00:00:18 probably: avoid HP, avoid Dell consumer line 00:00:28 avoid Packard Bell like the plague 00:01:03 Dell business laptops are generally good, as are Lenovo laptops (both consumer and business, but build quality on consumer line isn't always great) 00:01:08 Asus 00:01:10 All the way 00:01:11 My old laptop here lasted me 5 yaers joepie91 - AMD though 00:01:12 Asus is fine also 00:01:18 years * 00:01:38 Acer if you want to go cheap - but please buy one physically and not online so that you are sure the build quality and keyboard quality is in order; it varies greatly between models 00:02:18 Alienware is generally overpriced, but not inherently bad afaik 00:02:31 that's pretty much all the big names I think 00:04:08 also, probably, what broke? or did it just become outdated? 00:04:14 (w/ current laptop) 00:05:43 hm 00:05:59 joepie91 - instant-battery drain, beeping on startup (CPU failure), HDD failure 00:06:09 oh, yeah, that sounds pretty broken 00:06:11 Video card issues 00:06:14 surprising 00:06:22 usually it's just the battery and fans that give out on a laptop 00:06:26 before the rest has a chance to die 00:06:30 I tried seeing if I could re-install it a while ago for the fuck of it, 00:06:35 and it was in the middle of loading the setup files 00:06:36 and bang 00:06:37 crash 00:06:42 while plugged in 00:06:48 :/ 00:07:02 yeah, that sounds like a total loss, from what you describe 00:07:15 shame 00:07:41 but yeah, for new laptops just make sure you stay the fuck away from HP and Packard Bell, the rest is at least decent 00:07:58 and Asus / Lenovo / Dell Business / some Acer models for higher quality 00:08:10 meh, 00:08:12 ill check it out 00:08:54 (Packard Bell has serious problems with hardware failures, poor case design leading to overheating, driver issues, generally poor quality components, etc.... HP has shitty chargers/batteries, sometimes other poor components, and their customer service / warranty is fucking awful) 00:12:57 mmk 00:13:22 ugh, all the decent laptops start at $500 00:14:45 sounds about right 00:15:50 that's what I paid, yeah 00:15:56 mine lasted 4 years 00:16:13 (not quite dead, I think, but I haven't gotten around to resurrection attempts) 00:19:01 *** DrWhat has quit (Ping timeout) 00:21:57 *** zxcvbnm has quit (User quit: Lost terminal) 00:24:32 *** Cryto334 (Cryto334@cryto-67AF6B55.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 00:25:29 *** Cryto334 has quit (User quit: Page closed) 00:29:42 *** Ari (Ari@Ari.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 00:49:44 *** foolex has quit (Client exited) 00:52:15 *** foolex (foolex@5D6B0912.EC145393.9A74EEF1.IP) has joined #crytocc 01:02:55 *** lblissett has quit (Ping timeout) 01:16:35 *** lblissett (lblissett@cryto-AC549E18.guilhem.org) has joined #crytocc 01:23:26 *** Charles (Charles@Charles.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 01:24:32 *** Cryto148 (Cryto148@cryto-4C4D58AC.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #crytocc 01:24:48 *** Cryto148 has quit (User quit: Page closed) 01:33:46 *** Charles has quit (Client exited) 01:38:19 *** Charles (Charles@Charles.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 01:50:54 *** Riddler (Riddler@cryto-1D9B597A.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 01:50:56 hello 02:04:58 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-BAE76FBA.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 02:05:04 *** fanat1ck (fanat1ck@cryto-EDC6339F.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 02:06:26 *** fanat1ck has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 02:07:11 Join #askanonymous 02:07:37 thx Riddler 02:07:47 np 02:28:29 *** Crypto_ (Crypto@cryto-E310D83A.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 02:30:34 NP: [Michael Jackson - Thriller] [Thriller] [813kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane 02:45:27 *** Crypto_ has parted #crytocc () 02:45:36 *** lblissett has quit (Ping timeout) 03:09:06 *** url (blac@cryto-4D6EF7F6.dynamic.kbronet.com.tw) has joined #crytocc 03:26:36 *** Charles has parted #crytocc (None) 03:33:04 please join #askanonymous 03:37:46 *** joepie91 has quit (User quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 03:37:50 *** joepie91 (joepie91@cryto-3E6002EF.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 03:38:51 Riddler: that channel is not to be mentioned here or in #anonnews 03:39:09 okay 03:39:11 why? 03:39:18 I wasnt told this before, sorry 03:39:55 please review the backlog in that channel; the short version is that Charles is behaving extremely misleading to a potentially dangerous degree, and I do not want to put my users at risk 03:40:25 then you are doing the same thing to your users that charles is doing to his. 03:40:39 Riddler: how am I? 03:41:38 you giving them propaganda not to enter that chat room because "you" feel they shouldn't. What if some of your users, such as me, are interested in this chat room? you are trying to dominate and tell what chat rooms we can and can't join by doing this. 03:41:55 Riddler: not really 03:42:06 really 03:42:06 if I wanted to do that I could just remove the channel from the network altogether 03:42:23 Riddler: It is not based on some emotional feeling, it is based on a reasonable logical justification. 03:42:29 the problem is that he is falsely claiming the channel to be "official", and is showing clear disregard for others 03:42:32 a fact. 03:42:51 that is a very dangerous combination that, in the past, has led to people getting into dangerous situations 03:42:56 he claiming to speak his mind directly to a select few of people in anonymous who agree with him. Others can also join in this conversation as well and speak their minds. I don't believe that charles would ever try to speak for everyone in anonymous because he bloody knows that anonymous is an idea created by different opinions 03:43:16 doing things putting themselves at risk, because they believed they were part of an "official anonymous blah" 03:43:25 Riddler: please read the above very carefully 03:43:26 Riddler: Then why does he need to use the word? The word tha clearly will lead some people to think otherwise? 03:43:47 Anonnews never claims to be the official anon news source 03:44:15 by claiming to be official and having disregard for others, he is potentially creating a very dangerous situation for the users that get involved in it 03:44:29 I am not in a position to stop him from doing so entirely - but I -am- in a position to protect my users from that 03:44:38 joepie... 03:44:51 you banned charles from crytocc and anonnews? 03:44:59 Riddler: no, he left of his own accord 03:45:35 the only thing I have done is making clear that the channel [pretending to be official] is not to be mentioned to #anonnews or #crytocc users 03:45:39 sorry. it would help if u saw the prev argument. [19:42] joepie91 was unhappy with my use of "official" which i declined to remove. he then said he wld bar me from #crytocc and #anonnews, which i accepted. however he came bck after that and threatened to bar anyone else who stays on the channel, which is UNREASONABLE [19:43] i cant tell the truth to everyone as im now banned from the channel. so pls tell th 03:46:05 Riddler; please read back what I actually said in the channel, he is twisting my words 03:46:06 you threaten to bann anyone else on the chat room it seems.... 03:46:10 no 03:46:14 Riddler: He said he would bar him from mentioning #askanonymous 03:46:14 that is just his interpretation of it, apparently 03:46:32 not from the chatroom itself 03:46:43 ^ 03:46:44 this is chaos at its finest. 03:46:48 yeah 03:46:53 This will make an awesome article 03:47:05 Riddler: I don't care whether he or anybody is in either #anonnews or #crytocc, or participates in it 03:47:14 Thank you for the info and entertainment. 03:47:21 but 03:47:22 I just want to prevent him from taking users from either of those channels and bringing them into a misleading and potentially dangerous situation 03:47:39 freedom of speech my friend..... freedom of speech 03:47:46 Riddler: So you're going to write an article about the drama going on in anon and not the actual issues? 03:47:51 no 03:47:59 Riddler: freedom of speech is why his channel still exists 03:48:00 We have never threatened his freedom to speak 03:48:44 Riddler: please read the network MOTD (it is in the server tab) 03:48:49 the most relevant section is this: 03:48:50 - Unless a user or channel is a threat to the network or other users or 03:48:50 - channels that do not choose to be involved in the problematic user's 03:48:50 - business, network operators will not involve themselves into channel 03:48:50 - business. This means you are free to use your channel in a manner that 03:48:50 - you wish, as long as the few network-wide rules that exist are followed. 03:48:50 - We do not impose restrictions on discussion topics, channel moderation, 03:48:50 - bot policy, etc. 03:49:08 we simply do not want him to represent us. By claiming to be official, he does that. By posting in these channels, he does that. 03:49:31 pzuraq: I am more concerned with the possible practical consequences, than with the representation itself, tbqh 03:49:50 I'm going to write an article about how anonymous is slowly falling apart due to mutiny and inside rebellions an arguments. This discussion gives a clear example of how anonymous is not unified and how in the near future it will fall apart. The bastards at RT, Reuter, and Huffinton post are going to like this. 03:49:56 you see 03:50:01 I am not in anonymous 03:50:06 I'm just the press 03:50:09 that is why I like 03:50:13 askanonymous 03:50:24 it allows me to get questions answered. 03:50:32 Riddler: Can I read your articles then? 03:50:38 when its done 03:50:49 would you like to read my current article 03:50:55 its on rtamerica 03:51:08 Riddler: I would also like you to have a look at the channel topic here again 03:51:19 for future reference 03:51:19 joepie91: From my perspective, the justification for our arguments is based on his lack of a right to speak for us. This is why I argue from that pov. 03:51:34 Riddler: Sure, link? 03:51:54 Anonymous hackers engaged in year-long campaign targeting US govt agencies - FBI http://rt.com/usa/anonymous-government-campaign-fbi-814/ 03:52:02 I took the picture myself. 03:53:20 Riddler: you are Saul Loeb? 03:53:42 the thing about rt america is.... 03:53:43 shitty reporting 03:53:49 excuse me 03:53:55 as I was saying 03:53:56 Jeremy Hammond never pleaded guilty 03:54:01 he denied all charges 03:54:07 no he didnt kid 03:54:20 I'm a pro I always get my facts right 03:54:28 * joepie91 redirects this discussion to #anonnews 03:54:58 ah, my bad 03:55:02 apparently he did 03:55:23 the article I read last night claimed otherwise. 03:55:27 pzuraq, Riddler, please take this discussion to #anonnews 03:55:43 it's already breaking one channel rule and close to breaking a second 03:56:03 and I'd rather go to sleep without this getting potentially out of hand 03:56:03 fine 03:56:29 joepie91: Sorry, which rule? I ask as I didn't realize, would like to read the rules again. 03:56:41 pzuraq: see the channel topic 03:57:01 lol 03:57:12 definitely one, almost two :p 03:57:31 also, to clarify; these three rules are in place for a reason 03:57:41 these three things have caused trouble here in the past 03:57:52 they are not arbitrary rules 04:14:47 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 04:15:36 *** Charles (Charles@Charles.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 04:35:43 *** Riddler has parted #crytocc () 04:43:02 jesus christ 04:43:07 I think I lost several IQ points 04:43:12 talk about not fucking getting it 04:43:58 self important prick, jeez 04:44:20 * cayce smh goes back to writing paper about human rights interventions 04:50:35 cayce: You talk to them too? 04:53:48 *** Charles has quit (Client exited) 04:53:56 *** Charles (Charles@Charles.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 04:58:13 *** joepie91 has quit (User quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 05:08:52 *** Charles has quit (Client exited) 05:22:25 *** Charles (Charles@Charles.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 06:22:47 pzuraq:) no? I just read the scrollback 06:22:54 finished my paper too 06:22:56 damn 06:23:07 all 6 fuckin pages 06:23:08 kevin mitnick is now high up on the list of people i wanna meet 06:23:31 i met ken perlin 06:23:34 he's pretty cool 06:23:52 sometime before wednesday at 945am I'm supposed to write 1.5 pages on state surveillance and come up with 2 minutes on some aspect of it 06:24:30 test tomorrow night for 3 hours 06:24:44 2 essays (of 4) on writings we're supposed to have read this semester 06:25:03 and chapter 10 for 10am... then tuesday is nuclear nonproliferation day 06:25:09 o_o 06:25:22 and another 4 hour break (like tomorrow) where I'll read an entire 100 page book 06:25:47 and that's only tuesday 06:25:54 the paper and preso are due 945am weds 06:26:06 we give the preso that period (10-12 weds) 06:26:14 sounds like 06:26:15 a lot of work 06:26:17 uni? 06:26:19 probably test that afternoon 06:26:25 on the book I'm reading tuesday 06:26:33 and a previous book (another 200 pages) 06:26:48 likely a 5 page in class essay 06:27:03 (hand written e.e) 06:27:07 hee hee 06:27:12 and then another essay due friday 06:27:13 you poor angel 06:27:14 and then break! 06:27:25 yes, uni 06:27:28 my major, mostly 06:27:34 this is only 16 units 06:27:35 being? 06:27:38 I'm taking 18 next semester 06:27:40 global studies 06:27:45 ah 06:28:00 it's not a major you'll hear of, it's not offered many places 06:28:39 neomarxist postcapitalist interdisciplinary crossapplication of theoretical frameworks 06:28:47 there's some word I'm missing, not sure which 06:29:04 to differentiate it from international studies 06:29:21 which is from international relations, and is thus primarily state-based, whereas we're primarily not-state-based 06:29:30 green revolution in india, etc 06:29:35 sounds fancy as shit 06:29:43 it is very fucking neat 06:29:44 *** Charles has quit (Client exited) 06:29:46 i'm just gonna go into networking/CS 06:29:52 I started out CS 06:30:06 I'mma learn... ceylon over the break, I think 06:30:17 http://ceylon-lang.org/ 06:30:34 decided I don't hate programming anymore 06:30:39 need to find a language I like, if not C 06:30:54 python/perl/ruby already work for scripting, but I want something sorta like ceylon 06:31:05 it runs in the jvm, but it also crosscompiles directly into js 06:31:10 (nodejs and browser js) 06:31:30 it has some neat shit too 06:31:35 damn 06:31:40 like all things are implicitly private 06:31:41 looks cool 06:31:46 so you don't get stuck in java object hell 06:31:49 with getters and setters 06:31:58 calling vars variables looks like too much verbosity 06:32:12 I don't like worthless concision 06:32:16 my code should read 06:32:20 my C was like that 06:32:28 it's why IDE's have autocomplete 06:32:35 true 06:32:40 but you're not in my java class 06:32:41 and yeah, don't go java on it 06:32:45 *** Charles (Charles@Charles.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 06:32:50 where we're forced to use something called "ready to program" 06:32:52 google it 06:32:53 and weep 06:32:58 fucking.function.that.does.nothing() {/// 06:33:02 lol 06:33:09 that's java in a nutshell 06:33:20 but I'm totally down with functionName() 06:33:26 oh 06:33:28 you'd love 06:33:28 https://github.com/EnterpriseQualityCoding/FizzBuzzEnterpriseEdition 06:33:53 * cayce waits for chrome 06:34:32 oh, cool 06:34:44 that'd take me 30m to do, 25 of which would be relearning C 06:34:57 and maybe 1m for fighting with compiler 06:34:58 lol 06:35:01 lol 06:35:03 anyway 06:35:06 fizzbuzz enterprise 06:35:09 fizzbuzz in java 06:35:10 I want a compiled language that writes the way I speak code 06:35:26 http://i.imgur.com/SsiIsWU.png\ 06:35:28 http://i.imgur.com/SsiIsWU.png 06:35:29 I'll probably just go back to C (oh how i loved C) 06:35:39 never learned it 06:35:42 but there's all the new ones, and I should give some a fair shot 06:35:42 ahh 06:35:46 wonder if there's a lang that speaks naturally 06:35:48 I learned C and then x86asm 06:35:52 fun 06:35:56 i wanna write a kernel 06:35:57 eventuall 06:36:00 C spoke naturally for me 06:36:14 and it doesn't impose lots of restrictions on you 06:36:18 if you fuck up, it crashes 06:36:23 end of story 06:36:41 I'm happy with that 06:36:53 oh god 06:36:54 fucking 06:36:59 YOU HAVE FIZZBUZZ FACTORIES 06:37:02 dude you can now die 06:37:07 just so you know 06:37:10 you have entered java hell 06:37:21 lool 06:37:25 that's the joke 06:38:23 da 06:38:24 but yeah 06:38:31 I'mma look at ceylon and go 06:38:36 not sure what else 06:38:44 mmk 06:38:44 something other than fucking scripting languages 06:38:52 lool\ 06:38:56 LUA PYTHON JS 06:38:56 I mean, I love ruby, always will 06:39:09 it's like programming while being fucked 06:39:16 so sexy 06:39:17 lool 06:39:23 but not scalable AT ALL 06:39:27 the ballmer peak 06:39:30 yeah 06:39:49 and I've actually heard decent shit about lua 06:39:53 it's pretty expressive 06:40:06 really good for niche shit, less so for "build a system in lua" 06:40:10 yeah 06:40:15 nice as a scripting lang for other plats 06:40:26 which is awesome, and like lighttpd2's config file is a lua file now 06:40:29 like for modding games 06:40:42 it expresses a logic for handling incoming connections 06:40:46 which is a hilarious idea 06:40:49 but totally makes sense 06:41:07 lool 06:41:21 anyway yeah 06:41:26 perl and ruby were my starts haha 06:41:47 haha 06:42:04 and uh 06:42:08 xhtml1.1 strict 06:42:16 mines were java and html 06:42:16 :P 06:42:22 which is why my html is perfect 06:42:23 lol 06:42:35 because xhtml is "don't follow guides, read the spec" 06:42:52 yep :P 06:43:29 ugh man 06:43:30 those doctypes though 06:43:31 ew 06:43:34 this week is gonna be fueled by satan 06:43:49 brb 06:43:50 I give a presentation before the test tomorrow 06:44:09 5 minute presentation on max weber (theorist), and a 2 page paper on him 06:44:21 I suppose I'll probably write it during class tomorrow 06:55:14 cayce, Rust might be closer to C than Go 06:55:36 (yet without buffer overflows and all that crap) 06:56:52 the examples of rust look like shit 06:56:55 are there any better ones 06:57:55 maybe it's just because they don't fucking indent anything 06:57:57 because they're assholes 06:58:07 Ugh 06:58:25 There's tutorial - http://static.rust-lang.org/doc/0.8/tutorial.html#syntax-basics 06:59:04 OH 06:59:05 this shit 06:59:09 this is why I threw rust out 06:59:10 let mut count = 0; 06:59:12 that shit right there 06:59:25 I have to manually identify variables scope and mutability 06:59:25 no 06:59:40 this is my nope 07:00:06 anyway, must sleep 07:00:11 will rage more at this in the morning 07:00:22 :3 07:00:28 Um, you do same with C declaring vars in functions, I think 07:00:43 Here it's a gc thing, iiuc 07:00:45 since when 07:00:55 I int name; done 07:01:23 yeah and you can ~var things to make them get autocleaned by gc 07:01:25 which is neat 07:01:26 but no 07:01:37 I would actually rather manage that myself 07:02:16 * cayce sleep() 07:20:12 cayce: ah 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Charles has quit (Ping timeout) 13:14:42 *** daemon has quit (Ping timeout) 13:15:19 *** joepie91 (joepie91@cryto-3E6002EF.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 13:16:59 HELLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOO joepie91 13:19:02 *** d0wn has quit (User quit: Exit 0) 13:21:39 seriously... http://joepie91.wordpress.com/2013/02/19/the-python-documentation-is-bad-and-you-should-feel-bad/#comment-558 13:21:41 ohai ChauffeR 13:21:52 "delphi is worse so that makes python good" 13:21:54 I don't even what 13:22:48 I mean, he's basically conflating emotional arguments and own-perspective comparisons, with an objective and atomic measure of quality 13:25:02 *** Sonic has quit (Connection reset by peer) 13:33:30 I disagree with you there 13:33:41 "good" is an extremely subjective term 13:34:37 If PHP documentation wasn't as good as it is today, I have doubts that you'd have written that blog post, otherwise that blog post would have been titled something like "Programming documentation is bad in general" 13:35:53 because honestly, I can't think of anything better than PHP documentation 13:44:17 *** d0wn|off (d0wn_blog@cryto-256AD0BA.static.lu) has joined #crytocc 13:44:37 *** d0wn|off is now known as d0wn 13:51:26 lysobit: sure, which is why I tried to address the problems with the Python documentatiton objectively, only using PHP as an example of how it could be done beter 13:51:39 the mailing list post I linked does an even better job of that 13:51:55 doc quality -is- actually an objective metric 13:52:28 it's the answer to the question "does this documentation help people find and learn information about X efficiently, without being in the way or causing frustration" 13:52:51 also, lysobit, I have to brb ergotherapist but I'll leave you a question in PM 14:19:48 *** lblissett has quit (Input/output error) 14:19:58 *** Charles (Charles@Charles.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 14:20:15 *** lblissett (lblissett@cryto-D181503A.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 14:31:33 *** Charles has quit 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If so, why? I know more about TOR than I2P and am currently reading the I2P site but was wondering if there was something better about it. I know it's a smaller network and isn't a 'guarantee' 15:28:26 it's got a different threat model 15:28:51 I've got no complete answer for you, and only to say I won't use i2p because it's written in java 15:29:21 Ah, haven't gotten to that part yet. Didn't know it was java... 15:29:46 there might be alternative implementations, and I'm sure it's improved since I tried it oh so many years ago 15:31:51 Yea there are a few different ways in implement it and says here I can use it as a proxy if I want. I'm wondering if I could use both TOR and I2P together, but not I2P as proxy because I dont think it would work with TOR like that 15:40:03 agh fuck why am I having intelligent discussion on facebook 15:40:13 * cayce stands in the corner of shame 15:40:26 haha that'd be fun 15:40:38 tor for source disattribution into i2p with anonymity 15:40:42 that would be some shit 15:41:31 yea and I want to add a VPN with all that :) 15:41:44 Just trying to figure out exactly how I want to do it 15:41:51 best idea would be to combine that with a chaos box 15:41:59 and not kill my connection speed entirely lol 15:42:59 hmm, can't find the wiki with chaos box directions anymore, must be down 15:43:16 anyway, unattributed box in unknown location you ssh into via tor 15:43:47 runs something like openbsd so you can share the box with lots of other chaos box users and not fuck eachother's data 15:48:15 Thanks for the advice 16:02:31 *** beowulf has quit (Client exited) 16:04:00 *** beowulf (beowulf@beowulf.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 16:09:53 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@cryto-610769D0.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #crytocc 16:15:53 *** Pandora (Pandora__@cryto-1D51B44C.ighost.se) has joined #crytocc 16:32:38 *** beowulf has quit (Broken pipe) 16:33:46 *** beowulf (beowulf@beowulf.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 16:44:36 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 16:47:21 *** beowulf has quit (User quit: Leaving) 17:12:45 *** zxcvbnm (zxcvbnm@zxcvbnm.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 17:14:24 *** dpk (r00t@496A344A.3B159504.3C91FAEE.IP) has joined #crytocc 17:14:51 *** Zekka (zekka@cryto-3375819E.arizona.edu) has joined #crytocc 17:25:09 *** Cryto542 (Cryto542@DE68DBD4.5C5EE9A7.75EBA554.IP) has joined #crytocc 17:26:55 *** WriterAnonymous (WriterAnon@DE68DBD4.5C5EE9A7.75EBA554.IP) has joined #crytocc 17:28:17 *** WriterAnonymous has quit (User quit: Page closed) 17:29:54 *** Cryto542 has quit (Ping timeout) 17:41:38 *** ElectRo` (x@cryto-A3005E24.la.net.ua) has joined #crytocc 17:42:42 future reference; I2P is not intended to be used as an outproxy 17:42:52 ie. proxy to clearnet 17:42:57 it's technically possible but not advised 17:47:14 today is a crazy day for bitcoins/litecoins 17:50:19 joepie91 17:50:29 should i take my btc out? 17:50:30 yes, vld? 17:50:34 uh 17:50:37 why? 17:50:50 afraid of going down 17:51:23 if you use it as a transactional currency, that shouldn't matter... if you use it as an investment, I'm the wrong person to give you advice 17:51:24 :P 17:52:59 i could sell now and buy back when it falls 17:53:39 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 17:57:26 seriously MK_FG 17:57:37 remember that Russian guitarist I always link you to? 17:57:41 Andrey Korolev 17:57:48 I do, yeah 17:57:54 dude. I really think he's one of the best guitarists, ever 17:57:56 like 17:57:58 wow 17:58:37 Can't raelly comment on that, I don't play guitar and not that much into guitar music 17:58:44 yeah 17:58:52 well, my ears get eargasms from his music 17:59:13 right 17:59:21 my brain rather 17:59:23 or w/e 17:59:30 so a cop in NL has gotten his own show on the regional TV channel, basically 17:59:33 following him around 17:59:40 and they "blurred" some stuff for "privacy" 17:59:47 except this is probably the worst attempt at blurring I've ever seen 17:59:53 the average kid on YT can do this better 18:00:02 iceTwy, "best" wrt music gotta be subjective anyway 18:00:33 I.e. I bet there's no shortage of people who'll like other guitar music more 18:00:58