00:27:58 *** complex (litehode@complex.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 00:44:37 joepie91: are you familiar with a handbook for operation security? 00:44:59 complex: that is a very vague question 00:45:06 "a handbook for operation security"? 00:57:56 ok nvm. i thought operation security was a psychological strategy to keep things hidden from other people 01:05:56 *** dorotea (dorotea@dorotea.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 01:06:17 *** complex has quit (Input/output error) 01:32:49 DOROTEA! 01:32:59 joepie91:) yes hello 01:33:05 hai! 01:33:08 joepie91:) when did I time out >_> 01:33:13 quite some time ago 01:33:14 iirc 01:33:20 yes it would have been days 01:33:23 yes 01:33:27 hm 01:33:33 * dorotea dunno if the power went off 01:33:34 you might've disconnected during the migration of Arvel 01:33:34 lol 01:33:37 Arvel is now in Zurich 01:33:38 * dorotea suspects 01:33:41 hot 01:33:51 so that's one less colocrossing-based leaf 01:33:52 :) 01:33:52 I've been wanting a present in .ch 01:34:09 also, dorotea, http://imgur.com/a/DbsRQ 01:34:12 my Blender learning notes 01:34:16 or well, part of them 01:34:18 I have more by now 01:34:21 keybinding tables etc. 01:34:31 :D 01:34:41 gonna animate you a book? :D 01:34:50 the "view coordinates" image worked out particularly nicely 01:34:52 hmm? :P 01:34:59 * dorotea kekeke's 01:35:10 wow 01:35:20 this shitpc seems so fast compared to the mac I've been using for a week 01:35:22 scary 01:35:28 haha 01:35:34 such magnificence. amazing speed. wow. 01:35:50 It, like, just works 01:35:53 (tm) 01:36:06 * dorotea whispers "zoom zoom" 01:36:26 NP: [Lorde - Royals] [Pure Heroine] [753kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6 01:36:44 HAHAHA I can hear the vinyl crackles in this track 01:36:46 EXCELLENT 01:37:49 hmm 01:37:53 Another trip is in order, je pense 01:38:05 mmm 01:38:06 and plus de français 01:38:08 I think I broke Blender 01:38:08 lol 01:38:18 yup 01:38:20 I have to pass a uh 01:38:22 one of those 01:38:23 it's stuck maxing out cores 01:38:23 er 01:38:24 for no reason 01:38:25 test things 01:38:28 ? 01:38:36 need to be fluent in french this spring 01:38:49 like, 3 semesters of french are required to graduate, only have 2 from previous school 01:38:52 fuck retaking any french 01:39:06 I'll learn subjunctive and fuck their test 01:39:23 relearn subjunctive probably 01:39:27 since I learned it last spring 01:39:28 >_> 01:39:49 (it just doesn't count because the system they use to assign value to classes is retarded) 01:40:24 so my one-on-one intensive in conversational french counts for zero units 01:40:42 but the derpy one that was a bunch of shitty homework about grammar, oh yeah you bet that one transfers perfectly 01:52:21 *** onions (onions@67D8F4C1.265BDFC3.BEDDD6DE.IP) has joined #crytocc 01:56:21 *** onions has quit (Client exited) 02:04:40 *** iceTwy has quit (User quit: WeeChat 0.4.2) 02:11:05 *** onions (onions@cryto-37C03D90.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 02:22:23 *** Sabit (sabit@cryto-75CD01A8.hawaii.res.rr.com) has joined #crytocc 02:22:31 happy new year all! 02:23:57 yeye 02:25:49 yep 02:30:05 happy belated new year, Sabit :) 02:30:13 :D 02:43:55 *** cabaer (cabaer@cryto-7182BB11.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #crytocc 02:44:03 *** cabaer has parted #crytocc () 02:56:55 *** tonymontanacipolla (cipolla185@cryto-E310D83A.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 02:57:01 hi, someone speaks Italian? 03:08:18 .welcome tonymontanacipolla 03:08:19 tonymontanacipolla: welcome to #crytocc! 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I was heating water for coffee so I can continue social commentary 18:01:30 Coinye West and Dogecoin as monetary vehicles for social commentary. Soon: the memecurrencies have public cultural conversations about what wealth really means 18:01:34 dorotea: heh - did you see the tweet thing? 18:01:56 yours? no 18:02:14 right 18:02:15 well 18:02:18 I see no new ones 18:02:18 I accidentally a viral tweet 18:02:19 lol 18:02:19 or something 18:02:27 https://twitter.com/joepie91/status/418091896532000768 18:02:39 look at the retweets and such 18:02:43 and I have no idea how it happened 18:02:46 2 days later, and it's still going 18:03:04 simple relatable message 18:03:07 :> 18:03:40 * dorotea kicks it back off 18:08:15 hmmhmm 18:08:22 I wonder if I can make a post public on fb 18:08:30 * dorotea looks 18:10:11 joepie91:) you don't have a facebook, do you? 18:10:30 post is public, but I hate fragmenting conversations haha 18:13:07 dorotea: I technically have an account, but I never use it 18:13:56 * dorotea nods 18:14:06 I know many of those people :D 18:17:56 *** stassi has quit (Ping timeout) 18:36:47 *** saint911 has quit (Ping timeout) 18:40:15 http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/12/25/the-best-story-yet-about-the-uks-online-porn-filters/ 18:40:16 er 18:40:18 * joepie91 claps 18:40:34 *** stassi (stassi__@cryto-97741A65.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 18:46:07 *** Shell (shell@cryto-9151BAC9.range86-182.btcentralplus.com) has joined #crytocc 18:49:13 *** Shell has quit (User quit: Leaving) 18:55:40 I want to hack forbes and disable their interstitial ads. #gentlemanhacker 18:55:57 * dorotea giggles and goes back to stupid shit 19:14:59 cache needs to hurry the fuck up 19:15:02 chrome is waiting on him 19:15:22 contributing factor is probably the load of 7 19:23:42 godfucking 19:23:49 dorotea: cat broke my french press D: 19:24:02 I -knew- I shouldn't have left the goddamn thing on the kitchen counter 19:24:51 NUUU 19:24:52 dude, that sucks 19:25:43 yes :( 19:48:41 dorotea; there? 19:49:47 joepie91:) yep! I'm not leaving until tomorrow :P 19:50:52 I mean if you ever really need me, tweet at me lol 19:51:14 it lights up all my shit 19:51:54 lol 19:51:55 nah 19:51:58 just had a fun idea 19:52:01 hardware hacking idea 19:52:50 raspberry pi + (home-made?) RGB LED lighting strips + daemon on desktop + cheapest possible Android phone with capacitive touchscreen 19:52:50 Yeah? :D 19:52:53 + wall mount 19:53:08 boom, budget RGB room light and volume control 19:53:21 for ultimate party button or what 19:53:24 if you do the mount right, you can use the phone as just a touch panel on the wall 19:53:27 and remove it to use it as a remote 19:53:40 for overall light/volume control 19:54:01 cause all I'd do is put a big red button on the phone that turns on the mic and starts making all the lights dance to the music 19:54:01 basically light/audio home automation on a budget 19:54:06 haha 19:54:09 well you could do that 19:54:09 :p 19:54:17 because, like, reasons 19:54:20 also disco balls 19:54:22 my idea would be to use a rpi for actual orchestration 19:54:24 the phone would just serve as a remote 19:54:27 yeah 19:54:28 and/or wall panel 19:54:29 I gotcha 19:54:38 my friend has something similar for his car 19:54:43 so that you don't have to write your orchestration code in *throws up* java 19:54:50 just the UI 19:54:51 heh 19:54:52 really? 19:54:54 except the phone controls engine tuning remotely, so he has a "sport mode" 19:54:58 yeah 19:54:59 he uh 19:55:00 heh 19:55:12 works on modems at qualcomm, so he's not afraid to rewrite the OS for his car and phone 19:55:14 which he did 19:55:18 hahahahaha 19:55:30 typical 19:55:31 :D 19:55:36 so he has realtime RF transmitted stats on the engine 19:55:46 he's got a turbo in the engine that adjusts in real time when in sport mode 19:56:13 I haven't spoken to him in a couple years, but the next project was the opposite, to see how tuning the engine could improve fuel efficiency 19:56:16 either way, this home automation thing shouldn't be hard to pull off... $100 for rpi + cheapest possible android phone really, probably another $100 for room-covering RGB LEDs and wires and shit 19:56:21 and a bunch of dev 19:56:24 lol 19:56:36 are you sure he's working in the right industry 19:56:37 :p 19:56:47 nope 19:56:48 lol 19:57:07 he's writing android apps that replace 100k$ specialized software shit 19:57:13 hahaha 19:57:37 and his own version of android because the stock ones don't support drivers for RF links and stuff 19:57:49 also he complained to me about the security in the android kernel 19:57:51 lol 19:58:04 (this was before it was remerged with linux mainline 19:58:06 ) 19:58:11 *** zxcvbnm has quit (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by zxcvbnm_))) 19:58:13 *** zxcvbnm (zxcvbnm@9F88BA40.33FD1BC3.D4256504.IP) has joined #crytocc 19:58:19 *** zxcvbnm_ (zxcvbnm@9F88BA40.33FD1BC3.D4256504.IP) has joined #crytocc 19:58:20 lol 19:58:24 wb zxcvbnm and zxcvbnm_ 19:58:24 he's funny 19:58:27 :P 19:58:27 o ty 19:58:31 it was a great class with him lol 19:58:32 loggy, pointer? 19:58:32 http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2014-01-02#T19-58-32 19:58:37 ^ 19:58:40 that was my x86asm class 19:58:42 dorotea: I can imagine.. :P 19:58:54 learned more from him than the class 19:58:56 :> 19:59:17 so... what was he doing there 19:59:17 :D 19:59:27 refreshing his memory >_> 19:59:36 lol 19:59:45 i've got 2 raspberry pies in my room. 19:59:49 pis 19:59:49 he had an EE degree from a prestigious college already, but it was all on 8-bit and 16-bit systems 19:59:51 pi's 20:00:00 he wanted to check out 64bit asm 20:00:03 which is what we were writing 20:00:21 lol 20:00:30 he's not much older than me 20:00:35 couple years lol 20:01:07 but he was doing a summer "internship" with qualcomm... an internship that paid for the entire rest of his year of expenses 20:01:09 where are rpi $100 ?? 20:01:10 heh. 20:01:12 i got mine for $25.. 20:01:29 yeah rpi is cheeeep 20:02:10 zxcvbnm, the $100 is for phone + rpi 20:02:16 ah right. 20:02:23 I bet zte has a cheaper than shit android phone 20:02:25 rpi might be a bit more expensive for me becauise not in the US 20:02:28 because * 20:02:29 right 20:02:32 phone might be a bit over $50 20:02:33 I'm in love with the moto g right now 20:02:39 (but it's 180/200) 20:02:41 dorotea: I'd just grab a random one from DX really 20:02:44 lol 20:02:45 ye 20:02:51 it just needs to have a capacitive touchscreen and wifi 20:02:54 so is the purpose of the phone just for touch screen or to actually utilize androidOS 20:02:56 I look at phones to last 5 years though 20:03:11 zxcvbnm: for a mountable, usable-as-a-remote control thing 20:03:13 touch screen 20:03:14 and this one does every 3g spectrum currently in use 20:03:17 but also the battery and circuit 20:03:20 ie. auto-recharge when mounted 20:03:32 which means I'll get 10 years out of the phone, tech-wise 20:03:38 and using wifi to talk to the rest of the system 20:03:50 mhm 20:03:58 could even be fancy and use the phone speaker for some feedback bleeps 20:03:58 that does sound fun. 20:04:13 an android phone is by far the cheapest way to accomplish this in a tiny remote-usable package :0 20:04:16 :) * 20:04:25 it would be 20:04:29 I don't have the money for it, but it would be 20:04:29 haha 20:05:00 come here I'll fund all the projects :P 20:05:14 * joepie91 raises eyebrow 20:05:19 lol 20:05:22 also "come here" is probably not a very realistic request :) 20:05:28 i kno 20:05:30 *** saint911 (saint@saint911.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 20:05:35 we've been over that 20:05:57 * dorotea grins 20:06:03 funding hackers <3 20:06:10 (btw, https://archive.org/details/bui_pm_archive) 20:06:26 WELL I WOULDN'T MIND LIKE A PACKAGE OF HARDWARE TO WORK WITH 20:06:28 :P 20:06:35 *** Moh2 has quit (Ping timeout) 20:06:37 :P 20:06:38 rofl 20:06:41 I really do want to get into hardware hacking 20:06:44 the problem is the 'hardware' part 20:06:51 because 'hardware' is not something you can arbitrarily spawn 20:07:00 thus incurring c ost 20:07:01 cost * 20:07:06 find fine I'll make any profit made by advice I give to others contingent upon them donating 10% to you or something 20:07:26 um 20:07:27 If only people would follow my advice, you'd be rich 20:07:30 dorotea: can you rephrase that 20:07:33 no 20:07:36 :D 20:07:43 I'm unable to discern a sentence structure from what you said 20:07:43 :P 20:07:58 I give investment advice to people, I will make said advice contingent upon giving some of the windfall to you 20:08:00 better? 20:08:17 oh 20:08:17 haha 20:08:31 yes 20:08:35 * dorotea giggles 20:08:35 it's a real sentence now :p 20:08:41 dorotea: ironically i do the same thing 20:08:42 It was a real sentence before 20:08:48 I only forgot one comma 20:08:49 :D 20:08:53 but but readabbility :( 20:09:03 * zxcvbnm_ doesn't real sentences 20:09:20 joepie91 knowing one language is fucking hard ok 20:09:22 :P 20:09:31 21:09:25 up 270 days, 1:31, 1 user, load average: 213.56, 210.58, 208.53 20:09:41 * joepie91 doesn't get the idea that "the iowait will clear up over time" 20:09:49 zxcvbnm: :P 20:09:50 wat 20:09:59 you have to reduce demand for it to clear up over time 20:10:03 dorotea: box running archiving stuff 20:10:07 the RAID array is behind 20:10:12 I see that 20:10:14 by.. quite a bit 20:10:14 well 20:10:15 thing is 20:10:21 if you mass-launch pipelines 20:10:26 it will initially get a lot of tiny items 20:10:33 and over time more and more threads will get stuck on larger ones 20:10:39 so THEORETICALLY the load should decrease after a while 20:10:39 does the controller or OS batch the writes? 20:10:50 but that doesn't seem to be happening as much as I want 20:10:56 because the average went down from 220 to 208 20:11:00 over the past 24 hours or so 20:11:04 dorotea: idk 20:11:07 but it's sw raid 20:11:07 brb 20:11:10 because it'd be nice and clean to batch all the small ones together 20:11:38 all the little 4k writes in one write and put all the 4mb+ blocks into ram for a sec 20:11:49 It'd also greatly reduce file descriptor problems 20:11:59 (too many open at once) 20:12:02 back 20:12:08 but I dunno if any part of the OS has enough introspection to manage that 20:12:25 dorotea: thing to take into account here 20:12:28 is that it's all diff processes 20:12:35 that request and write data independently 20:12:39 that'd be hard to batch intelligently 20:12:54 but that's exactly what filesystems do now 20:12:57 root@x :: ~# ps aux | grep wget-lua | wc -l 20:12:57 222 20:13:13 part pf what makes btrfs amazing (and very new ext4) is stuff like that 20:13:20 dorotea: it's ext4 20:13:21 s/pf/of/ 20:13:24 or that's what I formatted it as anyway 20:13:31 yeah 20:13:39 I have a dedicated RAID array for archiving things 20:13:43 on this box 20:13:45 :P 20:13:49 (it's not my box) 20:13:59 * dorotea nods 20:14:48 excellent 20:15:01 nginx is going in main for ubuntu 14.04 20:15:18 corporate security support ++ 20:15:20 also 20:15:20 dorotea 20:15:21 http://tracker.archiveteam.org/wretch/ 20:15:32 that site has been shut down since dec 26th 20:15:33 lol 20:15:36 "shut down" 20:15:44 (read: DNS entries changed) 20:15:51 apparently not enough 20:15:53 lol 20:15:59 ahh, IP's still up tho? 20:16:05 yup :) 20:16:09 :> 20:16:09 so we're archiving a zombie 20:16:12 and have been doing so for the past week 20:16:13 excellent 20:16:14 and it's going fine! 20:16:26 basically waiting for the provider to shut servers off 20:16:27 heh 20:16:30 pretty much lol 20:16:33 but the provider is Yahoo 20:16:34 so eh 20:16:39 might be a while 20:16:39 well 20:16:40 lol 20:16:42 Yahoooooooooooooooooooooo 20:16:42 really it's all over the map 20:16:48 there are netblocks registered to yahoo 20:16:53 even some to inktomi (?!) 20:17:40 LOL 20:17:41 hmm hmm 20:17:47 dorotea: this is an infobox on wikipedia http://owely.com/5vm6ig 20:17:50 "Fate" 20:17:51 hahaha 20:18:06 excellent 20:18:09 :> 20:18:18 * joepie91 suspects there is a fellow yahoo hater who added that 20:18:44 hmmhmm 20:19:42 why is everybody and their brother turning into an adtech company 20:19:51 stupid fucking thing to do with your life 20:20:01 holy crap, this still exists: http://www.hotbot.com/ 20:20:16 dorotea: because ads bring in easy money? 20:20:24 and people don't recognize it as the soul-selling it is? 20:20:31 :| 20:20:39 but adtech is retargeting and segmentation and such 20:20:49 it's not even just "ad network" shit 20:20:50 lol 20:21:13 btw guys i think we should open ad.cryto.com 20:21:23 * joepie91 throws zxcvbnm out of the window 20:21:25 lol 20:21:29 oh 20:21:31 I'll run it 20:21:37 * joepie91 throws zxcvbnm_ out of the window as well, following zxcvbnm 20:21:42 there 20:21:43 much obliged 20:21:46 at least i'm not alone 20:21:49 lol 20:21:53 hehe 20:21:54 "me, myself and...?" 20:21:57 :P 20:22:11 but yeah 20:22:13 on a more serious note 20:22:25 dorotea: I'd like the entire marketing/advertising industry to just die 20:22:26 we'll deliver ads for open source security software for free, costing none to post them, via nsq 20:22:29 and go away 20:22:38 nsq, what 20:23:16 bitly's zeromq sorta system 20:23:24 they wrote their own, opensourced it 20:23:39 bit...ly? 20:23:42 it passes messages 20:23:42 yes 20:24:07 I don't like what they do, but the tech they opensource is really neat 20:24:24 and they actively maintain it all 20:24:30 so, like, shrug 20:24:31 lol 20:25:02 wait, they also did asyncmongo 20:25:02 what 20:25:14 yus 20:25:25 like, fuck bitly or whatever, but the stuff they write is cool 20:25:26 :P 20:25:46 * dorotea won't complain about where free awesome shit comes from 20:26:46 well somebody has to 20:26:53 you do it! 20:26:54 :D 20:27:08 or joepie91, since I know he so loves to bitch 20:27:09 :D 20:27:11 nah I can't stand complaining 20:27:16 * dorotea giggles 20:27:18 problem is when it stops being maintained... 20:27:19 * zxcvbnm_ grabs some popcorn 20:28:01 yep 20:28:08 doesn't matter though, source is there 20:28:26 source for bitly not so much, but the rest of it yes 20:28:44 would be nice to have db export of shorturl -> longurl in csv or something 20:29:20 they can keep the stats and all that, I don't care about that, but somebody needs to be able to pick up the pieces when they die 20:32:45 *** zest (zest@cryto-5A768E90.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 20:33:03 lol 20:33:10 dorotea: I think urlte.am never got that done 20:33:36 they're not deterministically generated anymore, it'd be difficult to do 20:34:23 agh fucking shit 20:34:30 why are "fancy" certificates so expensive 20:34:48 I really don't relish giving all my traffic to an israeli company 20:34:57 *** Cypher (Cypher@Cypher.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 20:36:48 dorotea: mm? 20:37:11 startcom? they're israeli 20:37:22 there's a reason those certs are free. 20:37:26 eh? 20:38:00 look at their mailing address and where they're registered 20:39:00 dorotea: what about it? 20:39:13 they're an israeli corporation 20:39:17 okay, so? 20:39:31 israel cooperates completely with the US govt 20:39:46 It's completely safe to assume the NSA has their master signing key 20:39:53 so? 20:39:57 which means all the free cert traffic is decrypted 20:40:14 making the use of a cert almost but not quite irrelevant 20:40:19 um... 20:40:35 you lose encryption and authenticity 20:40:35 how is this any different from any of the many other major cert vendors, who operate directly from the US? 20:40:37 what's left 20:41:11 and how does using a cert signed by them (as opposed to generated by them) mean you lose encryption? 20:41:13 It isn't, that's why I'm pissed 20:41:20 authenticity is not a real thing in the CA model anyway 20:41:29 because -any- vendor can hand out spoofed certs 20:41:50 I'm not sure that their free certs are signed instead of generated 20:41:55 they are 20:42:09 or used to be, anyway 20:42:27 * dorotea signs in to see if there's any indication 20:44:33 hmm 20:44:38 can't find an indication in the UI 20:48:08 * joepie91 lols at people in thread bitching that "the Aldi sells rubbish and I wouldn't buy any dairy stuff there no matter what, I buy Campina instead, at least that's good quality" 20:48:25 the funny part is that quite literally all dairy products at the Aldi in NL are produced by Campina.... 20:48:28 * joepie91 facepalms 20:49:01 Aldi's lol he discounter store 20:49:19 well store's 20:49:34 then again, this thread is 8 years old.. back then, people were even more stupid with the whole discount store thing 20:49:52 there 2 Aldi's the Aldi brothers had a fight and each have there own aldi brand theres two aldi outlets 20:50:01 Cypher: there used to be a bit of a culture in NL where shopping at the Lidl or Aldi was seen as "being poor" and a bad thing to do 20:50:05 it's not that bad anymore 20:50:15 especially as people figured out that that whole attitude was basically bullshit 20:50:28 and now have to go buy their shit there themselves because lol economy 20:50:30 Yeah I hear ya but its still a discount store. 20:50:43 I go there sometimes to get fruit 20:50:47 of course it is, but you're a fool if you think that somehow implies worse quality 20:50:56 oh I know lol. 20:51:05 thats why I buy fruit there :) 20:51:10 *** d4 (dfou@34CA4FF0.88938B7A.4974FA6A.IP) has joined #crytocc 20:51:12 Aldi and Lidl are absolutely discount stores, no doubt about it 20:51:15 fruit is expensive 20:51:27 but Aldi quality is about on par with the average supermarket and 'big brands' here 20:51:33 and Lidl quality is better than those 20:51:42 (which shows, because Lidl isn't as cheap as it used to be) 20:51:52 Cypher: I usually get my fruit at the Lidl 20:51:55 i'm picky about brand names esp with the whole GMO thing today. 20:51:56 very very good fruit 20:52:08 realistically, you won't be able to figure out where everything comes from 20:52:14 (which is a problem) 20:52:26 I know. that needs to be fixed. 20:52:47 I mean, I'm pretty good at tracking the origin of stuff 20:52:48 i need a botnet 20:52:50 with public info 20:52:53 who can help me? 20:52:57 and even then I am unable to find some things 20:53:04 d4: you have exactly 5 seconds to leave of your own accord 20:53:06 lol 20:53:11 ahaha 20:53:18 thanks.. 20:53:27 * dorotea chuckles 20:53:40 (read the channel rules) 20:53:42 somebody's in the wrong irc, best rectify that :) 20:53:45 im sorry 20:53:49 yes, I was about to do that 20:53:50 Its hard with food labeling these days? the corruption. 20:53:51 maybe i am an idiot 20:53:54 sorry too.. 20:54:07 no interest in this kind of crap 20:54:20 right 20:54:20 *** d4 (dfou@34CA4FF0.88938B7A.4974FA6A.IP) has joined #crytocc 20:54:22 .. 20:54:33 I hear ya. 20:54:48 d4: what exactly are you here for? 20:55:05 .topic 20:55:17 .welcome d4 20:55:18 d4: welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off]. 20:55:37 sorry boss. 20:55:56 goddamnit, I've lost the entire thread of conversation now 20:56:03 lol 20:56:04 right 20:56:11 hey todays logs are not available till tomorrow right? 20:56:13 Cypher: I do a lot of tracking of origins of the crap I buy 20:56:19 and even then I can't find everything 20:56:22 and no, logs are realtime 20:56:24 loggy, pointer? 20:56:24 http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2014-01-02#T20-56-24 20:56:44 i tried to view the real time log today and got a error maybe its my browser headers tho. 20:56:50 oh, /today is broken 20:56:53 you need to go to the actual date 20:56:54 ah. 20:56:59 they're still realtime though 20:57:02 just go to the last day in the list 20:57:07 cp that heh 20:57:23 anyway, Cypher, most of the brand-less stuff 20:57:29 is produced by big brands 20:57:33 as private label stuff 20:57:35 in NL anyway 20:57:46 often with a lower percentage of certain expensive ingredients 20:57:50 yeah thats the kicker. so hard to get clean food these days. 20:57:53 Lidl is an exception to that 20:57:57 they have a bunch of factories of their own 20:58:05 and do a bunch of import stuff 20:58:11 because it can be produced cheaper elsewhere 20:58:31 all the Lidl soda, for example, and the energy drink and bottled water and everything 20:58:36 comes from one of their own 4 factories 20:58:49 That's true I know lots of people that do love Aldi brand tho. pref because its cheaper I guess. 20:58:53 they acquired a large soda/water manufacturer a few years ago 20:58:58 yes 20:59:02 I know I got some lobster tails really good price there. 20:59:05 Aldi mostly sells private label big brand stuff 20:59:17 that's why they also sell different stuff in every country 20:59:20 while the Lidl has more consistent things 20:59:38 Aldi just sells whatever a private label producer in that country can offer 20:59:44 good place for maple syrup :) 20:59:48 Lidl has more centralized distribution 20:59:55 the advantage is that you often have more local things :) 21:00:01 (at the Aldi) 21:00:14 Lidl usually only has local things on sale for like 2 weeks at once, aside from that it's mostly the same stuff in every country 21:00:30 maple syrup isn't something you can buy at the Aldi here for example 21:01:04 Oh? :/ 21:01:14 you're likely in North America 21:01:23 lol d0xed :P 21:01:28 afaik it's only sold at Aldi in NA, and sometimes in the UK 21:01:33 lol 21:01:35 *** cri1 (user@cri1.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 21:01:48 but yeah 21:02:01 the Aldi here sells a lot of dairy products and typical Dutch ready meals 21:02:02 for example 21:02:06 doxed myself lol idk I thought all aldi's were the same. I know my friends in germany have pretty much same things as the Aldi's i go to. 21:02:13 nah 21:02:16 that's just the base things 21:02:32 if you ask them what their Aldi sells in vegetables/fruits/frozen stuff, you'll notice that it differs a lot 21:02:37 ah well I don't really buy much at Aldi's like I said before I mainly go there for fruit lol 21:02:38 as well as other fresh things 21:02:46 bread products will also differ a lot 21:02:55 :p 21:02:59 I don't go to the Aldi for fruit 21:03:02 their fruit is... meh 21:03:03 in NL 21:03:17 it goes bad pretty quickly, and it doesn't taste particularly great either, pretty much on the same level as other supermarkets 21:03:24 Lidl fruit, however... delicious 21:03:25 Its hard to find fresh fruit lol best to grow your own if u can. 21:03:42 we don't actually have any real fresh fruit stores in this city anymore, I think 21:03:47 not in the city center anyway 21:03:57 I know a good one in a nearby town 21:04:05 but it costs like 4 euro for roundtrip with the waterbus to get there 21:04:09 so that becomes expensive quickly 21:04:12 *** cri1 has quit (User quit: Leaving.) 21:04:13 Farmer's markets are nice if u are near one. 21:04:17 er 21:04:19 "waterbus" 21:04:23 == ferry kind of thing 21:04:27 except more structured like rest of public transport 21:04:29 fun fun 21:04:31 not an amphibic thingie 21:04:53 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Waterbus_Dordrecht-Rotterdam.png 21:05:04 that;s the shiny fast one 21:05:12 the express route 21:05:15 lol 21:05:25 http://www.waterbus.nl/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Merwedam-nieuwe-Waterbus.jpg 21:05:30 the cheap type that goes to that town 21:05:33 or well 21:05:35 it probably isn't cheap 21:05:37 but it looks cheap 21:05:37 lol 21:05:44 it's basically just a hull 21:05:55 with stainless steel floors, walls, and a ceiling inside 21:05:57 gets u across tho 21:06:01 and a bunch of plastic chairs 21:06:10 and one of those chip card scanners 21:06:10 yeah 21:06:11 better than doing it the fish way lol 21:06:16 it's like 5 minutes anyway 21:06:18 so it wors 21:06:20 works * 21:06:24 sec 21:07:31 Cypher: http://bit.ly/1g3Ucfv 21:07:46 *** zest has quit (Ping timeout) 21:07:57 :) 3 rivers 21:08:03 ya 21:08:08 that's what that place is more or less famous for 21:08:09 haha 21:08:15 meeting place of 3 rivers 21:08:25 lol 21:08:47 anyway 21:08:52 it's like a 5 minute walk 21:08:54 and a 5 minute ferry 21:08:57 to go there 21:09:01 but... costs money 21:09:10 so I might as well cycle to the Lidl 21:10:04 Yeah thats a good idea if you can save's some cash 21:10:24 I definitely have to :) 21:10:29 don't exactly have much to spend 21:10:34 my favorite thing is that my uni ID gives me unlimited rides on public transit in this county 21:10:38 I hear ya. 21:10:42 dorotea: I hate you 21:10:45 :( 21:11:02 I can go all the way to san jose or paso robles (2 hours in each direction) for "Free" 21:11:16 * joepie91 wonders about the quotes 21:11:28 rides are free, college tuition is not 21:11:34 ahh 21:11:36 :) 21:11:43 so it's "Free" 21:11:51 I'm just paying someone else for it 21:11:52 lol 21:12:09 but whatever, simplifies the finances 21:12:13 at least you didn't get college tuition for the 'free' public transport 21:12:16 like people do with phones 21:12:25 lol 21:12:25 "HEY I GOT A NEW FREE PHON" 21:12:28 PHONE * 21:12:32 with 75/mo plan 21:12:33 lol 21:12:34 turns out they got a $50/mo mobile subscription 21:12:37 that they won't ever use 21:12:41 yeah, pretty much 21:12:46 man I wish it was only 50 21:12:47 lol 21:12:50 I mean, just buy the damn thing directly 21:13:05 I've got a smartphone shit picked out though, if I ever get one this year 21:13:32 walmart sells 30/mo cards with 100 minutes and unlimited texting/data 21:14:00 and the motorola moto g global dual-sim phone is 200$ 21:14:15 "unlimited" 21:14:20 yep 21:14:26 wait, actual unlimited data? 21:14:30 yes 21:14:30 no caveats? 21:14:32 no small print? 21:14:40 no "fair use policy" with a set "fair use" limit? 21:14:42 correct 21:14:50 I can only do 3g speeds on the phone 21:14:52 * joepie91 raises eyebrow 21:14:55 you lucky fuckers 21:14:57 so there ends up being no caveats 21:15:04 well, there is officially caveats 21:15:08 we don't have that in NL :( 21:15:09 but my phone doesn't even support 4g 21:15:10 ? 21:15:22 so there is no "x gigs at some speed, and then it slows" 21:15:27 it "slows" to the speed I'd get anyway 21:15:28 lol 21:15:48 the phone is for global market, so it runs every 3g spectrum on earth 21:15:52 but no 4g chip even in it 21:15:54 *** Sabit (sabit@cryto-75CD01A8.hawaii.res.rr.com) has joined #crytocc 21:16:16 and dual sim, so I can go abroad with it with ease 21:16:22 :) 21:16:37 and for 200$ I'm not QUITE buying a new pc 21:16:37 lol 21:16:54 lol DX ad: http://owely.com/11oA9gh 21:17:11 hahaha 21:17:23 the cameras that can be hacked into via the internet 21:17:24 yes 21:17:27 :D 21:17:28 put them everywhere 21:17:37 *** GHOSTnew has quit (Ping timeout) 21:18:08 soon: the fbi's million-face facial recognition system will be "open sourced" (forcibly) and we'll be able to do it to people in their homes 21:18:13 because we can 21:18:26 I read that as "the fb's" (Facebook) 21:18:30 oddly, the sentence still made sense 21:18:32 :| 21:18:39 ow, yeah it does 21:18:39 lol 21:19:11 woot 21:19:16 openssl.org breached 21:19:26 god fucking damnit 21:19:32 we need to stop hosting blogs on wordpress 21:19:40 they can't actually handle being accessed 21:19:55 hackernews/twitter gets ahold of your post? bye bye server 21:20:09 dorotea: nyud.net! 21:20:22 duct tape over a failed system 21:20:26 but yeah, familiar issue 21:20:26 indeed 21:20:29 but the duct tape works 21:20:31 :) 21:20:46 yes, but like many thing it addresses symptoms not causes 21:20:49 it's also a useful "oh goddamnit CNservers blackholed me AGAIN for no reason" fix 21:21:12 the reason is hackernews wanting your page 21:21:13 lol 21:21:30 I wonder what's bigger than HN, cause they don't actually push that much traffic 21:21:44 slashdot, reddit, HN 21:21:54 also, yes, wordpress is to blame 21:21:59 10k or 20k hits in a few minutes is a lot compared to when people got slashdotted, but not that much anymore 21:22:03 anonnews had no issues with this 21:23:13 I posted one of my rants and got some tens of thousands of hits in minutes, and I did it on a business cable connection 21:23:25 2mbit uplink I think 21:23:26 maybe 4 21:23:27 lol 21:23:49 :P 21:23:53 *** Cryto867 (Cryto867@36E8591C.249EB7B3.7DABD34B.IP) has joined #crytocc 21:23:58 and fuck, that one had images! 21:24:05 can you imagine? me with images? 21:24:15 I mean what is this shit 21:24:16 lol 21:24:21 rare! :p 21:24:35 *** Cryto867 has quit (User quit: Page closed) 21:24:54 *** GHOSTnew (GHOSTnew@GHOSTnew.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 21:29:55 https://medium.com/life-tips/494224e0f983 "14 Fucks I Refuse to Give in 2014 :: Forget about New Year’s Resolutions. This year, I’m making a Fuck It list." 21:32:20 lol 21:33:08 could have been funnier 21:33:13 I am underwhelmed 21:45:25 *** GHOSTnew has quit (Ping timeout) 21:48:56 *** GHOSTnew (GHOSTnew@GHOSTnew.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 21:54:00 dorotea, cool is that your blog. I know joepie91 has a blog on wordpress. I always wanted to make a blog but didn't ever get around to it because i did not ever make my mind up on what hosting site / software to use. so i just abandoned that idea? 21:54:12 hmmm 21:54:13 loggy 21:54:19 loggy pointer 21:54:25 loggy, pointer? 21:54:25 http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2014-01-02#T21-54-25 21:54:36 fun :) 21:54:38 could you regrammar your question? 21:54:50 is medium.com my blog? that's what you're asking? 21:54:55 I could but i'm cooking dinner so I'm trying to be quick typer 21:55:09 medium is not my blog, nor is wordpress 21:55:10 *** stassi has quit (User quit: Leaving) 21:55:10 yeah i was reading the 14 fucks i give 21:55:15 ahh 21:55:17 no, not mine 21:55:25 oh ok lol bought it was you 21:55:26 * Sabit pokes joepie91 21:55:29 thought* 21:55:33 idk why 21:55:54 ok then funny tho half way reading still trying to grill a steak :) 21:58:26 :P 21:58:41 I still hand write all my html for blogs 22:07:54 Nice :D I could do that but Ive become lazy. 22:08:40 I first thought of thinking of that idea actually, because i have trust issues with such hosting/free blog sites etc. 22:11:41 Sabit: hai! 22:11:48 I just hate not having root 22:11:57 so I cofounded a hosting company 22:11:57 lol 22:12:12 repeat after me; root is good, user jail is fail 22:12:14 :P 22:12:29 not having root is bullshit 22:12:29 lol 22:12:39 doesn't rhyme! 22:12:43 :o 22:12:44 at least try with crapshoot or something 22:12:47 :) 22:12:50 share it or containerize, but don't labor under the assumption that your users can't get out of cute permission boxes 22:13:19 what the hosting company say are u on a vps if not i doubt u would get root ? just curious. 22:13:37 [ UP ] Service heartbeat on host monitoring.cryto.net reports that museum.cryto.net is now back up. It was down for 23 seconds. 22:13:37 [ UP ] Service heartbeat on host monitoring.cryto.net reports that grapefruit.cryto.net is now back up. It was down for 10 seconds. 22:13:38 sooooo 22:13:44 we've had the daily urpad downtime 22:13:56 * joepie91 ticks box on daily checklist 22:14:12 such quality 22:14:15 so down 22:14:16 wow 22:15:04 Cypher:) indeed, if you're not on a "vps" you probably won't get root 22:15:11 still working out the cobwebs joepie91 22:15:16 or bare metal 22:15:16 lol 22:15:34 joepie91:) is it at least at the same time every day? :D 22:15:44 so was what ur saying was u was about to get root not on a vps lol 22:16:04 about to get? 22:16:09 motherfucker I own the company 22:16:13 I AM root. 22:16:29 :D 22:16:33 oh lol 22:16:52 u started your own hosting or just running your own server at home? 22:17:14 yes and yes 22:17:19 lol 22:17:23 combined yes 22:17:25 we started on home lines, moved to business lines, now we have a rack 22:17:39 we deploy the second blade soon 22:17:42 whats your uplink 22:17:53 100mbit until we need more 22:18:04 it's still mostly underutilized 22:18:27 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-BAE76FBA.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 22:18:31 joepie91: tried coding an irc client.. didn't work out too well :( 22:18:37 ok so what are the average download / upload speeds? 22:19:02 * joepie91 sighs: http://owely.com/71yqDJI 22:19:11 Sabit: oh? 22:19:20 coudlnt manage threading well 22:19:22 :( 22:19:32 done or have any dstat reports just curious about the specs j/c i enjoy internet stuff lol 22:19:53 Sabit: you shouldn't be threading! 22:20:01 i like organization :( 22:20:01 well 22:20:07 aside from having a GUI thread maybe 22:20:13 Sabit: threads have nothing to do with organization 22:20:18 and shouldn't have anything to do with organization 22:20:21 er, what? average download and upload speeds? 22:20:24 i thought about hosting my own stuff I was thinking of getting gigabit and leasing out vps something like that. 22:20:25 if they do, your architecture was wrong to begin with 22:20:27 yeah 22:20:32 okies 22:20:33 100mbit is the average download and upload speeds. 22:20:34 time to redo 22:20:42 Sabit: what language are you working in? 22:20:46 that's roughly 12.5megabytes per second, as always 22:20:57 we don't use near that much, though 22:20:57 c++ 22:21:04 Sabit: right... what UI toolkit? 22:21:09 whats upload speed per sec 22:21:11 i think i might use c# cuz i dont think i can manage that well :/ 22:21:14 the microsoft one 22:21:17 Cypher:) what do you mean? 22:21:19 ah 22:21:27 um 22:21:28 well 22:21:29 microsoft bloat loading everything 22:21:31 anyway 22:21:36 Sabit: you'll want to look into evented I/O 22:21:42 Cypher:) I don't understand the question, as I've answered it already >_> 22:21:48 *if* the WIndows toolkit is of any proper use, it should have a reactor/loop of some sort 22:21:50 to let you do that 22:21:51 like if u was to open a VNC of your server and open a web browser and go to speedtest.net what would the results be lol 22:21:59 if not, you'll need to run the UI in a separate thread 22:22:04 and have one evented thread for all I/O 22:22:10 Cypher:) like I said already, 100mbit 22:22:14 that's what i tried to do :P 22:22:21 do u have a screen shot of the specs 22:22:24 but my ui kept freezing up 22:22:25 or something 22:22:28 from speedtest 22:22:30 Cypher:) no? why would I? 22:22:36 why wouldn't u. 22:22:38 Sabit: then you're doing it wrong 22:22:40 It's a damn server, not a desktop pc 22:22:45 :p 22:22:47 most probably 22:22:50 It has no window system 22:22:51 all u gotta do is click cp link they save it on the site. 22:22:58 i think ill do it in cli first, then try work it out from there 22:23:05 facepalm. 22:23:08 Sabit: you are most likely trying to run your networking code in the GUI thread without using an I/O loop 22:23:12 i know what it is lol. 22:23:14 that won't work 22:23:20 Cypher: sorry, but your questions make no sense 22:23:35 Cypher:) yeah, so this is a different thing. We buy bandwidth by the megabit. We pay for power. Etc. 22:23:36 there is nothing to "click" 22:23:41 i assume u would have vnc installed on a desktop thats what i did with my linux server. 22:23:45 ... 22:23:47 absolutely not 22:23:56 Cypher: why in $deity's name would you install a graphical environment on a -server- 22:23:57 there is absolutely no "vnc" on our servers. 22:24:13 I would never allow such a piece of software to be installed 22:24:36 it's just useless bloat 22:24:39 useless resource usage 22:24:47 that is better spent doing server things 22:24:54 lol idk its possible to be done i've done it just to toy around. 22:25:00 yes, it's possible 22:25:02 and it's an awful idea 22:25:16 all megabytes of ram used by a vnc are megabytes of ram we can't sell to customers 22:25:23 and it's a bit weird to expect somebody to do something that is an awful idea, and reference it as if it's the most normal thing in the world 22:25:23 :| 22:25:28 i did it to see speediest results because i didn't understand my dstat. 22:25:41 Cypher: you know that there are command-line speedtest clients, right? 22:25:50 nope. 22:25:55 not to mention that speedtest generally isn't that useful on a server 22:25:57 due to bottlenecks 22:26:08 Cypher: https://github.com/sivel/speedtest-cli 22:26:10 i'll have to look in to it more. 22:26:11 bottlenecks of the speedtest servers lol 22:26:15 thanks :) 22:26:20 brb. 22:26:25 dorotea: exactly 22:26:31 our server has as many megabits per second as we purchase for it 22:26:33 lol 22:26:45 dorotea: it's a running joke that anybody can sell you 10gbit regardless of whether they actually have 10gbit 22:26:48 because there's no way to test 22:26:54 because it maxes out every testing endpoint 22:26:54 lol 22:26:55 yep 22:27:18 You'd have to have a directly connected 40gbit capable peer to verify 22:29:01 I dunno what dstat is either, heh 22:29:04 looks neat though 22:29:05 * joepie91 frowns 22:29:09 so apparently 22:29:09 does it from on bsd? 22:29:11 my dad got a letter 22:29:12 from a bank 22:29:15 about my account 22:29:17 being in the red 22:29:23 only problem: afaik I don't even HAVE an account with them anymore 22:29:25 and haven't for like 3 years 22:29:30 so, wtf 22:29:47 also, the wording in the letter, wtf 22:29:54 seems like not, no results for "freshports dstat" 22:30:05 weird 22:30:12 call up the bank 22:30:12 "For the past three months you've been in the red. Perhaps this has escaped your attention?" (pretty much literally translated) 22:30:24 "I shut that shit down years ago wtf nigs" 22:30:27 dorotea: I'll just bother their physical branch later this week 22:30:32 they're like at the end of the street 22:30:32 lol 22:30:35 heh 22:30:36 :> 22:30:39 but seriously 22:30:42 I canceled this thing years ago 22:30:48 so how the fuck 22:31:01 they also threaten to take money from my savings account (which was also canceled) 22:31:07 wtf lol 22:31:15 someone putting money into your account lol 22:31:17 and threaten that if that fails, they will cancel my account 22:31:30 I feel like saying "sure, cancel it for being in the red- and make sure that it's REALLY gone this time" 22:31:30 lol 22:31:39 lmao 22:31:51 but yeah, wtf, I don't even 22:32:11 lol maybe a security service was spying on your account and they couldn't shut it down due to active investigation 22:32:19 :D 22:32:48 *** HiveResearch (HiveResear@developers.developers.developers) has joined #crytocc 22:32:52 that would be amusing 22:32:57 I'd wonder why, though 22:33:04 * joepie91 raises eyebrow 22:33:06 waaaaait a moment 22:33:19 I had one automatic subscription on that account 22:33:20 let me check 22:33:27 LOL 22:33:31 that domain is still active 22:33:35 :D 22:33:41 you missed a domain lol 22:33:51 so uh... did they not cancel my account because there was an active subscription for a domain and they've been taking money for that for the past few years and only just figured out? 22:33:52 or what? 22:34:03 that is mild insanity 22:34:31 i've never had it work that way 22:34:40 if the account no worky, services stop 22:34:40 me neither, but it's the only remotely reasonable explanation I can find 22:34:41 haha 22:34:45 heh 22:34:51 but yeah 22:34:54 I'll go bother the branch 22:34:57 because this is stupid 22:35:24 oh well 22:35:45 * joepie91 adds that one to the list of insane bureacratic derps that make everybody's life slightly more unpleasant 22:36:15 ooooh 22:36:19 fireeye bought mandiant 22:36:24 sheit 22:36:48 FireEye buys Mandiant for $1B in huge cybersecurity merger http://read.bi/19Dy2Ci 22:36:48 15% of all defense M&A now cyber 22:36:56 By buying @Mandiant, @FireEye also acquired @Mandiant's Managed Defense business, which is a MSSP with a large endpoint footprint. 22:37:12 hmmhmm 22:37:16 strategery 22:47:48 sweet. got the speedtest-cli working I like it its simple thanks joepie91 ! 23:08:35 *** LastOneStanding has quit (Ping timeout) 23:15:50 *** joepie91 has quit (Ping timeout) 23:16:15 *** joepie91 (joepie91@cryto-3E6002EF.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 23:17:29 *** pzuraq has quit (Connection reset by peer) 23:19:48 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-BAE76FBA.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 23:39:38 *** saint911 has quit (User quit: vanished .:.) 23:52:53 *** saint911 (saint@saint911.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc