00:05:03 *** MRdjst0rm (MRdjst0rm@cryto-6BF4C3A1.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 00:06:25 *** MRdjst0rm has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 01:05:08 MK_FG:) I live within a mile of the ocean, I'm not familiar with this `snow` concept 01:07:02 hello yes joepie91 I mean satan, #newnewnewnewnewnewtwitter is sexy 01:07:30 It's like bootstrap3.1.0+twitter=? 02:25:08 *** AnonyOps (anonyops@cryto-839FCCA3.cinci.res.rr.com) has joined #crytocc 02:44:14 current activity: http://archive.org/stream/theideaoftheholy00ottouoft/theideaoftheholy00ottouoft_djvu.txt 02:52:56 *** Ari (Ari@Ari.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 03:14:34 Hmm, fairly sure ocean isn't mutually exclusive with snow 03:19:08 *** AnonyOps has quit (Ping timeout) 03:33:04 *** AnonyOps (anonyops@cryto-839FCCA3.cinci.res.rr.com) has joined #crytocc 03:43:56 *** gesichtskirmes (kirmes@gesichtskirmes.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 03:48:04 hey 04:38:33 It pretty much is along the entire western us coast, MK_FG 04:39:02 like 90% of it doesn't get snow 04:39:11 (I'm sure bits of washington do, though) 04:43:35 oh man 04:43:38 this class is gonna be so bad 04:43:59 It's "world views" but really it just covers all the religions, trying to understand the logic within the religion 04:44:22 and I'm reading christian theology and trying not to punch out a wall 04:45:22 "It cannot be expressed by means of anything else, just because it is so primary and elementary a datum in our psychical life, and therefore only definable through itself." 04:45:27 there's your killer lin 04:45:28 e 04:45:32 you need read nothing else 04:46:22 circular justification is myth. Why do we need myth? We don't. 04:50:28 *** AnonyOps has quit (Connection reset by peer) 04:53:19 It's like someone blathering, using language to try and pin down something which doesn't actually exist 04:53:43 based on wholly false premises of logic, but within the system it is itself logical 04:57:42 *** Ari has quit (User quit: Leaving) 06:32:23 *** gesichtskirmes has quit (User quit: Leaving) 07:19:56 *** cinderllaj1526 has quit (Client exited) 07:20:06 *** jonathan-a105 (jonathan-a@cryto-B7D133E7.vnet.sk) has joined #crytocc 07:27:23 *** Moh has quit (Ping timeout) 07:28:42 *** Moh (Happax@714C0096.7A6517E9.459DB6C6.IP) has joined #crytocc 07:41:18 *** Moh1 (Happax@714C0096.7A6517E9.459DB6C6.IP) has joined #crytocc 07:43:48 *** Moh has quit (Ping timeout) 09:05:03 *** pjtyler (pjtyler@cryto-ECAE6740.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 09:06:24 *** pjtyler has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 09:52:33 *** jwa (jwa@cryto-28EFB8D1.ip.telfort.nl) has joined #crytocc 09:57:56 *** jwa has quit (User quit: leaving) 10:27:03 *** Cryto475 (Cryto475@5F0AFEEF.EAC5FCE.16D8ECA6.IP) has joined #crytocc 10:27:50 *** Cryto475 has quit (User quit: Page closed) 11:55:39 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 12:22:49 *** iceTwy has quit (Ping timeout) 12:27:43 *** truetravesty has quit (User quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 12:30:05 *** truetravesty (truetraves@7ABB88F7.2C566207.79E6D716.IP) has joined #crytocc 12:32:29 *** monod (~pmpf@monod.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 12:32:41 g'd morning. 12:32:45 loggy, pinter 12:32:47 oops 12:32:49 loggy, pointer 12:32:49 http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2014-02-04#T12-32-49 12:32:53 loggy thanks 12:34:02 and I'm reading christian theology and trying not to punch out a wall 12:34:03 lol 12:35:13 religion is just a way of asking ourselves how can all this reality... be. 13:05:31 anyone knows anything about efnet? Are there any interesting channels? Because I've just seen that there's no nickserv service right now. 13:10:27 *** monod has quit (Ping timeout) 13:13:07 *** monod (~pmpf@monod.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 13:24:44 *** monod has quit (Ping timeout) 13:26:51 *** monod (~pmpf@monod.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 13:47:04 *** monod has quit (User quit: gotta go!) 14:08:13 Not "right now", I think it's what makes efnet efnet ;) 14:08:29 (lack of nickserv, I mean) 14:10:03 * joepie91 is finding DHT to be a very interesting topic 14:10:27 just read up on the basic concepts and workings of DHT, now reading about the BitTorrent Kademlia implementation... 14:16:49 Iirc bep-5 is like 10% dht 90% implementation details (i.e. how to conserve ram with buckets) 14:17:32 Maybe rfc-like docs are better that way? 14:17:49 joepie91: Python has a pydht library that I think already does Kademlia like peer finding or something similar 14:18:36 Xeross: doesn't matter 14:18:47 I'm interested in knowing how DHT works and how to implement it, not just in using it ;) 14:18:51 Mhm 14:22:18 When a node with ID "N" is inserted into the table, it is placed within the bucket that has min <= N < max. 14:22:22 * joepie91 claps 14:23:53 *** beowulf (a2d50105@beowulf.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 14:24:20 Haha 14:44:42 *** Stassi (Stassi__@cryto-61E72864.ighost.se) has joined #crytocc 14:54:37 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 15:14:45 aff marketing, excellent, just what I had hoped to read about tonight 15:15:16 What are you reading? 15:15:31 well, it's not tonight yet 15:15:39 so I'm reading what you just wrote 15:15:48 but I will be reading joepie91's blog post 15:16:00 Oh, cool. I still haven't switched to his new RSS feed 15:16:12 mostly because my feedreader is kind of dippy 15:29:27 ahh 15:29:33 I have it mailed to me 15:29:36 * dorotea hates rss 15:36:34 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 15:47:57 * joepie91 throws furniture into the channel 16:00:31 dorotea: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/02/03/editorial-why-games-should-enter-the-public-domain/ 16:45:38 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 16:54:45 since we're talking about copyright terms here, s/games/everything/ 16:55:10 see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lWZLFkmqAE&t=18m50s 17:04:52 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Update c.json', '02Merge pull request #2741 from titoBouzout/patch-2Update c.json' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/e7581234c3...aabdc9a301) 17:05:22 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Update b.json', '02Merge pull request #2740 from titoBouzout/patch-1Update b.json' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/aabdc9a301...78f831c264) 17:07:25 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02added sublime-nunjucks syntax 0.1.0', '02Merge pull request #2745 from mogga/masteradded sublime-nunjucks syntax 0.1.0' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/78f831c264...4e9d9c4143) 17:07:55 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Adding 'Flight JS Snippets' to the repository', '02Merge pull request #2747 from cameronhunter/masterAdding 'Flight JS Snippets' to the repository' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/4e9d9c4143...ae8ae96273) 17:08:25 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Added Sublime-Pebble to the list', '02Merge pull request #2748 from jbrooksuk/sublime-pebbleAdded Sublime-Pebble to the list' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/ae8ae96273...a258086322) 17:08:30 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Codec plugin supports all Sublime Text versions', '02Merge pull request #2749 from furikake/masterCodec plugin supports all Sublime Text versions' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/a258086322...184cf8ab3d) 17:55:01 *** Zekka (zekka@Zekka.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 18:05:03 *** tmbucky (tmbucky@cryto-A068D221.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 18:06:25 *** tmbucky has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 18:07:09 *** blow (blow@cryto-7C311776.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #crytocc 18:16:45 *** blow has quit (User quit: Page closed) 18:35:55 *** mama (me@1C885701.EC8253C9.D4488F34.IP) has joined #crytocc 18:53:22 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03wpcom-to-jekyll on branch 10master: '02Bugfix' (https://github.com/joepie91/wpcom-to-jekyll/compare/3db03618e0...b17347c166) 18:55:12 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 19:09:31 *** Zekka (zekka@cryto-205C8434.arizona.edu) has joined #crytocc 19:18:00 *** monod (monod@cryto-C52FEA21.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #crytocc 19:18:13 hello 19:18:45 joepie91, bucket-things in computer science are pretty interesting - have you ever heard of bucket sort? 19:28:45 hai 19:28:52 heard of it, haven't looked into it 19:33:07 *** Cypher (Cypher@Cypher.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 19:36:42 it's not the easiest thing to look into iirc 19:36:49 not impossible to understand too 19:45:49 I've been thinking about how to implement a giant decentralized "shared hard drive" 19:45:55 with access controls and all that 19:46:11 the question is Wju? 19:46:13 Why* 19:46:14 lol 19:46:22 lol to my typo 19:46:37 I mean, is it really urgent? 19:46:45 but I know that maybe this is not a good question 19:46:58 because to-do lists are always difficult and stuff 19:47:41 toy project :) 19:48:25 hahaha 19:48:39 actually, I've been thinking of a shared computer like 2 days ago :D 19:49:06 yet I was just wondering during spare time 19:49:29 today I studied more efficiently with that meditation tip I've sent ya! 19:49:32 monod: it's not a project with a deadline or a goal 19:49:36 just something to experiment with 19:49:50 uhm ya 19:49:54 yea* 19:49:56 I need a toy project to take my mind off things 19:50:25 I've figured out a bunch of stuff already, but still have a few unsolved questions/concerns 19:50:26 :P 19:50:52 I need a toy project to take my mind off things 19:50:53 oh lulz 19:51:14 namely handling concurrent write conflicts, directory listing storage, flood protection for said storage, and file 'health' stats gathering 19:51:25 oh joepie91, maybe you can suggest me well - I decided to take a look into the evilzone community/forum 19:51:41 flood protection? 19:52:10 uhm, I feel like evilzone would be a waste of time compared to these few last things you just mentioned 19:52:57 :P 19:53:13 and yeah, if there is some kind of shared storage for directory information... 19:53:13 that must be a yes. 19:53:23 I'd want to prevent people from filling it up with bogus data 19:53:30 the question is; how do you define "bogus" 19:53:37 and how do you detect/prevent it 19:53:54 (also, there's a reason I haven't been active around Evilzone for a loooong time) 19:55:45 the question is; how do you define "bogus" 19:55:46 meaning some information that overrides the storage stats? 19:57:32 no 19:57:43 as in, data that doesn't have to be stored, that is just intended to fill up space 19:57:49 malicious intent 19:58:52 I don't have a solid ground beneath these things and I can't understand this too well :( But I'm not giving up trying understanding 19:59:26 also, notice the improvement in English in that statement :) 19:59:27 lulz 20:01:18 the context of that was the "shared hard drive"? 20:05:13 (btw, in visiting evilzone I noticed a quite big return into coding for me :) I think I should definitely find something like this that keeps my hands on the keyboard.. I'd like to fluently write projects! The only thing, now, is... that I can fluently program in java only and that I do not have any project to make - and this puts me in the state of being willing to hop into any project that may need me!) 20:05:48 also, I have to watchout for university, it should take the maximum time over the rest, if I want to give it a sense 20:05:51 meaning* 20:12:50 monod: I've noticed a lot of improvements in your English lately 20:12:50 :) 20:13:07 and yes, that was the context 20:14:06 improvements over long periods of time are still quite uncertain 20:14:19 yet happy to hear that! 20:15:02 also, I use "yet" instead of "but" when I have to start a phrase with that (but), because it's better to use 'yet', but I don't know if this is shared by others 20:15:39 and 'but' should be more intended inside phrases, after commas. "this and that, but not those." "Yet, I don't think so." 20:16:00 .t http://falkvinge.net/2014/02/04/major-bitcoin-exchange-not-executing-withdrawals-now-owes-clients-38m-in-disappeared-money/ 20:16:02 (mt gox) 20:16:08 .title 20:16:10 lysobit: Major Bitcoin Exchange Not Executing Withdrawals; Now Owes Clients $38M In Disappeared Money - Falkvinge on Infopolicy 20:19:17 monod: I'll try to explain the difference 20:19:35 "yet" == kind of like "even though", "despite that" 20:19:52 okay, that was badly explained 20:19:59 let me try that again 20:19:59 lol 20:20:23 monod: argh, I can't find a way to explain it well 20:20:24 :( 20:21:08 lysobit: I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO 20:21:12 (generic you, not personal you) 20:21:16 " The author is personally affected by MtGox’ behavior, having a six-figure dollar amount in such non-executed withdrawals. He considered Gox to be a safer repository for bitcoin than his own probably-hackable computer. That judgment may not have been accurate." 20:21:23 haha 20:21:31 "that judgment may not have been accurate" 20:21:36 that... is a way to put it 20:22:14 joepie91, I know that "yet" is used when something "still does not", like: I haven't had dinner yet 20:22:30 yet, the use of 'yet' at the beginning of phrases should be a secondary usage of 'yet' :D 20:23:03 that... is a way to put it 20:23:03 lol 20:26:31 gosh, that's terrible news! 20:27:29 dinneeeeer! 20:39:52 *** Moh1 has parted #crytocc (None) 20:43:35 *** Moh (Happax@714C0096.7A6517E9.459DB6C6.IP) has joined #crytocc 20:52:38 *** orbit (orbit@cryto-E704E592.range81-158.btcentralplus.com) has joined #crytocc 20:53:07 wow, I completely forgot about this place, the fuck is wrong with me. 20:55:14 what IS wrong with you. 20:55:17 :P 21:00:01 ohai orbit 21:00:03 ohai beowulf 21:00:04 :P 21:00:17 baaack. 21:00:18 orbit: not sure if I spammed you with this before, so... 21:00:21 .welcome orbit 21:00:21 orbit: welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off]. 21:00:25 lulz 21:00:28 So much beowulf jeez, Hai joepie91 hw's everything going? 21:00:30 Yeah you did lol 21:00:34 alright :P 21:00:36 well 21:00:41 *how's 21:00:42 things are going better than last week in some respects 21:00:46 though my internet thas gotten more unusable 21:00:51 pending ISP switch 21:01:19 Good, shit man, to be fair I think your lucky no matter what speed you get I'm stuck at 150kb/s 21:01:28 orbit: the problem isn't speed 21:01:29 it's stability 21:01:36 Ah got you. 21:01:39 nearly all of my TCP connections die every 5 minutes 21:01:43 Ahhh 21:01:54 a ZNC is the only way to keep my shit somewhat operational on IRC 21:01:57 Do they have a reason? 21:01:59 and even then it lags for minutes on end 21:02:01 Damn dude that sucks 21:02:17 orbit: the reason is almost certainly that KPN's network is shit and massively oversubscribed 21:02:33 I haven't even bothered calling customer support 21:02:40 the last 10 times I did that it didn't turn up anything useful either 21:02:45 oh lol 21:02:52 for all I know, it's just a fucking TTS engine and not an actual human 21:02:56 so mt.gox did illegally earn millions of dollars (thousands of bitcoins for hundreds of dollars each) over some years? That's the message behind what happened? 21:02:56 all you get are knowledge base answers anyway 21:03:07 useless customer support 21:03:50 lol fair, Probably isn't blockchain getting in shit for offering a tumbling service? 21:04:54 uhm 21:05:12 I can't understand why you did address blockchains o_O 21:05:14 monod: I don't think mt gox has any intention of scamming people 21:05:20 I just think they are massively incompetent 21:05:22 joepie91, oh. 21:05:23 and don't want to admit it 21:05:27 oh, lol 21:05:35 if that was the case.... 21:05:40 ...omg! 21:07:04 Yet this is going to be the first point that bitconis skeptics are going to discuss to prove their skepticism 21:07:07 imo 21:07:14 *** Cypher has quit (Ping timeout) 21:07:35 because: mt.gox is still earning real dollars from other's transactions, while somebody else's losing those dollars 21:07:54 I've been warning people about mt. gox for, what, 2 years now? 21:08:04 guess this is the point where the people who didn't listen, get burned 21:08:23 warning people because of mt.gox incompetentness? 