00:00:03 or snicked on 00:02:27 got rolled more than rollers 00:05:26 lol 00:05:31 no its because they're dumbfucks 00:09:07 besides that! 00:09:09 that doesn't counter my statement 00:09:17 lmao 00:09:57 though I suppose if you grew up in any sort of a hood, you don't roll 00:10:12 hmm, I wonder if there's actually any correlation there 00:17:53 they where snitched on by owen 00:18:27 the us government is just fucking stupid 00:18:40 ofc 00:18:49 that why i dont live their 00:19:24 lmfao 00:19:31 i dont live in the us since they're fucking stupid also :P 00:22:02 DrWhat: owen? interesting!! 00:22:48 are you sure? 00:23:30 (nod) 00:23:40 ohh 00:23:46 this sint skype 00:23:48 hmm? 00:23:54 * DrWhat nods 00:23:58 better :) 00:24:05 oh! 00:24:19 don't nod :P 00:24:26 i need to know :P 00:24:36 * DrWhat nods 00:24:42 LOL 00:25:36 ok, when you stop noding, tell me what do you think DrWhat haha! 00:26:04 i think i need food 00:26:08 or better: what do you know about "this owen affair" 00:26:51 * mama is preparing pizza, cake and orange juice for DrWhat ;) 00:27:23 Just pizza pl0x 00:27:30 ok :) 00:27:34 not keen on sweets and juice 00:27:40 replace the juice with coffee 00:27:49 wow me too haha 00:28:57 why you said "owen" while i spent this day thinking to him?!! strange coincidence :s 00:30:33 lol 00:30:51 I know more about the worlds dealings some people will cry 00:31:16 the things i have seen make it hard for me to smile. 00:31:21 I am already criying 00:32:14 but i refuse do allow depression to invade me 00:33:32 one day or another we will know all these hidden things, we have only to resist until that day 00:33:51 resisit what 00:34:10 all day i been working 00:34:25 Why you thing i get involed with a lawyer 00:34:25 I believe that only by staying what we are, we are resisting 00:34:32 why am i reversing so many types of packets 00:34:51 i would know and help if i can 00:35:02 you wouldnt 00:35:12 as joepie knows 00:35:14 I work alone 00:35:17 i would do anything that help us to resist 00:35:25 Walking this path forever 00:35:48 working alone is the best thing you can do 00:35:49 Leave people behide the whether 00:35:55 Just another day in my life 00:36:03 one anon can be a LEGION by himself 00:36:20 who said anything about anon 00:36:29 I have my own name 00:36:31 me :P 00:36:34 DrWhatNoName 00:36:39 LOL 00:38:13 good night, i hope we can talk tomorrow 00:40:04 We will not 00:40:06 Ill be gone 00:40:31 mama, wheres my fucking pizza 00:40:43 i need just to say something: the big difference between an activist and a secret agent is that an activist tends to spread knowledge while agent tends to keep it for himself and maybe sell it 00:40:58 I SENT YOUR PIZZA!!!! 00:41:29 whats knowlage got to do about it 00:41:47 just saying :P 00:41:51 and activist follows the heard 00:41:55 i do not 00:41:57 Simple 00:42:02 I have the same goals 00:42:08 i just go about them diffrently 00:42:10 knoledge, info, anything of this kind 00:42:17 and in the shadow of averyone else 00:42:53 this is anon :P 00:43:01 This is cryto 00:43:03 !topic 00:43:08 !topic #crytocc 00:43:14 Stupid bot 00:43:16 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah 00:43:18 i beat you 00:43:27 hey joe is dead, no? 00:43:34 Rules: no Anonymous, no cracking, no drama 00:43:37 hahahhahhaha, we can talk anon :P 00:43:43 hahahhaahahahahahahahahahah 00:43:47 No we cant 00:43:53 I will sell the infomation 00:43:53 ok 00:43:58 becuse unlike anon 00:44:07 Everyone loggs here 00:44:16 loggy, pointer? 00:44:16 http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2013-10-02#T00-44-16 00:44:17 i know 00:44:28 and i don't care :P 00:44:43 i love loggy 00:45:18 good night am gonna logging my dreams ;) 00:45:42 so you can "read" them tomorrow :) 00:45:43 Thought your ment to be depressed? 00:45:57 NAH 00:52:26 Oh shit 00:52:30 i just noticed 00:52:32 NO RYAN 00:52:35 YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAAYAYAYAYY 00:59:13 LOL FUCK. 00:59:16 GTA 5 = good 00:59:24 just got eaten by a shark -,- 01:02:27 bf4 = great 01:02:38 wind alters bullet projectory 01:03:02 you can drive a tank up a sky scraper 01:03:31 and you have full swimming capibility 01:11:57 lol nice 01:44:27 *** joepie92 (joepie91@E0EF0B4E.8949E6E0.92880880.IP) has joined #crytocc 01:53:46 *** joepie92 has quit (Ping timeout) 02:07:30 *** joepie92 (joepie91@E0EF0B4E.8949E6E0.92880880.IP) has joined #crytocc 02:07:43 pointy pointer! 02:10:45 delicious steak and rice burrito 02:11:17 STABIBLITY 02:11:22 wow 02:11:23 STABILITY* 02:12:07 NAH NIGGA, IT'S STABIBILITY 02:12:24 :3 02:12:25 no 02:12:27 stabiblity 02:12:37 much more stabble than stable! 