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ZZZzzz…) 03:51:10 http://gyazo.com/a4b546312ae389fc4463e6056513e2af.png 04:00:39 *** skill3r (skill3r@developers.developers.developers) has joined #crytocc 04:29:34 *** pzuraq has quit (Ping timeout) 04:39:47 Philosoraptor: heh, what'd that be then 04:41:49 heh 04:42:00 apparently icetwy hasn't listened to @ioerror 04:42:05 he's been calling the nsa stasi for years 04:42:29 I thought he was kind of a nutcase for a bit, and then we studied the determinants of fascism in school 04:42:35 and I went "oh, he's right. My bad." 04:43:57 ss from person of interest s03e11 04:44:17 interesting that it references actual classified programs 04:45:35 give continuum a watch too 04:48:53 really? They got new ep out ? 04:49:04 nop 04:49:19 Continuum S02E12 480p HDTV x264-mSD 2013-08-07 04:49:38 * Philosoraptor is caught up 04:49:51 I wouldn't know lol 04:49:56 I watched 3 episodes and stopped 04:50:00 which is pretty average for me 04:51:01 * Philosoraptor either watches the hell out of a show, or hates it 05:00:27 * joepie91 <3 Continuum 05:10:59 *** Moh has quit (Ping timeout) 05:11:12 *** Moh (Happax@C9DAE998.DEF35560.459DB6C6.IP) has joined #crytocc 05:14:25 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-F46BE6EA.sub-70-197-4.myvzw.com) has joined #crytocc 05:18:40 I don't watch the hell out of anything, so watching 3 episodes is nearly an endorsement 05:18:58 3 episodes is vastly longer than the 12 seconds I usually make it 06:05:03 *** tmbucky (tmbucky@cryto-4EA4A8A0.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 06:06:24 *** tmbucky has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 06:50:20 *** MK_FG (MK_FG@MKFG-91968.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 07:27:58 *** niveus has quit (Ping timeout) 07:30:05 *** niveus (niveus@niveus.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 08:34:24 *** pzuraq has quit (Ping timeout) 08:36:24 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-F46BE6EA.sub-70-197-4.myvzw.com) has joined #crytocc 08:48:11 *** skill3r has quit (Ping timeout) 09:05:01 *** multihate (root@multihate.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 10:02:32 *** pzuraq has quit (Ping timeout) 10:08:08 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-F46BE6EA.sub-70-197-4.myvzw.com) has joined #crytocc 14:05:03 *** ttmbRAT (ttmbRAT@cryto-A256680E.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 14:06:25 *** ttmbRAT has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 14:31:23 *** Charles (Charles@Charles.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 14:31:39 .bitcoin 14:31:40 1 BTC = $563.00, 1 BTC = €438.00 14:31:46 crash 14:41:58 *** Charles has quit (Client exited) 14:55:09 *** jonboi (jonboi__@cryto-61E72864.ighost.se) has joined #crytocc 15:14:38 *** Moh has parted #crytocc (None) 16:05:05 http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/mittiron.gif 16:18:04 crash indeed 16:18:22 Philosoraptor: that seems like a terrible idea 16:22:42 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03cryto-status on branch 10develop: '02Switch to pubsub for over-the-wire communication, to prevent memory leaks' (https://github.com/joepie91/cryto-status/compare/0c87ee058c...a796725057) 16:24:15 oh man 16:24:23 about to roll out backwards incompatible change 16:24:31 inb4 tsunami of down notifications 16:26:50 su -c "cd /home/monitor/cryto-status/cstatsd; ./kill-stats && git pull && ./cstatsd&" monitor 16:26:55 oh, the awesomeness of running software from git 16:26:56 :0 16:26:58 :) * 16:28:12 lol 16:33:42 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@cryto-610769D0.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #crytocc 16:33:59 http://owely.com/31d2IFr 16:34:00 lol 16:34:44 k so 16:34:48 now to update ccollectd 16:35:29 :o 16:35:35 whoop 16:35:42 should now in theory have latest version running 16:35:44 everywhere 16:35:49 and no more memleak! 