00:50:27 .bitcoins 00:50:28 .bitcoin 00:50:29 1 BTC = $597.10, 1 BTC = €468.45 00:57:51 haha 00:57:52 yeah. 01:16:43 *** Riddler (Riddler@cryto-1D9B597A.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 01:16:46 hello 01:17:57 primarily dicks 01:23:51 *** joepie91 (joepie91@cryto-3E6002EF.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 01:39:00 *** Riddler has quit (Ping timeout) 02:10:26 *** IR601 has quit (Ping timeout) 02:14:52 *** IR601 (root@cryto-E0B662A7.abu.se.net) has joined #crytocc 02:25:55 *** Charles (Charles@Charles.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 02:26:26 * joepie91 puts multihate on watch 02:26:57 right? 02:27:20 cayce: see yesterdays logs 02:27:28 http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2013-11-20 02:28:01 from a cursory reading, he is coming -dangerously- close to breaking at least one channel rule, and possibly a second 02:28:28 and judging from his Twitter account, this is absolutely not the right channel for whatever he's doing, and I suspect he hasn't read the channel topic 02:28:39 or really done any research into what this channel is for/about at all, for that matter 02:29:01 like almost every other person who comes in here 02:29:04 *** nobodycares (chatzilla@nobodycares.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 02:29:04 what a fucking surprise 02:29:05 lo 02:29:06 no, not really 02:29:24 hai joepie91 02:29:27 hai pzuraq 02:29:34 *** Ari (Ari@Ari.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 02:29:34 nah hes just really keen on bringing down pedos that he forgot some rules 02:29:54 Charles: that is his problem, if he makes it mine then he will see the consequences of that 02:29:57 ain't no forget, they're right there 02:30:02 ie. a kick from the channel if he can not follow the rules 02:30:12 the rules are there for a reason 02:30:19 there's only 3 of them, abiding by them isn't hard 02:30:22 how's life? 02:30:49 tl;dr if he makes his problem my problem, then I will make my problem his problem 02:31:04 pzuraq: generally okay, but a bit bothered by the direction things are going in for the past few days 02:31:08 joepie91, alright 02:32:41 and I'll gladly discuss the topic of his "pedo hunt" (and I strongly suspect it's going to be yet another misdirected one, but that aside), but not if it's going to cause problems for this channel 02:41:08 sigh 02:41:46 joepie91, ello. 02:41:48 how are you? 02:42:17 ohai 02:42:20 pzuraq: generally okay, but a bit bothered by the direction things are going in for the past few days 02:42:25 that, basically 02:42:34 though I did make some progress with my whois thing 02:42:52 ah kewl mate 02:43:51 probably; https://github.com/joepie91/python-whois/blob/a6828733f06698c554fa332f5d8d3b8107c8ec58/pythonwhois/parse.py 02:45:13 hmm nice 02:45:33 it can parse a bunch of stuff now 02:45:41 including registrant info 02:45:42 but a lot of work left 02:46:32 ah nice. 02:46:36 *** lblissett has quit (Input/output error) 02:46:39 lol joepie91 I just found BlueCP, remember that? 02:46:40 lol 02:47:13 *** lblissett (lblissett@9263BECD.A781E0E7.2BF22074.IP) has joined #crytocc 02:47:31 joepie91, you use default PHP autoloader in cphp at all? 02:48:11 also, please tell me you have a newer cPHP.... 02:48:17 if(mysql_connect($cphp_mysql_host, $cphp_mysql_user, $cphp_mysql_pass)) 02:48:18 { 02:50:27 joepie91, you use default PHP autoloader in cphp at all? 02:50:28 yes 02:50:36 re: mysql, you're almost certainly looking at a very old version 02:50:49 joepie91: Where could I locate the new version, then? 02:50:51 mysql_ has been deprecated in CPHP for god knows how long now 02:51:07 https://github.com/joepie91/cphp/tree/develop 02:51:16 or if you want UUID support 02:51:17 https://github.com/joepie91/cphp/tree/feature/orm-uuid 02:51:24 but that's still a more experimental branch 02:51:55 Ever get any proper documentation on cphp yet? Or is it still, "out there" basically. 