02:12:38 * cayce stabs 02:12:42 D: 02:12:59 stabibility approaching zero 02:13:00 also 02:13:00 :D 02:13:14 finally managed to word 'proper security policy' into one tweet-sized sentence 02:13:16 .tw https://twitter.com/joepie91/status/385218700342603776 02:13:17 Security: "I might be protecting myself against many threats that don't really exist, but you're vulnerable to the one that does." (@joepie91) 02:13:31 THAT ONLY TOOK ME FOUR YEARS 02:13:41 welcome to real security 02:13:45 it's not easy 02:13:45 :D 02:19:15 joepie91337 02:19:20 dead 02:19:26 "real security" 02:19:26 LMFAO 02:19:52 by the way, I assume everyone here has read this? http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/09/gendarmerie_linux/ 02:19:53 .title 02:19:54 joepie92: French National Police Switch 37,000 Desktop PCs to Linux | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com 02:20:20 GOOD 02:20:29 no more MSF 02:22:28 joepie92 02:22:44 wheres joepie91 02:22:55 YES 02:25:46 im telling u i killed him 02:26:23 DrWhat: hmm? 02:26:34 joepie SH! 02:26:41 oh, by the way, gendarmerie reported a lowering of total cost of ownership of 40% or so 02:26:49 since switching to their custom ubuntu 02:26:59 SO MUCH FOR MICROSOFTS MAIN ANTI-LINUX ARGUMENT EH 02:27:27 linux always costs nothing to run, and nothing much to maintain heh 02:27:58 now for security if they can manage that! 02:28:11 tommykaine: the ancient argument has always been that Linux sysadmins cost more than Windows syadmins 02:28:15 and while generally true 02:28:25 that is easily offset by MS' licensing costs 02:28:43 (it's also not a permanent situation, the cheaper MS admins) 02:29:13 it's the same reason there's so many "cisco-certified" network engineers 02:29:21 even in companies where absolutely no cisco anything is used 02:29:33 i always thought it was the actual costs of intergrading and having to 'train' them they never switched 02:29:52 that's also mentioned sometimes but that's a one time cost 02:29:54 so not very significant in TCO 02:30:00 Ill tell ya one thing if they did that everywhere there would no crazy or stupid system crashes 02:31:34 I need a new cheese slicer. 02:31:46 that, or *very* strong glue 02:31:56 my company for instace they run these mini cixtrix virtual machines because the costs of real desktop is much more and no limitation for lowerend employees 02:32:02 lol 02:32:04 cheese slicer 02:32:55 tommykaine: I don't understand why anyone would -not- have a cheese slicer 02:32:58 they're immensely useful 02:33:01 and not just for cheese 02:33:09 *** Zoned has quit (Connection reset by peer) 02:33:50 what about a Calluses remover? 02:33:57 same concept 02:34:07 I have one like this: http://www.delekkerstekaas.nl/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/5/0/5031_2_.jpg 02:34:14 it slices pretty much anythiung 02:34:17 anything * 02:35:27 http://www.foodservicewarehouse.com/browne-halco/3199/p7568.aspx?utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=Browne-Halco-3199&utm_campaign=Cheese-Graters&utm_source=googleproductfeed&source=googleps&gclid=CNiUzdyO97kCFc4-MgodOF8A7Q 02:35:30 MWHAHAHA 02:38:05 tommykaine: those things are a disaster 02:38:14 they're better for grating your hands than grating cheese 02:38:16 and they're impossible to clean 02:38:41 lol not with a power sink! 02:39:41 tommykaine: http://eviewer.netmedia-europe.be/cache/server?type=image&source=promobutler_be%2Flidl%2Factive%2F%2Flidl327n0000065.jpg 02:39:44 problem solved 02:41:41 tommykaine: there, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p32pyN_cEA 02:43:36 you sure you don't want this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWRyj5cHIQA 02:44:32 oh god those things are a disaster 02:45:21 tommykaine; these things have been around in NL for years 02:45:26 er 02:45:31 that'd be an understatement 02:45:41 they've been around for longer than I've been alive 02:45:45 lol 02:45:54 and they're the perfect way to make your hands hurt 02:46:02 even more than they would when just cutting shit with a knife 02:46:13 pieces of crap they are 02:46:26 I mean sure, they're useful for large amounts of food 02:46:27 but fuck 02:47:58 there only recent for us. :P 02:48:07 *** Zoned (zoned@Zoned.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 02:48:09 hey anyone know a good tv steaming site? 02:48:11 ahi sexies 02:50:00 AH, found it 02:50:01 tommykaine: http://www.lovefood.com/images/Content/Journal/garlic%20twist%20534X356.jpg 02:50:11 useful little gadget for cutting garlic 02:50:22 (yes, I know it looks like a weed grinder, that's not what it is) 02:50:27 lies 02:50:42 you NLers lol 02:51:03 actually this is originally an American thing :) 02:51:19 we just happen to have a company producing these things on the cheap 02:51:23 or rather, supplying* 02:51:30 "on the cheap" = for less than a euro 02:51:44 i was going to say US did what when? 02:54:36 this is kind of amusing: https://a-ads.com/ 02:54:42 "Anonymous Ads is an advertising network that doesn't collect personal data" 02:54:57 slightly higher up in the page: 02:54:58 "impressions/day from 447K unique IP" 02:55:03 IPs* 02:55:08 okay.avi 02:57:52 hey joe you know a tv steaming site? 02:58:13 *** x (foobar@cryto-4ABAF172.as5577.net) has joined #crytocc 02:58:23 tommykaine: doubt any TV streaming sites exist 02:58:27 any good ones that is 02:58:35 ahhh 02:59:24 tommykaine: just use primewire.ag to find stuff :P or torrents 03:01:11 wat 03:01:12 https://www.thebitcoinbundle.com/ 03:04:37 i dont get it? ^ 03:06:21 nvm main site said nothing, mainly for EFF 03:06:22 tommykaine: same idea as the humble bundle, except exclusively with Bitcoins, and the actual revenue paid out to the developers is in BTC also 03:06:26 instead of converting to USD 03:08:09 figured that out i downlaoded the press release and said everything there lol 03:10:29 RE time for me! 03:18:43 wppt 03:21:04 work time for me 03:27:33 NP: [Shiny Toy Guns - Le Disko] [We Are Pilots v3.0] [1056kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane 03:30:57 BUT WHERE ARE THE WEBSITE THAT DO NOT HAVE MALWARE! http://www.techhive.com/article/2034864/just-how-much-malware-is-on-free-porn-sites-.html?%23tk.out_mod?=obinsite 03:31:39 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT2QzLam2eQ 03:33:28 *** hashberry (hashberry@cryto-6FAB2F65.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) has joined #crytocc 03:34:39 *** hashberry has quit (User quit: Leaving) 03:38:08 .title 03:38:10 joepie92: Ayhan SİCİMOGLU - Istanbul Pas Costantinople - YouTube 03:38:11 tommykaine: not impressed 03:38:20 it links to an article on "security" 03:38:29 that A. uses the term "PC" when they mean "Windows" 03:38:53 and B. primarily recommends installing an antivirus, which is EXACTLY the ONE thing that's NOT going to save your ass when an ad network gets infected 03:39:09 because those are almost always drive-by's that AVs don't protect against yet 03:40:11 nom nom nom 03:40:16 my video is song 03:40:21 cute french cover of old song 03:40:56 not as cute as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0KWyWwVp0E but meh 03:55:00 :) 03:55:20 :) 03:55:50 Joepie92 i did not really read it just heading and few paragrpahs :P 04:08:46 godfuckingdamnit. 04:08:46 http://torrentfreak.com/russias-facebook-prepares-youtube-style-anti-piracy-filter-131001/ 04:10:27 cayce: https://witness.theguardian.com/assignment/523adb12e4b0107334baad85?INTCMP=mic_230924 04:10:35 also 04:10:37 .title http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/02/revenge-porn-outlawed-california 04:10:38 joepie92: 'Revenge porn' outlawed in California | World news | theguardian.com 04:12:10 http://www.themaninblue.com/images/writing/perspective/2008/08/12/small_talk.gif 04:12:11 every day 04:16:19 awesome 04:16:23 let's see how badly they worded it 04:16:53 hahaha fuck yeah 04:16:57 photographing fonts 04:16:58 < 04:16:59 <3 04:20:50 Heh, ff soundcloud downloader plugin doesn't work, and if you look into dev console, there's "You like to look under the hood? Why not help us build the engine? http://soundcloud.com/jobs" error :P 04:21:16 fuck yeah 04:21:24 <3 sc 04:21:33 and, hmm 04:21:37 not sure about that law 04:21:48 let's see how badly they worded it 04:21:50 I don't know 04:21:50 TEH LAW! 04:21:57 on first read it actually seems like a sane implementation 04:22:04 that doesn't have much misinterpretation/abuse potential 04:22:05 it has obvious horrible free speech creep implications, but I'm not bothered by what they're trying to address 04:22:07 or at least, not as much as normally 04:22:17 when this kind of thing is introduced 04:22:23 yeah 04:22:25 if anything, I'd rate it as "comparatively okay" 04:22:26 we're okay at that 04:22:40 we fuck stuff up sometimes, but CA laws tend to be reasonably worded 04:22:56 the issue is usually when it's not it's like the gun laws around here 04:23:19 which are basically "you thought you could own a gun? you were WRONG" 04:23:44 tommykaine: it is frustrating when people ask me what I do and I respond with "open-source developer" 04:23:59 and people either have a metaphorical question mark appearing above their heads 04:24:24 or they just ignore the "open-source" bit entirely and start asking me questions about my involvement in software that is not at all related to open-source 04:24:37 thankfully more and more people have started to understand what "open-source" means, recently 04:24:45 add more words to change the focus 04:25:17 so things get a bit easier 04:25:21 "I develop open-source software" versus "I'm an open source software developer" 04:25:34 cayce: both give the same result pretty much 04:25:36 least precedence first 04:25:47 but I can't grammar a way to put open source last 04:25:57 I'm a developer working on open-source 04:25:59 done 04:26:07 open-source what 04:26:08 you can omit the 'software' bit at the end 04:26:09 >_> :D 04:26:18 if people understand what open-source means 04:26:21 you can, but if you do anybody honestly asking that question won't know 04:26:22 they will always assume 'software' 04:26:39 if they don't understand what open-source means, then the conversation is mostly pointless to start with 04:26:43 so nothing lost 04:27:06 (because really, try explaining the idea/motivation behind open-source in a minute in smalltalk without ending up in a furious discussion... it's HARD) 04:27:10 I usually respond college student, but that paints me pretty badly too 04:27:16 heh 04:27:19 I have no such cop-outs :) 04:27:31 well, professional college student 04:27:37 which actually means something else 04:27:38 lol 04:27:43 a.. what? 04:28:03 in the US you can work and go to college at the same time 04:28:15 If you're not working, you take more units 04:28:20 hence professional college student 04:28:24 only thing you do is school 04:28:42 I'm taking 16 units right now, the cap is 17 04:28:53 I see 04:28:54 I'm only actually required to take 12 04:29:11 (truly 6, but federal financial aid depends on "full time" status, which is 12 units) 04:29:39 so, professional college student 04:29:40 :) 04:41:03 lol I understand what open source is 04:41:50 i just say what im thinking :P 04:44:20 anyway nap time later! 04:50:27 OVH: "Short for "On Vous Héberge" (English: We Host You) is a global hosting company. Known for their dedicated server line, Kimsufi." 04:50:34 I did not know that OVH was an acronym. 04:52:42 hahahaha 04:52:44 that's a funny word 04:52:52 héberge 04:52:53 hmm 04:54:48 pretty sure it literally means "accomodate" 04:54:56 as in letting someone live at your place 04:55:10 French do strange stuff with internet terms 04:55:26 they also translated Download as Télécharger or however you accentuate it 04:55:40 which literally means "loading remotely" or rather "loading from far away" 04:56:05 yeah 04:56:08 it's like they tried to translate every internet term into oldlanguage 04:56:09 I think of telecharger as like 04:56:18 to shoot electricity at 04:56:18 lol 04:56:18 like, into a familiar concept 04:56:23 lol 04:56:40 not altogether wrong, but totally missing the paradigm shift 04:56:41 lol 04:56:48 haha 04:57:08 "well, it isn't really _wrong_ what you're doing... it's just... sub-optimal./" 04:57:39 oh, by the way, cayce 04:57:43 you were interested in btsync yes? 04:57:49 bittorrent sync stuff 04:57:56 (or is my memory deceiving me?) 04:58:00 like, the concept/tech behind it 04:58:14 because https://github.com/jewel/clearskies 04:58:23 * joepie92 is cleaning out his tabs and shooting off URLs to relevant persons 04:58:29 yes 04:58:38 I use it on my shit 04:59:01 oooh 04:59:04 hot 04:59:17 note that it's still in design phase 04:59:19 protocol spec phase, primarily 04:59:23 but that's the most important thing :) 04:59:37 also, cayce, mind trying something out? 04:59:37 http://typeto.me/tvsv66 05:02:41 :3 05:08:47 *** blackcyber (blackcyber@DC3233BD.32EB728B.EB218043.IP) has joined #crytocc 06:03:06 *** Cryto427 (Cryto427@cryto-90718EA9.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 06:03:13 *** Cryto427 has quit (User quit: Cryto427) 06:05:04 *** pjtyler (pjtyler@cryto-5F06F4F8.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 06:06:26 *** pjtyler has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 06:23:52 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 06:48:34 *** melatonin (melatonin@60F0BC49.9144D476.78C94033.IP) has joined #crytocc 06:49:42 *** melatonin has parted #crytocc (None) 06:52:30 *** Macbeth (Macbeth@Macbeth.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 06:52:32 hello 06:54:21 *** x has quit (Input/output error) 07:08:13 ohai Macbeth 07:15:01 Hey joe 07:15:19 Whut's goain oawn? 07:15:28 not much 07:15:36 What's with the name? 07:15:47 oh, just connection 07:15:49 *** joepie92 is now known as joepie91 07:15:54 Oh, got it 07:15:57 had some issues with VPN over UDP 07:16:04 running it over TCP strangely seems to solve it 07:16:05 for unclear reasons 07:16:13 Just makes me nervous. I always think that ppl are impersonating you. 07:16:15 either way my connection is actually stable now 07:16:17 heh 07:16:27 Macbeth: if in doubt, ask me to verify 07:16:34 and I'll prove access to one of my servers 07:16:34 :p 07:16:38 or similar mechanisms 07:16:39 lulz 07:16:41 a tweet, whatever 07:16:59 Yeah, no need. 07:17:35 no really - when in doubt, do ask for that 07:17:44 Well, alright thanks. 07:17:46 people have tried to impersonate me before 07:17:47 so yeah :P 07:17:57 I will if I'm talking about sensitive things, like the server, 07:18:12 Which reminds me, are we going to host a pow-wow on the radio thing any time soon? 07:19:36 er, I really have to take care of a million other things before that :P 07:19:54 Yeah, I'm not rushing you or anything, just curious :) 07:20:03 Have you ever heard of dropplets? 07:25:11 Macbeth: that very strongly depends on what context it is 07:39:59 It's a blogging platform 08:03:27 Macbeth: link? 08:03:50 *** foolex has quit (Ping timeout) 08:07:04 *** foolex (foolex@5D6B0912.EC145393.9A74EEF1.IP) has joined #crytocc 08:11:47 what. 08:11:49 NIST closed. 08:11:59 dropplets.com 08:13:59 Macbeth: that idea already exists 08:14:01 and has for a long time 08:14:09 I know 08:14:15 I just like dropplets, as a platform 08:14:22 http://siliconangle.com/blog/2012/03/20/5-minimalist-static-html-blog-generators-to-check-out/ 08:18:31 I know 08:18:34 I just like dropplets, as a platform 08:58:38 *** blackcyber has quit (User quit: Page closed) 09:00:11 *** norbert79_xchat (Norbi@cryto-23E6F563.pool.digikabel.hu) has joined #crytocc 09:17:35 *** Macbeth has quit (Ping timeout) 09:19:58 *** Xeross (Xeross@cryto-FB974955.members.linode.com) has joined #crytocc 09:26:45 *** Macbeth (Macbeth@Macbeth.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 09:40:26 *** Macbeth has quit (Ping timeout) 10:13:42 *** realassgee (realassg00@77F068DA.5224D1A6.270DD8AF.IP) has joined #crytocc 10:14:43 *** realassgee has parted #crytocc (None) 10:19:44 *** Gooch (coolstory@86254973.D6CB46C6.D95AF0A6.IP) has joined #crytocc 10:32:18 *** crafy_d (crafy_d@crafyd-08896.