00:00:16 cause I'm not going to have a 350 lines long sieve config 00:00:30 Hm, nah, I think it'd be more useful to have per-user sieve 00:00:49 In case you'd want to have second and third etc box for e.g. junk mail 00:01:05 Or for work mail, or for someone else.... 00:01:29 yeah 00:01:45 But if you just have "spam goes to spam place" rule there, then set it for all users as in #2 indeed 00:01:57 And allow per-user configs too, dovecot can do that 00:02:01 I think it would go like 00:02:10 /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%u 00:02:13 (iirc it's some different option for all boxes) 00:02:26 no actually 00:02:27 /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n 00:02:35 No, that'd be per-user 00:02:41 yes 00:02:42 But you can add one global config to that 00:02:44 that's what I want 00:02:49 ...is what I meant above 00:02:49 bleh 00:02:50 no 00:03:59 let's try 00:04:20 /me approves 00:04:51 thanks a bunch MK_FG <3 00:05:07 your good faith made me stumble upon /etc/dovecot/90-sieve.conf 00:07:40 I also vaguely recall there being some debug options in dovecot, so right way to "stumble" upon it would've probably been enabling these and seeing something like "sieve: can't find config at ..." in teh logs 00:08:24 yeh 00:08:36 i'll enable those options 00:09:00 I also recall replacing deliver command with "strace -eopen deliver" to see what the hell it does, so maybe they're not that useful for sieve ;) 00:09:42 With unix: thing, you can probably strace -f -eopen dovecot pid easily to the same effect 00:09:43 loool 00:10:02 MK_FG: you do crazy things, really 00:10:04 but you're Russian 00:10:14 so that's a pretty good reason 00:10:28 I have 1€ in BTC 00:10:29 leftover 00:10:35 I could buy you a vodka shot :D 00:11:14 Nah, strace might be a lot faster than figuring out options and easier than restarting the daemon in more-or-less production 00:11:53 Lately I also use fatrace for that, which does same thing wrt seeing open files, but via fanotify 00:12:17 (and there's auditd, but that requires restart, fatrace doesn't) 00:12:57 1€ is indeed just a shot, drinkable vodka costs 2-3€ I think 00:14:30 And I don't have btc set up, need to download gigs there to catch up probably ;) 00:15:29 heh 00:15:30 no 00:15:32 1 solution: 00:15:33 Electrum 00:15:57 it connects to servers that already have the whole blockchain downloaded 00:16:08 written in Python, so no shitty Java security flaws 00:16:09 I've borrowed blueimp's jquery uploader to integrate into a site. I need to add the url of the uploaded file to the user's media table in the db and I can't seem to find where in this function I should call the other function that saves to the db... http://pastebin.com/q418875h 00:17:39 Actually, I think there was some work on having snapshots of all unspent things in official btc client 00:18:22 So that you don't need whole blockchain, only one snapshot with all the keys there, plus hash of latest block for it 00:18:41 But iirc things like satoshi dice were making that rapidly inpractical.... 00:18:46 Maybe after line 25? or... maybe I have to add the call multiple times? 00:22:54 *** AnonO_o (AnonO_o@anonO_o) has joined #crytocc 00:22:57 hai 00:23:06 ello 00:39:56 *** Jester (Jester@cryto-4C7D5518.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #crytocc 00:40:51 sexy, ns2 is up 00:41:19 I'm not actually sure why it took so long, but I'm also not actually sure what script was autorestarting the dnsd lol 00:41:34 * cayce cut that shit out with a scalpel 00:49:06 *** Jester has parted #crytocc (Leaving) 00:52:30 *** Jester (Jester@cryto-1309AB55.dfri.se) has joined #crytocc 00:53:31 hei 00:53:50 *** Jester has quit (User quit: Leaving) 01:06:14 yes hello norway 01:06:25 or no, it was hej 01:06:26 lol 01:21:46 can anyone connect to 01:21:54 https://cloud.icetwy.re/owncloud/ 01:21:55 ? 01:24:47 *** landrone has quit (Ping timeout) 01:24:54 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 01:25:08 ssl_error_rx_record_too_long 01:25:09 pft 01:33:30 iceTwy: 01:33:34 I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not 01:33:34 be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. 01:33:40 [...] 01:33:40 : Command died with status 255: "/usr/bin/dspam". Command 01:33:40 output: sh: 1: /usr/bin/sendmail: not found 01:34:01 broked.avi 01:34:22 what? 01:34:26 yes but 01:34:30 that was a few hours ago 01:34:30 ;) 01:34:36 resend one nao joepie91 01:34:42 also babes 01:34:48 https://cloud.icetwy.re/owncloud/ 01:35:00 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 01:35:12 *** landrone (Adrian@cryto-812F49C0.carolina.res.rr.com) has joined #crytocc 01:35:35 seriously, tho 01:35:38 I should get a StartSSL certificate 01:35:39 lol 01:35:49 why? 01:37:14 coz 01:37:15 fun 01:37:56 applying for StartSSL is, in my experience, many things... but 'fun' is not one of them 01:37:57 lol 01:38:07 oh 01:38:15 I'd gotten to the point of actually having the whole SSL certificate 01:38:16 but 01:38:16 nope 01:38:18 @ramhost 01:39:20 ? 01:43:45 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 01:44:00 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 01:53:35 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 01:54:15 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 02:02:20 wat 02:02:25 startssl is shit simple 02:02:35 even if their site looks and acts like 1996 when it was written 02:03:13 just be sure not to select the sha256 option for cert signing 02:03:49 no version of IE supports it 02:03:56 It's... I forget what it's called 02:04:15 they note the NSA notice that told all "secure" govt people to start using it posthaste 02:04:23 they call it by that name 02:04:24 haha 02:04:41 iirc officially it's sha2 cert signing 02:05:21 (you bet it's the option I selected. fuck anyone using IE, for any reason) 02:05:28 (^) 02:05:57 *** landrone has quit (Ping timeout) 02:07:35 *** landrone (Adrian@cryto-812F49C0.carolina.res.rr.com) has joined #crytocc 02:08:41 *** x (foobar@8A2E482F.4403C8C0.E124FE5.IP) has joined #crytocc 02:14:30 I await the day someone emails me about it 02:15:07 "Hi I got an error connecting to your website, just wanted to let you know! " "Hi, you're using IE aren't you? Please change to a real web browser like chrome, opera, or firefox. Thanks!" 