16:36:00 * joepie91 kills random service on random box to test 16:36:14 [ DOWN ] Service port on host blade.cryto.net reports that Tahoe-LAFS (3456) is down! 16:36:16 awesome 16:37:10 dorotea, staticsafe, had a stupid memleak 16:37:18 was using pull/push instead of pub/sub 16:37:32 result: disconnect = massive resource usage stats pileup in RAM 16:37:46 I think its time to set up your monitoring code 16:37:47 until it eventually spirals out of control and cstatsd is killed 16:37:50 * staticsafe starts a VM 16:38:00 then the processing script has nowhere to dump its shit 16:38:06 thus it also starts queueing 16:38:08 and ballooning 16:38:11 eventually also OOMing 16:38:11 oops 16:38:13 haha 16:38:14 and boom 16:38:17 everything ded 16:38:18 lol 16:38:20 yay, cascading failures 16:38:24 that was kind of an architecture design oversight :3 16:38:30 but yeah, that should be fixed now lol 16:38:34 fuck 16:38:35 pub/sub discards messages when no listeners 16:38:36 this shit 16:38:36 who monitors the monitors?! 16:38:42 staticsafe; working on that 16:38:44 watchdog stuf 16:38:45 seriously 16:38:46 stuff * 16:38:49 still thinking about the exact design 16:38:52 iceTwy: hmm 16:38:53 ? 16:38:54 50 hard questions in a 3h30 final 16:39:00 more than 50 actually 16:39:05 iceTwy: what course? 16:39:07 including a special exercise for AP students 16:39:10 physics & chemistry 16:39:13 are you fucking kidding me 16:39:13 ouch 16:39:16 have fun with that 16:39:20 no 16:39:22 I just got out of it 16:39:35 and I'm pissed because physics/chemistry is the most important subject for me 16:39:37 grade-wise 16:40:01 plus I'm in the equivalent of the AP course 16:40:13 so the last exercise for AP course students is always harder 16:40:16 and different 16:40:23 . 16:40:25 ...* 16:40:54 joepie91: i was about to start setting up Nagios again the other day but forgot how annoying the configuration is >_< 16:42:26 heh 16:42:39 staticsafe: all existing things seem either ancient, clunky, unpleasant or incomplete to me 16:42:46 or resource-heavy 16:42:51 so I figured this would be a nice thing to write myself 16:43:02 (that is, assuming I don't leave stupid memleaks) 16:43:06 (... >.>) 16:43:43 http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/archive/segment/robot-handjobs-are-the-future-and-the-future-is-coming/5283e961fe34444eb70002bd?cn=tbla] 16:43:46 http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/archive/segment/robot-handjobs-are-the-future-and-the-future-is-coming/5283e961fe34444eb70002bd?cn=tbla 16:45:02 anyway, staticsafe, if you have any questions, feel free to ask 16:45:07 also, you will need libzmq-dev 16:45:21 on slaves and masters 16:45:31 * staticsafe nods 16:45:40 im setting up some local VMs for it 16:46:38 staticsafe: hmm, did I include an example nodefile for ccollectd? 16:46:59 config.yaml.example? 16:47:10 yes it is in the develop branch 16:47:41 okay :) 16:48:25 Congratulations on joining the botnet of which we call reality. 16:51:43 [ WARNING ] Service heartbeat on host monitoring.cryto.net reports that a blip occurred for grapefruit.cryto.net! 16:51:43 [ WARNING ] Service heartbeat on host monitoring.cryto.net reports that a blip occurred for grapefruit.cryto.net! 16:51:43 [ DOWN ] Service heartbeat on host monitoring.cryto.net reports that grapefruit.cryto.net is down! 16:51:43 [ UP ] Service heartbeat on host monitoring.cryto.net reports that grapefruit.cryto.net is now back up. It was down for 17 seconds. 16:51:43 [ WARNING ] Service heartbeat on host monitoring.cryto.net reports that a blip occurred for grapefruit.cryto.net! 16:51:45 * joepie91 sighs 16:52:14 don't think I've seen a day where my urpad wasn't blipping 16:52:50 staticsafe: suggest artist 16:54:43 joepie91: artist? 