00:24:14 I didnt buy at anything 00:24:19 All mine are generated 00:24:24 i kinda want to exchange 00:24:28 or buy stuff with my BTC 00:27:34 *** DrWhat has quit (Ping timeout) 00:31:41 *** pzuraq has quit (User quit: Leaving...) 01:19:24 *** Snpvc has quit (User quit: ) 01:30:24 *** DrWhat (Snake@DrWhat.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 01:30:27 .bitcoin 01:30:28 1 BTC = $719.99, 1 BTC = €557.00 01:31:46 *** Charles (Charles@Charles.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 01:48:52 *** joepie91 (joepie91@cryto-3E6002EF.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 01:51:11 *** Charles has quit (Client exited) 01:51:34 *** Charles (Charles@Charles.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 01:53:39 .bitcoin 01:53:40 1 BTC = $720.00, 1 BTC = €555.00 02:11:01 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 02:16:25 *** Charles has quit (Client exited) 02:34:32 *** x (foobar@C35CA8A8.589C91BA.8F6A2B14.IP) has joined #crytocc 02:39:18 morning 02:39:20 loggy, pointer? 02:39:20 http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2013-11-22#T02-39-20 02:40:20 oh... what? 02:40:22 uh * 02:40:26 22:34:20 so it looks like bitcoin will be taxed from what i see 02:40:26 22:35:44 complex: who cares, LTC won't be 02:40:26 22:36:19 yeah, thats what i was thinkig 02:40:42 1. of course Bitcoin will be taxed, just like everything else is taxed regardless of whether it's government-mandated currency or not 02:40:55 2. how would that be any different for LTC? 02:41:09 and I just noticed that neither of the two conversation participants are actually here right now so I guess I'll have to repeat that later 02:41:31 joepie91: OpenSUSE or Debian? 02:41:39 yes 02:41:45 asdf:) yes. 02:42:01 asdf: <3 02:42:22 joepie91: o/ 02:43:25 lel 02:43:27 x <3 02:43:29 lol 02:43:35 asdf: desktop or server? 02:43:41 ohai x 02:43:43 joepie91: server 02:43:46 debian 02:43:53 :) 02:43:58 x is geh 02:44:12 * x slaps asdf 02:44:14 r00d 02:44:17 * asdf cries 02:44:23 * x comforts 02:44:23 opensuse is nice for desktop use, but a bit unnecessarily bulky for a server :P 02:44:30 and the ecosystem for debian seems better wrt servers 03:00:13 I suppose 03:05:13 *** Charles (Charles@Charles.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 03:07:03 04FichteFoll made 4 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Update j.json', '02Update j.jsonlittle fix (missing colon)', '02Update j.json', '02Merge pull request #2387 from sebcl/masterfirst release of my package, js-firebug' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/02c27a4f71...67bbe80a2c) 03:10:06 04FichteFoll made 3 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Added RSync Package', '02Now in right order', '02Merge pull request #2396 from gcarvalho/masterAdded RSync Package' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/67bbe80a2c...ec2242493d) 03:13:00 * Charles is feeling great 03:46:39 04FichteFoll made 3 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Update c.jsonadded C Improved (https://github.com/abusalimov/SublimeCImproved)', '02Update c.jsonmove C Improved up', '02Merge pull request #2397 from abusalimov/masterAdd C Improved package' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/ec2242493d...6a5ac92fa6) 03:48:10 04FichteFoll made 3 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02- Change details to tags page.', '02Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel', '02Merge pull request #2399 from patrickayoup/masterFixing Details' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/6a5ac92fa6...aca2484fe2) 04:15:26 *** Charles has quit (Client exited) 04:17:05 .bitcoin 04:17:06 1 BTC = $711.99, 1 BTC = €540.22 04:26:12 *** tommykaine (tommykaine@cryto-B0945395.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) has joined #crytocc 04:26:23 joepie 04:27:56 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6oXW_YiV6g 04:40:23 .bitcoin 04:40:24 1 BTC = $707.02, 1 BTC = €540.00 04:40:36 +40 04:40:39 joepie91, you know that price is absurdly wrong right 04:41:11 1 bitcoint was 100 like 5 months agho right? 