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 10:34:05 o/ 10:51:56 *** vld has quit (Ping timeout) 10:54:58 *** vld (vld@vld.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 11:06:20 http://vpsboard.com/topic/2111-proxysh-vpn-provider-sniffed-server-traffic-to-catch-hacker/#entry32760 11:13:21 *** mama (me@cryto-2A9B11DB.amd.co.at) has joined #crytocc 12:05:11 *** norbert79_xchat has quit (Ping timeout) 13:25:58 joepie91:) you know shit's fucked up when you click the X on their popover offer and it STILL takes you to the checkout page. 13:26:19 fuckin' faggety anne 13:33:41 ugh man forums 13:36:08 joepie91:) if you wanna be proud of lighttpd: http://mirrors.rit.edu/ 13:37:17 cayce: where'd that happen? popover? 13:37:27 also, yay 13:37:39 on their site 13:37:57 clicked the cyberghost url 13:38:08 oh 13:38:08 haha 13:38:14 cyberghost is fucky 13:38:16 in many many ways 13:38:16 I think it's not technically a popover, but I don't know what to call it 13:38:21 modal 13:38:26 oh, okay 13:38:33 cyberghost vpn = shit 13:38:35 but really, screw cyberghost 13:38:41 I hate them as much as I hate popovers 13:38:49 GHOSTnew: well aware 13:38:50 such a horrible ui pattern 13:38:55 there's a reason they have such a bad re 13:38:57 rep * 13:39:07 actually, there are many reasons :| 13:39:39 anyway :) 13:39:52 want to falcon punch modals off internet 13:40:02 along with popups, popovers, popunders 13:40:12 just cause you do it in fucking jquery doesn't make it okay 13:40:38 lol 13:40:44 it reminds me of soundcloud's new auth system 13:40:48 modals can be okay 13:40:50 emphasis on 'can' 13:40:52 which has made me almost stop using sc 13:40:54 usually they're not 13:41:09 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 13:41:43 cayce: I like how Xenforo does stuff 13:41:48 and how buyincoins used to do stuff 13:41:51 slide-out page headers 13:41:54 for login etc. 13:42:11 doesn't take over your browser/page, doesn't waste screen space 13:42:24 neat 13:42:38 I liked old-version bootstrap putting the login/pass in the menubar 13:42:59 might still, dunno 13:47:35 wow, this is offensive: http://www.zdnet.com/sf-us-craigslist-awash-in-fallacious-scientology-depression-counseling-ads-7000021451/ 13:50:32 hahaha 13:50:40 it's cute to see people try to corner the market from LEB 13:59:00 .tw https://twitter.com/intentionally/status/385403379754598400 13:59:01 People already traveling down a road should not concern themselves with people who tell them that the road doesn't exist. (@intentionally) 13:59:29 .tw .tw 13:59:30 vld: Give me a link, a username, or a tweet id 14:00:24 .ghstart 14:00:25 ! 14:00:27 no? 14:00:41 .startgh 14:00:43 KeyError: 'repository' (file "/home/phenny/phenny/modules/github.py", line 48, in parse_github_feed) 14:01:03 botpie91, tell joepie91 to fix you. 14:01:04 vld: I'll pass that on when joepie91 is around. 14:02:31 what in the hell 14:02:32 joepie91: 14:01Z tell joepie91 to fix you. 14:05:03 *** fanat1ck (fanat1ck@cryto-55407DCE.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 14:06:25 *** fanat1ck has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 14:17:48 awsome 14:17:53 owned fucking everything 14:17:54 http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/10/data-broker-hackers-also-compromised-nw3c/ 14:20:31 hasn't krebson died already 14:22:54 brian krebs? no 14:23:12 the site 14:23:13 awh tom clancy died 14:23:26 vld:) who are you talking about 14:26:25 .startgh 14:26:27 KeyError: 'repository' (file "/home/phenny/phenny/modules/github.py", line 48, in parse_github_feed) 14:26:29 what the fuck 14:28:19 ;( 14:28:59 Clancy was better part of simple books than crap like 50sg or twilight 14:30:18 wth 14:30:21 I loved the netops series 14:30:23 vld: https://paste.icetwy.re/paste/yGpfOvce#TMI2FErjB8Evrww4YMXfD7RjK0JE45BLZP4Efi39ASc= 14:30:25 these failed 14:30:35 the last one is especially odd 14:30:39 that should have a repository entry?! 14:31:13 haxed 14:31:28 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03phenny on branch 10master: '02Fix bug in GitHub module' (https://github.com/joepie91/phenny/compare/684bbfaa2e...e97e2df880) 14:31:30 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03phenny on branch 10master: '02Fix bug in GitHub module' (https://github.com/joepie91/phenny/compare/684bbfaa2e...e97e2df880) 14:31:59 .reload 14:32:03 ok fuck it 14:32:08 *** botpie91 has quit (Client exited) 14:32:14 *** botpie91 (botpie91@5C4B2CE4.B8E60B3B.FD9B6484.IP) has joined #crytocc 14:32:16 .startgh 14:32:18 Now watching GitHub for users joepie91, iceTwy, FichteFoll, cam1337, codetalkdev, shiny. 14:32:20 there 14:32:20 fixed 14:32:42 botpie91, ask iceTwy why he changed from zerobin to 0bin 14:32:43 joepie91: I'll pass that on when iceTwy is around. 14:33:49 0bin is aes-256 (not) :P 14:34:01 MK_FG: mm? elaborate.. 14:34:31 Just a long-running joke about all pastebins that came after sebsauvage.net 14:34:52 I actually think 0bin was before sebsauvage 14:34:53 They all claim to be aes-256, and 0bin even says that in the top header, right? 14:34:55 but regardless 14:34:58 I don't get the joke :P 14:34:58 yes 14:35:04 both sebsauvage and 0bin do 14:35:09 But they all use sjcl lib 14:35:23 WHich doesn't have aes-256, just simple aes, 128bit ;) 14:35:29 haha what 14:35:47 And they use plain aes, all I've seen, yet repeat that aes-256 thing ;) 14:35:53 "SJCL is secure. It uses the industry-standard AES algorithm at 128, 192 or 256 bits; the SHA256 hash function; the HMAC authentication code; the PBKDF2 password strengthener; and the CCM and OCB authenticated-encryption modes. " 14:35:59 ? 14:36:11 https://crypto.stanford.edu/sjcl/ 14:36:52 http://bitwiseshiftleft.github.io/sjcl/doc/symbols/sjcl.cipher.aes.html 14:37:09 And not even that, actually 14:37:28 They use this - http://bitwiseshiftleft.github.io/sjcl/doc/symbols/src/core_convenience.js.html 14:37:34 so, if SJCL doesn't do AES 256, why does the frontpage say it does? 14:39:08 No, it actually seem to allow aes-256 now, apparently 14:39:29 When I've looked before, I don't recall seeing 8-word keys there 14:39:37 Or anything but 4-word 14:39:42 Which is 32*4=128 14:39:48 updates, updates, updates! 14:39:50 :P 14:40:45 https://github.com/sametmax/0bin/blob/master/zerobin/static/js/behavior.js#L68 14:41:06 So anyway, here's how 0bin does it, and that's def. 128 14:41:15 ow. 14:41:39 And sebsauvage uses just .encrypt() too, and everything 14:42:00 why?! 14:42:35 It's a cool thing, actually - does pbkdf2 from password and aes-ccm under the hood 14:42:54 Easy to use, no need to know about all these underneath 14:43:11 But I think it was just copy-pasted from whatever initial zerobin implementation ;) 14:43:34 Which I thought was sebsauvage, given that it seem to be most widely-used for some reason 14:44:23 probably because lolhackernews 14:44:35 https://github.com/sebsauvage/ZeroBin/blob/master/js/zerobin.js#L115 <-- also same .encrypt() with default ks:128 and cipher:aes 14:45:18 Yet http://sebsauvage.net/wiki/doku.php?id=php:zerobin#features - AES-256 :P 14:46:29 It probably says something significant about how crypto is used in practice... 14:46:39 MK_FG: perhaps create a github issue? 14:46:45 I did for 0bin 14:47:00 result? 14:47:27 Acked, but lazy to do PR for all docs and dev seem busy enough 14:51:53 :| 14:52:10 Yeah, I'm a part of the problem 14:52:43 But it looks like a cool thing to follow: "aes-256-claim all the things!" ;) 14:53:21 "copy-paste crypto, no need to think or look if it actually just does base64!" :P 15:00:26 joepie91: Got any feedback on Twitter with regards to that back-up provider? 15:00:49 Xeross: nope :| 15:01:00 oh, MK_FG, perhaps you can cast your opinion on them 15:01:20 .tw https://twitter.com/joepie91/status/385321291122630656 15:01:21 Anyone have experience with https://www.cyphertite.com/ backup service? Open-source client, claim high security, but strange/unpleasant TOS. (@joepie91) 15:01:25 also cc zxcvbnm 15:01:35 joepie91: they do look interesting IMO 15:01:48 Xeross: yes, but their TOS make me iffy 15:01:59 Haven't heard of that one before, I think 15:02:01 it doesn't seem to fit into their supposed attitude towards things 15:02:17 joepie91: contact them and ask them to clarify and possibly amend their TOS? 15:02:34 https://www.cyphertite.com/open-source.php <-- where's my github link!? 15:03:20 Just tarball dumps is technically open-source 15:03:30 But it's not what I'd call that 15:03:44 git clone https://opensource.conformal.com/git/$pkg.git || 15:03:47 from their git installer 15:03:51 sec 15:04:02 CT_PKGS="clens clog assl xmlsd shrink exude cyphertite" 15:04:02 for pkg in $CT_PKGS; do 15:04:07 so, those repos 15:04:57 Oh yeah, they have links in https://opensource.conformal.com/wiki/cyphertite indeed 15:05:02 * joepie91 blinks 15:05:06 they develop on master branch? 15:05:27 http://owely.com/3RJMNf 15:05:41 also http://owely.com/1DVuSV 15:08:00 Yeah, it's just their site that gives bad impression 15:08:38 In code comments they cound from 0 :P 15:08:48 MK_FG: hmm 15:08:49 ? 15:08:58 "* unlocking:" "* 0. get rounds" "* 1. take the passphrase key and decrypt the mask key" ... :P 15:09:21 And it's all step-by-step lists in code comments, it seems 15:09:39 haha 15:11:28 "ct_passphrase_decrypt(uint8_t *key, size_t keylen, uint8_t *src," "return (ct_crypto_crypt(EVP_aes_256_ecb(), key, keylen, NULL, 0, src," <----- ECB!? WTF!?!? 15:12:17 isn't that the one where it's far too easy to detect patterns? 15:13:01 Yeah 15:13:28 I've even seen a t-shirt dedicated to its crappiness somewhere on twitter 15:13:55 http://t.co/FPLrHidOq3 15:14:38 MK_FG: hehe 15:15:23 Anfter noon peeps 15:15:47 They seem to use xts in other places though 15:16:25 https://github.com/conformal/cyphertite 15:16:52 file an issue! 15:18:20 "scalable solution"? 15:18:36 What does that even mean for centralized upload service? 15:21:23 what is this go language 15:21:41 looks like a bad scripting language 15:23:35 "... cyphertite(1), the client that provides a privacy-driven encrypted remote archive." :P 15:25:25 "upload_crypto_secrets = 1" 15:26:01 Can't think why ecb would be so bad as to leak such a short string though 15:26:15 But I kinda worry about these fellows 15:28:35 They do pbkdf2 to get key for aes-256-ecb though, with 256000 rounds 15:28:38 MK_FG: what would your judgment be so far? 15:28:52 I wonder why they replicate LUKS 15:29:20 Like, you can take libcryptsetup, which is widely-verified, has stable format and all that 15:29:21 isn't LUKS for encrypted filesystems, rather than encrypted files? 15:29:32 (plus, LUKS won't work on Windows and such will it?) 15:29:55 Hm, yeah, that's a good point about windows, maybe it won't build there 15:30:48 But not only fs, libcryptsetup allows to just do luks encryption and later key management for whatever data 15:31:33 Why they even provide a service then? 15:31:59 I mean, you take their crypto thing and you get encrypted data out of it 15:32:15 Why not just upload it to whatever dropbox, skydrive, google drive afetrwards? 15:32:35 provide a service to make monies? :) 15:32:37 also, http://i.imgur.com/ci17MeO.jpg 15:33:11 The thing seem to keep db cache there for what to upload, doesn't query remote for dedup afaict 15:33:46 But didn't see anything to get data out of it and not uploaded, of course 15:33:53 Which yeah, makes sense for monies 15:34:05 But meh 15:34:34 Do some rsync/mksquashfs, then crypt it and upload in one script 15:34:57 Done, same backup solution, known dedup, compression and whatever properties 15:35:07 And you can use much cheaper upstream clouds 15:35:11 Like, even free ones 15:35:24 And no that sketchy ecb thing 15:36:37 (guess I could've worded last line better, don't see much wrong with what they do there, just weird why do that if we have much wider-used things with lots more features and such) 15:42:36 *** norbert79_xchat (Norbi@cryto-23E6F563.pool.digikabel.hu) has joined #crytocc 15:46:53 *** Macbeth (Macbeth@Macbeth.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 15:48:16 Actually, it all probably makes sense for windows or people who don't care about writing bash ;) 15:49:29 http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/2/4794780/fbi-seizes-underground-drug-market-silk-road-owner-indicted-in-new 15:49:30 .title 15:49:31 joepie91: FBI seizes underground drug market Silk Road, owner indicted in New York | The Verge 15:52:39 hmmm 15:52:40 What free webhosts do you al think are the best? 15:52:43 Is going after masked citizens that do distribution even makes sense? 15:52:46 * all 15:52:52 000website.com Huehuehuehue 15:52:57 Sucks 15:53:03 Huehuehuehuehue 15:53:14 heh haw heh haw heh haw heh haw heh haw 15:53:15 the best free webhost 15:53:17 is your self 15:53:23 install xampp 15:53:27 Macbeth: none 15:53:28 and no 15:53:30 and your the best free webhost ever 15:53:32 xampp is a fucking terrible idea 15:53:34 for public serving pages 15:53:39 xampp was designed for dev machinse 15:53:41 machines * 15:53:54 Well i dont know he requirements 15:54:05 he asks for a webhost, obviously that doesn't mean local dev 15:54:22 :3 15:54:40 Its a dev channel :3 15:54:46 dev host 15:54:50 wait 15:54:53 thats it 15:54:56 devhost 15:55:01 i saw them some where 15:55:14 they provide free webhosting for dev's 15:55:20 I can't run a server off of my PC 15:55:21 something like 100mb space and shit 15:55:26 It would crash with 2 users joining... 15:56:46 Large clouds like aws seem to provide free vps'es for long periods, like a year 15:57:13 Google appengine I think doesn't even have a time limit 16:02:20 Macbeth: don't host from home 16:02:24 Macbeth: what do you need it for? 16:02:27 Naturally, ha ha 16:02:41 Just some webdesign that I've been doing lately with Js and HTML 16:02:45 Retro 16:03:22 It bother's be when setting up FTP accounts, makes you set up a directory, and you can't just set it up to go right to the website. 16:10:57 my god 16:11:00 this company takes forever 16:11:18 What? Cryto? 16:11:36 Cryto Enterprises Inc. 16:11:54 (secret rulers of the world, you know) 16:12:06 *** aLLamox (aLLamoox@717984DE.790A4B77.E1DAE158.IP) has joined #crytocc 16:12:35 And some of the best private programmers BD 16:14:19 when a support ticket has been only for 5+ days with no replies 16:14:36 You could have come to the IRC... 16:16:06 Be back in a few. I'm reststarting so I can rename some files that aren't letting me 16:16:22 *** crafy_d has quit (User quit: Viva la revolución ☭ o/) 16:17:29 *** Macbeth has quit (User quit: macb37h.wordpress.com) 16:26:00 *** Macbeth (Macbeth@Macbeth.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 16:27:18 *** mama (me@cryto-DFEC3329.snydernet.net) has joined #crytocc 16:29:17 I'm gonna go with GetSimple CMS 16:29:49 Tried wordpress but it was huge, and the webserver was sorta complaining, also it is so widely used, I wanted to do something mre light weight 16:31:12 Macbeth: what's "also it is so widely used" doing in that sentence? 16:46:12 Macbeth, If you go for a blog, try one of these static site generation things 16:47:24 And come to think of it, you can actually host that on github for free 16:51:48 *** Macbeth has quit (Ping timeout) 17:04:07 http://www.divamap.com/ 17:04:08 +2 17:09:30 i need more coffee 17:19:40 *** joepie91 has quit (Ping timeout) 18:08:28 *** tintin has quit (Ping timeout) 18:10:22 *** tintin (tintin@BC528341.BC88B0C2.A27E456C.IP) has joined #crytocc 18:15:34
 $null[15]= ('0'==null);
18:15:34  echo((0)?" function null() ":'null()');
18:15:34  $f= "". /* { */"\n\t".''.
18:15:34  '/* Not a' /* Not a function */ .' '.$n;/**/
18:15:34  $zero=1;/* } while(1){}*/
18:15:34  $ns="\x27 ".PHP_EOL;/*
18:15:36  */$notafunction="\n".'}';$x=2;while($x){$x--;$f=str_replace(" ","",$f);}$f="\n{".$f;echo $f.'';/**/;
18:15:37  $x670='notafuncti0n';$printf=$x670;if($null[15]){echo"";}echo $$x670.$notafunction;/* opsftw - Tux. */?>
18:15:40  lol
18:39:34  pastebin.com ... lol
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18:41:47  o/
18:42:07 *** anonacryto (anonacryto@AE84FE68.2800477A.52CDB6C9.IP) has joined #crytocc
18:43:36  is this the channel for questions?
18:45:31  is anyone actively on here even?
18:47:05  Yes, we are around, just quiet
18:47:23  oh ok, could I possibly ask you a question?
18:47:32  or a few
18:48:05  Just ask, anyone with answers will reply for sure
18:48:46 *** Shi-Ita (Shi-Ita@cryto-105D9F5B.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc
18:49:05  what exactly is an introducer NODE furl?
18:49:46  or a  Furl
18:55:21  nobody?
18:55:23  furl?
18:55:52  concerning tahoe-lafs
18:56:01  Furl (from File Uniform Resource Locators) was a free social bookmarking website that allowed members to store searchable copies of webpages and share them
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19:04:07  silkroad got raided
19:04:12 *** Macbeth (Macbeth@Macbeth.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc
19:04:24  Yeah
19:04:27  Thanks guys
19:04:33  I'm using bugs3.com
19:10:30  heh, I wouldn't have know the answer to that
19:10:42  What?
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19:11:06 *** aLLamox has quit (Ping timeout)
19:11:19  nvm Macbeth 
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19:20:23  .bitcoin
19:20:24  1 BTC = $114.10, 1 BTC = €91.01
19:20:55  botpie91 is so useful
19:23:01  riding the wave down
19:37:01  dafq
19:37:14  PARJM@SGABSXK.com sent me  text message...
19:37:19  im totally mindfucked
19:38:01  It appears to be a mastercard scam, time to have fun with this.
19:38:15  I always go
19:38:16  * do
19:41:58  # which it wants me to call is a VoIP phone in Orange Park, FL
19:42:12  well, time to call bomb them
19:42:19 * Macbeth is away: macb37h.wordpress.com
19:42:41 * Zoned hates away messages: they suck
19:44:36 * Macbeth doesn't care all that much
19:45:49 * Zoned implys you care a bit.
19:53:04 * Macbeth is still not that effected
19:53:17  .bitcoin
19:53:18  1 BTC = $112.94, 1 BTC = €92.83
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19:54:15  cayce: so like, went to the gym
19:54:16  iceTwy: 14:32Z  ask iceTwy why he changed from zerobin to 0bin
19:54:26  ah
19:54:28  for the fun of it
19:57:13  .bitcoin
19:57:14  1 BTC = $112.94, 1 BTC = €92.83
19:57:31  $112?
19:57:53  gox is on the rebound
19:57:56  aye, 24h avg is $125
19:58:07  best bid's currently at $127
20:07:55  joepie gone to bed
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20:19:01  silky!
20:19:02  no!!!
20:21:40  http://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/silkroadseize.png
20:21:41  -,-
20:25:57  DrWhat, Actually, it's foolscap url in tahoe context
20:26:42  Which is something like pb://@:/
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21:23:18  .btc
21:23:21  .bitcoin
21:23:22  1 BTC = $111.51, 1 BTC = €93.40
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22:11:07  my irc server is finally working again
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23:08:48  Hello
23:08:54  hai
23:08:59  Hey Zoned
23:09:09  sup 
23:09:22  Naught too much.
23:09:28  I'm doing some HTML
23:09:38  I havn't in a while, and it's sorta fun
23:10:19  lol nice
23:10:35  Ha ha thanks
23:10:39  What languages do you know?
23:10:43  (programming)
23:23:13  a lot
23:23:14  why?
23:24:45  Just wondering.
23:24:47  And c00l
23:25:02  a know a shitton of programming languages lmfao
23:25:04  1|_|1s
23:25:09  ha ha ha
23:26:43  anyone got a ss of sr seized?
23:26:47  2 lazy to open it
23:30:28 * Macbeth is away: macb37h.wordpress.com
23:31:15  lol
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