02:18:34 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Update the sublime_text value since it is working with sublime-text-3', '02Merge pull request #1842 from papaDoc/masterUpdate the sublime_text value since it is working with sublime-text-3' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/ac1e8e18aa...996966973e) 02:19:20 that reminds me 02:19:34 I have to remove firefox from the list of browsers I recommend to people, because it doesn't support tls1.2 02:19:54 nss does, but ff doesn't ship it 02:20:16 afaik no about:config tunables to enable it yet either 02:21:15 * cayce goes to find ciphers list for only perfect-forward-secrecy (buzzword woot!) connections 02:22:19 everyone wants backwards support 02:22:37 I wish someone would make a config that says "fuck all our customers. If you can get in, your shit is secure." 02:23:20 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 02:23:31 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 02:24:47 cayce: for once, I don't mind buzzwords 02:24:59 as, for once, it seems to serve increased security 02:25:09 yes 02:25:23 it's resulting in a very fast proliferation of better (not best) configs 02:25:26 which is WONDERFUL 02:25:48 not best because we're waiting on client and server implementations 02:26:14 kinda nice to watch half the net go ssl-only 02:26:32 heh 02:27:05 (congrats NSA, you have sufficiently paranoid-ed everyone to have them turn to more secure configurations) 02:27:21 yep 02:27:35 lol blowback 02:28:07 honestly 02:28:18 ssl_ciphers ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:RC4-SHA; 02:28:20 the fact that masses of non-malicious entities suddenly start caring about encrypting shit 02:28:23 and hiding shit from the NSA 02:28:26 NOT BAD, BUT I SEE RC4 FOR COMPATIBILITY 02:28:30 and moving their shit to *other countries* to do so 02:28:44 should tell NSA guys something about how (not) desired their surveillance crap is 02:29:03 I think the single thing that will actually undo all of this is that it instantly becomes a competitive disadvantage for american corps 02:29:21 that's what will really drive against the nsa 02:29:26 fuck civil liberties, they don't exist 02:29:29 haven't for years 02:29:33 but money? we still care about that. 02:29:34 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 02:30:09 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 02:30:21 * cayce fixes ciphers list 02:32:39 icecream and ssl configs, best dinner 02:33:15 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 02:33:21 geek :P 02:34:27 *** landrone (Adrian@cryto-812F49C0.carolina.res.rr.com) has joined #crytocc 02:34:41 sexy sexy 02:34:42 ssl_ciphers ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA; 02:34:50 that's my shit right there 02:35:08 the RSA ones are for tls1.0 compat 02:35:11 * joepie91 quietly sneaks up behind cayce and adds an 'RC4' to the pile 02:35:36 derp 02:35:36 * cayce beats joepie91 with a giant dildo with 'crypto' scrawled up the shaft in sharpie 02:35:45 so the funny thing is 02:35:57 if I use my ssl certs on Apache 02:35:59 or maybe clue 02:36:00 they don't work on me mail 02:36:01 * joepie91 actually has a mental image of that now.. 02:36:05 :3 02:36:08 iceTwy: mmm? 02:36:09 joepie91:) someday. 02:36:27 I don't understand 02:36:31 If it's the same subdomain 02:36:41 neither do I 02:36:42 but 02:36:42 heh 02:36:47 (awesome gif: http://i.imgur.com/M6ZaqwD.gif) 02:36:47 too tired to understand anyway 02:36:58 indeed 02:37:15 * cayce can't fucking wait for nginx to have per-vhost ssl settings 02:38:00 doesn't it? 02:38:01 apache has 02:38:03 nope 02:38:05 apache does, yeah 02:38:07 apache does 02:38:08 rather 02:38:09 nginx does not 02:38:14 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 02:38:32 it takes the first list of ciphers it finds when loading configs, end of story 02:39:06 so basically we turn ssl on for vhosts, and my anal retentive nature manages ssl ciphers for the whole server 02:39:17 :3 02:39:29 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 02:39:38 NP: [Macklemore & Ryan Lewis - Thrift Shop [feat. Wanz]] [The Heist] [938kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane 02:39:52 oh fuck, it's like almost 8 02:40:16 gotta be up in 10 hours :D 02:40:36 sleep! 02:40:45 not yet o.o 02:40:57 I need precisely 8 hours of sleep 02:41:07 not more than 20 minutes in either direction :P 02:41:24 fair enough :P 02:41:25 also 02:41:25 http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/47690154351/trying-to-code-to-w3c-standards 02:41:29 or 4, I can do exactly 4 equally well 02:41:38 yep 02:41:50 lol 02:41:52 also http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/47352638154/almost-ran-update-without-where 02:42:40 hahaha 02:42:45 I can't imagine Chromium devs 02:42:47 also this: http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/46411768705/trying-to-work-out-a-problem-after-the-5th-hour 02:42:48 or Linux kernel 02:42:49 http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/59279436270/build-fails-just-before-creating-the-executable 02:42:56 iceTwy: hahaha 02:43:47 OH LOL 02:43:51 Linus insulting everyone 02:43:53 because he's mad 02:43:54 also, heh: http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/45826825332/changing-production-without-backups 02:43:55 hahahaha 02:44:02 iceTwy : what is it this time? :P 02:44:07 that'rofl :p 02:45:13 and sadly, I recall this one: http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/45101836919/pushed-code-to-production-recalled-there-was-a 02:45:32 hmm 02:45:35 looool 02:45:36 http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/57780524288/our-engineers-are-working-to-fix-the-problem-in-the 02:45:55 I wonder if the ssl people will yell at me for blocking like 35% of people 02:46:03 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 02:46:50 rofl 02:46:52 iceTwy: http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/44444575875/when-we-dont-write-a-test-for-that-special-corner-case 02:46:52 https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=https%3A%2F%2Fexplodie.org 02:47:08 I get very close to a perfect score 02:47:12 *** landrone (Adrian@cryto-812F49C0.carolina.res.rr.com) has joined #crytocc 02:47:13 100-95-100-90 02:47:25 that's my current config, not even revised yet 02:47:34 Prefix handling Not valid for "www.explodie.org" CONFUSING 02:47:35 CONFUSING! 02:47:39 yes! 02:47:55 because fuck you I don't use www it fucks up the visual flow of the url 02:48:30 heh 02:48:31 also http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/44054856083/starting-in-a-new-normal-job-vs-starting-as-sysadmin 02:48:32 haha 02:49:37 no DNS record for www on explodie? 02:49:39 also http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/43636741338/complex-regexp-worked-exactly-as-expected 02:49:40 :p 02:49:47 there is, yes, but it's just a redirect 02:49:53 to explodie.org? 02:49:57 yep 02:50:02 funny 02:50:06 to https:// I think 02:50:11 anyway 02:50:12 gotta go 02:50:13 to sleep 02:50:15 5AM... 02:50:20 and I'm going back to school in 5 days 02:50:23 :> 02:50:25 wtf am I thinking/doing 02:50:33 I have school at 8am tomorrow, cause I started back this week 02:50:33 :D 02:50:42 I've got a philosophy essay to write 02:50:50 DO IT 02:50:50 gotta clock it in next tuesday 02:50:51 who on 02:50:53 also, TIL 02:50:55 http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/43391083841/how-stonith-works 02:50:55 Sartre 02:50:57 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 02:50:59 ugh I'm sorry 02:51:00 STONITH is a technique for NodeFencing, where the errant node which might have run amok with cluster resources is simply shot in the head. Normally, when an HA system declares a node as dead, it is merely speculating that it is dead. STONITH takes that speculation and makes it reality. "Make it so, Number One". 02:51:03 xD 02:51:20 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 02:51:25 iceTwy: sleep! 02:51:32 yes 02:51:35 night! 02:51:39 night :P 02:51:46 *** iceTwy has quit (Input/output error) 02:51:47 something funny I realized today: the reason we talk about globalization and not modernization is because of postmodernist philosophy 02:52:07 cayce: http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/43069215541/waiting-for-a-full-mysqldump 02:52:20 which focuses entirely on "the human condition", and thus not cause/effect/systems so much 02:52:31 yep 02:52:34 That network is about criptography? 02:53:03 my favorite was learning that bitly's mysql db has so many rows they're not allowed to COUNT because it takes the server down 02:53:07 Tyler: ? 02:53:15 cayce: rofl, what 02:53:19 not even kidding 02:53:39 hilary mason, their former "chief scientist" has mentioned it in several of her talks 02:53:43 I laugh every time 02:53:56 also mariadb is sexy 02:54:12 like... they presented at debconf and I watched the whole thing sexy 02:54:18 I hate db's... mariadb is sexy. 02:54:33 it really truly is what mysql should have been 02:54:34 have a link to their presentation? 02:54:36 also, http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/42013983491/when-an-aws-region-goes-down-and-you-are-not-using-aws 02:54:37 sure sec 02:55:18 *** Tyler has quit (User quit: leaving) 02:55:26 http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2013/debconf13/high/1073_MariaDB.ogv 02:55:29 joepie91:) ^ 02:55:40 It's... yeah 02:55:42 sexy 02:55:44 that's all I've got 02:55:52 bookmarking, thanks :) 02:56:00 and see above devopsreactions link 02:56:01 lol 02:56:18 so the code that sun wouldn't allow in due to licensing and being a corp? they're taking it all. And they're reimplementing all of the new closed source oracle stuff, and better 02:56:39 (I know, I'm using MariaDB in some places) 02:56:47 haha 02:56:50 yeah, we do too 02:57:00 It's drop-in for our stuff 02:57:04 (wordpress and shit, ha) 02:57:18 sounds like there are advanced cases where it isn't any longer 02:57:26 because they've done new stuff better than oracle 02:57:30 and he'll show some graphs 02:57:34 it's not just a little better 02:57:53 protip: when oracle bought sun, everyone on the mysql team left 02:57:56 every. on. 02:57:57 one. 02:58:25 sooo... 02:58:30 Oracle shot themselves in the foot 02:58:31 basically 02:58:35 (which is what they're good at) 02:58:41 yes 02:58:46 they relicensed mysql too 02:58:58 it's not open, from some slightly previous point forward 02:59:05 and they've been removing docs and things 02:59:12 publishing undocumented features and fixes 02:59:23 pretty much turning mysql into a shitty version of oracledb 02:59:29 (irony? loads) 02:59:40 heh 02:59:49 oh well 02:59:53 goodbye mysql, hello mariadb 02:59:56 I give credit, oracledb is powerful if shitty 03:00:01 but uh 03:00:08 also, /me will be away for a while now 03:00:12 mariadb is grabbing all the cool shit and making it even better 03:00:14 it's cool 03:00:15 dr who episode then code 03:00:18 I'mma... I don't know 03:00:19 lol 03:00:24 dick with ssl configs 03:00:26 that's what I'mma do 03:00:27 lol 03:00:28 have fun :P 03:00:33 will do 03:17:52 okay, now I have a list I'm happy with. Let's see what supports it 03:17:55 ssl_ciphers ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA:DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 03:21:40 damn 03:21:43 not bad, actually 03:22:00 doesn't mitigate beast, though 03:22:19 but almost every browser that can connect gets a 256bit forward secure connection 03:25:12 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 03:27:15 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 03:30:21 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 03:30:33 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 03:35:49 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 