21:11:38 oh my god 21:11:53 monod: yes 21:12:01 Yet this is going to be the first point that bitconis skeptics are going to discuss to prove their skepticism 21:12:05 actually this has nothing to do with bitcoin 21:12:09 or bitcoin skepticism 21:12:12 I now read that "up until ten days ago, MtGox had executed bitcoin withdrawals perfectly." 21:12:12 this is purely a problem with mt. gox 21:12:17 because mt. gox is run by incompetent idiots 21:12:21 to put it bluntly 21:12:27 and has been since its inception 21:12:34 of course, but they're still a big part of the bitcoin community, no? 21:13:05 monod: no 21:13:09 they're a big part of press coverage 21:13:14 their community involvement nears 0 21:13:47 and they are not influencing the majority of the bitcoin transactions and community 21:13:51 right? 21:14:25 also 21:14:27 next warning 21:14:33 bitcoin foundation 21:14:39 they will almost certainly harm bitcoin in the long run 21:14:52 their interests seem to lie with building their own little political empire 21:14:58 not with supporting bitcoin or the community around it 21:15:03 and they are not influencing the majority of the bitcoin transactions and community 21:15:06 not really 21:15:08 (So only those who made transactions with them got to pay for either their incompetentness or a scam (who knows)) 21:15:15 exactly 21:15:19 but I really need to sleep now 21:15:24 alright! 21:15:26 keep an eye on the Bitcoin Foundation 21:15:32 I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them 21:15:32 I'll google it 21:15:46 goodnight all 21:15:48 good night! 21:34:56 I go! 21:35:00 *** monod has quit (User quit: quitttttttt) 21:55:14 *** aHlTat (aHlTat@aHlTat.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 22:00:03 *** Stassi has quit (User quit: Leaving) 22:03:07 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-BAE76FBA.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 22:05:29 YO 22:12:02 sup 22:12:10 not much, yourself/ 22:12:33 chilling 22:12:42 writing a scheduler for Minix 3 22:31:40 *** orbit has quit (Ping timeout) 22:54:07 *** kilo has quit (Input/output error) 22:54:27 *** kilo (kilo@kilo.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 23:03:01 *** beowulf has quit (User quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 23:03:36 *** iceTwy has quit (User quit: WeeChat 0.4.2) 23:04:32 *** Charles (Charles@Charles.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 23:04:45 .bitcoin 23:04:46 1 BTC = $801.10, 1 BTC = €679.99 23:05:30 lets say ur on irc and shopping in a super market. u start using the application on ur phone 23:05:49 someone says "holy sht. im on that channel too!" 23:06:08 and starts listing out the server channel etc 23:06:59 and u r like 1) wow creeps like this r on the same channel as me 2) my identity :( 23:07:03 nvm goodbye 23:07:20 *** lblissett has quit (Ping timeout) 23:31:20 *** Charles has quit (Client exited) 23:46:21 04FichteFoll made 3 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Add Gulp Snippets', '02Fix Gulp SnippetPackage order and empty lines.', '02Merge pull request #2719 from FilipeLinhares/masterAdd Gulp Snippets' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/184cf8ab3d...0107907a43) 23:46:51 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02CSScomb: Update repo url', '02Merge pull request #2752 from tonyganch/repo-urlCSScomb: Update repo url' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/0107907a43...76bc4fbf66) 23:49:08 *** AnonyOps (anonyops@cryto-839FCCA3.cinci.res.rr.com) has joined #crytocc 23:49:54 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02add channel for aligntab', '02Merge pull request #2743 from randy3k/masteraligntab - st2 support in another branch' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/76bc4fbf66...0076ab2561)