16:55:16 staticsafe: suggest an artist for musics :P 16:55:20 electronic musics 16:55:36 joepie91: Squarepusher 16:56:52 staticsafe: hmm. 16:56:55 too monotonous 16:57:02 I like what is apparently called "complextro" 16:57:08 think pegboard nerds, savant, etc. 16:57:14 hm 16:57:35 joepie91: foxiepaws can help further 16:57:44 I would expect so, yes :) 16:58:11 will ask him later 16:58:35 foxiepaws is usually pretty verbose - which is helpful, but right now it's late and my brain is only taking in limited amounts of information 16:58:39 :P 16:58:45 :) 16:58:49 so probably better to ask tomorrow when I'm more awake 16:58:57 and I can actually absorb and respond to what's being said to me... 16:59:46 okay 16:59:50 * joepie91 makes todo list for cryto-status 17:00:01 ... wait I already have one 17:01:30 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03cryto-status on branch 10develop: '02Update todo' (https://github.com/joepie91/cryto-status/compare/a796725057...d6b0fc2ad4) 17:03:50 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 17:09:55 iceTwy:) :D 17:10:06 iceTwy:) don't rage, I'm writing 8 papers this week 17:10:26 which reminds me to get started 17:10:32 hehe 17:10:53 lol 17:10:56 well still 17:11:01 this was a final 17:11:27 but our teacher always puts up endless exercises 17:12:47 yay 17:12:55 yelling at online places for doing pagination 17:13:20 I didn't even know they did pagination, I've been reading the site for months now and never noticed the page numbers 17:13:30 * dorotea assails via mail 17:13:31 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02List Stylesheet Vars is compatible with ST3', '02Merge pull request #2497 from MaciekBaron/masterList Stylesheet Vars is compatible with ST3' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/f6ca1dde9e...b6e9583c0d) 17:15:06 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03cryto-status on branch 10develop: '02Spec out components' (https://github.com/joepie91/cryto-status/compare/d6b0fc2ad4...59ac723188) 17:15:09 staticsafe: ^ 17:15:55 ah, githubs awesome tab handling in action there 17:16:00 * joepie91 sighs 17:16:07 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03cryto-status on branch 10develop: '02Update todo' (https://github.com/joepie91/cryto-status/compare/59ac723188...7efb3b3dd2) 17:18:14 wat 17:18:27 joepie91:) what is your shit with let? 17:18:58 dorotea: hmm? 17:19:24 I got posts in my mail because you moved them from let 17:19:38 * dorotea gets mail when you blog 17:19:55 ahh 17:20:00 oh, you're one of the two subscribers 17:20:01 ol 17:20:02 loo * 17:20:03 lol * 17:20:06 yus 17:20:08 :> 17:20:09 anyway, owners of LET are colocrossing 17:20:18 wat 17:20:20 and they are sly fuckers with scummy business practices 17:20:24 like, actual colocrossing? 17:20:25 yes 17:20:28 :O 17:20:36 yeah fuck them 17:20:38 lol 17:20:40 who have turned LET from a community into a billboard for their fucking datacenter 17:20:53 and it's not even a good datacenter 17:20:53 and are doing shady shit and lying at every turn 17:20:53 lol 17:20:55 well not lying really 17:21:02 just "not mentioning things strategically" 17:21:13 "lying by omission" is the phrase 17:21:15 ie. the form of lying that isn't called lying 17:21:16 yes 17:21:22 one of the ways to phrase it 17:21:28 anyway 17:21:31 that's their primary game 17:21:34 :/ 17:21:39 now it seems they've also been involved in a fun identity fraud case 17:21:50 wow! much excite! 17:22:03 I'm honestly not sure how colocrossing doesn'tt have a file with every government agency in the US yet 17:22:04 but okay 17:22:14 also I met a guy who owns 10m dogecoin 17:22:26 I have 80m joepiecoin 17:22:31 :P 17:22:43 OH MAN 17:22:48 MOTHERBOARD BLOGGED ABOUT DOGECOIN 17:22:50 HAHAHAHAHAHA 17:23:00 (motherboard is a vice subsite) 17:23:10 dorotea: http://lowendtalk.com/discussion/17282/ugvps-offline-my-server-offline-more-than-5-days/p1 17:23:18 around 2/3rd the page it gets interesting 17:23:24 http://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/407823/#Comment_407823 17:23:36 *** Rhymnosorous (Rhymnosoro@cryto-BFD44C6F.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #crytocc 17:24:06 tleo == guy that worked for colocrossing and chicagovps (who are supposedly "independent companies" - sure...) 17:24:30 and it gets more interesting when it turns out that UGVPS' paypal account is in name of Chris Fabozzi 17:24:34 the owner of ChicagoVPS 17:24:38 and not Crystal Dale 17:24:42 who was presented as the owner of UGVPS 17:24:51 trippy 17:24:55 and whose identity appears to have been stolen by Thomas leonard 17:24:59 who just HAPPENS to be a friend of Chris Fabozzi 17:25:02 * joepie91 sighs 17:25:17 of course this is all a coincidence/lie/whatever the fuck the excuse of the day is 17:25:33 and nobody is guilty of anything 17:25:49 so yeah, dorotea, that's a primer on why you should avoid colocrossing like the plague 17:26:44 that's some shit 17:27:07 dorotea; that's actually only the tip of the iceberg 17:27:29 because apparently jon biloh - who owns colocrossing - has a father who is ALSO named jon biloh 17:27:42 er 17:27:43 and supposedly there's quite some shit in his name 17:27:53 is the father dead? 17:27:56 lol 17:27:57 of course everybody else is none the wiser because everything says "jon biloh" 17:27:58 no 17:28:19 agh 17:28:26 anyway, this isn't even touching on the amount of companies that appear to be shell companies of colocrossing 17:28:29 why is an infrastructure provider being run by a crime family 17:28:29 but are denied to be such 17:28:29 lol 17:28:35 yeah, nfi 17:28:42 most of LET is at colocrossing now 17:28:44 not even kidding 17:28:46 I mean, do this shit with drugs or something 17:28:52 but not interbutts 17:28:57 I think like half of the LET-advertising providers now host at colocrossing 17:29:05 that smells foul 17:29:09 oh, and there are (entirely unproven) claims of DDoS extortion from colocrossing also 17:29:20 yeah 17:29:21 DDoSing hosts, then offering "protection against attacks" on their own network 17:29:24 if the glove fits 17:29:25 but those are unproven as of yet 17:29:29 though it seems in line with the rest 17:29:37 and explains quite a few events 17:29:38 also 17:29:41 that smells foul 17:29:57 it's colocrossing basically co-opting the largest low end VPS community 17:30:07 to work as a covert advertisment for them 17:30:23 hell, jon calls it an "asset", a "property", and a "business decision" 17:30:25 that should tell you enough 17:30:33 anyway 17:30:34 oh, that's right 17:30:37 when was that purchase 17:30:48 cause it got bought or transferred or whatever 17:30:49 there is DEFINITELY conflict of interest there, not to mention possibly antitrust violations 17:30:50 err 17:30:50 I remember that shit 17:30:53 that depends on when you ask 17:30:56 not who you ask, when you ask 17:31:00 wat 17:31:03 since CC seems to change their story every week 17:31:19 but most reliable information points at 'about a year ago' 17:31:19 so, conservative assumption: from the start 17:31:33 of course they only admitted it in the past few months 17:31:41 while keeping up the facade of a different owner before that 17:31:48 hmm 17:32:01 It's silly because they're literally burning their name when they could win by being amazing 17:32:14 or #WINNING as chris fabozzi would spam at you 17:32:15 :p 17:32:20 lol 17:32:22 dorotea: you know what the most interesting bit is? 17:32:29 their network used to be awesome 17:32:37 like, genuinely impressive 17:32:39 yeah 17:32:46 I remember when they were good 