00:07:07 *** crytoweb485 (crytoweb48@cryto-613BD01A.client.mchsi.com) has joined #crytocc 00:07:46 joepie91: ping 00:12:23 *** crytoweb485 has quit (Ping timeout) 00:13:30 *** cayce (cayce@cayce.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 02:06:01 *** loggy (loggy@5C4B2CE4.B8E60B3B.FD9B6484.IP) has joined #crytocc 02:06:01 Topic for #crytocc is: Cryto Coding Collective | THIS IS A PUBLICALLY LOGGED CHANNEL. http://wire.cryto.net/logs | http://cryto.net/, http://forums.cryto.net/ | Rules: no Anonymous, no cracking, no drama | Now, with more dpk! | Cryto Research: http://research.cryto.net/ | RIP Aaron Swartz 02:06:01 Users on #crytocc: loggy botpie91 wh1t3r4bb1t AnonO_o x cayce joepie91 ElectRo` mama Ari GHOSTnew iceTwy Yolo ilikeapricot twitchyl1quid64 aHlTat oblastr Smoker mikaa Ishaq stanone norbert79 dpk Asad d0wn_blog raymii @SpaghettiCode connor truetravesty IR601 &MK_FG staticsafe 02:15:30 *** wh1t3r4bb1t has quit (Connection reset by peer) 02:21:08 NP: [Lady GaGa - Judas] [Born This Way] [1066kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane 02:22:15 .startgh 02:22:17 Now watching GitHub for users joepie91, iceTwy, FichteFoll, cam1337, codetalkdev, shiny. 02:23:56 oh, good 02:24:08 I forgot all my songplays are broadcast to the interbutts now 02:28:22 TIME FOR CUTE 02:28:25 NP: [Lights - Toes] [Siberia] [940kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane 02:29:51 lol iceTwy 4am is the perfect time to get mail working 02:29:56 it's the only time mail servers make any sense 02:30:04 fuck yeah 02:30:06 4:29AM 02:30:10 but I'll go and hit the bed 02:30:11 cuz 02:30:12 fuck it 02:30:19 I got my email server runnin' 02:30:24 if y'all want an account, tell me 02:30:33 free emails 02:31:23 blerp 02:31:23 good night 02:32:14 *** iceTwy has quit (Input/output error) 02:42:41 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 02:45:58 lelz 02:54:02 joepie91:) ultraping: Did you get your old xmpp account back? It's showing as 'up' 02:54:12 oh, sorry, yes 02:54:15 I should've said 02:54:19 yes, I regained access :P 03:03:07 It's cool, I'm just sensitive to situations surrounding such things :P 03:04:23 joepie91:) you here? 03:04:35 hey conor 03:04:46 norbet79 03:05:39 joepie91:) does that mean access to proper twitter? 03:15:24 *** x_ (foobar@cryto-4ABAF172.as5577.net) has joined #crytocc 03:16:12 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 03:16:31 *** joepie91 has quit (Ping timeout) 03:16:35 *** joepie91 (joepie91@cryto-3E6002EF.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 03:17:12 *** stanone has quit (Ping timeout) 03:17:30 *** x has quit (Ping timeout) 03:21:50 cayce: I've had access to my old twitter account for a while now 03:21:51 :P 03:29:04 >_> 03:30:50 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Lua dev works on ST3 and Add `lua` label.', '02Merge pull request #1836 from xpol/masterLua dev works on ST3 and Add `lua` label.' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/da80eb99ae...fd979b1c81) 03:33:53 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Add Better TypeScript to repo', '02Merge pull request #1837 from lavrton/patch-2Add Better TypeScript to repo' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/fd979b1c81...e2c3543eb9) 04:00:32 *** ElectRo` has quit (Ping timeout) 04:20:17 *** x_ has quit (Ping timeout) 05:11:42 *** x (foobar@cryto-4ABAF172.as5577.net) has joined #crytocc 05:18:31 *** Ari has quit (Connection reset by peer) 05:29:30 *** Ari (Ari@Ari.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 05:42:04 *** AnonO_o has quit (Input/output error) 05:47:36 *** x has quit (Input/output error) 05:48:51 *** ElectRo` (x@51BC5033.870C7BE1.49E80F3.IP) has joined #crytocc 06:25:16 cayce, there? 