02:52:50 probably: technically the first stable version isn't released yet 02:52:53 and the docs are still lacking 02:53:02 the docs that exist are somewhat outdated, and definitely incomplete 02:53:11 but I'm working on first stable release, I just want to do more testing with UUIDs first 02:53:15 and need to document stuff still 02:54:47 hmm 02:55:01 because it would be nice to have documentation, so I could 'play around' with it :) 02:55:29 well, it's coming soon :P 02:55:40 any idea how soon? 02:57:52 when it's done (tm) 02:59:39 mmk 03:03:16 :P 03:16:23 *** Charles has quit (Client exited) 03:20:54 :) 03:23:05 joepie91: I'm considering writing a book arguing that the future economy should be based off of the model presented by the open source community 03:23:17 wat think? 03:24:02 I would say that there should be no economy at all, but do elaborate on your idea :P 03:25:23 firstly I think the best way to try to model any potential economy is to base it on a real world example, if only because it proves that it works and given the right circumstances it can be emulated 03:25:51 and I do think the open source community is an excellent model, in that it is much better than the current system 03:26:57 it drives innovation, picks the best (or atleast rather good ideas), and manages to encourage cooperation between people and competition between ideas 03:27:10 but I like to approach it from a different angle 03:27:21 that is, what is the ideal world? 03:27:38 *** LoneWarrior (LoneWarrio@cryto-B3488B81.dfri.se) has joined #crytocc 03:28:17 now, this is obviously not something that can be agreed upon, let alone exist, but I have a pretty broad vision that I think works for most people, possibly yourself included 03:28:38 in the ideal world, everything would be completely decentralized. 03:29:19 Every person would be capable of making their own food, purifying their own water, building their own machines, generating their own electricity, etc 03:29:34 they wouldn't be forced to, they simply would be able to 03:29:37 *** Charles (Charles@Charles.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 03:29:55 what they do with that ability is up to them. 03:30:06 Band together in communities, seek solitude 03:31:11 an anarchistic world, as you once described to me, in which there is not an enforced absence of government, but an absence of enforced government. 03:32:01 in order to facilitate this world in its ideal state, I hypothesize that three peak technologies would be required 03:34:02 a personal infinite source of energy dubbed the Source, a communicator dubbed the Ansible, and a machine that given the proper specifications could produce anything dubbed the Replicator 03:34:51 a key note about the Ansible is it must be able to connect to any other Ansible without infrastructure, direct connection 03:35:08 now, these devices are purely theoretical ideals 03:35:28 they may never be feasible given the realities of physics 03:35:45 SOMEWHERE DEEP IN THE WOODS 03:35:54 but, together they would allow for this society to prosper. 03:35:55 I KNOW YOURE HIDING 03:36:18 WHAT IS YR SOUND 03:36:28 WILL WE EVER KNOW? 03:36:33 Charles 03:36:35 cut it out 03:37:04 it will always be a mystery joepie91 :) 03:37:19 Charles: you are interrupting somebodies explanation for no good reason 03:37:20 eplicator would be used to build things from plans downloaded via Ansible, and the Source would power them. 03:38:59 in this environment, inherently post-scarcity, open source would thrive as a method for allocating resources (mostly people's time) 03:39:29 people would only need to do what they wanted, and i would argue that many (though not all) would want to contribute 03:39:47 pzuraq, what r u explaining? o_o 03:40:02 Charles, this is why we have public logs 03:40:04 loggy, pointer? 03:40:04 http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2013-11-21#T03-40-04 03:40:22 the rest of it is simply adding more constraints to our theoretical devices, and guesstimating when the new economic systom will come into place by outcompeting the older one 03:40:27 which I believe it will 03:40:48 pzuraq: I can't help but feel like we're not far off this 03:40:57 I think this will be somewhere in the next 50-200 years, depending on advances 03:41:01 with the whole 3d printer and open source model thing 03:41:05 especially combined with solar power and such 03:41:07 we draw closer every day :) 03:41:11 mmhmm 03:41:37 oh 3D printer? 03:41:41 wat. 03:41:54 but I'd really like to delves into these ideas, formalize them, and research them as much as possible 03:41:59 I would like to go to MARS! 03:42:08 maybe a Malcolm Gladwell style book 03:42:39 * joepie91 is increasingly starting to run out of patience 03:43:23 lol LoneWarrior 03:44:35 if I reach there first ill make sure every one is call "Anon" and we have free internet 03:44:36 I suppose I'll have to read this, half a sec 03:45:12 read 03:45:12 the 03:45:13 goddamn 03:45:14 channel 03:45:15 rules 03:45:24 I am getting very fucking tired of certain people here 03:46:05 *** LoneWarrior (LoneWarrio@cryto-B3488B81.dfri.se) has joined #crytocc 03:46:06 pzuraq is trying to explain something, and he should be able to do so without being interrupted by people who have zero regard for what this channel is for or about, or what other people are trying to discuss 03:46:14 * cayce scrolls up 03:46:20 when those interruptions then also directly break the channel rules 03:46:26 it gets even worse 03:47:15 all great that you want to join in this channel, but take a few days to get familiar with other people and the channel atmosphere first, and adapt, instead of bulldozering through other peoples conversations with zero regard for others 03:47:24 yes? 03:47:45 _!_ 03:47:47 joepie91, try running #web for a day ;) 03:48:04 no its *_|_ 03:48:04 not _!_ 03:48:31 breaking a channel rule here means you are instantly eligible for a kick 03:48:42 continued breaking of the channel rules will result in a permanentt ban 03:48:44 permanent * 03:48:45 sorry joepie91 i understand. im not talking about payback but what u did on my channel was also considered "interrupting" aye? 03:48:55 daemon: What's web about? Webdev hypothetically? 03:48:59 Charles: yes, and it is up to you to decide how to deal with that 03:49:09 that is entirely unrelated to what is going on here 03:49:15 i kicked u. and u came back. ._. 03:49:20 anyway, nvm. 03:49:25 pls continue 03:49:25 Charles: yes, I have autorejoin turned on like most people 03:49:26 with the discussion 03:49:56 pzuraq, and related topic 03:50:17 pzuraq:) hit up la via campesina for the farming aspects, we've got that shit down already. re: communicator, we're getting dangerously close to that in smartphones atm, though of course it'd need to be less centralized (see how android OS has been centralized recently), etc 03:50:27 pzuraq:) so, we're close. we've got building blocks/ 03:50:57 Anyways, I really just want to spread these ideas. I want to get the idea that open source, given the right circumstances, can be inherently better than capitalism. 03:51:44 cayce: One key thing about the point of viability is that it requires that a relatively small group of people can both self-sustain AND keep up to pace with modern technology 03:51:45 if you want to study alternatives, check out how cuba's handling decentralized organic agriculture 03:51:51 they've got challenges, but it's getting better every day 03:52:18 that would happen anyway 03:52:22 this is because if people cannot provide their own advances in tech, they will seek it from those who can 03:52:27 yes, absolutely 03:52:28 volunteerism pushes things forward according to interest 03:52:40 that's open source 03:52:50 which is why there are loads of great software and a dearth of bad docs 03:52:54 but it will be a while before 3d printers can print modern circuits 03:53:01 aye 03:53:07 maybe decades, maybe longer 03:53:33 however, I think it will be a trend as soon os 3d printers hit the market to move more and more off the grid, so te speak 03:53:38 well they're only a couple years old in-home, and we're already working on organic alternatives to plastic 03:53:53 so like 03:53:55 not so far off 03:54:02 *** HiveResearch has quit (Ping timeout) 03:54:12 decentralized food production will happen first 03:54:13 but also, even if it's 50 years, that is still our lifetime 03:54:20 once hydropincs make it easy 03:54:28 hydroponics* 03:54:28 don't need hydro 03:54:40 small plot farming is extremely efficient 03:54:44 no need to replace nature 03:55:00 true, but I'm assuming that people will want to be lazy for 2 reasons 03:55:10 might want to define lazy 03:55:30 old school ag, like "fertile crescent" ag, was only 4-6 hours per day 03:55:39 that is already half of what most people spend working now 03:55:41 *** daemon has parted #crytocc (None) 03:55:41 *** daemon (daemon@4120F12E.4AF344D2.AFA7AD20.IP) has joined #crytocc 03:55:45 and it was unoptimized 03:55:54 one, they will likely be bought into the system still (jobs) to get the things they want but cannot provide themselves (new tech, unneeded conusmer fluff) 03:56:24 thus a large portion of the day is spent working, so automation will be the tipping point 03:56:30 I get those things now by barter. I trade work I am expert in for goods 03:56:56 (cash is not useful to me, heh) 03:57:03 *** prism (daemon@4120F12E.4AF344D2.AFA7AD20.IP) has joined #crytocc 03:57:08 and I think more people will (and are) going to take that path as time goes on 03:57:13 *** prism has quit (User quit: Leaving) 03:57:24 but, being pessimistic, I think it will take much longer to convince the masses 03:57:45 well, maybe not much longer 03:57:46 go uh 03:57:50 whats his name 03:57:57 automated farms are coming up 03:58:04 go talk to @leashless about it (yes, twitter handle) 03:58:16 automated farms are not efficient though 03:58:23 they are uniform, not efficient 03:58:28 none of this is efficient 03:58:34 that's the downside 03:58:41 actually hand farming is pretty efficient 03:58:48 a few acres? 03:58:56 hand farming yes, but what I'm talking about 03:59:04 for this to really happen, we need a breakthrough in energy 03:59:06 yeah 03:59:23 but if it's going to work, something must make up for the lack of.. call it economic efficiency 03:59:34 social efficiency is an option :) 03:59:40 cultural too 03:59:58 I think in the future, when people don't have jobs and are self sufficient, there will be a lot of hand farming 04:00:01 but, this is where the arts come from -- people able to work on things that do not contribute direct wealth 04:00:06 but it's a tipping point 04:00:19 we need to get enough people to buy out of the current system 04:00:35 if the protests everywhere are any indication, we've got issues 04:00:35 my thought is lets make the alternative an offer they can't refuse 04:00:38 true 04:00:49 dunno if its "boot out of capitalism" issues, but issues is a good place to start outreach 04:00:52 *** paul (paul@cryto-60401691.daemonrage.net) has joined #crytocc 04:01:26 I tend to be content with theorizing 04:01:34 which is something I'm not proud of 04:01:41 hehe 04:01:57 and I refuse to not immediately try to come up with a litmus test for theories 04:01:58 :P 04:02:09 lol 04:02:14 what's the test for mine? 04:02:17 seems to play well together! 04:02:28 questions like "what does success look like" are great places to start 04:02:35 hmm 04:02:43 short term, medium term, or long term? 04:02:44 do not answer it 04:02:55 keep the question until you have filled your ideas out :) 04:03:05 and then, yes, all three. paint a picture 04:03:24 because short/med/long is the transition to the system, in three parts 04:03:25 :P 04:04:01 people will probably not like my timeline 04:04:09 the long term is measured in millenia 04:04:12 then don't set one 04:04:16 stick to "short medium long" 04:04:21 and do not define what those words mean 04:04:40 good point 04:04:43 I frame everything as things that can be accomplished in my lifetime 04:04:47 it's a good metric for me 04:05:03 so, optimistically 70 more years 04:05:08 probably closer to 60 04:05:19 well, you read my description of the three devices no? 04:05:22 yep 04:05:48 all the tech will be done in <50 years, most of it's already here 04:05:57 (tbh a push could get the tech in 10) 04:06:08 but, migration and things is a whole other problem 04:06:12 they are peak technologies. Understand that the replicator can make anything out of *anything*. We are talking breaking atoms apart and reassembling them. 04:06:30 but it's like the article I saw asking about why blogs took so long to develop 04:06:43 we had the tech for blogs as soon as mosaic worked 04:06:50 and yet it took till 2001 04:07:00 we didn't get blogger we got geocities 04:07:01 why 04:07:10 "because we didn't know what we were doing" 04:07:15 true 04:07:35 and that's a key observation 04:07:42 just like with bitcoin, nothing in it is novel 04:07:49 nothing at all 04:07:53 but this is a different level of technology. That's why i'm considering leaving it out all together, perhaps as a separate essay. 04:07:57 and yet, it's a "wholly new groundbreaking blah blah blah" 04:08:12 made of old tech 04:08:22 we've had it all for years 04:08:25 but bitcoin happens now 04:08:34 (well, 4 years ago, whatever) 04:08:44 (but why not 4 years before that? heh) 04:08:51 I agree, but these are very socially based constructs 04:09:02 yes, this is my focus 04:09:03 culture 04:09:04 :P 04:09:08 the power of the replicator is not something in the near future 04:09:16 it may never exist at all 04:09:33 if someone decides it will exist, it will happen in our lifetime 04:09:34 end of story 04:09:41 will you be that person? 04:09:51 haha, I love your optimism 04:09:54 or will you contribute by inspiring them? 04:10:00 it's refreshing :) 04:10:08 you literally cannot stop my optimism, haha. many have tried, all have failed :D 04:10:42 It's why I take some of the things I learn and write them down as essays 04:10:51 I will try to inspire, that is my goal. 04:10:57 I need to start blogging. 04:11:06 learn about the nature of reality and people, not like calculus or theories of globalization or something 04:11:17 though I may have to write a theory of globalization late next year 04:11:24 lol capstone 04:11:50 eh, I tend to approach things from the other direction first, the theoretical 04:11:58 then I add constraints 04:12:04 we do that too 04:12:08 I call it jawbreaker construction 04:12:09 that's what my major it 04:12:12 is * 04:12:27 learn every single theoretical framework 04:12:34 and the debugging information 04:12:47 and apply it in novel ways, or in new situations 04:12:53 that's the frame of my major 04:12:54 :P 04:13:00 that's good 04:13:12 you study poli-sci? 04:13:45 haha no 04:13:57 though I was one class short of a degree in it 04:14:03 :P 04:14:20 hmm, sociology? 04:14:34 nope, but I've studied that too 04:14:43 anthropology, psychology, what else 04:14:56 calculus, computer science 04:15:15 you like college 04:15:39 and my cold war history course is being taught by a woman who debriefed soviet nuclear scientists after the collapse of the ussr 04:15:45 I like learning 04:15:47 :) 04:16:03 I can see 04:16:09 People called me a know it all when I was small 04:16:10 learning is fun until it has no use 04:16:14 so I figured I'd just embrace it 04:16:25 :/ knowitall? 04:16:26 Charles: There are few things that have less use 04:16:37 I know they meant it as an insult, but I have changed this power structure 04:16:38 * Charles is not convinced xD 04:16:50 then you are well and truly worthless 04:16:56 eh 04:17:04 not you, pzuraq 04:17:06 :P 04:17:06 I wouldn't be so quick to judge worth 04:17:14 you folks takeing your meds 04:17:20 hey hey cayce 04:17:26 dont think too much of urself 04:17:26 Charles:) satan 04:17:27 :P 04:17:37 I don't 04:17:42 I'm nobody 04:17:49 okay 04:17:52 LoneWarrior: They keep the voices quiet ;) 04:18:09 * Charles finds this label of cayce acceptable 04:18:25 what a troll 04:18:35 you can pass on to other waters 04:18:57 * Charles is still listening to the fox 04:19:07 what is ur soundd 04:19:39 the fox? 04:19:55 dey jus discoverd a med...dey call it "get out of ur dreams" & "Shut the F* up" pls take them 04:20:14 * joepie91 finger hovers over a shiny button 04:20:27 what does the fox say 04:20:58 daemon: Did you mean #web on freenode? 04:21:05 it was a viral vid and still is 04:21:26 by some norwegian comedians 04:23:22 LoneWarrior: I strongly suggest you start behaving; otherwise you may find yourself removed from this channel 04:25:28 I apologies 04:27:01 *** LoneWarrior has parted #crytocc () 04:40:31 .bitcoin 04:40:32 1 BTC = $602.99, 1 BTC = €450.00 04:42:15 :( 04:42:20 nooooo stay loooooow 04:42:47 haha 04:42:56 it dropped to 400+ 04:43:01 but i want 300 04:43:11 :( 04:43:36 you and I both Charles 04:43:39 you and I both 04:48:07 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 04:57:38 https://github.com/joepie91/python-whois/commit/056743370a790bec7eb5f57a3f5c01dad8803e2c 04:57:42 well that only cost me a few years of my life 04:57:43 lol 04:58:42 heh 04:59:17 * Charles opens link 04:59:37 * Charles sees fireworks 05:00:16 * Charles goes back to cryto 05:02:08 *** mama (me@cryto-70E29873.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 05:05:03 *** S1renide (S1renide@cryto-46FA45B3.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 05:06:25 *** S1renide has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 05:17:24 *** Charles has quit (Ping timeout) 05:18:40 *** Charles (Charles@Charles.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 05:27:54 *** Ari has quit (Connection reset by peer) 05:31:32 interesting article: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-animal-connection/201111/why-do-rape-and-pedophilia-exist 05:36:12 *** multihate (multihate@cryto-54326F0E.ipredator.se) has joined #crytocc 05:38:47 ... 05:41:27 * cayce writes careful mail 05:42:18 *** nobodycares_ 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10develop: '02Label correctly' (https://github.com/joepie91/python-whois/compare/cf9564673b...8484142db7) 07:32:21 *** Charles (Charles@Charles.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 08:14:48 *** nobodycares_ (chatzilla@A8D5DFF4.3E704BE1.DF6106DE.IP) has joined #crytocc 08:15:21 *** nobodycares has quit (Ping timeout) 08:15:23 *** nobodycares_ is now known as nobodycares 08:19:37 04joepie91 made 2 commit(s) to 03python-whois on branch 10develop: '02Add .dk testcase', '02Support for .pw domains' (https://github.com/joepie91/python-whois/compare/8484142db7...f063fe2529) 08:36:50 Now I also fixed touchpad connector in laptop and everything works there \o/ 08:37:00 Imma mastar fixer 08:37:34 :D 08:37:53 Now I have problem of choice 08:38:04 ...even harder problem, that is 08:38:36 To have two dev machines or maybe leave laptop as just simplier internets client... 08:38:53 And not bother syncing repos, dev envs and such there 08:39:45 Or leave desktop just for stupid games 08:40:41 Aaargh, it's just unbearable *smashes laptop 'till its broken* 08:41:44 yay games :D 08:42:41 yay yay 08:42:57 yay :D 08:43:12 They seem to be less addictive than code or internets though 08:43:28 keep the games :) 08:43:44 I can tear myself away from game, but when I work on something, it's always "one more thing and I'm done" 08:46:04 Yeah, screw it, will add some admin work and try to setup some cool sync for dev stuff between the two 08:46:31 Should be interesting to explore git-annex and related things for that maybe 08:48:18 :) 08:52:48 *** complex has quit (Input/output error) 09:01:26 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03python-whois on branch 10develop: '02Add support for InterNetworX domains' (https://github.com/joepie91/python-whois/compare/f063fe2529...e35140e3a2) 09:06:38 *** anonnews736 (anonnews73@60F0BC49.9144D476.78C94033.IP) has joined #crytocc 09:12:27 *** Charles has quit (Client exited) 09:14:18 *** nobodycares has quit (Ping timeout) 09:15:11 *** nobodycares 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11:57:02 or bad joke 11:57:05 or actually serious 11:57:06 http://www.freeross.org/ 11:57:12 .title 11:57:13 iceTwy: Free Ross Ulbricht | The Official Defense Site of the Ulbricht Family 12:01:52 *** Charles has quit (Client exited) 12:15:37 *** Charles (Charles@Charles.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 12:16:22 it's that time of the day again: 12:16:25 NP: Epiphany by Intervals - from In Time (2012) 12:24:06 *** iceTwy has quit (Ping timeout) 12:32:20 *** foolex has quit (Ping timeout) 12:40:01 *** foolex (foolex@5D6B0912.EC145393.9A74EEF1.IP) has joined #crytocc 13:05:03 *** THX1337b (THX1337b@cryto-5AD5458F.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 13:06:25 *** THX1337b has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 13:11:35 *** Charles has quit (Client exited) 13:12:43 *** Charles (Charles@Charles.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 13:42:24 iceTwy 13:42:33 .bitcoin 13:42:34 1 BTC = $676.10, 1 BTC = €505.00 13:51:42 *** foolex has quit (Ping timeout) 13:54:34 *** foolex 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"Socialism." 15:28:46 *** Charles (Charles@Charles.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 15:48:31 *** ElectRo` has quit (Client exited) 15:48:57 *** Charles has parted #crytocc (None) 15:48:59 04joepie91 made 3 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10feature/vagrant: '02Bootstrap fixes, and finally gotten SleekXMPP new_muc installed correctly', '02Create and populate database in bootstrap script', '02Add Envoy setup to bootstrapping script' (https://github.com/KnightSwarm/Envoy/compare/1e09b07dad...c11777754b) 16:14:55 *** ElectRo` (x@cryto-54326F0E.ipredator.se) has joined #crytocc 16:22:52 .bitcoin 16:22:53 1 BTC = $692.00, 1 BTC = €532.86 16:22:58 almost there 16:23:43 Im mite cash out at 700 16:23:51 Or post a offer for 800 16:24:02 and wait for that 16:24:13 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 16:34:44 *** lblissett has quit (Ping timeout) 16:35:11 *** lblissett (lblissett@cryto-FAA14C7F.noisetor.net) has joined #crytocc 16:49:51 *** multihate (multihate@56D251F6.D046F672.6EA5139E.IP) has joined #crytocc 16:50:16 hi 16:51:23 *** lblissett has quit (Ping timeout) 16:52:31 *** lblissett (lblissett@cryto-CF95923E.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 16:53:30 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10feature/vagrant: '02Fixes and making Envoy stuff work...' (https://github.com/KnightSwarm/Envoy/compare/c11777754b...c2e7f49127) 17:00:24 .bitcoin 17:00:25 1 BTC = $692.00, 1 BTC = €550.00 17:00:58 mtgox low is 702 17:01:06 igh is 770 17:04:14 .bitcoin 17:04:15 ValueError: No JSON object could be decoded (file "/usr/lib/python2.6/json/decoder.py", line 338, in raw_decode) 17:04:19 .bitcoin 17:04:20 ValueError: No JSON object could be decoded (file "/usr/lib/python2.6/json/decoder.py", line 338, in raw_decode) 17:04:23 joepie91 17:04:30 its borken 17:04:39 its borken 17:04:40 .bitcoin 17:04:41 1 BTC = $700.00, 1 BTC = €545.00 17:04:44 YEAH 17:04:47 700 17:04:50 EPIC 17:04:54 WOOP WOOP 17:11:46 no it's not 17:11:47 :D 17:14:26 .bitcoin 17:14:27 KeyError: 'EUR' (file "/home/phenny/phenny/modules/bitcoin.py", line 19, in getrate) 17:14:31 :/ 17:14:41 ^ 17:14:46 ----------------------------^ 17:14:52 .bitcoin 17:14:53 KeyError: 'EUR' (file "/home/phenny/phenny/modules/bitcoin.py", line 19, in getrate) 17:15:57 .bitcoin 17:15:58 1 BTC = $700.00, 1 BTC = €538.00 17:16:03 lel 17:16:05 its broken 17:26:21 *** nobodycares has parted #crytocc () 17:27:59 *** GHOSTnew has quit (User quit: Quitte) 17:28:26 *** GHOSTnew (GHOSTnew@GHOSTnew.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 17:37:51 hmmm 17:37:59 *** zxcvbnm has quit (User quit: Lost terminal) 17:38:01 How can USD uncress and the euro decress 17:38:08 How can USD incress and the euro decress 17:38:18 the system is broken 17:41:41 what? 17:46:00 tides go in, tides go out... 17:50:26 .bitcoin 17:50:27 1 BTC = $694.23, 1 BTC = €538.75 17:50:31 lol nub bot 17:52:22 *** GHOSTnew has quit (Ping timeout) 17:53:24 *** GHOSTnew (GHOSTnew@GHOSTnew.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 17:53:56 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 18:08:56 *** Zekka (zekka@cryto-C41ED371.arizona.edu) has joined #crytocc 18:10:46 *** evisu (evisu@evisu.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 18:15:22 *** Riddler (Riddler@5FD71087.11DC8350.1A26DB37.IP) has joined #crytocc 18:15:24 hello 18:21:40 *** Sonic (Mcloven@cryto-9F42E372.static.internode.on.net) has joined #crytocc 18:28:00 *** Riddler has parted #crytocc () 18:28:41 *** joepie91 has quit (Ping timeout) 18:36:40 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 18:37:15 *** Zekka (zekka@Zekka.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 18:50:00 *** lblissett has quit (Input/output error) 18:53:37 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@cryto-610769D0.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #crytocc 18:53:51 heh 18:54:01 good guy GitHub 18:54:02 To the strong credit of GitHub, the site said it uses the bcrypt algorithm to cryptographically hash passwords. 18:54:08 http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/11/github-resets-user-passwords-following-rash-of-account-hijack-attacks/ 18:54:46 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 19:01:44 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-BAE76FBA.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 19:05:39 *** Cryto190 (Cryto190@cryto-FA256CEC.lightspeed.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net) has joined #crytocc 19:05:46 *** Cryto190 has quit (User quit: Cryto190) 19:11:06 My response to that is https://github.com/musalbas/KeypairAuth 19:13:31 eh 19:14:17 See the bottom of http://cryto.net/~joepie91/ 19:14:48 With public/private key authentication, that article wouldn't have to exist 19:19:24 Also 19:19:25 [13:01] [11:57:00] not sure if troll 19:19:25 [13:01] [11:57:02] or bad joke 19:19:25 [13:01] [11:57:05] or actually serious 19:19:25 [13:01] [11:57:06] http://www.freeross.org/ 19:20:27 It's not a troll. Some people support the drug market for philosophical and moral reasons, the same way people passionately support piracy/The Pirate Bay. Not all of them are doing it with no moral thought. 19:21:51 But that website doesn't seem to have any philosophical motivations, seems like a website setup by friends and family wanting to give him a fair trial. 19:21:53 *** GHOSTnew has quit (Ping timeout) 19:22:29 "Our goal is to provide Ross with what every American citizen is promised: a fair trial. In the USA we are presumed innocent until proven guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt. We firmly believe in Ross’ innocence and are working hard with the best legal team to prove it." 19:23:23 *** GHOSTnew (GHOSTnew@GHOSTnew.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 19:24:59 *** Zekka (zekka@Zekka.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 19:41:03 *** mama (me@cryto-6246D134.chrismail.de) has joined #crytocc 19:41:40 *** GHOSTnew has quit (Ping timeout) 19:42:40 *** GHOSTnew (GHOSTnew@GHOSTnew.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 19:46:47 lysobit: nonono 19:46:51 I'm not talking about the trial 19:46:54 or supporting Ross 19:47:14 .bitcoin 19:47:14 1 BTC = $696.14, 1 BTC = €525.20 19:47:20 woah 19:47:24 I'm just saying that the website itself is a big joke lol 19:47:35 1. it does not give a proper presentation of Ross 19:47:59 it feels so much like one of these "oh yeah he's a tender person who loves his family" kinda descriptions 19:48:13 that makes him look like a suspicious innocent guy 19:48:29 2. no BTC address for BTC donations? come on man 19:50:32 3. horrible design 20:02:53 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 20:30:55 *** asdf (asdf@cryto-118E2B71.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 20:31:09 *** probably has quit (Client exited) 20:50:49 *** Zekka (zekka@cryto-74FD93F5.arizona.edu) has joined #crytocc 20:50:51 hmm 20:50:55 this is interesting 20:51:14 I'm scripting my little AUR-API based Python script 20:52:27 here's what I've got so far; https://iceb.in/paste/WcaGQUxq#Qv4yMt74Jnaf2vGVTQCoeKxg/zCpdRdKH4W96yACvyY= 20:53:06 however aur_api_result is not empty even with a wrong packagen ame 20:53:07 name* 20:53:28 i.e. a package that doesn't exist. if that happens, aur_api_result should be an empty dict i.e. [] 20:53:40 erm, results* 20:55:01 ah 20:55:06 obviously, here's what I get: No request type/data specified. 20:58:43 bleh, fixed it 21:13:30 *** lblissett (lblissett@cryto-C630644E.is.a.tor.exit.server.torland.is) has joined #crytocc 21:18:26 *** Snpvc (Snpvc@cryto-D87797BE.red-79-156-85.staticip.rima-tde.net) has joined #crytocc 21:38:52 *** Ari (Ari@Ari.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 22:05:05 *** T0R_till (T0R_till@cryto-E4D50362.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 22:06:31 *** T0R_till has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 22:25:13 *** complex (litehode@complex.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 22:26:11 yay 22:34:20 so it looks like bitcoin will be taxed from what i see 22:35:41 https://gist.github.com/iceTwy/7591026 22:35:44 complex: who cares, LTC won't be 22:36:19 yeah, thats what i was thinkig 22:37:02 *** chrintina-t665 has quit (Ping timeout) 22:39:29 *** complex has quit (Input/output error) 23:01:51 .bitcoin 23:01:52 1 BTC = $723.50, 1 BTC = €557.00 23:01:57 fsck 23:14:30 *** iceTwy has quit (User quit: Disconnecting from server) 23:18:31 .bitcoin 23:18:32 1 BTC = $724.99, 1 BTC = €565.00 23:30:09 goddamn man I wish I had bought 23:30:16 I almost bought at $100 23:30:19 fsck 23:30:25 not making that mistake again 23:47:11 yeah, that's what they all say 23:47:23 next year you'll be saying "I almost bought at $700"