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12:00:39 *** mama (me@3AC54AA.AC7E1E8C.8CDEEAE.IP) has joined #crytocc 12:02:59 modning :P 12:05:10 iceTwy: is your electrum server broken 12:12:42 http://blog.oleganza.com/post/76213549017/mtgox-and-malleable-transactions 12:31:10 *** AnonyOps (anonyops@AnonyOps.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 12:31:19 today an university mate of mines told me he'd like to enter the world of bitcoins :D 12:31:40 even though, he did not seem to have a clear mind about them 12:37:09 *** AnonyOps has quit (Connection reset by peer) 12:42:59 *** iceTwy has quit (Input/output error) 12:44:34 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-BAE76FBA.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 12:47:51 *** pzuraq has quit (Ping timeout) 12:56:30 http://cryto.net/~joepie91/blog/2014/02/10/why-mtgox-is-full-of-shit/ 12:56:52 *** burn0ut (cryto@AA590F93.362B7402.283603DB.IP) has joined #crytocc 12:57:12 *** burn0ut has quit (User quit: leaving) 12:58:06 *** burn0ut (cryto@AA590F93.362B7402.283603DB.IP) has joined #crytocc 12:59:13 *** burn0ut has quit (User quit: WeeChat 0.3.8) 13:11:54 LOL, the title 13:11:57 so explicit :D 13:12:04 monod: actually http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1xiks3/why_mt_gox_is_full_of_shit_and_why_you_should/ 13:12:07 I gave it a longer title on reddit 13:12:23 but yeah, I'm tired of their crap really 13:12:31 they just keep screwing up 13:12:40 and keep blaming others for it... 13:14:20 to me, it just looks like a move for stealing BTC, simple 13:14:45 monod: I don't feel that mt. gox intentionally tried to run away with BTC 13:14:51 they just aren't taking their responsibility 13:14:55 uh 13:16:56 in the meanwhile, the article is making me wondering about who invented and wrote the bitcoins protocol and how he managed to make it secure (what preventive measures he did take) 13:17:12 iirc, it was a guy by an oriental/asiatic nickname 13:18:27 but, whoever he was, I was wondering about how could he/them write a bugless program. Maybe because what they wrote was not a program but a protocol and protocols are "easier" to define without bugs? 13:20:24 *** boiyd (boiyd@206CF2F6.AA517E7E.DB3C1458.IP) has joined #crytocc 13:26:17 monod: satoshi nakomoto 13:26:22 and it wasn't bugless 13:26:27 it was just very secure, and bugs were found early on 13:26:32 the protocol? 13:26:36 well 13:26:40 both the protocol and the base implementation 13:26:45 (which is now bitcoind/bitcoin-qt) 13:26:52 (good) 13:26:58 it has likely been peer-reviewed before release 13:27:15 because, as it was worded by somebody whose name I forgot, "it's missing entire classes of bugs" 13:28:03 "missing" as in "didn't watchout for them"? 13:29:01 no, as in "they don't exist" 13:29:08 entire types of bugs just didn't exist 13:29:14 haha lol 13:45:14 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-BAE76FBA.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 13:45:47 wb pzuraq 13:48:27 *** pzuraq has quit (Ping timeout) 14:00:35 *** monod has quit (User quit: gotta go! cya later) 14:05:04 *** eggtimer (eggtimer@cryto-3EACDE1D.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 14:06:26 *** eggtimer has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 14:23:06 *** achus has quit (User quit: Leaving) 14:45:57 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-BAE76FBA.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 14:49:13 *** pzuraq has quit (Ping timeout) 14:52:11 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Python Imports Sorter compatibility with ST3 marked.', '02Merge pull request #2802 from vi4m/masterPython Imports Sorter compatibility with ST3 marked.' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/87d60c49d7...73040c5e61) 15:01:28 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 15:04:27 *** Stassi (Stassi__@cryto-61E72864.ighost.se) has joined #crytocc 15:21:49 *** beowulf (Whyareyou@beowulf.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 15:26:47 *** SAM (25dda2e2@cryto-7D2C245B.mibbit.com) has joined #crytocc 15:40:21 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 15:46:43 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-BAE76FBA.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 15:48:41 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 15:49:48 *** pzuraq has quit (Ping timeout) 15:55:58 *** mama (me@cryto-B3488B81.dfri.se) has joined #crytocc 16:07:45 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 16:13:48 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-BAE76FBA.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 16:22:40 *** Haake (Haake@cryto-BA6D4F8B.pools.spcsdns.net) has joined #crytocc 16:23:03 *** Haake has parted #crytocc (None) 16:29:20 amazing! 16:29:38 coindesk (for what it's worth) removed mtgox from their bitcoin price index 16:32:23 wait so mtgox found a flaw in bitcoin wallets... that's been fixed already in mainline and they're halting withdrawals so they can finally get around to fixing it too? 16:35:03 dorotea: not quite 16:35:05 *** Haake (Haake@cryto-15CB7766.pools.spcsdns.net) has joined #crytocc 16:35:16 *** Haake has parted #crytocc (None) 16:35:18 dorotea: http://cryto.net/~joepie91/blog/2014/02/10/why-mtgox-is-full-of-shit/ 16:35:20 basically... 16:35:37 they 'found' something that has been known for years, and it isn't even clear whether you can call it a flaw 16:35:45 implemented it incorrectly in their own client/daemon 16:35:49 and are now blaming the protocol 16:36:02 in short, they're using the transaction ID for something it wasn't meant to be used for 16:36:27 oh lulz 16:36:29 I can read 16:36:30 lol 16:36:45 * dorotea <3 *waves you off* 16:37:06 dorotea: comments at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7211286 and http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1xiks3/why_mt_gox_is_full_of_shit_and_why_you_should/ 16:37:53 :> 16:40:22 wow, like, fuck hn 16:40:41 they downvote the shit out of people for /snark/ 16:41:08 * dorotea goes back to twitter where snark is a language you can use alongside english, spanish, and arabic 16:44:53 dorotea: boop XMPP! 16:50:55 *** achus (achus@achus.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 17:16:49 *** GHOSTnew has quit (Ping timeout) 17:30:29 *** GHOSTnew (GHOSTnew@GHOSTnew.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 17:33:45 *** mama (me@29745580.5C7DEE5C.6BDDE61D.IP) has joined #crytocc 17:45:17 *** Zekka (zekka@Zekka.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 17:50:43 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 17:59:39 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 18:07:44 *** Zekka (zekka@cryto-917D935.arizona.edu) has joined #crytocc 18:42:44 *** SAM has quit (User quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 18:51:34 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 19:05:01 *** iceTwy has quit (Ping timeout) 19:08:26 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 19:10:51 *** pzuraq has quit (Input/output error) 19:17:25 *** Zekka (zekka@cryto-205C8434.arizona.edu) has joined #crytocc 19:36:30 "And you clearly didn't succeed" http://i.imgur.com/m99KvOo.jpg 19:45:03 04FichteFoll made 3 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02add FindResultsCommitChanges', '02As discussed in IRC rename package to FindResultsApplyChanges', '02Merge pull request #2797 from titoBouzout/patch-2add FindResultsApplyChanges' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/73040c5e61...2ad91fccce) 19:48:05 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Added Flatron theme', '02Merge pull request #2798 from jbrooksuk/flatronAdded Flatron theme' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/2ad91fccce...6551b2e93b) 19:49:36 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Add the MikrotikScript package.', '02Merge pull request #2803 from Kentzo/masterAdd the MikrotikScript package.' 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I'd go farther than just "didn't succeed" :P 22:51:25 fucking 22:55:37 *** Moh (Happax@FC4291B6.E33CEB64.57D2FD60.IP) has joined #crytocc 23:00:29 https://lh3.ggpht.com/_JlyOA9at_H0/TC3luacHvPI/AAAAAAAAEFA/-oMxAo0WB_Q/s1600/Gox.Seuss.jpg