04:41:24 tommykaine, bit longer than that 04:41:29 but its been declared a legal currency by the US 04:41:35 so price has rocketed in he last few days 04:42:11 yeah after govment took down silk 04:42:34 BMR and SMP have just replaced it anyway 04:48:33 *** Charles (Charles@Charles.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 04:50:08 daemon: hmm? 04:53:43 .bitcoin 04:53:44 1 BTC = $705.99, 1 BTC = €535.00 04:53:52 its currently 732 :o 04:53:56 http://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/mtgox/btcusd 04:58:19 daemon: you do realize that you're looking at the mt gox chart? 04:58:36 you're basically saying "THE OUTPUT OF .bitcoin IS WRONG BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE MT GOX RATE" 04:58:38 which makes no sense 04:58:48 *** Charles has quit (Client exited) 04:59:30 I'm not trying to output the mt. gox rate, so of course it's not the same as the mt. gox rate 04:59:36 joepie91, ok 04:59:48 so no, it is not "absurdly wrong" 05:00:13 daemon: http://blockchain.info/ticker 05:00:18 weighted averages 05:00:35 I use the 15m average 05:00:38 *** lblissett has quit (Input/output error) 05:00:40 ah 05:01:00 which is pretty much the most reliable metric you're going to get without explicitly blacklisting certain exchanges 05:01:25 *** lblissett (lblissett@F8FBD3F8.9CCA7DE9.B2EBD6BC.IP) has joined #crytocc 05:04:44 *** Anonymous922 (Anonymous9@cryto-82A9A761.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 05:04:52 *** Anonymous922 has parted #crytocc (Leaving) 05:24:29 shot off an email to winamp 05:24:43 to A. ask whether shoutcast is affected by the winamp closure 05:24:54 and B. suggest releasing winamp source under an open license 05:25:59 let's see if they respond! 05:28:05 joepie91, just use icecast lol 05:28:22 and winamp its self can pretty much never be released under a closed source 05:28:29 it uses to many licensed and proprietary plugins 05:31:22 *** Ari has quit (Connection reset by peer) 05:36:08 daemon: we'll see 05:36:15 also 05:36:15 http://robrhinehart.com/?p=298 05:36:22 interesting read 05:36:26 *** tommykaine has quit (User quit: tommykaine) 05:37:48 this looks interesting 05:41:10 hmm 05:41:11 cool 05:41:53 .title 05:41:54 joepie91: How I Stopped Eating Food : Mostly Harmless 05:41:55 (for the logs) 05:42:06 daemon: he has a bunch of follow up posts also 05:44:30 hmm 05:44:37 no actual ingrediant list though 05:46:28 I might go find out exactly what the body needs and try hack a batch u my self 05:46:33 up* 05:46:58 ah found it 05:47:01 http://robrhinehart.com/?p=424 05:47:31 daemon: afaik the final list for all sold variants isn't published yet, but will be 05:49:11 joepie91, you going to give it a try? 05:49:37 considering DIYing it 05:49:44 but want to do sufficient research first 05:49:50 tel me if you do I would love to key in with you 05:49:52 share research 05:50:55 daemon: I'm going to ask around and try to find a dietist or similar first 05:51:07 joepie91, I have access to those for free 05:51:30 even specialist ones if needed 05:51:33 yes, but I don't :) 05:51:42 well yeah that was kinda the point of sharing the research ;p 05:52:42 daemon: I'd want to have a dietist on stand-by that can do physical examination if necessary, ie. geographically close 05:52:49 this is not something I'd like to do remotely 05:52:56 nutrition isn't a game 05:53:13 ah 05:54:22 I do not see it as that risky in honesty 05:54:27 if you miss something in your diet 05:54:32 your body will tell you, you will not just drop dead 05:54:50 but as you wish I will tell you how it goes over this end ^_^ 05:55:04 daemon: that's how it works with natural food, yes 05:55:08 this isn't natural food 05:55:22 you could be missing something that you'd easily pick up with anything 'real food' you eat 05:55:24 its the component parts of natural food 05:55:28 yes 05:55:48 but who knows how your body may or may not respond to something that you pretty much -can't- lack if you eat actual food every day 05:56:11 I imagine it will just make you crazve a food associated with that protein 05:56:14 like meat for iron 05:56:31 maybe, maybe not 05:56:40 it's not like there's terribly