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Not at all! 09:42:28 Cleverbot: Why don't you like it? 09:42:30 You have to be kidding me... 09:42:38 hahaha 09:42:50 Cleverbot likes Twilight, <3 09:42:50 Not so clever after all! 09:42:58 ka-why-ee 09:43:01 MK_FG: Aye, my point too 09:44:05 Cleverbot: Why don't you like it? 09:44:06 User: Bad acting, boring storyline, annoying characters. 09:44:06 Cleverbot: Can I ask you a question? 09:44:06 User: Yes. 09:44:06 Cleverbot: How long has Cat been jealous of me? 09:44:07 User: Who is Cat? 09:44:09 Cleverbot: I Don't Know. 09:44:17 Well, if this passes the Turing test... 09:44:41 We're in trouble? 09:44:58 No, this only hits the intelligence of some 12 year old dumb blonde kid 09:45:00 Then we'll be finally able to separate it from human! 09:45:23 (because almost all humans won't pass) 09:45:43 >tfw clever bot calls you a bot and then follows up with a cryptic question about the nature of knowledge -__-' 09:46:08 AHAHAAHAH 09:46:09 User: Do you know how to have the best sex? 09:46:09 Cleverbot: Have no regrets. 09:46:29 xD 09:46:41 It even has better sex than us 09:46:49 Sometimes truth can come out of someone's mouth, who is generically an idiot... 09:46:52 Art, What difference between linux distros from development perspective bothers you? 09:47:46 I don't like it when my whole distro is no longer supported 5 mins after using it, and the updates which break every part of the system. E.g. Ubuntu sucks. 09:48:32 Try any one with rolling updates 09:48:52 Doesn't ubuntu has such option these days? 09:49:05 well, I have to disagree a bit here... Ubuntu has LTS systems, the in-between are different. Debian is following a similar method; also Ubuntu Servr seems a pretty stable choice 09:49:08 I have no idea 09:49:08 Iirc they were talking about making it into a rolling-updates distro, too... 09:50:33 ROlling updates are a nightmare 09:50:41 I run a sid based Debian, and it bites 09:51:11 see, that's what I should do 09:51:39 well, depends on what you need... For hosting a stable distro is the perfect choice 09:51:41 Fairly static releases can obviously be considered a bad thing too ;) 09:51:52 why? 09:52:08 Because you want e.g. gcc-4.7 and your release will never have it 09:52:24 Or python-2.7 09:52:31 Or whatever, system-wide 09:52:40 So you go and hack around it endlessly 09:52:42 *** x (foobar@F41F7528.3BFC4759.D48B3C20.IP) has joined #crytocc 09:52:53 Basically building slackware islands inside stale distro 09:53:27 MK_FG: Not at all, sometimes such extensions are released, also, this again depends on what you wish to do 09:53:42 I also have seen projects like "ActivePerl" 09:53:46 and similar 09:53:59 For ubuntu and debian, releases mandate same .so versions 09:54:07 So you don't get and update for these, period 09:54:16 (until next release) 09:54:23 PPA's are also available :) 09:54:51 of course you need to progress with those with caution 09:55:14 Yah yah, that's the point 09:55:31 So you can see how it's not universally a good thing ;) 09:56:48 Depends 09:56:55 I had in general good experiences with PPA's 09:59:01 I liek cats. 09:59:22 I like pie 09:59:31 joepai? 09:59:37 DON'T SAY NOW, THAT YOU LIKE TRAINS 09:59:48 I like tea 10:00:04 ...right now 10:00:23 Art, Use some source-based distro \o/ 10:00:31 haha 10:00:41 That sure will hit your productivity bad 10:00:47 lold 10:01:02 it's fun for embedded 10:01:09 or specific hardware 10:01:19 but a waste of time, imho, for regular use 10:01:19 or some people 10:01:43 I feel sick. I ate too much cake. 10:03:39 MK_FG: No offense really, I just gave it a try, and if you are tied to time, it's hardly the choice. I used to work for a company, where I could use Linux too and my boss didn't appreciate, when i told him, that the install time of my lappy will take a few days 10:04:08 So I went with Xubuntu 10:04:16 (as I dislike Unity too) 10:04:34 Heheh, nah, I accept that there are people for whom they don't work 10:05:00 If Linux desktop, then it's Mate or XFCE for me 10:06:20 Good thing that there are many linuxes that you can pick one that works best for you ;) 10:07:05 *** ilikeapricot has quit (Ping timeout) 10:07:16 One of the reasons why I prefer it :) 10:07:28 holy SHIT. If you type l it also does ls 10:07:51 ever heard of 'alias'? :) 10:08:06 y-yeh >> 10:08:14 I think it's pre-defined 10:08:22 Or zsh might auto-correct that 10:08:28 hardly, bash does the same 10:09:37 I mean that it has that feature (though rarely enabled for commands, usually for paths), maybe ubuntu indeed has an alias 10:11:16 weird, it works in regular Debian sid too with bash 10:11:33 aaaah, there we go 10:11:34 alias l='ls -CF' 10:11:34 alias la='ls -A' 10:11:34 alias ll='ls -l' 10:11:34 alias ls='ls --color=auto' 10:13:01 I hope there isn't any for rm ;____; that could be bad 10:13:49 I see something alias start='rm -rf /' 10:13:56 :) 10:14:01 hahahaha 10:14:35 I hate redhat's alias rm='rm -i' 10:16:10 Also, there was one interesting lighting talk at ccc (iirc) about a simple wrapper for rm to not run the command w/o special key if there's path from a list of e.g. /usr /var /lib /etc ... 10:16:20 (to avoid that bumblebee bug) 10:18:07 I doubt that would solve anything, although I support a generic alias for "rm -rf /" to be disabled in default 10:19:13 Well, fail model in question is space in path, e.g. "/usr /local/mything" or "/usr${component}/mything" 10:19:25 Should certainly help in these cases 10:19:49 Don't think I've stumbed into one myself though 10:20:53 a regexp based alias entry is still an easier and less painful solution 10:23:00 *** why_slap_option (thespartan@cryto-A178A3C1.miat.fl.megapath.net) has joined #crytocc 10:26:37 *** why_slap_option has quit (Ping timeout) 10:28:19 Won't save you from https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee-Old-and-abbandoned/commit/a047be85247755cdbe0acce6f1dafc8beb84f2ac :P 10:29:19 (though to be fair, probably even slackware uses some sandbox these days) 10:32:02 *** mama (anon@cryto-84C88BCC.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 10:40:42 bumbledore 10:44:36 *** why_slap_option (thespartan@cryto-A178A3C1.miat.fl.megapath.net) has joined #crytocc 10:56:39 *** why_slap_option has quit (Ping timeout) 10:56:42 *** MaryJane (MJ@MaryJane.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 10:57:31 *** why_slap_option (thespartan@cryto-287E1730.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) has joined #crytocc 10:59:22 holy shit, indeed 10:59:23 rm -rf /usr /lib/nvidia-current/xorg/xorg 10:59:46 although I think such could be somehow regexp-ed 10:59:52 *** why_slap_option has quit (Connection reset by peer) 11:13:21 *** Asad has quit (Ping timeout) 11:14:06 *** Asad (Asad@Asad.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 11:43:52 *** x has quit (Input/output error) 11:45:46 *** why_slap_option (thespartan@cryto-287E1730.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) has joined #crytocc 11:48:57 *** why_slap_option has quit (Ping timeout) 11:49:48 *** xpl0ziv (xpl0ziv@cryto-739DBCC1.residential.rdsnet.ro) has joined #crytocc 11:50:18 *** xpl0ziv has quit (User quit: ) 11:50:32 *** why_slap_option (thespartan@cryto-287E1730.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) has joined #crytocc 11:56:19 *** why_slap_option has quit (Ping timeout) 11:58:44 *** why_slap_option (thespartan@cryto-287E1730.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) has joined #crytocc 12:06:55 *** why_slap_option has quit (Ping timeout) 12:08:51 *** why_slap_option (thespartan@cryto-A178A3C1.miat.fl.megapath.net) has joined #crytocc 12:21:58 *** why_slap_option has quit (Ping timeout) 12:22:42 *** why_slap_option (thespartan@cryto-287E1730.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) has joined #crytocc 12:23:53 *** Ravenloft has quit (Ping timeout) 12:27:14 *** why_slap_option has quit (Ping timeout) 12:29:21 *** why_slap_option (thespartan@cryto-A178A3C1.miat.fl.megapath.net) has joined #crytocc 12:32:37 *** why_slap_option has quit (Ping timeout) 13:29:19 *** ElectRo` has quit (Ping timeout) 13:30:12 *** ElectRo` (x@75D2BE42.54F88E0E.32FDE28D.IP) has joined #crytocc 14:21:15 *** MaryJane has quit (User quit: Fapping) 14:30:44 *** Art has quit (User quit: Lost terminal) 14:51:53 *** zxcvbnm (~crack7765@zxcvbnm.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 14:57:38 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 15:06:47 *** mama (anon@4E67C873.1F65062D.6C8646.IP) has joined #crytocc 17:32:38 *** Ari (Ari@Ari.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 17:52:39 *** Theonlyone12 (Theonlyone@CE30FE0A.F83D0CE6.7035584F.IP) has joined #crytocc 18:02:09 *** Theonlyone12 has quit (User quit: ) 18:13:57 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 18:16:00 *** mama (anon@cryto-84C88BCC.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 18:22:55 *** mama has quit (Client exited) 18:41:24 *** zxcvbnm has quit (User quit: Lost terminal) 18:44:21 *** maddux has quit (Input/output error) 18:44:23 *** maddux (maddux@1D2A240A.BF5FEC1A.5710B9B3.IP) has joined #crytocc 19:10:22 *** mama (anon@cryto-AEC3912F.ucar.edu) has joined #crytocc 19:30:10 *** x (foobar@BF9A7830.93D77D28.7035584F.IP) has joined #crytocc 20:18:04 *** x has quit (Input/output error) 20:25:25 *** e has parted #crytocc (None) 23:02:39 *** crates has quit (Input/output error) 23:05:03 *** T0R_till (T0R_till@cryto-8813EF5E.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 23:06:25 *** T0R_till has quit (User quit: Connection closed)