03:36:45 ugh, it's support OR security 03:36:48 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 03:37:12 almost nothing supports tls1.2 ciphers, and all the tls1.0+ ciphers are vuln 03:37:32 cbc anything and I'm not touching rc4 with a ten foot pole 03:43:56 tls 1.1 and 1.2 fixes beast attacks 03:45:46 the world said rc4 was secure to prevent attaksand required little effort to implement 03:47:00 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 03:47:49 *** landrone (Adrian@cryto-812F49C0.carolina.res.rr.com) has joined #crytocc 04:02:07 I have a gut feeling which tells me rc4 is not secure 04:02:46 my gut tells me it will be broken sufficiently in under 5 years, which means all rc4 traffic being recorded by the NSA will be feasibly decrypted in that time frame 04:02:56 which tells me rc4 is not acceptable 04:03:19 and that's assuming they haven't broken it already 04:03:45 which, because it's been shown publicly to be weaker than we thought though not broken, isn't a convincing assumption 04:04:08 aaaaaand in a spectular misunderstanding of how TOR works, Russia Today reports that "Internet users throughout the world have signed up in droves for anonymity software" 04:04:10 http://rt.com/usa/tor-membership-doubled-nsa-137/ 04:04:20 yes, it really says "membership" and "signed up" 04:05:10 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 04:05:19 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 04:06:18 I'll show you my membership 04:07:11 my head hurts 04:07:20 too much tls browser support matrices 04:08:43 cool 04:08:55 chrome will ship aes-gcm ciphers in 30 04:08:59 hot 04:09:18 * cayce rages that chrome29 on ubuntu doesn't do tls1.2 04:15:05 dunno why, either e.e 04:20:31 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 04:20:44 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 04:22:10 sexy: ssl_ciphers ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA; 04:22:15 vuln to beast, but sexy 04:22:36 drop the last two and you stop being vuln to beast, but you also stop using non-tls1.2 ciphers 04:22:47 * cayce tries to find 1 rc4 04:36:21 cayce, http://zguide.zeromq.org/page:all#Heartbeating 04:38:15 awesome stuffs :) 04:39:47 :> 04:40:09 * cayce cries and adds in a tls1.2 rc4 line as well as a tls1.0 rc4 line 04:40:11 * cayce cuts arms off 04:41:26 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 04:42:22 haha joepie91 that's awesome 04:42:39 "so most people do it this way, which I guess is fine but it's dumb and here's what you should watch for if you do" 04:43:04 *** landrone (Adrian@cryto-812F49C0.carolina.res.rr.com) has joined #crytocc 04:43:17 compromise: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=explodie.org 04:43:30 compromise is still an A 04:43:31 :P 04:46:08 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 04:46:17 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 04:51:35 beef tenderloin steak... mmmm filet is the best. 05:10:11 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 05:10:21 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 05:17:35 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 05:18:45 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 05:26:13 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 05:27:13 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 05:38:43 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 05:39:06 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 06:16:56 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 06:18:53 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 06:21:58 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 06:22:08 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 06:22:36 *** YuKy (YuKy@YuKy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 06:23:41 can some admin please fix our qwebIRC?? 06:25:33 after reebot no longer works 06:27:49 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 06:27:58 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 06:28:22 how can an admin fix YOUR qwebIRC? 06:30:27 ah,I do not know. then who can? 06:36:34 *** AnonO_o has quit (Input/output error) 06:39:59 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 06:40:35 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 06:45:47 http://irc.lc/cryto/crytocc even yours don't work.. or I'm wrong? :/ 06:48:51 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 06:48:58 *** landrone (Adrian@cryto-812F49C0.carolina.res.rr.com) has joined #crytocc 06:53:58 wh1t3r4bb1t: I think he meant for their channel 06:54:08 YuKy: oh, derp 06:54:11 I restarted the web irc 06:54:13 but not the ircd behind it 06:54:15 * joepie91 facepalms 06:54:23 :) 06:54:45 well, that's certainly on the top of my list of stupid things in the past week 06:54:51 *** crytocc679 (crytocc679@cryto-3E6002EF.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 06:54:51 *** lysobit (musalbas@localhost) has joined #crytocc 06:54:53 works now 06:55:05 lol tnx joepie91 06:57:25 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 06:57:35 *** landrone (Adrian@cryto-812F49C0.carolina.res.rr.com) has joined #crytocc 06:58:01 *** crytocc679 has quit (Ping timeout) 06:58:10 *** YuKy has parted #crytocc (Leaving) 07:10:30 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 07:12:34 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 07:21:56 joepie91: Ah, yes I think you're right. My derp. 07:23:09 Tired, frustrated with jQuery file upload by blueimp. 07:24:13 Im stuck on the stupid "Empty file upload result" error. NONE of the posted fixeis work for my case. 07:25:35 What's even more retarded is that I changed NONE of his code. Only added a part that carries the user ID and tries to store the user media references in the database. 07:27:14 I get the feeling that his coding is complete shit - or - he has made this plugin non-adaptable to make money on "fixing" it or "customizing" it. 07:27:41 * wh1t3r4bb1t is about to flame his github. 07:29:09 I asked him what resides behind one of the non-accessible, non-downloadable files and he ignored me. Wouldn't let me get that code. What an asshole. 07:30:05 So, I guess I will start from scratch and write my own jQuery file upload script. 07:42:51 *** mama_ (me@cryto-7FDC2D28.snydernet.net) has joined #crytocc 07:43:57 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 07:44:09 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 07:44:20 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 07:44:24 *** mama_ is now known as mama 07:55:23 wh1t3r4bb1t: be sure to include a flash fallback 08:02:01 joepie91: I was thinking about that... Feel overwhelmed right now. 08:16:09 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 08:16:19 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 08:26:01 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 08:26:36 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 08:35:35 *** x has quit (Input/output error) 08:36:13 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 08:37:12 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 08:45:28 *** anonymous_bastard (anonymous_@cryto-7FDC2D28.snydernet.net) has joined #crytocc 08:48:56 *** anonymous_bastard has parted #crytocc (Leaving) 08:51:57 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 08:52:34 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 08:59:48 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 09:00:47 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 09:08:38 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 09:09:13 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 09:15:09 *** tintin has quit (Ping timeout) 09:50:47 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 09:50:57 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 10:03:40 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 10:03:52 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 10:08:15 *** cipollatritata (soffritto@cryto-356016C3.greenhost.nl) has joined #crytocc 10:10:23 *** cipollatritata has quit (User quit: Sto andando via) 10:18:09 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 10:20:09 *** landrone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 10:28:12 *** Yolo has quit (Ping timeout) 10:28:25 *** loldongs (nomnomops@A0B46AEC.3E3CBD3E.5FE3EE37.IP) has joined #crytocc 10:31:23 *** iceTwy (quixotikal@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 10:31:30 there we goooooo 10:31:37 SSL's working properly now 10:31:40 silly certificates 10:41:31 lol 10:43:46 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 10:43:47 yeah 10:43:59 try to connect to https://vps.icetwy.re/ 10:43:59 it works 10:44:19 *** landrone (Adrian@cryto-812F49C0.carolina.res.rr.com) has joined #crytocc 10:44:47 joepie91: ^ 10:45:59 mhmm, I see 10:47:09 I'm even redirecting http traffic to https 10:47:25 *** landrone has quit (Input/output error) 10:49:05 *** landrone (Adrian@cryto-812F49C0.carolina.res.rr.com) has joined #crytocc 10:50:07 joepie91: to xmpp or not to xmpp 10:53:57 iceTwy: in what sense? 10:59:07 *** stanone (Adrian@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 10:59:25 *** landrone has quit (Ping timeout) 12:00:05 *** Backstage (backstage@42A6C7BC.6003161D.FF5611E1.IP) has joined #crytocc 12:00:21 *** Backstage has quit (User quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi) 12:01:39 joepie91: set up a server or not 12:01:42 but it's done anyway 12:01:51 add me @ icetwy@vps.icetwy.re 12:02:04 but Prosody is annoying 12:02:15 you can't add a CA file to verify the certificate 12:03:02 why not icetwy@icetwy.re? 12:03:13 you can just set up a DNS record specifically for XMPP 12:03:19 oh? 12:03:25 holy crap 12:03:25 noice 12:03:31 http://prosody.im/doc/dns 12:03:40 and the SSL certificate won't bug then? 12:03:43 I mean 12:03:45 depends 12:03:47 does it cover icetwy.re? 12:03:50 yes 12:03:53 icetwy.re, vps.icetwy.re 12:03:54 then you should be fine 12:04:00 iceTwy: 12:04:02 just set an XMPP SRV record on icetwy.re 12:04:08 that points at vps.icetwy.re 12:04:13 kk 12:04:19 Do you live in Réunion? 12:04:22 for both client and server 12:04:32 then people can add you as icetwy@icetwy.re 12:04:40 (don't forget to update your Prosody config!) 12:05:07 also, iceTwy, if you're stuck with Prosody, join prosody@conference.prosody.im 12:05:09 (XMPP room) 12:05:12 they're very helpful :) 12:05:14 Nope lysobit 12:05:17 but I'm French 12:05:17 ;) 12:05:26 "Since December 6, 2011, the rules for registering French domains have changed. The owner of a domain does need not to be based in France anymore. " oh, cool 12:05:31 joepie91: Prosody will use icetwy.re as a vhost yeah? 12:05:37 iceTwy: if you tell it to, yes 12:05:37 (they took pwn.re away from me when I registered it) 12:05:41 kk 12:05:54 iceTwy: note that you may need to re-register your accoun 12:05:55 account * 12:06:02 or mess around with changing the fqdn for your account 12:06:08 (the ease of which depends on where you store your data) 12:06:21 mysql db 12:06:22 so 12:06:22 er 12:06:25 I'll just delete it 12:06:28 no big deal 12:06:31 also 12:06:46 prosody stores the SSL key & MySQL DB passwords in its config file 12:06:58 so er 12:07:20 mhmm 12:07:23 but yeah 12:07:27 pop into their XMPP room 12:07:46 sec 12:14:01 I wonder how much research they had to do for this, the use of the 'top' command to list the top 10 is just genius. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il5YgeHdHxw 12:14:51 joepie91: it works! :d 12:14:54 :D* 12:14:58 lysobit: looks like someone had a fun afternoon with After Effects 12:15:31 iceTwy: whoop 12:15:35 so I can now add icetwy@icetwy.re? 12:15:36 joepie91: have you even seen Die Hard 4.0? 12:15:46 lysobit: have not 12:16:06 yes you can joepie91 12:16:11 isn't it amazing? 12:16:15 added 12:16:17 :) 12:16:18 k 12:16:28 iceTwy: be happy that you're using Prosody 12:16:35 if you were trying to use ejabberd, you would be pulling out your hair right now 12:16:36 probably 12:16:37 :P 12:17:20 also, lysobit, mildly amusing how they play .mov files 12:17:44 haha 12:17:52 ha 12:17:55 I've heard good things about Prosody 12:17:56 and yeah 12:18:03 you've got a server running in 20 mins max 12:18:05 joepie91, You're erlangist! 12:18:19 I mean, if you're going to go all HEY LOOK I MAKE EVERYTHING IN TERMINAL AND LINUX STYLE, then at least go for ogv 12:18:23 or something similarly free and obscure 12:18:36 iceTwy: pretty much 12:18:39 MK_FG: most certainly not 12:18:45 I have come to hate ejabberd and erlang with a passion 12:19:00 See? ;) 12:19:12 lol 12:19:17 an erlangist would be praising erlang ;) 12:19:21 not what I'm aiming for :P 12:19:24 also joepie91 quick PM 12:19:28 Racists won't praise niggers! 12:20:13 oh 12:20:17 Putin won't praise gays 12:20:17 yup 12:20:18 (actually, they very well may, but hang on) 12:20:29 MK_FG: 'racist' does not refer to a certain race being considered inferior 12:20:31 Putin is gay though 12:20:36 that he is 12:20:41 it refers to a certain race - usually the race that said person belongs to - being considered superior 12:20:46 and everything *else* being considered inferior 12:20:58 therefore, an erlangist would have a specific preference for erlang 12:21:01 and consider everything else inferior 12:21:15 Hm, good point 12:21:27 and MK_FG, you do know that there are plenty of racists that believe 'niggers' (to use your words) are the superior race? 12:22:04 Huh, nope, don't think I actually heard of these 12:22:32 try walking around in south africa at night as a white person, and you'll learn very quickly :) 12:23:14 seriously though 12:23:17 racism exists in all flavours 12:23:52 Probably, just different quantities 12:48:45 Hey 12:48:51 Do you want to have a laugh 12:49:39 if so 12:49:53 look at the following URL (the URL itself should be enough) 12:49:53 http://colocrossing.com/ 12:52:24 Hm, I don't get it 12:52:35 colocrossing is massive lolz 12:53:13 Is it one of these urban dictionary things for weir kinky bdsm stuff? ;) 12:55:06 oh god 12:55:07 colocrossing 12:55:19 * iceTwy grins 12:55:28 joepie91, would you like a VPS at colocrossing? 12:55:32 free of charge! 12:55:37 no thanks 12:55:46 uptiemz 99.9%!! 12:55:55 oh, I'm sure 12:56:08 it's just a shame that that 0.1% downtime isn't in one go 12:56:14 but spread over single-second blips through an entire month 12:56:23 rofl 12:59:43 *** loldongs has quit (Connection reset by peer) 12:59:52 *** Yolo (nomnomops@A0B46AEC.3E3CBD3E.5FE3EE37.IP) has joined #crytocc 13:05:03 *** fanat1ck (fanat1ck@cryto-D0EF1FE2.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 13:06:25 *** fanat1ck has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 13:09:17 also joepie91 13:09:29 do IRC servers support DNS SRV records 13:13:08 I don't think so 13:15:31 minecraft does! 13:15:55 lol really 13:16:11 and bram cohen's a dork so bittorrent uses fucking txt records instead of srv 13:16:18 yes o.o 13:17:18 _minecraft._tcp SRV 0 0 25565 smp.explodie.org. 13:17:31 that address doesn't respond, but it used to :) 13:18:03 and bittorrent looks like 13:18:03 explodie.org. TXT "BITTORRENT UDP:6969" 13:18:42 most torrent clients support that record, too 13:18:44 :P 13:19:54 I think that's because the protocol was originally designed to stop DDoS attacks against sites, by allowing sites to have "BITTORRENT DENY ALL" in their record 13:20:14 It was originally designed by one of TPB's founders http://bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0034.html 13:47:42 ffs. 13:53:22 urgh... I really need more practice at writing language parsers 13:53:54 always missing tiny things that completely break my idea of how to write a parser 13:53:54 :p 13:55:08 yes, or do as I do now which is make sure smart clients hit my udp tracker instead of http 13:55:42 (which is what the current behavior of that line does) 13:56:17 * cayce waits for coffee to cool so whole cup can be drank 13:56:53 I'm supposed to leave in 3.5 minutes, not gonna happen 13:56:55 e.e 13:57:06 * joepie91 smashes keyboard 13:57:13 but it's cool, I made it in 17 minutes last time 13:57:15 cayce: coffee over travel! 13:57:18 wat 13:57:25 on a bike up a hill? I think not! 13:57:31 also I've never owned a portable cup 13:57:33 >_> 13:57:57 * cayce wonders if the library circulation desk is open before 8am 13:58:06 I meant as in priority 13:58:06 :p 13:58:14 don't drink on a bike 13:58:17 oh 13:58:18 friend of mine did that, didn't go well 13:58:21 I took it to be a rate 13:58:25 woops 13:58:28 too much calculus 13:58:28 lol 13:58:30 lol 13:58:44 (one might say just the right amount of calculus, really) 13:59:14 enough to both fail calculus and understand the proofs in trig, as they were used in calc, afterwards 13:59:23 because I take classes backwards 13:59:24 <3 13:59:35 haha 14:00:47 *** mama has quit (Client exited) 14:01:41 *** mama (me@2908E8BD.3E0E7151.46BB9CF0.IP) has joined #crytocc 14:06:27 rageface 14:06:37 spilled rice everywhere trying to move the cooker's bucket 14:06:41 cause it was hot e.e 14:08:10 NP: [Dengue Fever - Uku] [Cannibal Courtship] [927kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane 14:09:37 *** Yolo has quit (Connection reset by peer) 14:09:45 *** Yolo (nomnomops@A0B46AEC.3E3CBD3E.5FE3EE37.IP) has joined #crytocc 14:12:33 YOLEAUX 14:13:49 delicious coffee 14:14:05 quickly approaching the time to ride 4 miles to school 14:14:21 interesting possible issue with the SSL system: if one of the 133 root certificate authorities recognised by firefox were comprosied, could you not pretend to be google.com in a mitm attack? 14:14:30 compromised* 14:15:14 that's entirely correct 14:15:23 pretty stupid then 14:15:24 closer to 600 CA's capable of such a thing 14:16:25 lysobit: which is why the SSL CA model is bullshit 14:16:30 it can happen 14:16:34 it *has* happened 14:16:36 and will happen again 14:16:37 ^ 14:16:44 check your... there's a list of certs in ff 14:16:50 listed as banned or blacklisted 14:16:56 I thiiiiink my parser kinda works 14:16:59 they actually ship the certs so ff knows exactly which to block 14:16:59 http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/security/nss/lib/ckfw/builtins/certdata.txt?raw=1 14:17:01 \o/ 14:17:05 congrats 14:17:11 woot! 14:17:33 So what is stopping me from registering a certificate for 'google.com' right now at one of those CAs? 14:17:34 * cayce runs 14:17:48 they have a block on registering google.com 14:17:50 that's it 14:17:52 lysobit: their identity verifications 14:17:55 probably 14:18:08 * cayce actually runs 14:18:32 http://www.startssl.com/ offers free ssl and they don't do any verification beyond email address and the domain name 14:18:43 actually, makes sense 14:18:51 (you need access to the domain name) 14:20:35 lysobit: basically, SSL is as strong as the weakest verification mechanism employed by any CA 14:20:53 (if you trust CAs that is) 14:20:56 hence 'web of trust' 14:21:02 (SSL ofc involves a lot more, and doesn't require a CA) 14:21:13 lysobit: http://convergence.io/? 14:21:14 :P 14:22:19 anyway 14:22:26 I've been writing a parser for this syntax: 14:22:28 (paste incoming) 14:22:46 http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?4f1b8cf179bf6bbb#xhz57CK8JKGxf4buxuaRv9Y9RwBkwZ2jgcG9321wT08= 14:23:00 the basic parser is done, still need to do the filter rule parsing 14:23:07 but it understands the base syntax 14:24:33 some sort of config file? 14:24:52 wtf is wrong with ircd-hybrid 14:25:00 even when you have libopenssl-dev 14:25:10 iceTwy: why... would you run hybrid? 14:25:15 iunno 14:25:19 seems to be a good irc daemon 14:25:24 either use unreal or, if you want a more modern daemon, go with inspircd 14:25:24 got any other? 14:25:35 (inspircd isn't terribly easy to set up with IRC either, but at least it's somewhat decent) 14:25:40 (er, with SSL*) 14:25:56 lysobit: it's an example rulebook for the new design of my server control / task distribution / etc. thing 14:26:12 previous design was too conceptually complex to implement properly 14:26:15 or even to understand properly 14:26:25 so I've generalized it into a generic message routing thing 14:26:26 yeah 14:26:31 that can be configured using a rulebook 14:26:34 with the above syntax 14:26:46 so you can basically set up arbitrarily structured clusters of servers 14:28:28 so you can type 'convert xyz' in a shell for example and it routes it to the right server 14:28:54 that.. depends 14:29:07 it's not fairy dust - it will only route messages that it is given 14:29:28 but theoretically you could make a small commandline utility that contacted the local Nexus node (Nexus is at least the working name for this) 14:29:36 and told it "hey, user wants to convert this" 14:29:50 and, given your Nexus node is set up to route conversion tasks correctly, it'll throw it at the right server 14:29:59 which may be local, remote, whatever 14:30:09 it's also intended for error logging etc 14:30:10 brb 14:33:24 right 14:33:25 back 14:33:36 lysobit: what would also, for example, be a possibility 14:33:58 is having $custom_php_application_you_wrote contact the Nexus node on its server if an exception occurs 14:34:00 and send it there 14:34:07 and have multiple applications do that 14:34:20 and just set up Nexus to route every software error message to a bunch of logging nodes 14:34:50 do that on every server running some kind of application 14:35:04 and boom, in 10 minutes you've set up centralized error logging 14:36:16 the idea is basically to remove the need to write code (where possible) for peddling messages back and forth 14:36:28 and have your entire message routing logic visible at onec 14:36:29 once * 14:36:32 in one set of routing rules 14:36:45 much easier to deal with conceptually, and much more consistent 14:48:16 http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?64d9333acd517b9e#RQeDmNSz3Dd53vjKB30AKvbPmYYxuOEil6jk8l+koFo= 14:48:20 almost! 15:07:00 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02added cryz/sublime-i18n-and-l10n-helperThis is a sublime i18n/l10n plugin.', '02Merge pull request #1802 from cryz/patch-1added sublime i18n and l10n helper' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/996966973e...9717fe8ca4) 15:12:55 joepie91: inspircd is OVERLY retarded 15:13:04 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Update g.jsonThe git plugin won't download for me any more. Github doesn't appear to redirect the old repository for codeload download.https://github.com/kemayo/sublime-text-2-git will redirect fine but https://codeload.github.com/kemayo/sublime-text-2-git/zip/master (which is what's used) gives a 500.', '02Merge pull request #1846 from petehamilto 15:13:13 iceTwy: hmm? 15:13:26 I've had my share of issues with inspircd, but wouldn't call it retarded by any stretch of the imagination 15:13:36 Thu Aug 29 17:12:26 2013: Unable to initialize m_ssl_gnutls.so: Unable to load GnuTLS server private key (/etc/ssl/inspircd/ssl.key): Base64 unexpected header 15:13:37 error. 15:13:39 *** zxcvbnm (~crack7765@zxcvbnm.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 15:13:48 yeah, that was the SSL problem I was talking about 15:13:48 lol 15:13:52 muhaha 15:13:53 ugh 15:13:55 there is a fix 15:13:57 a Google-able fix 15:13:57 HOW 15:14:00 I forgot what it was though 15:14:08 you could hop onto anonops and ask an oper there 15:14:11 * iceTwy points a laser at joepie91 15:14:12 they've struggled with this same issue 15:14:13 you 15:14:15 shall tell me 15:14:16 :p 15:14:17 okay 15:14:18 I don't know lol 15:14:19 iceTwy 15:14:20 Lazer. Blazer. 15:14:22 irc.anonops.org? 15:14:25 why do you think cryto is still running unreal 15:14:28 :P 15:14:31 unreal tournament! 15:14:33 irc.anonops.com I think 15:14:33 tam 15:14:35 atm * 15:14:36 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02MaxPane actually works in all versions of SublimeText', '02Merge pull request #1845 from jisaacks/masterMaxPane actually works in all versions of SublimeText' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/7987a7317e...dcac55a17b) 15:14:50 look lets all just remain calm 15:14:56 iceTwy: I would recommend finding a network support channel 15:14:57 and asking there 15:15:03 yeah 15:15:14 if you ask in #anonops, zline is virtually guaranteed 15:15:24 how much does a zline cost 15:15:40 zxcvbnm: nothing, if anonops' ban rate is anything to judge by 15:15:48 :) 15:15:52 which is nots 15:15:54 they can be a bit... triggerhappy 15:16:38 I need some more ideas 15:16:39 *** tintin (tintin@tintin.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 15:17:04 i rooted my tablet last night, will put some standard stuff on it.. but i want to do something creative with it 15:19:22 nothing on #anonops 16:07:40 joepie91: yeah so 16:07:55 the problem stems from StartSSL.com's OpenSSL version 16:08:07 they use an old OpenSSL version to generate certs & keys 16:08:14 okay 16:08:15 so 16:08:17 suggestion: 16:08:18 and they're pretty much incompatible with GnuTLS 16:08:28 afaik there's an unpack feature in openssl or gnutls 16:08:34 where you can decode the data 16:08:37 and then just pack it up again 16:08:41 in the current format 16:08:41 hm 16:08:44 I vaguely recall something like that 16:08:47 err 16:23:12 nope.. 16:23:21 GnuTLS can't read this header: 16:23:22 -----BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY----- 16:23:22 Proc-Type: 4,ENCRYPTED 16:23:22 DEK-Info: AES-256-CBC,B91A083A0260F158D01C982CD969C13E 16:23:30 it's OpenSSL-specific 16:23:34 so you need to decrypt it 16:23:35 but er 16:24:57 iceTwy: so decrypt it with openssl 16:25:03 done 16:25:04 but even then 16:25:08 nada 16:25:12 same error 16:29:17 iceTwy: post on serverfault 16:30:05 nah 16:30:14 I'll recompile inspircd with openssl 16:32:19 sleep! 16:32:21 night all 16:35:26 nigth 16:37:52 *** ElectRo` has quit (Input/output error) 16:50:18 *** dpk has quit (Ping timeout) 16:52:07 *** ElectRo` (x@9F666F68.552F7BAC.22FE0CCA.IP) has joined #crytocc 17:15:40 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 17:16:05 *** dpk (dpk@dpk.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 17:22:35 *** mama (me@cryto-C4B235B.tor.leo-unglaub.net) has joined #crytocc 17:27:24 *** dpk has quit (Ping timeout) 17:29:02 server-side pgp key generation... facepalm https://www.igolder.com/pgp/generate-key/ 18:09:00 *** dpk (dpk@dpk.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 18:26:46 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 18:27:59 *** mama (me@cryto-57A5E8D5.snydernet.net) has joined #crytocc 18:36:26 *** iceTwy has quit (Ping timeout) 18:39:09 *** iceTwy (quixotikal@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 18:55:05 *** ebola has quit (User quit: Leaving) 18:55:28 *** zxcvbnm has quit (Ping timeout) 19:45:18 *** dpk has quit (Ping timeout) 19:56:19 So I get an email that says "Hello, are you up for a chat? How do I contact you other than this?". I can reply, but I'm scared its going to be something lame and a waste of time. 20:00:07 So I think I'll encode my XMPP address through 20 different string encodings. If he can figure it out, then it might be worthwhile. 20:14:25 joepie91: nijaxor appears to be pointing to the wrong IP(?) 20:16:55 *** dpk (dpk@dpk.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 20:23:49 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 20:25:29 *** mama (me@cryto-90C0E5F7.snydernet.net) has joined #crytocc 20:47:17 *** ElectRo` has quit (Ping timeout) 21:01:06 *** ElectRo` (x@cryto-9A2E8597.privacyrepublic.org) has joined #crytocc 21:01:43 stable connection is stable 21:04:01 *** crytoweb713 (crytoweb71@1FCF754F.CF9FBDF6.720B227C.IP) has joined #crytocc 21:04:57 *** crytoweb713 has quit (User quit: Page closed) 21:13:33 *** skill3r (skill3r@developers.developers.developers) has joined #crytocc 21:21:41 *** dpk has quit (Ping timeout) 21:30:14 cayce: ultimate groove 21:30:14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T1BPo7Yx5s 21:38:30 *** dpk (dpk@dpk.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 21:49:09 Im inserting into a postgres database... The try/catch isn't catching any exceptions but the data is NOT in the database when I look. What could be the cause of such craziness? 22:21:34 wh1t3r4bb1t, Not comitting transaction? 22:23:18 AHHHH hA! 22:24:54 MK_FG: I kiss your face because you solve my problem, after being hung up on testing other theories for hours. Thank you, the problem is solved! 22:25:33 * wh1t3r4bb1t facepalms. 22:27:32 * iceTwy chuckles 22:27:35 wh1t3r4bb1t: see 22:27:41 when we all code something 22:27:43 or setup something 22:27:48 we always forget the last, simplest bit 22:30:17 iceTwy: yes indeed. 22:41:36 *** GHOSTnew has quit (Ping timeout) 22:44:05 *** GHOSTnew (GHOSTnew@GHOSTnew.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 22:56:53 joepie91: well I've found charybdis to be a nice alternative 23:19:33 aaaaand boom 23:19:34 charybdis works 23:31:54 iceTwy:) I wasn't here, but that's what I would have recommended 23:32:14 I hate unreal and inspircd with a passion, but ratbox and derivitives are very nice in my experience 23:32:56 they're the simplest to set up 23:33:01 yes 23:33:06 all I had to do 23:33:16 was to put the location of my ssl cert & ssl key & dh.pem 23:33:24 start the server 23:33:25 boom 23:33:26 works 23:33:31 I've heard that ratbox has issues staying linked to other servers, but I've also heard that part of the point of charybdis was to fix such issues 23:33:39 hmm 23:34:01 If you just want to run a small net though, it's an amazing first server 23:34:11 my ircd was always ratbox 23:34:19 primarily /because/ it didn't come with services 23:34:52 but ratbox's services are wierd to use so even when I had em, most didn't use em 23:35:18 and eh, iceTwy that jam session is okay 23:35:27 but I wouldn't listen to it of my own accord 23:36:51 *** iceTwy has quit (Ping timeout) 23:44:06 *** ElectRo` has quit (Ping timeout) 23:46:29 *** iceTwy (quixotikal@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 23:46:35 this sort of makes me want to cry 23:46:35 http://irc.netsplit.de/networks/top100.php 23:46:47 look at the number of users