01:10:44 *** living_on_your_wage (living_on_@cryto-E395F283.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #crytocc 01:21:05 *** living_on_your_wage has quit (User quit: Quitte) 01:24:28 *** LOCKNESS_MONSTER (OHHAI@LOCKNESSMONSTER-08904.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 01:25:00 *** LOCKNESS_MONSTER has parted #crytocc () 01:28:15 *** ElectRo` has quit (Ping timeout) 01:28:20 *** living_on_your_wage (living_on_@cryto-E395F283.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #crytocc 01:43:55 *** Sprinbit (nobody@F692ADA3.C62D67A7.404FEFB4.IP) has joined #crytocc 01:46:57 *** Sprinbit has quit (Ping timeout) 02:05:04 *** fanat1ck (fanat1ck@cryto-B5F058F7.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 02:06:25 *** fanat1ck has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 02:20:25 *** Thor (numz@cryto-945C1394.de) has joined #crytocc 02:30:31 so: what are you waiting for ? 02:30:33 *** pzuraq has quit (Connection reset by peer) 02:30:46 is the S&P500 gonna crash tomorrow? 02:30:53 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-D2623541.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 02:30:54 now THAT's a big question 02:31:07 no reason for it to crash 02:31:42 thanks for telling me if I'm making too much noise here 02:33:36 echo 02:33:45 [echo] 02:34:01 say 02:34:08 nothing 02:37:23 what I like on this channel is that you can hear your own voice 02:38:05 BTW I'm glad I've bought a new bluetooth headset 02:38:31 shitty wealthy country that is 02:38:34 France 02:38:54 *** Elazar (ooo@Elazar.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 02:39:11 *** Elazar has quit (User quit: leaving) 02:39:33 shite sry I thought I was on anonnews 02:39:42 sry for the inconvenience 02:39:47 *** pzuraq_ (pzuraq@cryto-D2623541.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 02:40:42 *** pzuraq has quit (Connection reset by peer) 02:41:14 *** Anonymous (levimowrer@cryto-A1F670EF.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 02:41:31 What is this channel for ? 02:43:25 *** pzuraq_ has quit (Connection reset by peer) 02:46:13 *** Sprinbit (nobody@F692ADA3.C62D67A7.404FEFB4.IP) has joined #crytocc 02:47:16 anyone here? 02:50:03 *** Anonymous has parted #crytocc (None) 02:50:53 not me 02:51:12 go on anonnews if it's for talking about nothing in particular 03:01:21 *** iceTwy has quit (User quit: Disconnecting from server) 03:06:58 *** Leaf (Foo@cryto-E2353A09.inolok.broadband.dynamic.tds.net) has joined #crytocc 03:07:19 *** Sprinbit has quit (Client exited) 03:07:43 *** IgnisInCaelum has quit (Ping timeout) 03:09:10 *** Leaf is now known as IgnisInCaelum 03:27:06 *** Sprinbit (nobody@F692ADA3.C62D67A7.404FEFB4.IP) has joined #crytocc 03:35:16 *** Sprinbit has quit (Ping timeout) 03:36:37 *** Sprinbit (nobody@F692ADA3.C62D67A7.404FEFB4.IP) has joined #crytocc 03:37:13 *** Thor has quit (User quit: Quitte) 03:39:46 *** Sprinbit has quit (Ping timeout) 03:42:06 *** Goochy has quit (Ping timeout) 03:46:37 *** Zekka has quit (Connection reset by peer) 03:47:34 *** Zekka (zekka@cryto-51547254.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #crytocc 04:10:35 *** ShadowDemonX (ShadowDemo@D22FC353.ECD3B134.2C106139.IP) has joined #crytocc 04:12:49 *** ShadowDemon has quit (Ping timeout) 04:23:26 YAY 04:23:31 NIST AUDIT: STARTED 04:23:35 http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/11/to-restore-credibility-nist-will-audit-its-standards-development-process/ 04:23:59 key line 04:24:06 ”Based on the public comments and independent review, we will update our process as necessary to make sure it meets our goals for openness and transparency, and leads to the most secure, trustworthy guidance practicable,” NIST stated. It also promised to reevaluate its current cryptographic standards in light of its audit of the standards development process. 04:24:41 audit process -> audit things created under old process -> win 04:42:44 *** ShadowDemonX is now known as ShadowDemon 04:43:51 Interesting 04:47:54 *** Anonymous922 (Anonymous9@cryto-F50ABF08.mullvad.net) has joined #crytocc 04:51:29 *** living_on_your_wage has quit (User quit: Quitte) 04:52:46 *** Sprinbit (nobody@F692ADA3.C62D67A7.404FEFB4.IP) has joined #crytocc 04:54:37 *** Sprinbit has quit (Client exited) 04:56:00 *** Anonymous922 has quit (User quit: Leaving) 05:02:11 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-D2623541.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 05:10:57 *** pzuraq has quit (Connection reset by peer) 05:11:17 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-D2623541.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 05:13:00 *** pzuraq has quit (Connection reset by peer) 05:16:16 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-D2623541.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 05:19:16 *** pzuraq_ (pzuraq@cryto-D2623541.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 05:19:17 *** pzuraq has quit (Connection reset by peer) 05:19:55 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-D2623541.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 05:19:56 *** pzuraq_ has quit (Connection reset by peer) 05:20:54 *** Ari has quit (User quit: Leaving) 05:21:42 *** pzuraq has quit (Input/output error) 05:22:04 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-D2623541.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 05:23:10 *** pzuraq_ (pzuraq@cryto-D2623541.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 05:24:59 Silly PizzaRack, fighting with peer again 05:25:07 *** pzuraq has quit (Ping timeout) 05:31:46 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-D2623541.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 05:31:46 *** pzuraq_ has quit (Connection reset by peer) 05:36:32 *** ElectRo` (x@cryto-CF95923E.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 05:42:55 *** Sprinbit (nobody@F692ADA3.C62D67A7.404FEFB4.IP) has joined #crytocc 05:45:25 *** Sprinbit has quit (Client exited) 05:56:50 *** botpie91 has quit (Ping timeout) 06:08:55 *** LastOneStanding (lalalala@5C0B2CEF.B458528D.147E7205.IP) has joined #crytocc 06:15:39 *** Macbeth (Macbeth@Macbeth.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 06:17:52 *** pzuraq has quit (Input/output error) 06:18:13 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-D2623541.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 06:20:50 *** x (foobar@cryto-4ABAF172.as5577.net) has joined #crytocc 06:21:19 *** pzuraq has quit (Ping timeout) 06:26:04 *** Sprinbit (nobody@F692ADA3.C62D67A7.404FEFB4.IP) has joined #crytocc 06:32:53 *** Sprinbit has quit (Client exited) 06:47:08 *** ShadowDemon has quit (User quit: Leaving) 06:47:40 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 06:50:20 *** x_ (foobar@cryto-4ABAF172.as5577.net) has joined #crytocc 06:51:21 *** x has quit (Ping timeout) 06:55:50 *** Zekka (zekka@Zekka.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 12:21:38 *** loggy (loggy@5C4B2CE4.B8E60B3B.FD9B6484.IP) has joined #crytocc 12:21:38 Topic for #crytocc is: Cryto Coding Collective | THIS IS A PUBLICALLY LOGGED CHANNEL. http://wire.cryto.net/logs | http://cryto.net/, http://forums.cryto.net/ | Rules: no Anonymous, no cracking, no drama | Now, with more dpk! | Cryto Research: http://research.cryto.net/ | RIP Aaron Swartz 12:21:38 Users on #crytocc: loggy joepie93 Okapi GHOSTnew iceTwy Zekka LastOneStanding ElectRo` IgnisInCaelum foolex staticsafe tintin lysobit norbert79 nox &MK_FG truetravesty LapAnon connor exakto captaino1vious @SpaghettiCode cayce aHlTat zxcvbnm Asad vld d0wn|off IR601 12:21:55 *** botpie91 (botpie91@5C4B2CE4.B8E60B3B.FD9B6484.IP) has joined #crytocc 12:21:57 joepie93: what does botpie91 run on 12:22:05 phenni, jenny? 12:22:06 phenny 12:22:10 phenny* 12:22:12 hmph 12:22:14 phenny is old 12:22:20 iceTwy: as is Linux 12:22:29 why not use willie? it's a fork of jenny (which is itself a fork of phenny) 12:22:31 it works wonders 12:22:35 Linux panics all the time too :P 12:22:38 lawl 12:22:44 iceTwy: why would I? 12:22:50 joepie93: so that it stops breaking 12:23:04 well at least if that's related to phenny 12:23:08 how does using a fork make it stop breaking? 12:23:17 erm 12:23:21 code improvements? 12:23:35 that's a bullshit blanket answer and you know it 12:23:42 hell no, boy 12:23:46 well maybe 12:23:51 unless you know what is making it break, and know that it is fixed in a fork, it's bullshit to say "hey run this fork instead" 12:24:03 because you don't actually KNOW whether the fork suffers from the same issues or not 12:24:17 but you do get to know it quickly 12:24:23 if you test the fork for a few days 12:24:25 ;) 12:24:30 I think you still have better chances with developed fork than few-year-old abandonware in general 12:24:33 sure, add more shit to my todo list 12:24:40 it's not as if I wasn't busy already 12:24:44 :| 12:24:57 joepie93: hmm, willie is just a 'pip install willie' 12:24:57 who, piebusy? 12:24:57 nevvah! 12:24:59 "HEY GO SPEND TIME ON SWITCHING TO THIS FORK AND MAKING SURE ALL MODULES ARE COMPATIBLE, MAYBE IT'LL FIX YOUR PROBLEM" 12:25:04 iceTwy... 12:25:07 I have custom modules 12:25:10 !!!!!!!!!!!! 12:25:14 I feel spammy today 12:25:17 joepie93: alright 12:25:29 vld: 11! 12:25:33 iceTwy: "hey go try $alternative" is almost never a valid answer to something breaking 12:25:35 regardless of topic 12:25:41 especially not if you're talking to busypie 12:25:45 lol 12:26:01 goddamn, scraping this group is taking forever 12:26:05 joepie93: that statement isn't exactly true 12:26:17 go try Linux is an answer to Windows 12:26:23 iceTwy: read what I said again 12:26:24 * iceTwy fanboy 12:26:26 you didn't read it well enough 12:26:34 my point stands, still 12:26:41 no, not really 12:26:41 but that's my opinion heh 12:26:48 there are no points left that stand 12:27:00 I wouldn't spend lightyears running a broken software 12:27:12 the "just install willie" was a silly suggestion given the circumstances, and my remark about valid answers explicitly said "almost never" so you didn't have a point there either 12:27:14 [/thread] 12:27:25 ? 12:27:31 argh 12:27:31 iceTwy 12:27:32 READ 12:27:35 seriously 12:27:47 erm 12:28:06 well anyway 12:28:13 doesn't phenny have logs? that'd be a good start 12:28:48 it does not have any error logs regarding this issue, and I'll investigate what is making it break after I'm done being so stupid busy 12:29:09 until then, I'll just SSH in and restart it when it breaks once every 2 weeks or so 12:29:17 which takes 5 seconds 12:31:48 oh also joepie93 12:31:54 do you have any feedback on Iniz 12:32:05 apparently they've been voted top #3 by LEB 12:32:11 and thier plans are cheap and amazing 12:32:25 yes, I avoid them because of their TOS and the non-caringness of the owner about interpreting/explaining/changing/clarifying them 12:32:47 well, their TOS are rather common by the looks of it 12:32:52 not exactly 12:32:52 as in, similar to a lot of other hosts' 12:32:54 no? 12:33:35 - Torrents (Personal usage is fine if usage is low) 12:33:35 Our servers are located in the Netherlands & USA and therefore you must comply with the national laws applicable to online services as to where your service is based (we follow US jurisdiction for US services and EU/Netherlands for Amsterdam). As a result torrents, torrent trackers, warez linking/hosting, rapidleech and other such services is prohibited on our servers. Any accounts found hosting such content will be suspended or terminated 12:33:45 A. this doesn't make sense and is contradictory 12:33:57 B. this prohibits legal torrents and suggests that all torrents are illegal 12:34:01 (just one example) 12:34:14 well yeah that bit looked weird 12:34:24 iceTwy: I've approached him about this 12:34:29 he basically didn't care 12:34:33 and refused to fix/clarify 12:34:33 lawl 12:34:36 that was the end of it for me 12:34:39 so yeah 12:34:41 alright 12:34:46 no idea about their actual services 12:36:10 joepie93: their billing service is annoying though 12:36:19 I'm trying to order and it's labelling my orders 'fraud' 12:36:24 so I can't continue/pay 12:36:29 >_> 12:45:33 *** crytoweb554 (crytoweb55@56459D92.DFAE4266.2B55CD95.IP) has joined #crytocc 12:54:09 just ran across a very impressive throttling mechanism 12:54:10 on hyves 12:54:13 always get throttled every 60 requests, with a 0.25 sleep it shitcans me for 40 secs, with a 0.5 sleep it shitcans me for 20 12:54:36 it seems to base throttle duration on request rate 12:54:42 and it's extremely consistent 12:55:38 60 reqs? good luck with archiving that 12:57:06 iceTwy: eh, this is a piece of cake 12:57:08 compared to isohunt 12:57:08 lol 12:57:27 they shitcanned you for 20 MINUTES when you exceeded like 1 req/sec 12:58:54 *** crytoweb554 has parted #crytocc () 12:59:36 *** iceTwy has quit (Ping timeout) 13:04:51 *** Okapi has quit (Ping timeout) 13:07:03 *** zxcvbnm has quit (Ping timeout) 13:09:01 *** zxcvbnm (zxcvbnm@9F88BA40.33FD1BC3.D4256504.IP) has joined #crytocc 14:03:30 *** Sprinbit (nobody@F692ADA3.C62D67A7.404FEFB4.IP) has joined #crytocc 14:06:58 *** exakto has quit (User quit: Konversation terminated!) 14:13:08 *** Sprinbit has quit (Client exited) 14:16:23 *** harkor (harkor@harkor.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 14:23:46 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@cryto-610769D0.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #crytocc 14:23:51 what the actual 14:23:53 http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/10/meet-badbios-the-mysterious-mac-and-pc-malware-that-jumps-airgaps/ 14:23:55 .title 14:23:56 iceTwy: Meet “badBIOS,” the mysterious Mac and PC malware that jumps airgaps | Ars Technica 14:24:05 "badBIOS," as Ruiu dubbed the malware, has the ability to use high-frequency transmissions passed between computer speakers and microphones to bridge airgaps. 14:24:09 *** Goochy (coolstory@cryto-1A2EF7CD.oilhost.eu) has joined #crytocc 14:27:41 *** Sprinbit (nobody@F692ADA3.C62D67A7.404FEFB4.IP) has joined #crytocc 14:28:50 It's been trending for like a week, yet no statements from AV firms or anyone else but that guy, fishy 14:29:23 Other infosec people seem to trust him to not be a troll though ;) 14:32:21 *** Sprinbit has quit (Ping timeout) 14:34:47 MK_FG: yeah apparently 14:35:05 MK_FG: well I mean, he's studying into it so at least he's not just throwing claims out there without proofs 14:35:18 but his studies have to be peer-reviewed, so that's about it 14:35:28 however if it happens to be true, heh, that's a heck of a virus 14:36:39 Don't think it was stated anywhere that it replicates itself over any net exploit though 14:36:42 *** terminat0r (terminat0r@1B1EA017.632B5346.58115DA1.IP) has joined #crytocc 14:36:55 So should be kinda isolated to people who pass usb sticks around ;) 14:37:23 MK_FG:) there have been teardowns of it already 14:37:34 both of the premise of the post and everything else 14:37:38 by infosec people 14:37:48 You mean saying that it's untrue? 14:37:55 roughly, yes 14:38:04 Could be, too, I guess 14:38:05 there's more nuance, but I didn't care to read 14:38:16 $searchengine is your friend 14:38:31 That's such a dick move :P 14:39:13 http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/189036-nsa-chief-likely-to-be-stripped-of-cyber-war-powers?utm_content=buffer994b1&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer 14:39:19 oo oh oh ho 14:39:22 the hammer falls 14:41:16 hmm 14:41:23 my teacher is trying to figure out how to "get on twitter" 14:41:27 this will be exciting 14:41:57 her reasoning involved "as a historian..." 14:42:55 MK_FG:) hi yes hello, this is doge http://zachbruggeman.me/dogescript/ 14:44:29 doge script?! 14:44:35 I HAVE TO SEE IT 14:44:48 really really 14:45:06 I have to say, that's one of the only memes in the last few years I enjoy 14:45:22 aside from the "what my friends think I do, what my mother thinks I do, what I actually do" 6 box meme 14:45:49 but I like that one because it applies in most languages 14:46:00 which makes it awesome because I've found them in french and russian and shit 14:49:59 Hm, don't think I encountered that meme before 14:50:27 *** Sprinbit (nobody@CA77739.C62D67A7.404FEFB4.IP) has joined #crytocc 14:55:44 I dunno what its name is, unfortunately (they do all have names, don't they?) 14:58:03 MK_FG:) http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/what-people-think-i-do-what-i-really-do 14:58:23 Oh, no, I meant dodgescript 14:58:43 The latter one is quite common ;) 14:59:15 oh >_> 15:01:37 I love how we have googletagmanager and adobetagmanager now 15:01:52 cause adobe bought an analytics firm 15:08:11 so, did anybody hear about the girl who dressed up as a boston bombing victim for halloween 15:08:32 I can't stop laughing when I say that 15:08:34 *** beowulf (beowulf@beowulf.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 15:08:50 the internet is still having a conniption about it 15:08:57 too soon, miss, too soon 15:12:10 *** Sprinbit has quit (Ping timeout) 15:45:03 NP: [Tape Five - Pantaloons (feat. Yuliet Topaz)] [Tonight Josephine!] [880kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane 15:46:59 soon: linux 3.12 15:49:17 *** terminat0r has quit (Ping timeout) 15:51:08 cayce: watnew in 3.12? 15:51:37 shittons of drivers and small fixes, but more importantly a patch landed for aggressive extent caching for ext4 15:51:52 oo 15:51:55 sweet 15:51:57 link? 15:52:02 whatever the fuck that is, it works around a bug that was baked into ext4's spec, and increases significantly the performance of read heavy loads 15:52:22 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTUwMjg 15:52:23 ooh 15:52:30 faster archive reading maybe? 15:52:36 faster anything reading 15:52:40 faster reading 15:52:57 this box already feels faster now that I'm not on ntfs 15:53:26 when copying files the load is higher, but that's because it's actually copying the file not dribbling data from one disk to another 15:53:33 * cayce swears at ntfs 15:53:49 NTFS IS GUD 4EVA 15:53:50 !111 15:53:58 cayce: have you compiled the kernel yourself? 15:54:07 it's compiling as we speak 15:54:48 and I've compiled the last 5 kernels I've used too 15:54:50 so yeah 15:54:52 it's dick easy 15:57:05 this is a decent guide, but even they overcomplicate it 15:57:06 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild 15:57:36 but I've been making my own .config 15:57:51 so complexity is relative I suppose 16:00:01 I download, extract, copy my .config into the folder, "yes '' | make oldconfig", make -j2 deb-pkg 16:00:03 done 16:00:31 then dpkg -i each of the debs 16:00:33 :) 16:01:44 well that was fast, only 15m for a build 16:02:00 damn thing's done 16:02:01 heh 16:02:14 now I just have to install it tonight and undo the fuckery that is my graphics drivers 16:02:53 NP: [Brenda Boykin - Hard Swing Travellin' Man] [The Art Of Electro Swing] [919kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane 16:07:27 hmm 16:07:35 seems maybe nvidia drivers don't work on 3.12? 16:08:23 I suppose I'll find out tonight >_> 16:09:02 *** LastOneStanding has quit (User quit: you guys, I'm going home.) 16:11:08 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 16:15:16 cayce: is it such a madness to run the mainline version of the kernel on a server 16:15:37 no? 16:15:54 I mean just be conservative about how you build it so you don't brick it 16:16:35 a working server is probably not the place to do make localmodconfig without some sort of remote hands support or recovery console 16:16:50 (that's how I first built this kernel) 16:17:10 (it's why my kernels are 2-3mb instead of 10x that) 16:17:34 hmm 16:17:37 interestang 16:17:38 oh 16:17:41 lol 16:17:48 the kernel provides drivers for wiimotes 16:18:11 such development 16:18:13 very torvalds 16:18:15 wow 16:18:53 :P 16:19:27 also provides drivers for 360 controller 16:20:04 yup 16:20:21 "If you build it, they will come" 16:22:29 it was nice having them in kernel instead of third party 16:27:03 *** beowulf has quit (Ping timeout) 16:29:10 *** beowulf (beowulf@cryto-105D9F5B.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 16:33:45 *** beowulf is now known as help 16:37:25 NP: [Linkin Park - Bleed It Out] [Minutes To Midnight] [997kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane 16:38:02 *** help is now known as beowulf 16:42:29 https://github.com/mk-fg/convergence/issues/1#issuecomment-27699547 Mozilla devs HAET windows :P 16:43:27 *** beowulf has quit (Ping timeout) 17:01:48 *** beowulf (beowulf@cryto-AFBDA927.snydernet.net) has joined #crytocc 17:05:09 *** Zekka (zekka@cryto-BC5C29FC.arizona.edu) has joined #crytocc 17:11:29 *** DrWhat (Snake@DrWhat.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 17:12:31 MK_FG:) has someone tried to make convergence work again? because it was broken for me for months 17:13:24 Heh, well, it always worked for me... 17:13:46 Because of https://github.com/mk-fg/convergence#changes-from-upstream 17:14:00 Basically, it's me who "tried" :P 17:14:19 ahh 17:14:20 And it works fine on linux, but windows is apparently had bad luck 17:14:32 *grammar 17:14:33 it hasn't worked for me on any os 17:14:42 I suspect it's because it doesn't actually support past ff17 17:14:48 Yeah, original fork is abandoned 17:15:01 :| 17:15:18 But my fork should work fine 17:15:30 on linux 17:15:31 :D 17:15:55 Right, mozilla shafted windows addon devs, it seems ;( 17:16:29 excellent 17:16:45 linux master race can begin takeover in 3.. 2.. 1.. 17:17:04 * cayce makes inception noise 17:17:27 * cayce hires morgan freeman to narrate 17:17:30 It's kinda total bullshit, I couldn't really believe that such mature thing as ff could go and say "herp derp, we don't give a fuck, we now ship one set of libs on linux and other on win" 17:17:52 "...and yeah, we know you use them in addons, suck it" 17:18:19 Who does that!? 17:18:41 yeah it's mostly fucked from a cross platform standpoint 17:18:53 I suspect it's much easier to maintain one copy versus two+ 17:19:29 Indeed, it should be! 17:19:44 So why did they made two sets of different stuff... 17:23:49 :/ 17:24:56 My conclusion is that they HAET windows :P 17:26:42 I won't disagree with their haet 17:26:49 but still, it's sort of silly :D 17:39:07 *** mama (me@cryto-88E4AE0C.chrismail.de) has joined #crytocc 17:44:53 *** Macbeth (Macbeth@Macbeth.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 17:44:55 Hey 17:54:03 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 18:01:53 Hello 18:02:48 *** Zekka (zekka@cryto-7C5DD129.arizona.edu) has joined #crytocc 18:04:06 man, today is a shit day 18:04:24 what's the matter? 18:05:31 everything 18:05:36 :| 18:06:17 xD 18:06:19 :( 18:07:56 No bueno 18:08:29 Waiting for my DDG teeshirt to come 18:10:02 *** iceTwy has quit (User quit: Disconnecting from server) 18:23:57 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@cryto-610769D0.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #crytocc 18:43:30 https://github.com/limetext/lime 18:53:32 Anyoe need web ui resources 18:53:36 I found this deal 18:53:37 http://www.inkydeals.com/deal/inkys-free-web-design-bundle-471-premium-resources/ 18:53:43 100% off 18:53:57 DrWhat: thanks for the lime thing, bookmarked 18:54:06 looks like people are finally starting to work on better IDEs/editors 18:54:07 joepie93 no problem :) 18:54:14 Also 18:54:20 first Brackets, now Lime... 18:54:23 http://www.lighttable.com/ 18:54:41 whoa, inky thing is nice also 18:54:50 Ikr 18:55:04 Im googling around for shit 18:55:11 and finding lot of juicy stuff 18:56:26 http://www.inkydeals.com/freebies/ 18:56:33 theres lots a nice looking UI's there 18:56:48 flat UI (metro) Is what im downloading now 19:01:00 * joepie93 downloads ALL THE FREEBIES 19:01:26 bookmarked lighttable also 19:01:53 hm 19:01:56 lighttable is not FOSS? 19:02:25 XD 19:02:39 Now im useful 19:03:28 Lime is accualy Trending today 19:03:34 *** complex (litehode@complex.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 19:03:48 watch and star it 19:03:52 I did 19:04:51 nice link to limetable 19:04:55 looks nice some good stuff 19:05:05 *** eggtimer (eggtimer@cryto-B12FCBD3.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 19:05:52 http://vimeo.com/40281991 19:05:53 .title 19:05:55 Macbeth: Light Table - a new IDE on Vimeo 19:06:26 *** eggtimer has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 19:09:02 DrWhat: https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/a-whole-new-world 19:09:21 O_o 19:09:28 I dont want to distroy my software :( 19:09:30 thats mean 19:09:31 you will want to watch that 19:09:31 :) 19:09:42 I love my software 19:10:00 I would but 19:10:01 you know 19:10:02 http://prntscr.com/21ws1a 19:10:04 ..> 19:10:20 just download it.. 19:10:22 ehm, guys, i think i maybe came up with a.. cool encryption code :P 19:10:28 Why 19:10:30 * joepie93 frowns 19:10:40 complex: incoming warnings and red flags 19:10:46 complex I love cryptograhy :D 19:10:55 don't roll your own production encryption code unless you are an expert at crypto 19:11:01 hacking with it for personal projects is fine 19:11:05 but crypto is very hard to do right 19:11:19 and you should always use established and peer-reviewed libraries for production code 19:11:22 Is it a hashsum? 19:11:23 end warnings and red flags 19:11:25 :) 19:11:53 nist is paying $300,000 to who ever can come up with a secure SHA3 19:11:55 complex: I'm interested 19:12:16 say you have 1 million different irrational numbers with x number of digits. you randomly pick one of them and you are putting two and two digits of that irrational number into an element of an vector. each chunk of two-digits are doing the caesar cipher on one letter 19:12:55 say you are going to encrypt a message containing a letters, then you need irrational numbers of length 2a 19:12:56 aren't caesar ciphers vulnerable to statistical analysis? 19:13:06 Yes 19:13:19 i dont have a clue, caesar ciphers are itself very easy to decrypt 19:13:22 I like encryptions what output numbers :D 19:13:45 I'm just staying w/ PgP 19:14:00 Im messing around with mcrypt 19:14:03 but there are no relation with the letters i mentioned 19:14:15 * in the encryption i mentioned 19:14:20 https://github.com/DrWhatNoName/Stuff/blob/master/cryptest.php 19:14:40 it is really just an extension of the vigeneres cipher, where you are encrypting a text with a tiny vector 19:16:15 DrWhat: Thanks for the inky link. Very useful. 19:16:22 I'm extracting it. 19:16:25 yup 19:17:48 http://www.inkydeals.com/flat-user-interface-set-download/ 19:17:49 encrypt "abcdefgh" using [1,2,3] gives [a+1,b+2,c+3,d+1,e+2,f+3,g+1,h+2] but with my method, for example with pi as a random irrational number, you get [a+31,b+41,c+59,d+26,e+53,f+58,g+97,h+93] 19:17:52 I like this site 19:18:26 of course, you shouldnt use the same irrational number more than once, that will result in weak encryption :P 19:19:26 (and i btw havent learned much about statistical analysis so i cant reflect on that) 19:22:47 Hmmm 19:22:56 I need to learn how to PSD to html 19:23:48 It can still be analysed. If you were for example, encrypting a human-written message, you can statistically decode based on the number of occurrances of each number 19:24:41 (it's still a substitution cipher) 19:28:25 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-D2623541.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 19:31:41 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 19:34:56 ohai pzuraq 19:35:47 ohai joepie93 19:35:55 .whois endernode.net 19:35:56 Domain 04endernode.net, registered on 042012-08-24T00:00:00 via 041 & 1 INTERNET AG, expires on 042013-08-24T00:00:00, nameservers are 04A.NS36.DE, B.NS36.DE, contact e-mails are 04not available 19:35:57 You seem to have aged backwards 19:36:06 mmm, weird 19:36:28 also I'm building an App with Meteor :D 19:36:42 pzuraq: aging backwards... happens 19:36:43 also, Meteor? 19:37:28 http://meteor.com 19:38:05 it is built on Node.js, philosophy is the same code runs on the client and server 19:38:25 hmm 19:38:26 notbad 19:38:53 Best part about this is it keeps all clients in sync by default 19:39:01 :D I'm building a project manager 19:39:21 lysobit: what 19:40:41 lysobit: my thought is that the amount of each number mod 26 will be approximately the same 19:41:31 node.i-zed.net also runs on node 19:41:35 encrypt "abcdefgh" using [1,2,3] gives [a+1,b+2,c+3,d+1,e+2,f+3,g+1,h+2] but with my method, for example with pi as a random irrational number, you get [a+31,b+41,c+59,d+26,e+53,f+58,g+97,h+93] 19:41:50 you're replacing the characters with the same numbers? 19:42:08 ^ more like an encoding then an ecryption 19:42:27 given that you have a text in 1000 letters, then you will need at least one irrational numbers with 2000 digits 19:43:14 a = 0, b = 1, ..., z = 25 19:44:16 DrWhat: it's not an encoding if you have a secret key 19:44:22 *** ZuHuD (ZuHuD@7788DE06.BB95BA34.3BD42910.IP) has joined #crytocc 19:44:31 if you have a text in say 500000 letters, i assume you will get approximately 1/26 on each character 19:44:32 and I'd imagine the secret key here would be the irrational number(s) 19:44:38 yup 19:44:52 thus it's encryption, but seems like very basic encryption 19:44:55 that wouldn't be hard to break 19:45:01 maybe not 19:45:18 but it is at least an extension of something that is very easy to break :P 19:45:32 What's the advantage of using irrational numbers, which aren't even random, for a encryption key, when you can use an actual cryptographically secure pseudo random number generator? 19:45:56 that will work as well 19:46:00 even better 19:46:15 irrational numbers was the first thing that came to my mind where the digits occuring are pretty random 19:46:42 not really. The very fact that it's an irrational number means that the next digits can easily be calculated using some sort of algorithm 19:47:40 iceTwy: your bin is broken 19:47:47 botpie91, tell iceTwy that his bin is broken 19:47:48 joepie93: I'll pass that on when iceTwy is around. 19:48:26 lysobit: yeah you can always do it by continuous fraction 19:49:43