many people that have dropped food altogether 05:56:42 :) 05:56:57 true but it still will be an awesome experiment 05:58:19 joepie91, I think I would use a gradual degradation approach with it 05:58:26 start with the mixture and 75% of what I normally eat 05:58:39 and cut it down by 5% per day 05:58:48 daemon: you'd have to be very careful with that 05:59:01 and be perfectly aware of all the nutrients in every single bit of food that you consume 05:59:04 to avoid over-nutrition 05:59:05 joepie91, im type 1 diabetic my main concern here is the carbs ;) 05:59:19 I can deal with to many of them 05:59:24 but not enough causes big issues 05:59:31 I mean every nutrient... 05:59:44 joepie91, im not so worried about that 05:59:49 people take multivitamins everyday 05:59:55 your body just flushs what it does not need 06:00:03 you would need to subtract the nutritional values of every bit of food that you eat from your daily intake 06:00:04 .. 06:00:04 daemon 06:00:09 that is not how that works 06:00:24 ever wondered why you can get supplements for some nutrients but not for others? 06:00:34 body can only do that with particular nutrients 06:00:48 some nutrients become immediately poisonous if improperly dosed 06:00:52 oh 06:00:53 it's really not all that simple 06:01:04 I suppose the key here is then isolating the ones that become poisonous 06:01:13 and making sure any meals consume contain non of very little of them 06:01:18 yes, but that is what i meant when I said 06:01:18 daemon: you'd have to be very careful with that 06:01:18 and be perfectly aware of all the nutrients in every single bit of food that you consume 06:01:18 to avoid over-nutrition 06:01:26 you'd have to adjust your mixture every day 06:01:30 based on what you have planned to eat that day 06:01:37 not really I would adjust the diet not the mixture 06:01:42 taking into account any nutrients that your body is not able to just flush 06:01:45 so it did not contain the poisonous elements 06:01:50 uh.. 06:02:02 I think you're kinda misunderstanding what i mean... 06:02:18 there are nutrients that are essential and common in foods 06:02:24 but dangerous when overdosed 06:02:30 and/or poisonous 06:02:39 yes 06:02:43 that is why you need to adjust your mixture, not your diet 06:02:44 I understood exactly what you meant 06:12:40 joepie91 Ily 06:12:44 Lets have sexxies 06:31:37 can you guys take it in private 06:31:38 thanks 06:35:26 *** x has quit (Input/output error) 06:37:08 ^ 06:37:09 also 06:37:17 this is a perfect example of why I dislike the Python docs 06:37:18 http://docs.python.org/2/library/signal.html 06:37:30 signal.signal lets you assign handlers for system interrupts 06:37:36 popquiz: what are the allowed values? 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Therequirements file is requirements.txt in the root directory.', '02Updated readme about the new requirements location', '02Added both twilio and marrow.mailer as python packages', '02Merge pull request #1 from Novacha/feature/requirementsMove python requi 08:39:36 04joepie91 made 3 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10feature/vagrant: '02Fixes', '02Log to file instead of stdout', '02Configuration template fix for MUC component' (https://github.com/KnightSwarm/Envoy/compare/84b0b33d11...7d91e2a99b) 08:39:47 04joepie91 made 15 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10develop: '02Vagrant stuff', '02Placeholder .gitignores to not mess up with the feature/client-tide branch', '02Cleanup and most of the bootstrapping script for Vagrant', '02Bootstrap fixes, and finally gotten SleekXMPP new_muc installed correctly', '02Create and populate database in bootstrap script', '02Add Envoy setup to bootstrapping script', '02Fixes and making Envoy stuff 08:40:06 04joepie91 made 20 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10feature/room-management: '02Merge branch 'feature/db-abstraction' into develop', '02Added python requirements to their own fileRequirements can now be installed using pip or easy_install. Therequirements file is requirements.txt in the root directory.', '02Updated readme about the new requirements location', '02Added both twilio and marrow.mailer as python packages', '02Merge pull 08:41:21 * joepie91 looks around innocently 08:51:13 that is 08:51:17 a lot of commits 08:51:33 busy day i take it? 09:01:40 pzuraq: mm, merge 09:01:54 :) 09:02:13 anyway 09:02:20 I now have a development-environment-in-a-box 09:02:21 which is nice 09:06:23 you still a PHP wizard? 09:12:10 *** Cryto213 (Cryto213@cryto-7868CAB7.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #crytocc 09:12:38 Hi Guys how r you ? 09:15:52 *** killolol_ (chatzilla@killolol-48290.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 09:28:21 .welcome Cryto213 09:28:22 Cryto213: welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off]. 09:28:29 pzuraq: I do still use PHP, yes 09:28:35 starting to get increasingly familiar with Python 09:28:50 good stuff :) 09:28:58 I just started picking up Node 09:29:06 JS is my first love 09:29:35 but Python/Django are cool too 09:29:37 * joepie91 still doesn't like the clunkiness of JS 09:29:45 heh 09:29:56 and I don't mean the inheritance model or the `this` context 09:30:00 I mean stuff like indexOf 09:30:15 ah, that is rather annoying yes 09:30:25 I mean 09:30:25 I typically abstract it out of my sight >.> 09:30:44 if("blah".indexOf("a") !== -1) { /* found */ } 09:30:48 wtf 09:30:55 why not just if("a" in "blah") 09:31:10 (and yes, this annoys me in PHP as well) 09:31:38 I believe ES6 might support tha 09:31:39 t 09:31:40 not sure though 09:31:50 Try Ember if you ever get a chance 09:31:55 <3 Ember 09:32:41 Note it's a frontend MVC 09:33:06 anyways, need slee. 09:33:07 p 09:33:14 midterm tomorrow 09:33:15 night 09:33:23 *** pzuraq has quit (Input/output error) 09:40:53 *** multihate has quit (User quit: Page closed) 09:49:45 *** Charles (Charles@Charles.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 10:00:19 *** killolol_ has parted #crytocc () 10:01:34 hi 10:01:58 *** Pandora has quit (Ping timeout) 10:02:36 ello 10:06:32 *** Pandora (Pandora__@cryto-97741A65.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 10:15:02 *** multihate (multihate@20745377.ADF2CBB9.1AC919DC.IP) has joined #crytocc 10:18:13 *** Charles has quit (Client exited) 10:18:36 *** Charles (Charles@Charles.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 10:27:59 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10feature/vagrant: '02Fix for broken-ness on Windows' (https://github.com/KnightSwarm/Envoy/compare/7d91e2a99b...fddb97c405) 10:28:02 04joepie91 made 2 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10feature/client-tide: '02Fix for broken-ness on Windows', '02Update merge' (https://github.com/KnightSwarm/Envoy/compare/dfc5077a79...d73ca5d2de) 10:28:05 04joepie91 made 2 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10develop: '02Fix for broken-ness on Windows', '02Update merge' (https://github.com/KnightSwarm/Envoy/compare/77a8688dc3...8637509106) 10:28:08 04joepie91 made 2 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10feature/room-management: '02Fix for broken-ness on Windows', '02Update merge' (https://github.com/KnightSwarm/Envoy/compare/4a203f4279...634bb55ed8) 10:28:53 .title http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/11/21/automattic-files-two-lawsuits-strikes-back-censorship-fraudulent-dmca-takedown-notices/?fromcat=all 10:28:54 joepie91: Automattic Files Lawsuits Over Bogus Copyright Claims 10:29:11 looks like people behind wordpress.com are now sueing over false DMCA claims 10:29:13 about time! 10:29:14 botpie91, ... 10:29:28 yay wordpress 10:29:33 i like wordpress :D 10:29:43 I'm pretty mixed-feelings about wordpress 10:30:41 i used wordpress some time ago but deleted it when i found some weird search terms leading to my blog :/ 10:31:11 * Charles is sad about deleting blog 10:36:46 deleting is bad 10:42:08 but it could jeopardize my life D: 10:42:08 lol 10:45:13 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@cryto-610769D0.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #crytocc 10:52:53 *** foolex has quit (Client exited) 10:56:44 *** Charles has quit (Client exited) 10:56:57 *** Charles (Charles@Charles.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 10:57:44 *** foolex (foolex@5D6B0912.EC145393.9A74EEF1.IP) has joined #crytocc 11:21:20 *** monod (~pmpf@cryto-D9B6BF8F.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #crytocc 11:22:30 hood morning. 11:22:51 ohai! 11:23:02 * Charles doesn know what to say 11:23:06 diff timezone :D 11:23:12 oh realy? 11:23:13 really* 11:23:20 here's midday 11:23:25 ftw. 11:23:27 :D 11:23:38 haha :D 11:36:00 *** mama (me@cryto-AC549E18.guilhem.org) has joined #crytocc 11:42:26 Svajcer* ! 11:56:46 *** Charles has quit (Client exited) 11:59:35 ohai 11:59:50 welcome aboard 11:59:58 on the lulz boat 12:00:01 ahahaha 12:00:03 yarr' a pirate 12:00:04 ehm ehm ehm 12:00:08 lulzz 12:00:16 aye aye! 12:00:53 also, heh 12:00:59 had some time yesterday 12:01:01 https://gist.github.com/iceTwy/7591026 12:01:02 .title 12:01:03 iceTwy: A simple Python script for the AUR. Based on the AUR API. 12:01:12 AUR? 12:01:14 .ohai 12:01:17 (lulz9 12:01:18 ) 12:01:24 yeah, Arch User Repository 12:01:28 oh 12:01:35 do you know/use arch linux? 12:01:37 basically a place where Arch users can upload and maintain packages that are not in the official repo 12:01:42 yeah, been using Arch for nearly 2 years 12:01:46 gooosh 12:01:53 love it 12:01:54 so you can say if it's cool or not 12:01:57 fuck yeah 12:02:00 it rocks my mama 12:02:01 how about debian? 12:02:06 in comparison 12:02:18 debian's sort of generic and tasteless 12:02:21 arch is hmmmmmmmmmm 12:02:29 :) 12:02:45 lots of support, customization, do-whatever-you-want philosophy 12:03:13 and is there a arch-like linux distro accepted by GNU philosophy? 12:03:18 yeah 12:03:24 this is wonderful! 12:03:33 this is wonderful news*! 12:03:37 Parabola GNU/Linux, a distribution based on Arch that prioritizes simple package and system management. 12:03:59 while you can also install commandline uber programs, right? 12:04:20 (I don't really know what simple package and system management means, btw) 12:04:45 managing your packages with Arch is so easy 12:04:47 pacman 12:04:49 fapfap 12:04:54 eh but 12:05:05 I mean, I need a comparison 12:05:09 like, aptitude vs pacman 12:05:15 (correct?) 12:05:33 but I really, really, really 12:05:40 would like to learn linux 12:05:46 because that's the basic thing... 12:05:53 example: 12:06:07 I like emoticons on the terminal of Arch linux (iirc) 12:06:30 but, maybe, and I didn't know how to search, there may be a script that puts them in other linux terminals too 12:06:37 e.g., in Debian's 12:06:53 oh so you're not using Linux? 12:06:56 I don't really know if Linux is all about "You need something? Google it." 12:06:56 never used it? 12:07:01 hey :D 12:07:03 hell yes it is 12:07:04 I use it! 12:07:16 Arch is all about googling lol 12:07:25 then the first result will often be "Arch Wiki 12:07:27 I have it on my computer for almost 5 years now 12:07:27 " 12:07:29 :p 12:07:31 windows is only for gamingù 12:07:33 ah, good ;P 12:07:33 gaming* 12:07:51 yet if so things are 12:08:47 for me it is like not knowing linux 12:09:05 I mean, I can't walk by myself in anything if I always need internet 12:09:07 and I mean: 12:09:14 of course certain things are internet-only 12:09:24 porn 12:09:29 but computer-management itself is not, at least I can do it without internet on windows 12:09:52 IR601, not if you're in a relationship :P 12:09:58 gotta go afk!!! :(( 12:10:03 back in boh minutes 12:10:06 im in one of those 12:10:09 sux 12:10:10 ohai iceTwy 12:10:27 22:34:20 so it looks like bitcoin will be taxed from what i see 12:10:27 22:35:44 complex: who cares, LTC won't be 12:10:27 22:36:19 yeah, thats what i was thinkig 12:10:27 1. of course Bitcoin will be taxed, just like everything else is taxed regardless of whether it's government-mandated currency or not 12:10:27 2. how would that be any different for LTC? 12:10:27 and I just noticed that neither of the two conversation participants are actually here right now so I guess I'll have to repeat that later 12:10:46 *** Charles (Charles@Charles.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 12:13:38 joepie91: don't have time to discuss atm but 12:13:44 litecoin is a different currency than BTC 12:14:17 ltc ftw 12:14:24 so, LTC will only be taxed after Bitcoin, if it ever is 12:16:03 when they will become a "hot topic"? 12:16:24 The only difference between Litcoin and Bitcoin is that the mining algorithm is different and blockchains are generated every 2.5 minutes rather than 10, so sure, "LTC is a different currency" 12:16:27 Litecoin* 12:16:28 until someone will call them "online currency" and tax it altogether maybe :uhm: 12:16:56 Litecoin provides no actual innovation or new features over Bitcoin, so I don't think it will ever be a hot topic 12:16:57 lysobit, he referred to the concept, not to the mechanics, I think :D 12:17:14 "hot topic" as "main online currency" 12:17:28 faster regeneration lysobit 12:17:35 04joepie91 made 2 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10develop: '02Make sure pip output is handled correctly', '02Merge branch 'feature/vagrant' into develop' (https://github.com/KnightSwarm/Envoy/compare/8637509106...cdf20b2c55) 12:17:35 oh yeah 12:17:39 04joepie91 made 2 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10feature/client-tide: '02Make sure pip output is handled correctly', '02Merge branch 'feature/vagrant' into feature/client-tide' (https://github.com/KnightSwarm/Envoy/compare/d73ca5d2de...b9977b84dd) 12:17:40 sry just read 12:17:42 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10feature/vagrant: '02Make sure pip output is handled correctly' (https://github.com/KnightSwarm/Envoy/compare/fddb97c405...80c5756648) 12:17:46 04joepie91 made 2 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10feature/room-management: '02Make sure pip output is handled correctly', '02Merge branch 'feature/vagrant' into feature/room-management' (https://github.com/KnightSwarm/Envoy/compare/634bb55ed8...56002850b2) 12:18:03 iceTwy: what? 12:18:04 Charles, which only benefits the early adaptors. It seems to me that the only reason why someone would prefer Litecoin to Bitcoin is if they are an earlier adaptor. 12:18:07 what is the purpose of this botpie feature? 12:18:20 iceTwy: you do understand that "Bitcoins" will not be taxed, but "cryptocurrency" or "virtual currency" will be? 12:18:26 know when someone works on github? 12:18:39 not sure what makes you think that Litecoin would somehow not fall under new taxation regulations 12:18:58 faster regeneration lysobit 12:19:00 I welcome tax regulations on Bitcoins, actually 12:19:03 this isn't actually a feature 12:19:20 other than "whoo more granularity in confirmations" but the practical use of that is basically 0 12:19:52 In a typical retail IRL usecase, confirmation time is irrelevant 12:20:09 soz 12:20:25 just came back and my brain is over worked from happiness :D 12:20:29 yayay 12:20:35 "The Litecoin blockchain differs from Bitcoin in that it generates blocks every 2.5 minutes on average (four times Bitcoin's rate). This means that merchants who accept transactions only 1 block deep get that confirmation quicker. However, it should be noted that more blocks are required to achieve the same amount of confirmation strength as Bitcoin (6 blocks of litecoin are not equivalent to 6 blocks of bitcoin). 12:20:36 Unfortunately, this increases the number of hashes that are wasted in mining since miners will be working from the non-best block more of the time." 12:20:44 Since not many people are going to do a double spend attack to get a free packet of crisps, it would probably be more time consuming to do the double spend attack 12:21:01 tl;dr that faster confirmation time isn't ACTUALLY faster confirmation time, just higher granularity 12:21:12 then would be the benefit of a free packet of crisps 12:21:13 anyways, joepie91, it seems to me that regulations come to things that do not already have been regulated and that may cause "excess of freedom of use", don't you think so? 12:21:24 monod: I'm not sure what you mean 12:21:28 ok xD 12:21:33 I will re-elaborate 12:21:35 also, yes, the purpose of the botpie github feature is to announce what people are working on 12:21:36 :) 12:21:42 ohhh ok 12:21:43 thanks 12:21:47 Which people? :P 12:21:48