06:25:36 just had a philosophifart 06:25:52 (whoop, invented a new word) 06:26:30 anyway, perhaps the reason that people hunt for free stuff (in various ways) is not just that it's free ie. at no cost, but also that it gives them the idea that they're "cheating" the system 06:26:37 ie. getting something free that would otherwise not be free 06:27:11 that would explain why people take things for granted that have always been free, but really want new free stuff 06:28:17 *** x (foobar@cryto-4ABAF172.as5577.net) has joined #crytocc 06:29:54 *** x has quit (Input/output error) 06:30:49 *** x (foobar@8A2E482F.4403C8C0.E124FE5.IP) has joined #crytocc 07:33:09 *** wh1t3r4bb1t (antarctica@cryto-497FB66D.direcpc.com) has joined #crytocc 07:34:27 sup 07:38:01 anyone have a better way to do this... http://pastebin.com/YB7ZhgDN 07:50:28 *** YuKy (YuKy@YuKy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 07:50:48 wh1t3r4bb1t: what are you trying to do? 07:52:30 joepie91: I want to make sure the cookie is set before the script finishes execution. this will ensure the user sees the back end of the site and not have to refresh. 07:53:22 cookie changes are sent along with the HTTP response 07:53:23 It was working this way for a couple tries but now it seems to get stuck in the loop and not set the cookies. 07:53:44 and I still don't quite understand what you are trying to do 07:53:50 what is wrong with a session variable? 07:55:54 A session variable expires when the window closes. So the user would have to login again when the come back. the cookie allows them to stay logged in like on facebook. 07:56:32 *** YuKy has quit (User quit: Good bye) 07:56:44 wh1t3r4bb1t: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8311320/php-change-the-session-timeout 07:58:21 wh1t3r4bb1t: a PHP session is also represented by a cookie 07:58:44 (and can be represented in the URL without requiring cookies, but that's a terrible terrible idea) 08:00:51 I know the session stores a cookie. When the user selects keep me logged in it stores the cookies for 10 years and when they don't check that option it expires in an hour. 08:03:02 The issue is the content they get. The php executes faster than the cookie writes so they end up not seeing the back end and therfore it seems they arent logged in. I want the script to pause until the cookie can be read so that the content changes. 08:05:36 what? 08:05:37 wh1t3r4bb1t 08:05:43 I feel like you have a misunderstanding of how cookies work 08:06:41 wh1t3r4bb1t: just use a standard session with extended cookie duration, store the logged in state in a session variable, and you should be fine 08:06:52 because A. the session variable just acts as a session variable 08:07:00 and therefore in the rest of a PHP script you can read out the value you just set 08:07:39 B. the correct way to handle logins is different anyway; you set a session variable, then issue a HTTP redirect to the landing page (ie. backend overview in your case), and don't send any other content 08:11:10 I though that redirects have to be in the head of the document? 08:19:56 wh1t3r4bb1t: I said HTTP redirect 08:19:59 not metatag redirects 08:20:12 header("Location: /something"); 08:20:26 ie. HTTP 301 08:20:47 never use meta refresh tags 08:21:05 joepie91: It amazes me always seeing you how informed you are about many things regarding how the Internet works, and ask myself sometimes: do you have time for anything else in your life? :) 08:21:36 norbert79: I barely have enough time for the internet 08:21:37 :P 08:21:51 seriously though, nearly all of my daily activity is centered around the internet in some way 08:22:10 Lucky you... I wish my work would be also a bit more low level too 08:22:10 in particular the developer and activist regions of the internet 08:22:28 not sure I'd agree about the 'lucky' part 08:22:36 Trust me, you would... 08:26:16 norbert79: legal mess/drama, hardware seizure, not able to access half my stuff, being bothered by people daily about when X or Y is going to be done, constantly trying to get enough income to be able to pay the bills, health declining due to stress, relationship broken, constantly having to explain to people why I won't do X or Y (because morals), then being met with either ridicule, disbelief, or incredulity 08:26:26 I really would not class myself as 'lucky' at this point 08:27:35 Alright, fair enough, but the job related part is similar to mine except my family is still together 08:28:17 wot 08:28:19 oh 08:28:21 I am working with Germans, and they just love to go into details on unrelated or not important matters all the time. If I wouldn't own a VPS and a home server I would not need to touch anything IT related 08:28:40 and I am still considering myself a geek 08:28:57 and I have to enjoy the domain based environment of office use of Windows and Network, myself, who prefers Linux 08:28:58 slight interruption 08:29:00 wh1t3r4bb1t: 08:29:06 do you understand the thing that I explained to you about redirects? 08:29:09 or do you need clarification? 08:29:31 norbert79: mm 08:29:36 that seems like usual office politics crap 08:29:44 that you can shake off after work time 08:30:20 joepie91: Almost, but when I get home I have abrely enough time for myself 08:30:28 that's better than 0 08:30:31 joepie91: As I have two children and a wife :) 08:30:33 my 'demons' follow me everywhere so to say 08:31:03 You know, I would switch with you for a week although despite how crazy it sounds 08:31:24 the only really quiet moment in my day is right after I wake up, the first minute or two where my thoughts are just empty 08:31:35 oh yeah, I love those moments too 08:31:37 the rest of every single day is a constant onslaught of all the above 08:31:50 I'm going to have a midweek holiday the coming week 08:31:54 4 days or so 08:32:00 Good, take a rest, you deserve it 08:32:01 first holiday in 2 or 3 years 08:32:03 for me 08:32:06 hah, the more then 08:32:17 crazy 08:32:27 I really do need a yearly holiday 08:32:32 but couldn't afford it in recent years 08:32:43 there are not many places where I can go and really relax 08:32:50 Certainly, everyone does... Sometimes when I took some holiday I just went home and slept a lot 08:32:55 south france is probably the cheapest suitable place 08:32:57 in the mountains 08:33:06 and even then I need a driver and some 300 euro for a week 08:33:10 ooh, I never had a chance leaving the country or even my town on holidays often 08:33:16 because without a car you're not getting anywhere in south france 08:33:20 and I don't have a car nor a drivers license 08:33:41 *** ilikeapricot has quit (Input/output error) 08:33:52 and 300 euro is still somewhat cheap then 08:33:53 :p 08:33:54 Right... I have some French buddies, but that would be a bit too much for ask, and i think they don't live in South France 08:34:02 Marseilles and Paris 08:34:10 well it would really need to be a Dutch person actually 08:34:16 I need to get *to* France also 08:34:17 I know a Dutch guy too 08:34:22 and public transport is ridiculously expensive 08:34:42 and another caveat 08:34:43 he is sort of a hacker himself too 08:34:50 I normally go to naturist campsites 08:34:56 that puts off a lot of people that would otherwise not mind going on a holiday 08:35:07 so it's quite tricky to arrange :p 08:35:36 Yeah, i can imagine 08:35:48 Well, i know a Dutch guy and he has a license, and a car too 08:38:40 norbert79: could be worth a try 08:38:50 but the soonest next holiday for me would be next year anyway 08:38:58 so I don't really have to think about arranging that yet :P 08:39:31 *** norbert79 has quit (User quit: Lost terminal) 08:44:49 *** norbert79 (Norbi@cryto-104FD98D.org) has joined #crytocc 08:45:05 Ah, damn, lost my irssi 08:48:50 *** Ari has quit (Connection reset by peer) 08:49:46 norbert79: could be worth a try 08:49:46 but the soonest next holiday for me would be next year anyway 08:49:46 so I don't really have to think about arranging that yet :P 08:50:32 joepie91: I understand what you explained. I got it working now. 08:50:32 Sure 08:50:50 I can arrange a discussion between you guys, or you pay us a visit sometimes on OFTC #telehack 09:14:13 wh1t3r4bb1t: awesome :) 09:14:47 *** mama (me@cryto-FA156F14.privacyrepublic.org) has joined #crytocc 09:17:20 *** tintin (tintin@5DCFB179.164598E0.B7613ADF.IP) has joined #crytocc 09:28:54 I wish I had someone to do all the front end stuff for this social engine. I have tons of back end stuff to do. -_- 10:06:22 *** x has quit (Input/output error) 10:33:46 *** iceTwy (quixotikal@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 11:22:54 *** loldongs (nomnomops@A0B46AEC.3E3CBD3E.5FE3EE37.IP) has joined #crytocc 11:23:37 *** Yolo has quit (Ping timeout) 12:43:53 *** loldongs has quit (Connection reset by peer) 12:44:51 *** Yolo (nomnomops@A0B46AEC.3E3CBD3E.5FE3EE37.IP) has joined #crytocc 12:53:34 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02ClojureDocSearch works on ST3ClojureDocSearch does work on ST3.', '02Merge pull request #1838 from Foxboron/patch-1ClojureDocSearch works on ST3' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/e2c3543eb9...84a7f8ed59) 12:54:35 04FichteFoll made 4 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02add guillermooo/mercurial package', '02improve metadata for guillermooo/Mercurial', '02remove old reference to SublimeHg', '02Merge pull request #1799 from guillermooo/add-mercurialadd guillermooo/mercurial package' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/84a7f8ed59...151de6ad75) 13:04:29 botpie91, tell cayce that XMPlay seems to work under WINE correctly now, without any fixes required... even input plugins work properly! 13:04:30 joepie91: I'll pass that on when cayce is around. 13:24:34 *** loldongs (nomnomops@A0B46AEC.3E3CBD3E.5FE3EE37.IP) has joined #crytocc 13:24:41 *** Yolo has quit (Ping timeout) 13:33:10 *** tintin has quit (User quit: leaving) 13:46:53 *** tintin (tintin@tintin.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 13:50:39 guh 13:51:03 joepie91: didn't you tell me email was a huge shitpilation of broken software 13:52:58 iceTwy: not exactly, why? 13:53:02 did your stuff break? :P 13:53:34 no 13:53:36 not at all 13:53:38 it works perfectly well 13:53:48 got a DKIM sig, antispam, etc etc 13:53:56 but it's too fucking long to configure lol 13:54:07 my guess is that 13:54:39 right :P 13:54:44 mail software devs are probably overlooking the issue of having to simply their software 13:54:50 because anyway, everyone uses Gmail 13:54:51 or w/e 13:54:55 I think I worded the problem along the lines of "it's a pain in the ass" 13:54:58 and yes 13:55:00 OH 13:55:00 also 13:55:01 iceTwy 13:55:03 guess what 13:55:11 xmplay now runs under WINE! 13:56:13 sorry 13:56:14 what 13:56:18 xmplay? 13:56:49 ... yes 13:56:50 xmplay 13:57:02 http://www.un4seen.com/xmplay.html 13:57:10 the one thing I really was missing daily on Linux 13:57:25 doesn't support FLAC? 13:57:33 there's a plugin for FLAC 13:57:38 basically plays whatever you throw at it including tracker/chiptune music 13:57:42 hmm 13:57:44 better support for tracker music than VLC, also 13:57:48 I'm a DeaDBeeF nerd 13:57:51 and has a bunch of really nice skins 13:57:53 like 13:57:56 I /love/ DeaDBeeF 13:57:59 lol 13:58:00 I'm even translating it to French 13:58:16 * joepie91 is playing a FLAC in XMPlay right now 13:58:51 http://owely.com/3HrlKv 14:00:05 aw 14:00:07 dat interface 14:00:08 :< 14:00:30 ? 14:02:22 don't like it lol 14:02:38 I like the player bar 14:02:42 the library is good enough 14:02:49 perfectly fine for me :P 14:14:22 joepie91: send me a mail 14:14:27 @ icetwy@icetwy.Re 14:14:30 icetwy.re* 14:40:14 joepie91:) is xmplay a benchmark-technology-maturity recommendation or do you actually like the program? 14:40:15 cayce: 13:04Z tell cayce that XMPlay seems to work under WINE correctly now, without any fixes required... even input plugins work properly! 14:40:25 shut up botpie I can read scrollback too 14:40:29 lol 14:40:42 I actually like the program 14:40:46 ahh 14:40:47 xmplay was pretty much the only thing I missed daily 14:40:48 on Linux 14:40:55 I've never heard of it or used it 14:41:01 I want foobar2000, that's it 14:41:02 and generally multimedia under WINE is a disaster 14:41:06 so this is quite notable in that sense also 14:41:19 I never had issues... it's just foobar isn't native 14:41:33 which makes me cry panda tears 14:41:33 http://owely.com/3vd4zS 14:41:45 ugly as fuck! 14:41:56 >_> 14:41:57 says foobar user 14:41:57 :3 14:42:00 yes 14:42:11 foobar does what I want, therefore not ugly 14:42:23 rofl 14:42:26 (more importantly, it does it how I want it done) 14:42:39 I <3 xmplay 14:42:39 oh 14:42:45 I can download keygen music stuffs again! 14:42:47 and play them properly! 14:42:47 whoo! 14:42:49 yes 14:43:05 I still have the file for my favorite keygen somewhere 14:43:12 VLCs tracker music playback leaves some to be desired 14:43:53 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71hsjeswBw4 14:43:56 bam! 14:43:58 favorite keygen 14:44:13 vlc? as a music player? that's horrific 14:44:31 cayce: have you *tried* playing tracker music in pretty much anything else? 14:44:42 foobar and uh that app meant to 14:44:45 VLC is the only regular media player that even comes *close* to playing tracker music on Linux lol 14:44:46 works great 14:45:03 'that app meant to' 14:45:07 you mean XMPlay? :P 14:45:10 because that's kind of what it's most famous for 14:45:14 I don't think so 14:45:33 I hated the app except for its ability to play those things 14:45:41 ah 14:45:41 :P 14:45:44 also 14:45:49 how good is foobars support for tracker music? 14:45:59 and it had a neat visualization for the keygens, somewhat like a visual version of the old pinhole music sheets 14:46:04 100% support, almost 100% support, or reasonable support? 14:46:27 there's a plugin for foobar that plays every format I've ever heard of and several more I haven't 14:46:29 also, there's better keygen music than the one you linked :P 14:46:33 well yes 14:46:39 but that doesn't mean it plays everything 14:46:43 there's a bunch of variations in tracker formats 14:46:50 that make some tracks play in for example VLC, and others not 14:46:54 while technically the same format 14:47:02 but so far xmplay plays absolutely *everything* 14:47:04 tbh I don't actually give a fuck >_> It's not a feature I care about 14:47:40 I think this was the one: http://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_dumb 14:47:41 it is one I care about :P 14:49:17 http://www.foobar2000.org/components 14:49:20 figure it out man 14:49:39 there's other plugins too, for shit I don't even know what it is 14:49:41 maybe you know 14:49:44 * cayce shrugs 14:59:13 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02fixed Sublime File Navigator after transferred owner', '02Merge pull request #1839 from Chris---/masterfixed Sublime File Navigator after transferred owner' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/de87cb1d3e...1ef38db204) 15:01:35 cayce: http://support.xmplay.com/files.php?id=12 15:01:44 also http://support.xmplay.com/files.php?id=13 15:01:50 (yes, xmplay supports winamp extensions) 15:02:34 that's not impressive if the program doesn't work the way I want 15:03:59 I feel like you don't know how irritating it is to have someone attempt to sell you on a program you're not interested in 15:12:10 *** tintin has quit (User quit: leaving) 15:12:13 *** iceTwy has quit (Ping timeout) 15:20:55 cayce: not trying to sell it to you actually 15:22:01 it looked like you were >_> 15:39:38 *** YuKy (YuKy@YuKy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 15:41:31 sorry guys, there are problems with the webchat? 15:43:47 .. oh 15:43:51 yeah, sorry, let me fix that 15:43:52 one moment 15:43:52 :P 15:44:35 YuKy; should be fixed now 15:44:37 ok, no problem :) tnx for the answer, good work ;) 15:44:45 had server maintenance and reboot, but forgot to restart qwebirc 15:44:52 it's running now though 15:44:54 oh ok 15:45:18 *** mikaa has quit (Input/output error) 15:45:44 *** mikaa (mikaa@codito.ergo.sum) has joined #crytocc 16:02:59 *** ebola (ebola@ebola.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 17:03:36 *** Ari (Ari@Ari.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 17:09:01 *** iceTwy (quixotikal@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 17:19:19 *** iceTwy has quit (User quit: Quit) 17:22:14 *** iceTwy (quixotikal@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 17:44:53 *** YuKy has quit (User quit: Good bye) 17:53:49 *** tintin (tintin@tintin.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 18:01:06 *** loldongs has quit (Connection reset by peer) 18:01:30 *** Yolo (nomnomops@A0B46AEC.3E3CBD3E.5FE3EE37.IP) has joined #crytocc 19:01:30 *** x (foobar@8A2E482F.4403C8C0.E124FE5.IP) has joined #crytocc 19:08:48 *** YuKy (YuKy@YuKy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 19:46:53 sorry to disturb you again, 19:46:54 but qwebirc of our channel is still not working.. :/ 19:47:32 Is it possible to do something? :) 19:51:35 Hmm, right, true 20:29:17 *** x has quit (Input/output error) 20:41:13 *** ebola has quit (Ping timeout) 20:54:42 *** ebola (ebola@ebola.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 20:58:42 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smEqnnklfYs 21:15:15 *** Ari has quit (Connection reset by peer) 21:59:14 any one knows what happened to vox? 22:05:10 He took a duck to the face at two-hundred and fifty knots. 22:05:59 hmm? 22:22:18 *** YuKy has parted #crytocc (Leaving) 22:41:15 *** mikaa has quit (Input/output error) 22:42:28 *** mikaa (mikaa@codito.ergo.sum) has joined #crytocc 22:45:16 cayce 22:51:04 04FichteFoll made 3 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Update h.jsonAdded more info for hex- plugins.', '02Update h.json', '02Merge pull request #1840 from ALLZ/masterUpdate h.json' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/1ef38db204...ac1e8e18aa) 23:04:05 sovereign has got all the config files 23:04:08 gold mine much? 23:04:14 Answer to sieve is - yep, worked with it at fairly large webmail setup and use it for my own mail 23:05:05 hm 23:05:09 Better than config files - it'll install and configure all that stuff for you, just type in hostname, pick what to use and some minor details 23:06:19 Imho a great example of how to go about addressing "difficult mail setup" thing - sure, low-level tools have to have a lot of knobs, but nothing stops from packaging such high-level config for e.g. ansible to set them all right from higher-level config 23:07:10 Making complaining about "postfix is difficult to setup" akin to "kernel is difficult to hack on" 23:07:49 But of course I'm biased, having worked with large mail setups on past two dayjobs ;) 23:12:44 ugh I can't figure out how to hook up my old college's google apps mail to thunderbird 23:12:55 current one -just works- , but the old one... e.e 23:13:23 they both use sso systems, so I dunno what the difference is :/ 23:14:32 also wtf one of the french news agencies is reporting nyt still down 23:14:37 their dns must be shitty 23:15:16 right, MK_FG 23:15:19 this is pretty simple 23:15:46 /var/mail/vhosts/domainname/user/.dovecot.sieve is supposed to move spam detected by dspam 23:15:53 to the Spam folder 23:16:01 the thing is 23:16:02 it doesn't 23:16:05 => why? 23:16:11 Either that or dovecot has option to have sieve for all users 23:16:21 meh, this is the only user 23:16:28 Check .dovecot.sieve.log in the same path 23:16:48 there's no log for .dovecot.sieve 23:16:54 If it's not present, break sieve file, e.g. by inserting some invalid "asdsadasda" goop there 23:17:07 then restart dovecot? 23:17:18 No, it's used by deliver 23:17:27 Which should be run by postfix 23:17:43 And re-loaded for every mail 23:17:59 (should actually have .sievec file in the same dir with compiled rules) 23:18:17 If that change doesn't create log with error, you're not using sieve (not enabled somewhere) 23:18:25 ....or maybe not using deliver 23:18:41 postfix has it's own bundled delivery command 23:18:54 erm 23:18:57 nope 23:18:58 no error 23:19:09 Check "postconf | grep mailbox_command" 23:19:59 Also "doveadm config | grep mail_plugins" 23:20:36 First should have something like /usr/libexec/dovecot/deliver there and second should have "sieve", at least somewhere 23:20:44 And you have logs... 23:20:47 mailbox_command = 23:20:48 mailbox_command_maps = 23:20:55 mail_plugins = 23:20:55 mail_plugins = " sieve" 23:20:55 mail_plugins = " antispam fts fts_solr" 23:20:58 postfix logs there what it runs for each processed mail 23:21:05 hmk 23:21:11 "mailbox_command =" <-- there's your problem ;) 23:21:46 That thing empty means postfix gets message and runs its own delivery thing (name escapes me...) 23:21:55 ah 23:22:07 where's the option to change it? 23:22:11 main.cf? nah 23:22:22 "delivery thing" is basically command that takes mail message to stdin and smtp RCPT TO as argument 23:22:36 virtual_transport is set to virtual_transport = lmtp:unix:private/dovecot-lmtp 23:22:36 main.cf, yeah 23:22:42 so that should be fine 23:23:05 weird 23:23:27 I think "virtual_transport" there just does check for where mail should go next when it hits it 23:23:43 Not related to delivery 23:23:53 hmk 23:23:59 yeah so mailbox command is currently 23:23:59 #mailbox_command = procmail -a "$EXTENSION" 23:24:13 let's try 23:24:48 No, it's not procmail by default ;) 23:25:31 oh? 23:25:41 that's from 23:25:41 https://github.com/al3x/sovereign/blob/master/roles/mailserver/templates/etc_postfix_main.cf.j2 23:26:02 doesn't work anyway 23:26:08 agh fuckit, I can't procrastinate any longer 23:26:15 * cayce spins up ns2 23:26:21 That's just some example there, "local" is the thing 23:26:32 (if that thing is empty) 23:26:51 ^^^ that about that thing procmail 23:26:57 *that procmail thing 23:28:17 No, "virtual_transport = lmtp:unix:private/dovecot-lmtp" seem to be "lmtp? nexthop=unix:private/dovecot-lmtp" indeed, some pipe to dovecot... 23:28:59 ...but unless you have some mapping pointing mail to that virtual transport, I think you'll never have anything there 23:29:08 hmm? 23:29:12 dovecot & everything works 23:29:13 it's just that 23:29:26 dovecot can't push the mails labelled as "Spam" by dspam to the Spam folder 23:29:29 sovereign probably has it in these mysql maps 23:29:36 but dovecot /does/ receive the emails, etc 23:29:39 and yes it is mapped 23:29:44 Why do you think that? 23:29:51 because it works? 23:29:58 lol 23:30:10 So? It's postfix's local dropping mails into fs 23:30:18 Dovecot then reads and shows these to you 23:30:39 postfix doesn't use that virtual transport for anything by default iirc 23:30:51 oh 23:30:52 really? 23:30:54 anybody really good with quick sed lines? 23:31:15 cayce, I'm better with awk lines! ;) 23:31:18 lel 23:31:28 lol, obv, MK_FG 23:31:33 I need to replace all instances of an IP addy with a different IP addy in a file 23:31:35 if it didn't there would be no postfix/master.cf 23:31:36 am I right? 23:32:10 Um, no, master.cf just defines commands that you can use in main.cf 23:32:41 cayce, It's not that much magic - just "sed 's/1\.2\.3\.4/3.4.5.6/g' file" 23:33:01 (mind single quotes and escaping, because regexp) 23:33:43 yeah my googling lead me to the question "wait aren't dots special chars" haha 23:33:55 I was just there 23:33:56 lol 23:34:31