17:32:51 and then they figured "lol easy money from these suckers", apparently 17:32:53 cc was on everybody's short list 17:32:58 all ethics went out of the window 17:33:01 and this crap happened 17:33:12 greeeeeeed 17:33:14 as far as I can tell, that is how things progressed 17:33:15 yup 17:33:16 :| 17:33:23 and sad pandas 17:33:55 (slightly related, oh sweet google SEO in IRC logs) 17:34:04 dorp 17:34:06 :> 17:34:15 buuuut yeah 17:34:20 you didn't write html links, should be fine 17:34:21 lol 17:34:43 man 17:34:49 http://www.torontosun.com/2013/10/25/que-boy-12-pleads-guilty-to-hacking-government-websites 17:34:54 it takes 2 months to get deployed by HH, and we still look better than cc 17:34:58 scam company server rip-off expensive scam 17:35:03 <3 17:35:06 :D 17:35:10 also 17:35:11 we're uh 17:35:16 soon to be on our second blade 17:35:36 each blade has 2 quad cores and 48g ram times 4 blades in each box 17:35:37 Rhymnosorous: very questionable story 17:35:38 and old 17:35:43 dorotea: :o 17:35:50 have a real connection yet? :3 17:35:54 yep 17:35:58 well 17:36:02 if you consider HE to be real 17:36:03 lol 17:36:04 some don;t 17:36:06 ya just sharing what im finding lul 17:36:06 :P 17:36:14 but ye 17:36:25 we're racked in hurricane electric, the new one with stable interbutts 17:36:44 heh 17:36:46 pure HE? 17:36:50 pretty much 17:36:56 I'm the only one running offsite shit 17:36:57 lol 17:36:57 Rhymnosorous: do remember the channel topic :) 17:36:59 dorotea: mmm 17:37:05 because lol failover 17:37:22 but yeah, once we fill this cab it'll be time for location 2 17:37:26 which will probably be eu 17:37:29 pure HE is... playing russian roulette with your connectivity :) 17:37:36 *** Rhymnosorous has parted #crytocc () 17:37:38 works beautifully so far 17:37:47 yes, so does russian roulette before the bullet 17:37:47 :D 17:37:56 :D 17:38:13 It's pretty sweet tho 17:38:27 gotta get some customers for the second box heh 17:38:43 but most of our shit is running bare metal right now, cause fuck vps management 17:38:51 oh 17:38:53 dorotea 17:38:54 "you get a blade" 17:38:55 did you see VestaCP 17:38:58 nahp 17:39:10 http://vestacp.com/ 17:39:12 any good? 17:39:21 a contender reveals himself! 17:39:36 they have xkcd comics on the homepage 17:39:37 I approve 17:39:41 haha 17:39:46 but does zxcvbnm approve 17:39:47 lol 17:39:50 seems built in a hacker spirit 17:39:54 that's usually a good sig 17:39:55 sign * 17:39:59 or any of the other wonderful asshats we have in here 17:40:00 lol 17:40:03 paging zxcvbnm and pzuraq 17:40:13 also vld and lysobit while we're at it 17:40:16 I'll take "yeah, it's not bad" 17:40:24 dorotea: compare it to cPanel 17:40:24 that's my bar 17:40:26 suddenly, it's magic 17:40:28 :P 17:40:34 I don't want to, I use cpanel 17:40:48 it makes me remember how unhappy I am with that state of affairs 17:41:15 hehe 17:41:25 OH GOD 17:41:25 WHY 17:41:27 also, dorotea: PM 17:41:33 OH GOD 17:41:34 WHY 17:41:40 oh jesus fuck 17:41:42 XMPP 17:41:43 WHY DO THEY HAVE YOU RUNNING SCRIPTS FROM THE INTERNET 17:41:44 WHY 17:41:45 WHY 17:41:45 WHY 17:41:56 * dorotea shoots face 17:42:01 dorotea: XMPP please 17:42:09 also, not any worse than running a tar.gz from the internet 17:42:10 er 17:42:12 contents in a tar.gz 17:42:15 :| 17:42:20 but it isn't even ssl 17:42:23 like 17:42:29 NO INTEGRITY 17:42:39 ha 17:42:43 gmail died, excellent 17:42:59 I changed my password for the first time in 5 years, so now none of my chats work 17:47:19 lol 17:52:01 .title http://poppopret.org/2013/12/18/reverse-engineering-a-furby/ 17:52:02 joepie91: Reverse Engineering a Furby | Michael Coppola's Blog 18:05:35 time to sleep 18:05:36 night all 18:11:52 *** iceTwy has quit (Ping timeout) 18:12:03 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@cryto-610769D0.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #crytocc 18:13:05 *** joepie91 has quit (Ping timeout) 18:17:20 maaaaaaaybe I should learn Ruby 18:18:04 iceTwy:) everyone will give you shit for that, but it was my very first language 18:18:11 it's a joy to program in 18:18:25 it doesn't scale and it's very idiosyncratic, but jeez is it gorgeous 18:18:50 well written ruby look like a famous art piece, man 18:26:52 yup 18:27:01 languages like Python and Ruby are nice 18:35:42 hahaha 18:35:51 I don't speak german, but I can if you like! Ow! 18:35:52 NP: [Lady GaGa - Scheiße] [Born This Way] [1037kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6 18:36:05 * dorotea giggles 18:37:41 erm 18:37:48 r/bitcoin has the suicide prevention hotline pinned to the top as BTC drops $500 in value http://i.imgur.com/h9TXUbY.png 18:39:18 good 18:39:29 that's actually the correct response 18:39:52 well that makes me smirk 18:39:55 when your net worth halves in 24 hours... 18:39:57 but indeed it is 18:40:26 man 18:40:31 dogecoin is my favorite thing ever 18:40:44 fucking memes + money = #winning 18:40:52 ahem 18:40:59 you fuck doges then 18:41:01 wow 18:41:06 much disrespect 18:41:10 shibe not happy 18:41:12 very sad 18:41:15 so shibe. much hotness. many fucks. wow 18:41:18 lol 18:42:24 * dorotea jizzes all over twitter 18:42:39 this is cool 18:42:58 twitter's going to turn into a realtime semiotics bridge and facebook is going to become the world's biggest news service 18:43:09 within a year 18:43:21 so excite 18:43:23 well fuck me then 18:43:44 nobody's talking about it, though 18:43:55 too much short term view lol 18:44:13 anyway 18:44:24 facebook just hired an automated intelligence professor 18:44:32 to run their AI division 18:44:45 o.o 18:44:51 and they've been slowly creeping out news pages 18:44:58 I've been waiting literally years for this 18:45:11 facebook in like 2009 or 2010 said they wanted to be a news distributor 18:45:16 maybe 2008? 18:45:20 shit was it that long ago 18:45:20 fuck 18:45:21 anyway 18:45:29 it's finally coming to fruition 18:46:17 they're gonna dick with the recommendation engines and shit, but that same tech is what distributes news to users 18:46:23 that's a thing already 18:46:32 and if it becomes good? they'll be the news homepage of 1.1b users 18:46:38 and they've got like 500m dau 18:47:20 twitter is partnering with media companies for realtime semiotics as well as featurephone providers in global south nations 18:47:43 so in the next two years, twitter will be on half the phones sold in the global south 18:47:50 perhaps more 18:48:25 they've only got 53m users in the US, their biggest market, and 17x million elsewhere 18:48:50 biggest market like "they get the most money from here" 18:49:08 but also, non-us markets increased from 17% to 25% revenues in the last year as well 18:49:20 share of total, which has increased sharply as well 18:49:28 it's like... they're going to do this 18:49:39 sounds like they're also opening the APIs back up a hair 18:51:07 orly 18:51:23 yeah 18:51:38 it's necessary for this rollout into the global south 18:51:56 they have to give up some control over how twitter is presented to be present on feature phones 18:52:08 that's why they locked down the APIs in the first place 18:52:16 control over how the streams are presented 18:52:56 anyway 18:53:00 I'm betting on twitter, long run 18:53:12 facebook too, though not for the "social networking" aspects of facebook 18:53:41 it doesn't actually matter what facebook does, they have 1.1b users 18:54:36 the thing they need to do, and this AI prof will help them do it, is figure out how to learn from all the data they've got, and then apply it directly back into users lives by increasing convenience 18:54:41 that will "sell" really well 18:55:43 google is ahead of them on that front, though 18:55:53 because that's what google has turned into 18:56:00 machine learning to make things more convenient 18:58:55 *** DrWhat (godirc3423@DrWhat.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 18:59:00 Im on Win8 now :/ 18:59:39 are you using it on a touch screen device? 18:59:50 http://rt.com/news/greenwald-eu-parliament-testimony-424/ 18:59:58 If you're not, you're going to have a bad time 19:00:24 hahaha fucking ggreenwald 19:00:32 14,1[12,1**0,1:: I am Now back from ::12,1«14,1]14,1[12,1**0,1::Reason: ::12,1«14,1]14,1[12,1**0,1:: Gone for ::12,1«14,1]14,1[12,1**0,1:: 0secs ::12,1«14,1] 14,1(14,1¯15,1¯15º 5«¤God-IRC 5,4:4,5:5,4:0,4 www.godirc.tk 5,4:4,5:5,4: 5§c®îþt¤» 15º0,1¯15,1¯14,1¯)10? 19:00:58 woops, well that happened 19:01:03 G-G-G-GODLIKE 19:01:36 * DrWhat 14U15sin14g 14G15od-IR14C 14e15vo.147 14S15crip14t 14C15ode14d 14B1514y 14I15l-Kane14. 14G1514o 14G15e14t 14I1514t 14F15ro14m 14w15ww.godirc.t14k 19:01:40 FUCKKKS 19:01:55 Oòókey well this is gon 19:01:58 does it work if i do it too 19:02:00 G-G-G-GODLIKE 19:02:03 awww 19:02:30 :< 19:02:31 the god irc. is that like the god account from the movie Hackers ? 19:02:37 * dorotea hands zxcvbnm a cookie 19:02:42 tyvm! 19:04:56 I need a visual aid to help me understand cookies and session management 19:05:13 I understand it mostly but I Need to drive it home 19:05:18 *** DrWhat has quit (Excess Flood) 19:05:35 *** DrWhat (godirc3423@cryto-A451F60C.cable.virginm.net) has joined #crytocc 19:05:49 I also haven't really been able to find a best-practices for cookies/session management 19:05:56 there seem to be a million ways to handle it. 19:06:22 is it best to store session tokens/cookies in db w/ user? 19:06:24 Auto Join On Connect Now Complete .... 19:12:57 I kept everything in ram because I had only one frontend box, if you have more you should probably be sharing the token around 19:13:25 which probably means either DB or keeping the tokens in a redis or some similar in-memory shared database 19:22:45 *** Zekka (zekka@cryto-5728B4D.arizona.edu) has joined #crytocc 19:33:25 *** ElectRo` (x@cryto-7A86A15F.clients.your-server.de) has joined #crytocc 20:16:02 *** DrWhat has quit (User quit: 14,1(14,1¯15,1¯15º 5«¤God-IRC 1,14:1,15:1,14:4,0IRC Rèvølutìøn Stârts Héré1,14:1,15:1,14:   5§c®îþt¤» 15º0,1¯15,1¯14,1¯)10?) 20:16:25 *** EmptyRedData (EmptyRED@cryto-3BD4E540.static.kgpt.tn.charter.com) has joined #crytocc 20:22:01 *** EmptyRedData has quit (User quit: Leaving) 20:43:04 *** alicia_k8738 has quit (Connection reset by peer) 21:09:19 Offical NSA review panel's report is out 21:09:21 http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/2013-12-12_rg_final_report.pdf 21:09:28 "LIBERTY AND SECURITY 21:09:30 I N A CHANGING WORLD 21:09:32 " 21:09:45 307pp 21:12:16 * dorotea saves 21:12:47 excellent, there's an executive summary 21:13:07 "In an era increasingly dominated by technological 21:13:08 advances in communications technologies, the United States must continue 21:13:10 to collect signals intelligence globally in order to assure the safety of our 21:13:12 citizens at home and abroad and to help protect the safety of our friends 21:13:15 " 21:13:16 dear report, fuck you 21:13:53 * dorotea laughs 21:14:00 that 21:14:01 is page 21:14:09 I'm on 14 21:14:14 Protecting The Nation Against Threats to Our National Security. 21:14:20 on page 11 21:14:24 2nd sentence 21:15:30 if you think we're actually going to pull the nsa's spy shit out of the rest of the world, you're kinda young and naive 21:15:43 lol 21:15:48 I'm not kidding 21:15:49 I'm fully aware that it won't just go away 21:16:01 the NSA will just hide their shit better 21:16:01 it'll reduce 21:18:27 this is a legit middle ground 21:18:54 well at least 21:18:58 if the NSA keeps on spying 21:19:04 let it stop arresting people over bullshit 21:19:07 and misspoken words 21:19:07 "go back to using court orders, in public mostly, and private companies should be storing their own users data and not the govt" 21:19:09 and opinions 21:20:43 yeah this isn't too bad 21:21:50 so far it refuses to define what national security concerns are 21:21:57 which also sort of leaves it at the status quo 21:25:55 pfff 21:26:08 huh 21:26:46 woo 21:27:05 recommendations: cut the legs out from under NSL's and fisc, also put a civil society advocate on fisc 21:29:38 *** jonboi has quit (User quit: Leaving) 21:29:57 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Added SublimeLinter-lua.', '02Merge pull request #2500 from SublimeLinter/masterAdded SublimeLinter-lua.' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/b6e9583c0d...d09db44623) 21:31:38 my god 21:31:40 dorotea: 21:31:42 this is beautiful 21:31:44 page 36 21:31:46 recommendation 29 21:32:53 & recommendation 4 21:34:30 04FichteFoll made 5 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02phpmd and phpcs linters', '02fix sorting', '02fix donate url', '02fix sorting', '02Merge pull request #2499 from hd-deman/masterphpmd and phpcs linters' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/d09db44623...2659332c2b) 21:52:03 I'm writing a paper, I'll look at it later 21:52:15 applying the theory of the "banality of evil" to nsa 21:57:20 *** DrWhat (caronte.ad@DrWhat.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 22:03:00 *** niveus has quit (Ping timeout) 22:10:28 *** niveus (niveus@niveus.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 22:12:41 *** skill3r (skill3r@developers.developers.developers) has joined #crytocc 22:30:52 *** fidane (amnesia@cryto-37C03D90.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 22:33:23 *** TheSaint^ (~TheSaint@67008D61.4C8CEE99.85FF23A1.IP) has joined #crytocc 22:37:26 *** fidane has parted #crytocc (None) 22:38:18 *** fidane (amnesia@cryto-37C03D90.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 22:41:12 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 22:42:23 *** fidane has parted #crytocc (None) 22:46:06 *** GHOSTnew has quit (Ping timeout) 22:46:28 *** GHOSTnew (GHOSTnew@GHOSTnew.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 22:47:22 *** GHOSTnew has quit (User quit: Quitte) 22:47:35 *** GHOSTnew (GHOSTnew@GHOSTnew.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 22:55:57 *** TheSaint^ has quit (Input/output error) 22:58:10 *** TheSaint^ (~TheSaint@67008D61.4C8CEE99.85FF23A1.IP) has joined #crytocc 23:00:07 *** ElectRo` has quit (Client exited) 23:00:21 *** ElectRo` (x@cryto-5A84CAEB.solidonetworks.com) has joined #crytocc 23:05:04 *** S1renide (S1renide@cryto-C1CBC6D1.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 23:06:25 *** S1renide has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 23:17:56 dorotea: this is a pretty good day for privacy 23:17:58 https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/12/one-small-step-privacy-one-giant-leap-against-surveillance 23:18:00 .title 23:18:02 iceTwy: One Small Step for Privacy, One Giant Leap Against Surveillance | Electronic Frontier Foundation 23:18:06 + offical NSA review panel report 23:38:56 *** TheTeflonDon_ (TheTeflonD@cryto-D0D38C62.sub-70-210-198.myvzw.com) has joined #crytocc 23:39:08 *** niveus has quit (Ping timeout) 23:40:44 *** TheTeflonDon_ has quit (User quit: Page closed) 23:43:06 *** pzuraq has quit (Ping timeout) 23:44:15 *** iceTwy has quit (User quit: Disconnecting from server) 23:46:33 *** Zekka (zekka@Zekka.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 23:46:36 *** niveus (niveus@niveus.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 23:47:42 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-9CF8B438.sub-70-197-2.myvzw.com) has joined #crytocc