19:32 just like assange going there 17:19:37 or trying 17:19:41 so is ecuador like the New America now? 17:19:49 no 17:20:04 but it's very easy to kill someone and make it look like random drug trafficker violence 17:20:05 my gpa says south africa might be safe from USAGOV 17:20:37 *** Shinji has quit (Ping timeout) 17:20:37 *** Shinji_ (Shinji@87BA920A.389DB0A0.6152E7E4.IP) has joined #crytocc 17:20:42 snowden was in a good place 17:20:45 didnt nazis run away to south america? hide in rain forests 17:20:47 china? 17:21:01 yeah who the fuck wants to live in a rain forest 17:21:09 ironically, that's my retirement plan 17:21:09 better than gitmo 17:21:10 lol 17:21:21 not really 17:21:49 He won't be put in gitmo anyway, he's gonna be tried in a civilian court for treason or whatever 17:22:03 as he should be 17:22:16 fuck military courts 17:22:42 gitmo is 5 letters, yours was like 500 17:22:55 txt efficiency* 17:24:23 what? 17:25:56 *** vanarp has parted #crytocc (None) 17:57:53 *** crytocc-c has quit (Ping timeout) 18:04:22 *** monod (none@cryto-A27BDC75.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #crytocc 18:04:30 guysss!!!! 18:04:30 https://www.fsf.org/ 18:04:31 two petitions 18:04:38 DRM into html5 o_O 18:04:53 joepie91:) what modifications did purecss make to normalize? 18:04:56 yes 18:05:08 chrome has implemented it behind flags already 18:06:04 agh what are the technical details 18:06:11 it's all inflammatory language and no details 18:06:20 fuckin hate fsf 18:09:16 *** crytocc-c (crytocc-c@cryto-90CAF39.tor.primus.ca) has joined #crytocc 18:09:38 lady-3jane: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/tip/encrypted-media/encrypted-media.html 18:09:42 its like SOPA for HTML? 18:09:54 aaah here we go 18:10:09 oh 18:10:17 so it's not even implementation details 18:10:26 it's just standardizing drm api 18:11:04 This specification does not define a content protection or Digital Rights Management system. Rather, it defines a common API that may be used to discover, select and interact with such systems as well as with simpler content encryption systems. Implementation of Digital Rights Management is not required for compliance with this specification: only the simple clear key system is required to be implemented as a common baseline. 18:11:43 so in laymens terms that would mean... 18:11:43 joepie91:) what modifications did purecss make to normalize? 18:11:44 I am unsure 18:11:58 re the HTML5 DRM 18:12:00 it's complete bullshit 18:12:07 it doesn't provide any cross-platform compatibility 18:12:25 it just opens the door to more DRM without providing _anything_ positive for end users 18:12:28 oh is it like windows specific? 18:12:35 mm 18:12:49 I always figured we'd have a drm-interaction-api, but if it's gonna be so naive 18:14:16 lady-3jane 18:14:22 it's not windows specific 18:14:32 the problem is that 'modules' can be used for DRM 18:14:38 this can (should?) be native code 18:14:45 there's no guarantee that a DRM module will run on any given platform 18:15:06 ahh 18:15:16 yeah I see what you mean 18:15:25 if it weren't native code it wouldn't be performant 18:15:26 the practical result is that it's only a justification of DRM 18:15:34 "see? it's implemented in HTML5 so it's okay" 18:15:42 that kind of reasoning 18:16:08 I'd rather it be implemented in a really intelligent way 18:16:21 sorta "If we're gonna do it, best not half-ass it" 18:16:50 Like my mother always said, "Do it right or don't do it at all" 18:17:46 Hahah, good luck doing that with DRM ;) 18:17:48 do or do not, there is no try 18:17:49 :> 18:18:03 Like, show content but don't show it 18:18:34 yeah it's kinda the antithesis of what we have 18:18:41 problem is that DRM can't be done right 18:18:49 why not? because it doesn't fulfill its original purpose 18:18:49 it'd take universal hardare and software implementation 18:18:57 "Like, show content but don't show it" xD I missed you guys, lady, joepie and MK 18:19:06 you can try to make it as unobtrusive as you possibly could, but that doesn't magically make it work 18:19:08 lmao how was your tests monod 18:19:25 insanely wrong, that's why I disappeared 18:19:33 well joepie91 the problem is you end up denying users viewing of your shit based on platform 18:19:39 just like netflix does 18:20:04 "hiii" 18:20:06 I went crazy and I've spent the entire week figuring out ArmA 2.. ended up with disinstalling it today 18:20:08 "DRM be bad" 18:20:13 NO MONOD 18:20:13 *** Shinji_ has quit (Ping timeout) 18:20:17 I could've taught you! 18:20:24 Reinstall it. 18:20:26 my friend is a badass in arma 18:20:27 haha 18:20:31 hahah 18:20:46 I also got transformed into a bird o_O 18:20:57 O.o 18:21:01 lady-3jane, Your metaphorical "friend"? 18:21:02 that's the anti cheat system 18:21:13 yay :D 18:21:14 lady-3jane, Just admin you're arma2 junkie! 18:21:35 (if that's a thing) 18:22:14 MK_FG:) no? actual friend. I can't play arma, I have only linux 18:22:37 well joepie91 the problem is you end up denying users viewing of your shit based on platform 18:22:44 that is only one of the problems with DRM 18:23:08 *afk as usual* 18:24:13 also hai monod 18:24:15 "{ 18:24:16 :P * 18:25:53 *** Shinji (Shinji@Shinji.anon) has joined #crytocc 18:30:57 joepie91 I need someone to rant to 18:31:18 y u no rant at me? 18:31:23 crytocc-c: ^ 18:31:35 lol 18:31:40 because its about an asshole father 18:38:43 *** Shinji has quit (Ping timeout) 18:40:04 *** Shinji (Shinji@Shinji.anon) has joined #crytocc 18:40:28 tecnical question: why do we need to restart the entire machine to switch from an OS to one another, going through all the BIOS again? Is BIOS supposed to be ran anytime you need to boot an operative system? 18:40:37 *afk and back in a sec* 18:40:41 *or min* 18:41:52 *operating system 18:42:19 And you can run different linux kernel via kexec without full reboot 18:43:45 is that what... the rebootless kernel upgrade did? 18:44:05 ksplice 18:44:45 No, that thing is even cooler, doesn't need kernel restart either 18:45:26 Just replaces bits of code right in the ram, if data structures didn't change 18:46:46 oh, ha 18:47:03 does it just freeze the kernel for a sec or something? 18:47:05 afk dinner 18:47:18 I bet it should somehow 18:47:36 *** Shinji has quit (Ping timeout) 18:48:18 *** Shinji (Shinji@Shinji.anon) has joined #crytocc 18:53:42 so 18:53:45 who wants to help translating CVM 18:53:48 :P 18:53:58 https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/cvm/ 19:03:32 added a bunch of languages 19:03:55 *** Shinji has quit (Ping timeout) 19:05:35 the new chrome error messages are annoying 19:05:42 OH 19:05:44 it has a more button 19:05:47 okay we're cool 19:06:05 cvm is connection refused 19:06:06 btw 19:06:10 ? 19:06:46 cvm.cryto.net 19:06:48 ffs not again 19:07:28 fixed 19:09:04 what is full logging? do you support remote logging? 19:10:45 and what vps containers does cvm support? 19:11:34 we use kvm through libvirt atm 19:13:56 *** HiveResearch has quit (Ping timeout) 19:21:07 openvz for now 19:21:10 kvm and xen later 19:21:15 also, 'full logging' as said where? 19:21:19 and 'remote logging' in what sense? 19:21:51 but, wait, joepie91 19:21:57 ecurity with attention to detail: PDO, SSH-based master/slave communication with full logging, slow password hashing, existing and proven algorithms, separated administrator and user APIs, openly visible code allowing for 19:22:01 didn't they want to implement this whole DRM thing via JS? 19:22:03 full logging 19:22:09 and remote logging is what orgs use 19:22:18 you have a log aggregator somewhere 19:22:27 iceTwy: even then it'd just be hooks 19:22:28 afiak 19:22:35 if it was full JS.. 19:22:37 NoScript 19:22:38 hahahaha 19:22:40 everybody pipes their logs over to it, so if your box gets popped you have separate logs to inspect 19:22:58 lady-3jane: full logging here means that every single SSH-based communication is logged 19:23:04 on the cvm user 19:23:06 to a file? 19:23:09 both interactive and non-interactive 19:23:09 * lady-3jane niggles 19:23:12 both input and output 19:23:17 currently to a file that is unreadable to the CVM user itself 19:23:23 and unwritable etc 19:23:25 kk 19:23:32 (hence needing root escalation exploit to even be able to touch them) 19:23:42 eventually I might implement remote logging 19:23:49 the thing is that I doubt very many hosts will actually use that 19:23:55 because it'd require a whole separate server 19:24:02 that's the idea 19:24:05 that is not your master, not a slave, and not a VPS on a slave 19:24:10 log storage and aggregation 19:24:12 most hosts would probably not be happy about having to do that 19:24:12 :P 19:24:27 especially because confidential data, competitor, blah blah blah 19:24:30 not happy, but they're not business people either 19:24:31 i need to rant lol 19:24:45 if you get breached that log box will be your saving grace 19:25:02 crytocc-c: I currently don't have time to listen to a rant, sadly.. kinda busy with CVM 19:25:04 * lady-3jane shrugs 19:25:10 lol 19:25:10 joepie91:) go hack cvm! 19:25:11 :D 19:25:20 lady-3jane: it took 2 years for hosts to realize that a panel that uses exec to read out configuration files, is going to be insecure 19:25:35 can you understand my pessimism in them understanding the importance of an external log box? 19:25:36 really 19:25:40 :| 19:25:49 joepie91:) yes sorry I'm used to dealing with professionals 19:25:50 I mean 19:25:52 there will be _some_ hosts 19:25:54 that understand it 19:25:55 which vps providers aren't 19:25:57 but far too many that won't 19:26:01 lady-3jane: oh, some are 19:26:12 there's just quite a few.. less-than-professional individuals around 19:26:19 iceTwy 19:26:19 yes 19:26:23 mind helping to translate to french? 19:26:23 :p 19:26:37 https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/cvm/viewstrings/#fr_FR/main-strings/13739831 19:26:40 ^ 19:26:55 huh 19:26:57 what this 19:27:04 translate cvm to french 19:27:08 ^ :P 19:27:17 YES YES YES 19:27:18 :D 19:27:18 type translation, tab, type translation, tab, etc 19:27:25 tab = save and next 19:27:41 Can't type? 19:28:25 you probably have to reg first 19:28:25 :P 19:28:29 yes 19:28:29 xD 19:51:49 joepie91: when you say, VPS terminated 19:52:09 you mean that it's been shut down 19:52:11 ? 19:52:12 no 19:52:15 eh 19:52:16 basically 19:52:23 this is how it appears to the end user and admins: 19:52:29 VPS deleted (for example for abuse) 19:52:30 no but, like 19:52:33 unrecoverable 19:52:33 yes 19:52:34 that 19:52:37 is it this meaning? 19:52:37 how it actually works: 19:52:39 VPS is suspended 19:52:44 then after set amount of time 19:52:47 container is physically deleted 19:52:51 (to have an undo period) 19:52:52 yes 19:52:57 that's what terminated means :P 19:52:59 yeah 19:53:00 stopping is called stopping 19:53:07 the two terms come off close in French 19:53:12 language usage is pretty consistent throughout the panel 19:53:40 arrete versus... dead 19:53:41 lol 19:53:54 morir? 19:53:58 something 19:54:01 mort? 19:54:06 nope 19:54:08 *** anonnews256 (anonnews25@cryto-DA967CA5.user.veloxzone.com.br) has joined #crytocc 19:54:13 terminated would be.. 19:54:14 mort == dead right? 19:54:14 résilié 19:54:15 mort is conjugated 19:54:16 yes 19:54:22 arret = stopped 19:54:26 ? 19:54:28 yes 19:54:30 arrete yeah 19:54:34 arrêté actually 19:54:35 it;s incredible, I recognize some french 19:54:35 hah 19:54:47 l'arrte du bus or whatever, bus stop 19:54:55 yes but I cannot type those accents easily :D 19:55:19 I can't remember those accents easily 19:55:20 oh, hum 19:55:31 I know them, they're just so slow to type 19:58:14 *** anonnews256 has quit (Ping timeout) 20:02:08 hard labor joepie91 20:02:09 hard labor 20:02:22 :P 20:05:58 WOW and what a explosion! Do you go the formal or the unformal way? 20:06:23 imma ask cause i dont know? 20:07:30 Your = Your, but formal != unformal 20:08:07 Who's translating it to German joepie91? 20:09:35 * screapy <- 20:10:37 ach ya' 20:10:49 screapy: I've been taking German lessons for 5-6 years at school 20:11:01 4 years with a shitty teacher, 2 with an actual German teacher 20:11:07 Result: I can't speak a word of German 20:11:08 LOL 20:11:09 yea im teaching russian 20:11:13 teach me 20:11:20 so I can talk to my bro Poutine 20:11:58 lol 20:12:16 I know one expression 20:12:18 Blyat suka 20:12:21 :D 20:12:31 im teaching german to :P 20:12:37 *o 20:12:43 I'd like to speak German :p 20:12:49 Come on 20:12:56 dont blame urself 20:13:14 well I know a bit of German, true 20:13:18 but my grammar's absolutely horrible 20:13:25 my teacher said I had some vocabulary 20:13:30 but my grammar is ugh 20:14:09 well, joepie91 how u wannit, yours or yours 20:16:49 first lesson iceTwy 20:17:42 Deine = informal, Ihre = formal 20:19:06 doo != zee 20:19:17 I do know that deine is informal 20:19:19 and ihre is formal 20:19:24 I need grammar lessons 20:19:25 ^^ 20:20:22 ahh fuckit, i chuzz formal 20:20:57 yeah I've gone for formal as well 20:26:09 taking a little break from translating cc joepie91 20:40:45 ok guys, I'm back! but.. I will only read what I missed so far and then go to sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeep...... 20:41:56 monod 20:41:59 I'll teach you ArmA2 20:42:03 Reinstall it nubcake 20:51:48 .bitcoin 20:51:49 1 BTC = $106.80, 1 BTC = €80.80 20:52:14 cheap 20:53:57 how the hell are bitcoinz still so expensive?? 20:54:04 I dunno 20:54:05 incredible 20:54:36 iceTwy: sadly I've already uninstalled the game's versions and deleted all the setups from the hdd :/ I was preparing to another studying rush 20:55:04 and since I did not make it to work, I was more then sure to erase it.. 20:55:10 :/ 20:55:19 but I may reinstall it in some "near" future :D 20:56:24 *** lady-3jane has quit (Ping timeout) 20:57:16 hey loggy! How are you? Always busy uh? :D 20:58:10 loggy, pointer? 20:58:10 http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2013-06-23#T20-58-10 21:01:31 *** iceTwy has quit (Ping timeout) 21:01:33 iceTwy, did you play ArmA2 recently? 21:01:37 lol 21:01:39 so close 21:01:51 "he didn't read" 21:01:55 (it's a meme) 21:10:06 *** lady-3jane (lady3jane@lady-3jane.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 21:11:31 back 21:11:52 dickles! 21:13:02 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_%28programmer_subculture%29 21:15:05 should just be a paste of catb 21:17:14 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 21:21:35 *** Ashiarai (Yashiki@cryto-A55C5792.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 21:21:35 *busts into the room* 21:22:04 YOU! Channel Owner! WAKE UP! >Wash me i say! 21:22:34 Do you not hear me?! I SAID >WASH!!!! 21:23:04 I DEMAND THAT YOU >WASH ME PUNY HUMANS, FOR I WILL NOT LEAVE HERE SULLIED! 21:23:17 hello satan 21:23:34 You dare belittle the great foot?! You shall pay for this insolence... Now >wash me! 21:24:05 Sir Rossom will hear of this treachery, >wash before you perish! 21:24:25 what? 21:24:35 Mark my words, I will spawn forth a plague demons if i do not recieve a >wash! 21:25:05 >WASSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 21:25:17 hello Ashiarai 21:25:31 Welcome to Cryto-CC. This channel is publicly logged. 21:25:36 BAH! YOU SOULLESS CREATURES LACK SPINE! YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE LAST OF ME, I WILL RETURN IF YOU DO NOT >WASH ME NOW!! 21:25:44 Add [off] if you want your message not to be logged. 21:25:51 joepie91 is the server admin. 21:26:06 Your lack of humor does not surprise me, my logic has been wasted on you mortals! I AM THE GREAT FOOT, ASHIARAI YASHIKI! >WASH BEFORE YOURE SQUISHED BY MY GREATNESS! 21:26:15 proof or lie 21:26:17 *** mama has quit (Client exited) 21:26:35 http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/1g1eto/til_japanese_folklore_contains_a_creature_known/ 21:26:35 *** Ashiarai has parted #crytocc (Lulz brought to you by the <3) 21:26:36 lol, random dude comes in and tells us tales about his greatness 21:26:37 :3 21:26:47 reddit is an invalid argument 21:26:48 next? 21:27:26 reddit link explained 21:27:37 I know 21:27:39 trolling redditor, I'd be honored if it wasn't such a cesspool 21:27:39 I looked at it 21:32:26 openSuSE is 6GB, are there any 700mb CD versions i can use for instasllation? 21:34:41 YouKnowMe, http://software.opensuse.org/123/it 21:34:45 I read 4.7GB DVD 21:35:19 sorry for the localized URL, it was automatically forged 21:35:22 "forged" 21:35:26 (dunno if correct) 21:35:49 YouKnowMe: don't you want to try a lighter distro? 21:37:42 I'm curious: what are you thinking of, ice? 21:37:53 frankly? 21:37:59 Triskel 21:39:27 cc monod 21:39:57 checking it out 21:40:27 100% FOSS distro 21:40:52 Trisquel* I think 21:40:52 joepie91 21:40:56 FOSS? 21:41:03 who thinks whmcs will update their software 21:41:05 free, open-source, o..? 21:41:12 as I just exposed a huge vulernability 21:41:16 effecting everyone and everything 21:41:18 *** ShadowDemon (alexgurrol@cryto-507D6D5.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 21:41:20 using WHMCS 21:41:37 consider private messages or [off] crytocc-c :) 21:41:38 Not properly santizied variables on everything... 21:41:50 monod ? 21:42:33 since this channel is publicly logged 21:42:42 haha 21:42:59 idc 21:43:00 lol 21:43:15 nevermind, just paranohic 21:43:22 paranoic, par.... whatever 21:44:37 lol 21:44:40 yes 21:44:42 paranoic 21:44:50 but, probably paranoid is what you mean 21:45:05 crytocc-c:) did you report it? 21:45:12 Yes 21:45:14 I did. 21:45:29 however I was in total shock they don't know how to code... 21:46:09 most people don't 21:46:10 function {snipped}($arr) { 21:46:11 get over it 21:46:11 global $whmcs; 21:46:11 return $whmcs->sanitize_input_vars( $arr ); 21:46:11 } 21:46:11 ..... 21:46:20 $whmcs = new WHMCS_Init(); 21:46:20 $whmcs = $whmcs->init(); 21:46:36 They fail to understand you don't need to global $whmcs; when its created the instanse in the file already... 21:47:51 * lady-3jane shrugs 21:47:57 my shit will get updated the day they do it 21:47:58 :> 21:48:16 lol 21:48:26 if they don't do it, then they're vulnerable and I'll release a POC 21:48:36 I've no problems with that 21:50:16 *** mama (anon@cryto-522833C9.ip-142-4-210.net) has joined #crytocc 21:50:35 lady-3jane: do you know 21:50:37 ♪ NP @ iceTwy ♪ - Marty Friedman - Evil Thrill - Dragon's Kiss (1988) // 952kbps 21:51:18 joepie91 21:51:22 no 21:51:24 so thats why you wanted the module decrypted... 21:51:54 crytocc-c: ? 21:52:05 also http://localhost.re/p/solusvm-whmcs-module-316-vulnerability 21:52:06 joepie91: solusvm module 21:52:09 ^ 21:52:18 crytocc-c: eh, you know I'm not localhost.re right? 21:52:22 ik 21:52:27 and as far as I know that was unrelated 21:52:33 but I just have to assume thats a reason why you wanted it decoded. 21:52:39 to my knowledge it isn't :P 21:52:42 no way for me to be certain ofc 21:52:45 but I doubt it is 21:52:50 lol 21:52:52 also, things like this are perhaps better suited for [off] 21:52:56 seeing as it was a private message to start with 21:52:57 meh 21:53:01 i suppose 21:53:09 yeah nice opsec 21:53:13 outing people 21:53:17 Well, 21:53:24 no, shut the fuck up 21:53:27 take it to pm 21:53:37 I bet you'll see tomorrow "ChicagoVPS compermised... AGAIN" 21:56:49 yay 100% 21:57:59 sure needs to be reviewed ;) 21:58:16 hell a bunch of same stuff to type 21:59:02 * screapy < is 1. hahaha 21:59:31 mission complete 22:01:24 oh crap, my irc didnt beep. yes iceTwy I need a opensuse distro under 700MB to fit onto a CDR 22:01:41 y openSuSE tho? :/ 22:02:10 yast ;( saying 22:02:46 someone said OpenSuSE was easiest 22:03:03 I could argue on that point 22:03:09 easiest for whom 22:03:12 my grandfather wants to check email on his old PC, HD=40G 22:03:26 then he surely doesn't want to use openSuSE lol 22:03:34 me too, suse is novell and novell is not favor 22:03:37 TCP/IP is corrupted on WinXP sp2 22:03:51 YouKnowMe: is checking his mail/browsing the internet all he needs to do? 22:03:56 whats lightest and easiest? 22:03:59 debian 22:04:00 yes 22:04:00 stable 22:04:09 thats all, maybe youtube, etc. no gaming, no photoshopping 22:04:20 yeah, debian stable 22:04:25 he only knows win XP and doesnt want to learn anything new 22:04:32 it's easy as hell to use 22:04:40 so it has to be easiest for a winxp user 22:04:42 ok 22:04:44 right 22:04:45 look 22:04:48 erm 22:04:49 and under 700M? 22:04:53 probably yeah 22:05:12 x86_64? 22:05:15 i was steered away from Tiny7 22:05:18 doubtful 22:05:21 its a very old PC 22:05:33 oh, yeah debian is a decent choice too 22:05:35 dell i think, 1990s/2000s 22:05:37 and they stayed on gnome2 22:05:45 so it'll be arranged just like windows 22:05:53 works for me 22:05:56 googling now 22:06:03 for him it'll be different colors 22:06:04 lol 22:06:11 Yup 22:06:13 650Mb 22:06:17 YouKnowMe: http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#stable 22:06:22 CD version 22:06:30 tyvm good sir 22:06:30 And then install XFCE 22:06:37 It will run like a /charm/ on an old PC 22:06:38 I swear 22:06:42 np! 22:06:47 transmission for torrents, VLC for movies? 22:06:55 correct 22:06:58 chrome for everything else 22:07:02 yep 22:07:03 chromIUM 22:07:06 k 22:07:11 Chromium. 22:07:13 not Chrome. 22:07:31 ill get wine and SteamForLinux too just in case 22:07:32 I'd like to have a supercomputer. 22:07:39 so that I could build Chromium in 1 sec 22:07:47 I can't actually agree with chromium vs chrome... chromium doesn't ship pepper flash 22:07:53 yes it does? 22:07:55 I mean 22:07:58 it didn't when I used it 22:08:00 http://localhost.re/p/solusvm-whmcs-module-316-vulnerability 22:08:02 fun fun fun 22:08:03 if you install it from Arch Linux's AUR, it does 22:08:12 hmm 22:08:20 joepie91: gibberish for someone who doesn't know PHP! 22:08:56 then he surely doesn't want to use openSuSE lol 22:08:57 wat 22:09:05 iceTwy: actually it's a vuln in the (C) code of libcurl 22:09:05 it seems 22:09:12 which is interesting 22:09:21 ah 22:10:39 worst part; it's curl 7.31.0 22:10:43 the newest version 22:10:44 ouch 22:10:50 yay 22:10:56 * lady-3jane smells an update coming 22:10:56 *** speakeasy has quit (Connection reset by peer) 22:11:18 actually joepie91 and lady-3jane the libcurl team know about it 22:11:18 i want netinst of i386 right? 22:11:18 http://curl.haxx.se/docs/adv_20130622.html 22:11:28 YouKnowMe: no, the CD installation of i386 22:11:40 http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.1.0/i386/iso-cd/ 22:11:43 cd will be faster 22:12:03 heh, with XFCE packed: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.1.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-7.1.0-i386-xfce-CD-1.iso 22:12:05 ok 22:12:08 just first disc? 22:12:08 YouKnowMe: ^ 22:12:09 debian-7.1.0-i386-CD-1.iso 2013-06-16 00:28 648M 22:12:15 http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.1.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-7.1.0-i386-xfce-CD-1.iso > XFCE packed right away 22:12:26 I recommend the one with XFCE already packed. 22:12:26 orly? O.O 22:12:30 idk what that is but i want it! 22:12:31 debian is cool :p 22:12:37 yeah 22:12:38 XFCE is a desktop environment 22:12:39 <3 debian 22:12:42 my first love in linux 22:12:46 downloading now :) 22:12:47 iceTwy 22:12:48 haha same lady-3jane 22:12:50 that curl adisory 22:12:53 advisory * 22:12:54 is not the same thing 22:12:57 is it not? 22:12:58 *** Cryto036 (Cryto036@8EA505F1.AF5C2B65.D48B3C20.IP) has joined #crytocc 22:12:59 3hours left? wtf kind of connection does gpa have? smh 22:13:00 they talk about boundaries 22:13:17 lol keyword analysis fail 22:13:30 ahhh 22:13:32 dude fuck yeah 22:13:36 rsync --partial 22:13:39 welp.. guess i can scan for old files to backup off old PC while i wait 22:14:40 wtf 22:14:46 this is all you can do with this vuln: http://docs.solusvm.com/v2/Default.htm#Developer/Admin-Api/Admin-Api.htm 22:15:09 iceTwy: all you can do? 22:15:12 that's basically everything... 22:15:15 yes 22:15:16 and yes, they talk about boundaries 22:15:17 that's what I meant 22:15:18 lol 22:15:19 but it's a different vuln 22:15:20 ah 22:15:22 the sarcasm was lost on me 22:15:23 :P 22:15:31 the issue here is insufficient randomness 22:15:32 text sarcasm 22:15:44 localhost.re is a cool folk 22:16:53 *** ShadowDemon has quit (Ping timeout) 22:18:50 *** mama has quit (Client exited) 22:19:19 *** Cryto036 has quit (Ping timeout) 22:19:30 *** MaryJane (MJ@MaryJane.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 22:20:22 yay, library updates 22:26:07 .bitcoin 22:26:08 1 BTC = $106.73, 1 BTC = €80.80 22:26:17 81/0.3 22:26:35 something like 27.5? 22:27:04 *0.3 22:27:07 and 24€ 22:29:27 sure 22:29:29 why not 22:29:30 lol 22:33:08 hey miners, i have a question to bitcoin 22:33:40 is that real comfortable to mine at those prices? 22:34:56 when i get a small gh miner, like the one from butterflylabs for 250$, wich produces $13.89 / day is that true?? 22:35:13 is my calculation wrong? 22:36:21 mining with a standard graka is not effordable, 0,01 per day is more than hazzard to my room 22:36:46 *mor waste of time, lack of knowing 22:37:06 how di you guys mine? 22:38:01 indoor? outdoor? kitchen? 22:38:19 *confused by the hype 22:38:41 has anyone bought bitcoins from bitcoin.de? 22:38:46 *** mama (anon@cryto-FAA14C7F.noisetor.net) has joined #crytocc 22:41:51 the more get into, the less comes out 22:42:12 screapy: no 22:42:19 I've been reading about this 22:42:23 because I do mine a bit 22:42:26 for the fun of it 22:42:38 all those ASIC manufacturers do NOT SHIP right away 22:42:48 you have a pre-order for /at least/ 3 months 22:42:51 til they ship it 22:43:03 and then after those 3 months, the market will have adapted itself to ASIC miners 22:43:10 and then yours will be completely inefficient 22:43:18 so, right now, yes it would be worth it to HAVE one 22:43:32 but not ORDER one so that it arrives later, when the market will have adapted itself 22:45:08 okay, thx. real true 4 fun? so u have a optimistic view for capitalism? 22:45:20 I dislike capitalism 22:45:22 ^^ 22:45:23 thats shit all over 22:45:29 but yeah I do it for fun 22:45:30 i know 22:45:36 even 22:45:38 but 22:45:42 i like the idea 22:45:44 I scripted a little calculator 22:45:56 that computes whether mining BTC is profitable for you 22:46:08 based on the energy consumption of your PC 22:46:19 does it take power price per kwh as an argument? 22:46:27 yes 22:46:41 why? 22:46:42 cause I pay alot e.e 22:46:44 hehe 22:46:47 how much do you pay 22:46:54 and what's your PSU power? 22:47:00 I mean, we don't pay a lot, but that's because we are very efficient 22:47:09 psu? goes to 710 22:47:19 current actual usage tops at around 110w 22:47:34 I got an 80+gold certified psu, too 22:47:40 gold? 22:47:43 hmmm 22:47:50 I have a Corsair TX650 v2 22:47:50 which works out to around 95% efficient or so at this power level 22:48:13 I paid a pretty penny for it, but the power saved vs extra cost at purchase time is significant 22:48:51 yup.. 22:49:18 our low tier is 13c/kwh, medium tier is like 17c, high tier is 33c 22:49:26 but high tier is at only 450kwh in a month 22:49:39 very very expensive power 22:50:30 my friend only hits his medium tier at 1000kwh/mo 22:50:58 but it's fine, it just means everything I buy is for energy efficiency 22:52:06 *** ShadowDemon (alexgurrol@cryto-507D6D5.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 22:52:08 wtf 22:52:22 we stand on your low tier tho 22:52:31 oh wait 22:52:33 you're in the US 22:52:56 yes? 22:53:03 hold onnnn 22:53:05 stand? 22:53:16 we're using 0.380kwh right now 22:53:18 okay 22:53:20 everybody's pc on 22:53:27 peak hours for us are your mid tier 22:53:40 we don't do that 22:53:48 we can choose to, but it doesn't benefit us 22:53:59 "peak hours" 22:54:10 there's a bunch of plans to pick, we stick with monthly flat usage tiers 22:54:37 I am NOT turning my shit off during the day. fuck that shit. I will just buy more efficient components. 22:55:44 lol 22:58:56 hmm tf2 or skyrim 22:59:05 wish ro2 was built for linux 22:59:11 wine? 22:59:18 for? 22:59:22 ro2 22:59:27 why would I do that 22:59:31 why not 22:59:35 unreal runs without modification on linux 22:59:40 it just needs to be compiled for it 22:59:55 wish ro2 was built for linux 22:59:58 ro1 was automatically added for linux on launch of steam for linux 23:00:03 because the build already existed 23:00:43 does debian need AV like win? 23:00:49 no 23:01:02 win doesn't need av either 23:01:20 keep your shit up to date and quit clickin' shit 23:01:29 wat 23:01:30 no 23:01:31 bad advice 23:01:34 lol 23:01:39 it's worked for years 23:01:47 lady-3jane: it has not worked for years 23:02:10 personally known at least several people that got infected by a drive-by on an ad network 23:02:12 hell 23:02:12 joepie91:) I have been doing it successfully since xpsp3 23:02:19 remember that cisco paper? 23:02:31 nope 23:02:33 "malware is more likely to be found on everyday sites, than on porn sites or 'shady' sites" 23:02:40 okay 23:02:42 because ad networks and driveby's and whatnot 23:02:44 and yet... 23:02:58 "watch where you click" will not save you when there is the 23661346th vulnerability in some MS thing 23:03:04 that gets exploited without you ever knowing 23:03:14 via some pwnt blog or whatever 23:03:17 if the codes on your computer, you've already lost 23:03:27 an AV catches most of this crap 23:03:47 an a/v represents a significant performance decrease too 23:03:55 stats please 23:04:11 I can feel the difference is good enough for me 23:04:14 I have not seen a noticeable slowdown or resource usage peak occur with Avast on my hardware 23:04:28 computer takes longer to boot and takes longer to launch applications 23:04:34 avast still the fan fav freebie? 23:04:58 I used mse occaisionally, just to doublecheck I hadn't caught anything 23:05:04 once every 8 months or so 23:05:34 avast work for debian? 23:05:38 YouKnowMe: considering it's the only free one that A. doesn't rm vital features to make you buy the paid version B. doesn't delete its own definitions or even system libraries as being a 'virus' (yes AVG, looking at you) and C. doesn't bog down your machine 23:05:38 yes 23:05:40 and no 23:05:45 on debian you'll probably be fine 23:05:50 lady-3jane: MSE is rubbish 23:06:21 joepie91:) if you say so 23:07:06 oddly, lifehacker endorsed MSE 23:07:15 thats first time i had heard anyone speaking fondly of it 23:07:18 lifehacker is gawker 23:07:24 orly? 23:07:25 I would not take them seriously without a doublecheck 23:07:32 who would you take seriously? 23:07:35 they don't seem to have very strict editorial policies 23:07:41 well... pretty much everyone except for lifehacker lol 23:07:44 (in this area) 23:07:47 ouch 23:07:51 or everyone except gawker I should say 23:07:57 ars is fine, wired is fine, many of the smaller ones are fine 23:08:07 they aren't infallible, but have good editorial policies as a general rule of thumb 23:08:39 I liked mse because it Just Works(tm) and isn't norton, avg, or mcafee 23:08:56 I used to use avast, hated it 23:09:09 nice and fast, had horrible obnoxious defaults 23:09:11 hated what about it? 23:09:23 well screaming at me every time it updated was nice 23:09:40 and there were no "no" options 23:09:43 screaming like a banshee? 23:09:56 lady-3jane: it's in the settings 23:10:00 so if it detected a virus coming over the wire, it would shut the connection down and force me to agree with it 23:10:02 joepie91:) irrelevant 23:10:05 oh, that 23:10:06 yes 23:10:10 avast is stupid-user-resistant 23:10:12 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banshee‎ 23:10:24 yes I don't like that 23:10:33 I would rather not be given the choice than forced to agree 23:11:46 If you're the app writer and you think you know better, fucking do it and make the decision for me. But don't treat me like I'm an idiot and force me to agree with your plan of action. 23:12:39 there must be an industry term for this rule of thumb 23:12:40 fk 23:12:57 lady-3jane: you do realize that this is pretty much necessary to keep users from doing stupid shit? 23:13:20 make the decision for them, then 23:13:23 but don't patronize them 23:13:48 If there's no "no" option, do not give me the choice. 23:13:59 there is a very big difference, psychologically, between cutting it off + notifying, and making people agree to it 23:14:02 (and yes, this came about because I WAS downloading viruses. ON PURPOSE.) 23:14:08 yes 23:14:13 one patronizes, and one doesn't 23:14:20 I said psychologically 23:14:25 if you just notify, there's a large chance that the user will just disable AV 23:14:26 and try again 23:14:38 if you make them agree to it, then only the people that know what they're doing are likely to do so 23:14:43 one pops a notification up and says "we blocked X, kickass!" and the other forces you to agree that they already blocked X 23:15:02 I just... no. 23:15:09 Do not fucking patronize me. 23:15:11 read above 23:15:16 The Psychology of Coding 23:15:17 look, if it pisses you off, fine, don't use it 23:15:22 I will not use software that does so 23:15:24 but there is an actual purpose to this kind of thing 23:15:25 exactly 23:15:34 I will not use it, and I will not recommend it to anyone 23:16:16 If they change that, I'd happily do so. their a/v engine was top-shit when I used it 23:16:33 there should be some kind of universal NGO for the psychology of coding, similar to the IETF/ISOC 23:17:07 instead of everyone winging it without the support of accessable research 23:20:23 *** speakeasy (speakeasy@speakeasy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 23:20:24 debian@174/626m@44k/s~2h -.- 23:27:07 goooosh, definitely have to go 23:27:11 sleep well guys 23:27:14 see you! 23:27:18 *** monod has quit (User quit: ) 23:29:56 *** EmptyRedData (Empty@856A53CC.B454AB78.6B89ED8F.IP) has joined #crytocc 23:30:11 hai EmptyRedData 23:30:27 Hey there joepie, what's up? 23:30:45 I had a question 23:30:57 do you by any chance speak any languages natively that are not Dutch or English? 23:31:22 Nope. Learning a couple on and off, but nothing passable at all 23:31:28 alright 23:31:29 :P 23:31:47 looking for translators for CVM 23:32:05 joepie91: useful to have a frenchie at hand, isn't it 23:32:06 :D 23:32:34 ya 23:32:35 :D 23:34:31 you ought to teach me some Dutch expressions tho 23:34:32 :p 23:39:11 *** speakeasy has quit (Connection reset by peer) 23:41:48 http://letstalkbitcoin.com/post/53700133097/users-bitcoins-seized-by-dea 23:42:05 They're coming for your WoW gold next 23:42:35 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout)