00:00:06 *** LastOneStanding (lalalala@5C0B2CEF.B458528D.147E7205.IP) has joined #crytocc 00:00:57 this sucks 00:00:58 I worked hours on that 00:00:59 ;( 00:07:04 *** Ari has quit (Connection reset by peer) 00:07:12 *** Ari (Ari@Ari.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 00:17:11 * joepie91 points at topic 00:17:18 *** Zekka (zekka@Zekka.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 00:22:04 awh icetwy left 00:23:32 *** pzuraq has quit (Connection reset by peer) 00:23:53 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-D2623541.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 00:24:01 and yeah, bitcoins will continue to go up in price. It's required that they go up in "price" to be able to encapsulate all exchange to be done in bitcoins. Same thing as gold back in the day, but bitcoin is highly (if not infinitely) divisible, thus does not suffer from dollar overhang 00:24:50 anyhow, I wish icetwy would come back so I can yell at him 00:26:10 It's funny that tons of people hem and haw about the "original" bitcoin people having so many, but it truly does not matter 00:26:22 not in the slightest 00:27:31 if somebody who presently owns a large portion of available bitcoins were to, as is the "fear", dump them, the price would do exactly what it should do -- drop. And then it will do what it also always does, recover. 00:27:48 but perhaps more importantly, it's improper to frame bitcoins as units 00:27:59 because they're nearly? infinitely divisible 00:28:16 they're not dollars, you don't divide them into 100 and that's it 00:28:40 there could be 1 btc in existence, and given enough zeros in our processors we'd be able to do everything we do now 00:29:04 happenstance there's 22m, eventually 00:29:06 doesn't matter 00:29:13 arbitrary number for an arbitrary unit 00:30:57 anyway, bitcoin prices will stabilize only when they hit (to abuse the term) market saturation 00:31:29 or, until a better technology comes along (I actually do not think that will happen) 00:35:17 I've become convinced over the years that as an interchangeable good (ala precious metals) bitcoin has better properties than gold (for people, not necessarily for banks and other institutions) 00:36:56 but, to recognize it as such you must be prepared to reconceptualize your economics class (you have taken one, haven't you? ;) 00:41:16 dude joepie91, my boss has that desk. Hers has a back thing for a monitor (stand?) and on the left goes a table that straps onto it 00:41:49 cayce: I strongly doubt that 00:41:56 seeing as afaik this one is custom made :) 00:42:15 it looks exactly like hers o.o 00:42:16 * joepie91 spies a bot connecting 00:42:20 even the feet look the same 00:42:27 or the legs, can't see feets 00:42:37 bots? where? 00:42:42 * cayce turned off join/part 00:42:44 oh, oper connect messages 00:42:50 :3 00:42:50 I see all connecting/exiting clients 00:42:53 oh, woot 00:42:57 cayce: anyway, these legs were put on the desk later 00:43:00 they're actually from another desk 00:43:03 ahh 00:43:10 well it's very similar to the one my boss has 00:43:14 :P 00:44:07 wtf the one guy in my area who sold bitcoins doesn't anymore 00:44:10 I should fucking do that 00:46:22 actually I want a btc atm 00:50:11 I'm waiting for the step 5 years from now when you can use btc without knowing you're using btc 01:03:54 *** complex has quit (Input/output error) 01:10:09 *** LastOneStanding has quit (No route to host) 01:10:44 *** LastOneStanding (lalalala@5C0B2CEF.B458528D.147E7205.IP) has joined #crytocc 01:36:15 *** joepie91 has quit (Ping timeout) 02:04:30 *** LastOneStanding has quit (No route to host) 02:05:24 *** LastOneStanding (lalalala@5C0B2CEF.B458528D.147E7205.IP) has joined #crytocc 02:07:49 joepie91 02:11:08 *** Sonic (Mcloven@cryto-9F42E372.static.internode.on.net) has joined #crytocc 02:20:16 *** anonneko has quit (Connection reset by peer) 02:34:23 *** Douglas (Douglas@6499091B.95108C33.5B0695F1.IP) has joined #crytocc 02:38:16 botpie91, tell t0p that the arrest was a conspiracy and tell him good luck fending 02:38:17 Douglas: I'll pass that on when t0p is around. 02:41:06 botpie91, tell t0p that i like pizza 02:41:07 probably: I'll pass that on when t0p is around. 02:41:25 botpie91, tell joepie91 that i have a question for him 02:41:25 probably: I'll pass that on when joepie91 is around. 03:01:55 *** Thor (numz@cryto-1BD76AB0.piratenpartei-nrw.de) has joined #crytocc 03:03:35 *** pzuraq has quit (Input/output error) 03:03:57 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-D2623541.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 03:07:03 *** pzuraq has quit (Ping timeout) 03:17:50 *** Douglas has quit (Client exited) 04:13:16 *** Thor has quit (Input/output error) 04:42:59 *** Dwaan (h@cryto-69D33579.perm.iinet.net.au) has joined #crytocc 04:43:02 h 04:48:19 *** lblissett has quit (Ping timeout) 04:53:19 *** lblissett (lblissett@cryto-B07B90B6.tor-exit.calyxinstitute.org) has joined #crytocc 05:27:46 *** LastOneStanding has quit (Connection reset by peer) 05:28:34 *** LastOneStanding (lalalala@5C0B2CEF.B458528D.147E7205.IP) has joined #crytocc 05:41:41 *** Ari has quit (Connection reset by peer) 06:01:51 *** Douglas (Douglas@1A8F865E.95108C33.5B0695F1.IP) has joined #crytocc 06:05:04 *** tmbucky (tmbucky@cryto-37200178.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 06:06:25 *** tmbucky has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 07:09:53 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@cryto-610769D0.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #crytocc 07:15:02 *** iceTwy has quit (Ping timeout) 07:38:06 *** LastOneStanding has quit (Ping timeout) 07:41:34 *** Zekka has quit (Connection reset by peer) 07:41:36 *** Zekka (zekka@cryto-C764314F.arizona.edu) has joined #crytocc 07:45:46 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 08:34:33 *** probably has quit (Client exited) 08:34:38 *** probably (asdf@cryto-6246D134.chrismail.de) has joined #crytocc 08:44:02 *** Dwaan has quit (User quit: Leaving) 09:14:49 *** Douglas has quit (Client exited) 09:17:47 *** Douglas (Douglas@1A8F865E.95108C33.5B0695F1.IP) has joined #crytocc 10:01:39 *** MK_FG has quit (Input/output error) 10:20:53 *** MK_FG (MK_FG@MKFG-91968.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 10:26:06 *** MK_FG has quit (User quit: o//) 10:36:15 *** MK_FG (MK_FG@MKFG-91968.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 10:48:44 *** Douglas has quit (Client exited) 11:37:21 *** joepie91 (joepie91@cryto-3E6002EF.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 11:47:56 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@cryto-610769D0.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #crytocc 12:15:15 *** mama (me@5B4BF490.A57837E1.251D49E0.IP) has joined #crytocc 12:19:57 *** Douglas (~Douglas@1A8F865E.95108C33.5B0695F1.IP) has joined #crytocc 12:21:00 oh yay! 12:21:05 im so happy! 12:21:10 they fixed the connection problems 12:21:15 woooohooo 12:23:53 What connection issues? 12:24:04 *** Douglas has quit (Client exited) 12:24:08 *** iceTwy has quit (Ping timeout) 12:24:15 morning 12:24:16 joepie91: 02:41Z tell joepie91 that i have a question for him 12:24:17 Irony... 12:24:22 Morning joepie91 12:25:38 loggy, pointer? 12:25:38 http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2013-11-14#T12-25-38 12:26:21 *** Douglas (~Douglas@1A8F865E.95108C33.5B0695F1.IP) has joined #crytocc 12:28:33 *** mama has quit (User quit: ciao ciao) 12:48:57 probably Did you get anywhere>? 13:08:23 joepie91, you seem to have a "Read error: operation time out" everytime I say this: 13:08:24 1[01:37] .py exec('import time\nclass joepie91():\n def sleep(self):\n print "yawn"\n while True:\n time.sleep(8999)\njoe = joepie91(); joe.sleep();') 13:09:15 or maybe you're just trolling me 13:10:05 lysobit: lol 13:10:12 you just say it every time before I go to sleep 13:10:17 when I go to sleep, I suspend my machine 13:10:21 thus, read error 13:10:24 oh 13:10:26 :P 13:10:28 so you are trollng me 13:10:29 nice 13:12:46 *** Douglas has quit (Client exited) 13:33:37 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLlAjCXzNwc 13:33:47 .title 13:33:48 joepie91: Get Lucky - (Daft Punk ft. Pharrell) - Beatbox Cover - YouTube 13:45:51 .bitcoin 13:45:52 1 BTC = $418.01, 1 BTC = €320.00 14:23:23 *** GHOSTnew has quit (Ping timeout) 14:26:15 *** GHOSTnew (GHOSTnew@GHOSTnew.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 15:05:04 *** T0R_till (T0R_till@cryto-BB962101.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 15:06:26 *** T0R_till has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 15:13:17 janet yellen's talking right now, if anybody cares http://www.c-span.org/Events/Senate-Hearing-on-Federal-Reserve-Nomination/10737442622-1/ 15:13:38 (federal reserve chairman nominee) 15:13:49 (if approved, takes office in january) 15:14:28 Should we expect btc price spike? ;) 15:14:49 dunno, when she released her speech last night (text) stocks bumped 15:15:23 she wants to keep the cheap money door open (85bn/mo) until this shit is "fixed" 15:15:52 Hm, what's "cheap money door"? 15:16:17 federal reserve gives out ~85bn/mo at like .1% interest rate 15:16:28 *** cayce (cayce@cayce.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 15:16:33 joepie91:) you're still an asshole 15:16:36 Ah 15:16:42 * cayce pees 15:16:44 That's a trollbot ;) 15:16:48 I know 15:16:50 but he started it 15:17:00 anyway 15:17:19 they do two things, give out money super cheap like that as well as buying up shitty debt 15:17:48 it sorta cleans up everybody's books, but as far as I can tell doesn't actually help much 15:18:11 the economic infrastructure hasn't been cleaned up regulatory-wise, and so I don't see it being anything more than temp fix 15:19:06 temp being a different timescale than other things, because in govt economic implementation lag is like 4 years 15:19:13 that's like the minimum 15:19:29 Ok, though you shouldn't probably go into such detail 15:19:37 lol 15:19:48 I don't really understand that stuff, was just wondering about the wording there ;) 15:19:59 hehe 15:20:05 I've taught econ before 15:20:07 >_> 15:20:21 it's a favorite subjet 15:20:29 subject, or sujet lol 15:20:36 You say that about every subject 15:20:45 correct! 15:20:48 :D 15:21:01 * cayce learns many things 15:22:27 Who the fuck was the twitdipshit who thought it's funny for Windows to recognize the first primary partition only for an MSDOS based Partition table? 15:22:48 I can't frickin properly create a hidden partition table, not even having one with two partitions... 15:23:13 pendrive, two partitions, first containing exe files, second partition for the hidden data 15:23:13 Hm, you can't? 15:23:17 won't damn work 15:23:28 as I can't encrypt the second partition as it's not recognized by WIndows 15:23:36 Doesn't win have some kind of device-mapper tool? 15:23:37 so I can't select it either 15:23:46 checked, it says: An error occured 15:23:51 I.e. just map blockN-blockM of devX as devY 15:23:53 when checking for the second partition 15:23:59 Windows 15:24:02 not Linux 15:24:11 Surely there's gotta be tools 15:24:30 I try using Truecrypt forcreating a pendrive for having two partitions 15:24:38 1.) truecrypt exe 15:24:43 2.) hidden data 15:24:53 Though I guess if the point is to have that thing recognizable everywhere without tools, that might be bad... 15:25:07 2.) this section while still having a proper entry as primary partition AAAND formatted well Windows won't attach any letters to it 15:25:21 so I could create a proper encrypted volume 15:25:26 no, it refuses 15:26:46 fuck this, I will just encrypt the whole device... grmbl 15:27:51 Yeah, I'd think if your pendrive have one clear partition with fishy goop and no frag, containing just one truecrypt.exe, it's not much of a question if there's a hidden partition there :P 15:28:17 well, sure, but still, good luck decrypting :) 15:28:25 also, it's a helper for me, as I will not give out that pendrive :) 15:28:29 Though I thought truecrypt only created these on encrypted partitions 15:28:47 it can do a container, normal volume encryption, and hidden partition 15:29:36 But if hidden thing is on top of e,g, fat32... 15:30:00 ...then its blocks can easily be overwritten, I guess 15:32:07 it's a bit more compilacated, than that... Anyway I can't really do with MSDOS partition tables using Pendrives in Windows... 15:46:23 Windows is complicated 15:53:29 *** Pandora (Pandora@cryto-61E72864.ighost.se) has joined #crytocc 16:08:23 *** probably has quit (Ping timeout) 16:08:26 *** probably (asdf@20745377.ADF2CBB9.1AC919DC.IP) has joined #crytocc 16:33:00 *** anonnews299 (anonnews29@cryto-E984E96E.range217-43.btcentralplus.com) has joined #crytocc 16:36:29 agh fuck 16:36:54 firefox is dropping spdy/2 for 27, and there's no public work being done on spdy3 in nginx 16:36:54 e.e 16:38:41 woops 16:38:47 it got backed out and will hit ff28 16:38:48 hahaha 16:39:00 "based on some vendor discussions with both servers and chrome, I want to delay this by a six week cycle to give folks a slightly longer chance to update server side support." 16:39:05 aka nginx 16:42:00 *** anonnews299 has parted #crytocc () 16:42:08 Sounds weird 16:42:22 Like, why'd you care, if it can be negotiated 16:42:33 (about server side) 16:43:31 When server side hits the fan, it should also be better if oldish versions would have support in place already, even if just for testing 16:45:14 joepie91:) you're still an asshole 16:45:14 :D 16:45:22 *** Sonic has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:46:03 MK_FG:) it's not, they're completely dropping support for spdy2. they will only support 3.0 and 3.1 when this hits release 16:46:40 Hmmph 16:46:51 MK_FG:) also, that isn't unfortunately how spdy tends to work, it's usually just one or perhaps two versions impl server side 16:47:03 Guess it's freaking great no one use that crap yet 16:47:09 mostly they're trying to push towards spdy/4, but that isn't golded yet 16:47:29 that and any work done for spdy/4 sets them up for http/2.0 16:47:38 because they're almost the same 16:47:45 (spdy/4 is the basis for http/2) 16:48:59 Or dunno, is "upgrade your httpds, internet or your crap won't work anymore" really better than the crap we have with old-as-hell tls? 16:49:32 Nah, availability over security \o/ 16:49:33 I like the idea of slowly moving towards better 16:49:40 well it doesn't matter, in the end 16:49:50 if it doesn't do spdy/2, it just negotiates tls like anything else 16:50:25 Ah, right, tls is still a lingua-france fallback 16:50:27 *franca 16:51:01 yep 16:51:16 I mean spdy is all negotiated by NPN for now 16:51:19 and ALPN shortly 16:51:26 (since npn is deprecated) 16:52:39 And both are still tls extensions 16:52:50 yep 16:52:59 that's why I love all this new shit 16:53:07 it all falls back perfectly in the case of "doesn't support" 16:53:28 Haha, yeah, all the way back to some broken SSL 16:53:34 :P 16:55:00 Also, in the grand scheme of things, aren't all these fallbacks essentially fossilize all the broken crap below, like tcp/ip, ssl, tls, ... 16:55:17 So we never can have nice things! 16:56:12 meh 16:56:39 that's kind of a perfect solution versus worse is better argument 16:57:11 it's also why none of this will be used for years 16:57:27 spdy is a pretty perfect solution... and look at the adoption rates 16:57:47 I suspect http2, as amazing as it is, will be similar 16:58:03 and it's like, the same shit with ipv6 16:58:08 Screw them all when we can have cjdns 16:58:12 everything supports it these days, and nobody uses it 16:58:26 And ccnx 16:58:33 well yeah 16:58:44 I need to review that shit with grundy 16:58:52 :P 16:58:55 cjd told me to call him on it when he's being an idiot 16:59:10 Meh 16:59:16 I liked grundy 16:59:26 cjd is one mean bastard 16:59:34 well, it's a badge of honor more than anything 16:59:44 to give someone the specific duty of calling you on your bullshit 16:59:54 I take shit like that seriously 17:00:06 *** Pandora_ (Pandora@cryto-97741A65.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 17:00:30 I suspect cjd will be an ass occasionally. He's implementing his idea and there are a bunch of idiots trying to tell him how to do it 17:00:37 I suspect that's a tenuous relationship 17:01:04 Sure, occasional snap can certainly be forgiven 17:01:05 backseat driver problem 17:01:12 lol 17:01:38 * joepie91 just got back from ergotherapist 17:02:06 ergo... 17:02:15 MK_FG: mm? 17:02:26 *** Pandora has quit (Ping timeout) 17:02:27 * MK_FG looks it up in wiktionary 17:02:36 ergo is latin and not associated with a profession for me 17:02:46 err, it's called "ergotherapeut" here 17:02:48 I can only suspect ergonomic 17:02:55 seeing as "therapeut" translates to "therapist" in English 17:03:02 and several others recognized the word ergotherapist 17:03:02 yes but what do they do 17:03:04 *** Pandora__ (Pandora@cryto-1D51B44C.ighost.se) has joined #crytocc 17:03:07 I assume it is at least vaguely correct 17:03:15 I've literally never heard it before 17:03:18 .w ergotherapist 17:03:19 Couldn't get any definitions for ergotherapist. 17:03:21 ^ 17:03:22 helpful, botpie 17:03:24 .w ergotherapy 17:03:25 Couldn't get any definitions for ergotherapy. 17:03:27 really? 17:03:29 .wik ergotherapy 17:03:30 nope 17:03:30 "Occupational therapy, often called OT, is the use of treatments to develop, recover, or maintain the daily living and work skills of people with a physical, mental or developmental condition." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergotherapy 17:03:43 well that's not very helpful either 17:03:46 occupational therapist, I've heard of that 17:03:47 Says "occupational therapy", yeah 17:03:49 cayce: going there for RSI basically 17:03:53 yeah 17:04:05 something stuck in my neck / upper back, as I thought 17:04:11 ahh 17:04:12 Can one fellow really cover all occupations like that? 17:04:13 far too tense 17:04:19 lmao 17:04:25 they try ;) 17:04:25 result: sensitive / pressured arms 17:04:30 and wrist likely also a result of that 17:04:36 hmm 17:04:42 I mean, surely one person can have RSI, other STD, other a bunch of bricks falling on his head... 17:04:44 so you've got a foreign body in there? 17:04:57 *** Pandora_ has quit (Ping timeout) 17:04:57 MK_FG: actually I intentionally picked a 'clinic' that has multiple specialized therapists 17:05:04 cayce: ? 17:05:31 "something stuck in my neck" 17:05:34 == object 17:05:36 cayce: no 17:05:41 I just find it hard to describe 17:05:42 in English 17:05:46 my medical English is suck 17:05:50 ahh 17:06:19 I've undergone manual therapy for the back as a child 17:07:15 That was intense, back cracking as the guy basically breaks it 17:07:26 yap 17:07:47 my doctors were freaked out for years due to a bend in my spine 17:08:09 turns out it's probably from when I was little and my doctors manually "opened" my ribcage 17:08:21 cause it was going to be too small for my guts later in life (it still sort of is) 17:08:47 I'mma look really funny if I ever gain weight 17:08:51 lol 17:08:56 Ugh 17:09:15 I thought you had some computer-induced back issues ;) 17:09:44 Guess pretty much everyone exposed to that first-gen crappy hardware as a child has 17:09:57 no o.o 17:10:02 I had no first gen crappy hardware 17:10:03 lol 17:10:13 I started on a p3 :D 17:19:33 cayce lets fuck 17:19:42 * DrWhat strips down to a butt 17:20:00 * DrWhat stick extigisher up butt 17:20:04 why do you insist on being offensive 17:20:09 go the fuck away, dude 17:20:58 Because I am who I make my self with no disrigard for the population of hgihest teir 17:21:18 Heh 17:21:21 I made that up 17:21:29 I made sense in my head 17:21:41 Now that i read it back im like 17:21:46 WHAT WAS I THINKING! 17:25:47 https://vine.co/v/hTDbK0v2KDx 17:25:50 .title 17:25:51 DrWhat: Kyle Newsome's post on Vine 17:28:13 *** Pandora__ has quit (User quit: Leaving) 17:28:13 *** lysobit has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 17:28:13 *** MK_FG has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 17:28:13 *** lblissett has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 17:28:13 *** connor has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 17:28:13 *** rohdint has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 17:28:13 *** ElectRo` has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 17:28:13 *** LapAnon has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 17:28:13 *** staticsafe has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 17:28:13 *** joepie91 has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 17:28:13 *** fr0z3n has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 17:28:13 *** Sue has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 17:28:13 *** norbert79 has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 17:28:13 *** Goochy has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 17:28:13 *** captainobvious has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 17:28:13 *** foolex has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 17:28:13 *** truetravesty has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 17:28:13 *** SpaghettiCode has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 17:29:55 *** joepie91 (joepie91@cryto-3E6002EF.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 17:29:55 *** MK_FG (MK_FG@MKFG-91968.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 17:29:55 *** lblissett (lblissett@cryto-B07B90B6.tor-exit.calyxinstitute.org) has joined #crytocc 17:29:55 *** fr0z3n (fr0z3n@cryto-D181503A.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 17:29:55 *** connor (c@BA2D26D0.339A30FF.B40044C0.IP) has joined #crytocc 17:29:55 *** Sue (sue@cryto-AC0C3F6A.hardestyhosting.com) has joined #crytocc 17:29:55 *** rohdint (rohdint@rohdint.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 17:29:55 *** ElectRo` (x@cryto-5A768E90.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 17:29:55 *** norbert79 (Norbi@cryto-104FD98D.org) has joined #crytocc 17:29:55 *** LapAnon (Grep@LapAnon.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 17:29:55 *** Goochy (coolstory@6F6A74B2.87773AE4.B7613ADF.IP) has joined #crytocc 17:29:55 *** lysobit (musalbas@localhost) has joined #crytocc 17:29:55 *** staticsafe (ss@staticsafe.py) has joined #crytocc 17:29:55 *** SpaghettiCode (pasta@code.bonanza) has joined #crytocc 17:29:55 *** truetravesty (truetraves@7ABB88F7.2C566207.79E6D716.IP) has joined #crytocc 17:29:55 *** foolex (foolex@5D6B0912.EC145393.9A74EEF1.IP) has joined #crytocc 17:29:55 *** captainobvious (groente@cryto-4DA48F8F.puscii.nl) has joined #crytocc 17:33:31 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@cryto-610769D0.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #crytocc 17:37:25 Sue? 17:37:26 Girl? 17:37:29 Like? 17:37:35 With a vagina and such 17:37:53 DrWhat: stop doing that, seriously 17:37:58 ^_^ 17:38:02 no, I'm serious 17:38:02 DrWhat: what joepie91 said 17:38:06 it isn't even remotely funny 17:43:12 Obama, Internet, Ham Radio...! 17:43:16 oops 17:43:20 I have no iea how that happened 17:43:31 I mean literally, that isn't even on any of the webpages I'm reading 17:43:36 apparently it was in my clipboard 17:43:51 Was just going to say I have class, I'll be back sometime later 17:49:37 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 17:50:15 haha what 18:03:51 agh I have fucked up my pasta three times now 18:03:52 e.e 18:08:41 cayce: lrn2pasta 18:08:55 I have 18:09:03 I just keep forgetting it's on the stove 18:09:03 dude it's not hard 18:09:05 cook them al dente 18:09:11 then put on a timer 18:09:12 that requires watching them 18:09:13 :p 18:09:18 no o.o 18:09:18 oh you lazy boy 18:09:21 11 minutes of your time 18:09:23 haet timer 18:09:26 more like 8 18:09:29 >_> 18:09:31 *** Zekka (zekka@Zekka.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 18:09:32 depends on the kind of pasta 18:09:38 8 minutes I could spend doing other things 18:09:48 * cayce hates having to feed himself 18:10:42 cayce: 8 minutes that will produce edible food 18:11:03 food, without which you won't be productive if you don't eat it 18:11:11 :/ 18:11:14 so spending time to cook is actually making you productive 18:11:25 in a way 18:11:38 cayce: plus I'd much rather feed myself than rely on prepared meals 18:11:38 doesn't mean I resent having to do it any less 18:11:39 >_> 18:11:44 aw 18:11:46 No, I just don't eat 18:11:50 I won't eat that bullshit 18:12:00 what bullshit? prepared meals? 18:12:02 yes 18:12:16 those things are fucking horrible in the us 18:12:18 and far more expensive 18:12:50 yeah ikr. they're extremely expensive here too 18:13:01 5 to 7€ for a single prepared meal 18:13:27 they're cheaper than that here, but still way more expensive than making food 18:13:36 I think pasta is the most expensive food I eat 18:13:49 around 1$ per meal? 18:13:57 hm 18:14:16 I dunno how steak works out though, that might be more expensive 18:14:27 but it's also more meals (usually I try for 2, even though that's a terrible idea) 18:14:49 but that's because I can't actually carry enough food to campus 18:14:54 not enough room in my bag 18:15:02 I already take 1-2lbs per day 18:15:21 and I'm usually out of food by the time I leave, which is bad 18:15:45 out of good being "haven't eaten in 3 hours" which means my energy level is nonexistent 18:15:55 and I'm supposed to ride 4.5 miles home 18:16:06 s/good/food/ 18:16:19 * cayce complains 18:17:46 cayce 18:17:51 use my approach 18:17:59 cook for a few days, store food in fridge 18:18:06 then heat using freezer bag in pan of boiling water 18:18:16 takes less time for same productivity and good food! 18:18:24 I can't cook enough food that far ahead, and there isn't enough fridge space to keep it if I could 18:18:32 ah :( 18:18:34 also a problem, I don't eat at home 18:18:47 must be eaten on campus, where I am for 8-14 hours per day (on an average day) 18:19:03 they have no facilities for such, they want us to buy their expensive as shit food 18:19:23 and yeah, I cook rice ahead of time 18:19:27 vegetables too 18:19:38 and steak on sunday nights 18:19:51 (cook 4-5lbs for the week) 18:20:12 I want a cheaper alternative, but I haven't worked one out yet 18:20:42 the problem is the volume of food I have to bring more than anything 18:20:58 people all bring nice little things of delicious food... that would last me 2 hours 18:21:35 I mean, it's a major logistics problem lol 18:24:04 Logistics? Surely transporting daily ration is easy 18:24:57 transporting enough is not 18:25:04 Your stormach can't hold more than few kilos! 18:25:23 And I guess you don't eat like 5 times in 8-14h 18:25:25 I already take a bucket that is 8 inches to a side and 4 inches deep 18:25:36 I eat almost a full meal every 3 hours 18:25:37 so, yes 18:25:38 I do 18:26:00 :| 18:27:07 Hmph, maybe you should do something about that parasites in your intstines 18:27:32 the only way to decrease how much food I need is to stop biking to school 18:28:07 which would mean my transport time would increase from 25minutes each way to an hour+ each way 18:29:12 Which can be nice, if you have stuff to read 18:29:23 (like, daily load of feeds) 18:29:40 Or you can get more energy-efficient food 18:29:45 I don't have a way to look at feeds 18:29:50 Like plutonium 18:29:51 on the bus, I assume 18:30:15 Sure you do, just get a e-ink reader! 18:30:21 >buy 18:30:23 no 18:30:30 They should be cheaper than food anyway 18:30:35 And second-had almost free 18:30:36 not really 18:30:44 maybe second hand, but not new 18:30:54 I only pay 30/week for food right now 18:30:59 which is about as high as I'm willing to go 18:31:04 They cost like $50 new here 18:31:14 And $15 used 18:31:22 hmm, not bad 18:31:30 I don't actually want one, but that's a decent price 18:31:40 I'd send you mine, but shipping would probably be more expensive 18:31:42 more interested in food with more calories >_> 18:49:02 *** complex (litehode@complex.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 18:57:38 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 19:01:22 *** GHOSTnew has quit (Ping timeout) 19:05:24 *** GHOSTnew (GHOSTnew@GHOSTnew.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 19:11:06 *** Pandora (Pandora@cryto-1D51B44C.ighost.se) has joined #crytocc 19:18:22 *** zest (zest@48FDC79C.9DA5D8CB.9A74EEF1.IP) has joined #crytocc 19:20:43 hmm... taking a bus into the sketchy town nearby at 3am and waiting 1hr there... sounds like a great idea 19:20:45 >_> 19:24:23 let me guess, that part is the "immigrant"-part 19:24:36 of the town 19:25:07 yeah, it is 19:25:11 well, not part 19:25:15 it's the immigrant town 19:25:22 lotta shootings over there, heh 19:25:43 few over here, too, but less 19:27:42 hmm, I think the bus only runs saturday mornings e.e 19:27:55 I guess I'll have to take the silly once per day bus e.e 19:28:09 i have realized i will just risk being called a racist if i start debating about it, so instead i am sarcastic about it 19:28:49 *** Zekka (zekka@Zekka.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 19:28:52 lol, I figured you were going to call me a racist 19:28:54 * cayce shrugs 19:29:33 i dont think i mind the debate either, but i dont like how people that are against immigration are portrayed as being plane stupid 19:29:56 i dont called you racist 19:31:58 that's a pretty big topic though 19:36:06 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 19:36:28 #FirstWorldProblems 19:38:06 *** Zekka (zekka@cryto-3300EA23.arizona.edu) has joined #crytocc 19:38:28 lol 20:09:12 *** Pandora has quit (User quit: Leaving) 20:36:31 so 20:36:38 just finished watching a documentary on the darknet 20:36:47 that aired on France 2's Envoye Spécial 20:36:49 envoyé* 20:37:16 which is basically an investigative journalism weekly show, that airs a couple of documentaries at a time 20:37:42 I couldn't believe the amount of flaws in their documentary 20:37:45 Like 20:37:46 just.. wow. 20:38:30 cc joepie91 20:42:21 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 20:45:12 ofc 20:45:28 iceTwy: it's news nowadays when a documentary *isn't* massively inaccurate 20:45:55 joepie91: well 20:46:00 the second part wasn't THAT inaccurate 20:46:19 it finally explained that the Darknet was also used as a legitimate tool 20:46:24 for bypassing censorship and so forth 20:46:36 they talked about cryptoanarchism too 20:46:42 which, y know, is pretty good 20:47:03 but that second part came after the first one where they went like, "Tor = drugs + CP" 20:47:17 and Bitcoin = virtual money to buy drugs 20:51:20 joepie91: not english speaking? 20:52:12 complex: wha? 21:07:50 the documentary 21:09:47 *** zest has quit (User quit: have fun :P) 21:12:25 *** Zekka (zekka@Zekka.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 21:28:04 *** Pandora (Pandora@cryto-6806BAD.ighost.se) has joined #crytocc 21:32:05 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-74E5AB28.sub-70-197-1.myvzw.com) has joined #crytocc 21:55:01 *** Pandora has quit (User quit: Leaving) 22:01:08 *** macbeth (JohnSmith@Macbeth.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 22:15:51 *** pzuraq has quit (Input/output error) 22:22:56 joepie91 22:22:59 did u get my message? 22:38:31 *** anonnews094 (anonnews09@cryto-69B96D3C.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 22:45:08 *** Sonic (Mcloven@cryto-9F42E372.static.internode.on.net) has joined #crytocc 22:51:05 *** anonnews094 has quit (Ping timeout) 23:08:12 .bitcoin 23:08:13 1 BTC = $417.75, 1 BTC = €317.00 23:20:07 *** DrWhat has quit (Input/output error) 23:25:18 *** iceTwy has quit (User quit: Disconnecting from server) 23:29:52 lysobit: you havent tried to make a pseudorandom numbergenerator yourself? 23:55:23 -,- stupid internet