00:25:48 *** iceTwy has quit (User quit: WeeChat 0.4.3) 00:28:07 https://musalbas.com/cloud/d0f95bc6f32436a2c1eca09809802e7f/WhatDoesMtGoxSay.mp3 00:31:09 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 00:46:02 *** iceTwy has quit (User quit: WeeChat 0.4.3) 01:05:05 *** THX1337b (THX1337b@cryto-BAA6CE.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 01:06:26 *** THX1337b has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 01:10:37 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 01:34:42 *** bugzy (bugzy@9FBD4691.FC3068B1.29B5A855.IP) has joined #crytocc 01:42:18 *** bugzy has parted #crytocc () 02:16:43 *** pzuraq has quit (Input/output error) 02:28:07 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-8D4BA9A4.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) has joined #crytocc 03:01:16 *** Zekka (zekka@Zekka.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 03:18:01 *** Cryto478 (Cryto478@DE42B60E.14144309.93686D45.IP) has joined #crytocc 03:24:49 *** fungos has quit (Client exited) 03:37:49 04FichteFoll made 4 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Add KRL Validator package', '02Fix details URL for KRL Validator', '02KRL Validator only works with ST3', '02Merge pull request #2846 from trevordixon/patch-1Add KRL Validator package' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/2e42971ee8...65b17066bc) 03:50:55 *** gesichtskirmes (kirmes@gesichtskirmes.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 03:51:02 finally 04:31:48 *** Cryto478 has parted #crytocc () 05:31:08 *** gesichtskirmes has quit (nexus.cryto.net box.cryto.net) 05:31:08 *** Zekka has quit (nexus.cryto.net box.cryto.net) 05:31:08 *** Ari has quit (nexus.cryto.net box.cryto.net) 05:31:08 *** Moh has quit (nexus.cryto.net box.cryto.net) 05:31:08 *** achus has quit (nexus.cryto.net box.cryto.net) 05:31:08 *** Researcher has quit (nexus.cryto.net box.cryto.net) 05:31:08 *** foolex has quit (nexus.cryto.net box.cryto.net) 05:31:08 *** joepie91 has quit (nexus.cryto.net box.cryto.net) 05:31:08 *** lysobit has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 05:31:08 *** SpaghettiCode has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 05:37:27 04shiny made 1 commit(s) to 03aizhan-baidu-keywords-exporter on branch 10master: '02update REAME.md' (https://github.com/shiny/aizhan-baidu-keywords-exporter/compare/088e4c64fa...8fcd8b165d) 05:45:11 *** pzuraq_ (pzuraq@cryto-8D4BA9A4.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) has joined #crytocc 05:45:14 huh 05:45:20 * dorotea waves at box 05:45:31 *** YuKy (YuKy@cryto-165EA1AE.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 05:46:28 nickserv down? 05:47:07 *** pzuraq has quit (Ping timeout) 05:47:19 correct 05:47:28 box is gone, or nexus 05:47:45 k 05:48:00 but probably nexus, since that's the hub and where services are 05:48:01 I thin 05:48:02 k 06:46:10 *** joepie91 (joepie91@5C4B2CE4.B8E60B3B.FD9B6484.IP) has joined #crytocc 06:46:10 *** foolex (foolex@5D6B0912.EC145393.9A74EEF1.IP) has joined #crytocc 06:46:10 *** Researcher (SysAdmin@lebnodes.com) has joined #crytocc 06:46:10 *** achus (achus@achus.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 06:46:10 *** Moh (Happax@4A7689B1.20273E2D.459DB6C6.IP) has joined #crytocc 06:46:10 *** Zekka (zekka@Zekka.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 06:46:10 *** ElectRo` (x@cryto-4E0C48D2.noisetor.net) has joined #crytocc 06:46:10 *** SpaghettiCode (pasta@code.bonanza) has joined #crytocc 06:46:10 *** lysobit (musalbas@localhost) has joined #crytocc 06:46:22 *** YuKy has quit (User quit: Good bye) 06:54:21 *** ElectRo` has quit (Input/output error) 09:21:17 MK_FG or anyone: whats good practice to detecting intrusions on a linux box? Anything like logfile monitoring or some kind of AV for linux servers? whats good practice? 09:24:47 I certainly don't have a good one-liner answer, probably depends on when you want to detect it - attacks (successful or not), as it happens (and maybe have something act then too), or after the fact 09:25:03 There are very different things for these three 09:25:38 *** pzuraq_ has quit (Input/output error) 09:42:01 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-BAE76FBA.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 09:45:07 *** Cryto350 (Cryto350@cryto-D0D23A58.balt.east.verizon.net) has joined #crytocc 09:45:52 *** Cryto350 has quit (User quit: Page closed) 09:59:59 *** randolph-z1487 has quit (Client exited) 10:10:44 *** archibaldx1187 (archibaldx@cryto-DEE9B3C5.vnet.sk) has joined #crytocc 10:12:15 *** archibaldx1187 has quit (Connection reset by peer) 10:20:47 *** monod (~pmpf@monod.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 10:21:10 seems like eating and drinking is working O_O 35.5 this morning O_O 10:22:19 Did you have a pain in the throat? Because if not, super-high fever might also be a food poisoning 10:22:50 Though I think you wouldn't have been able to hold down much of a dinner in the latter case ;) 10:23:32 hehe 10:24:21 btw, I thought of a *little* food poisoning because I ate a little piece of chocolate that was not open by anyone until I did, last saturday I guess 10:24:37 but it was being stored for only 2 months, like 10:24:55 so I'm not quite sure of this indeed :hmm: 10:25:13 I can only feel little body-ache, but no head-ache atm ^^ 10:25:36 Well, it's also the morning ;) 10:25:45 uhm right 10:25:57 so let's wait 10:29:58 *** vincenzon6901 (vincenzon6@cryto-E1647F68.vnet.sk) has joined #crytocc 10:31:30 *** vincenzon6901 has quit (Connection reset by peer) 10:53:33 *** Cryto004 (Cryto004@8756201E.4B29375C.F6FA8883.IP) has joined #crytocc 10:53:39 *** Cryto004 has quit (User quit: Cryto004) 11:05:04 *** fanat1ck (fanat1ck@cryto-49234D8C.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 11:06:26 *** fanat1ck has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 11:13:20 gotta go 11:13:25 *** monod has parted #crytocc (Quit) 11:59:25 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 12:14:49 *** iceTwy has quit (Input/output error) 12:15:25 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 12:15:44 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Added metadata to ITDCHelper', '02Merge pull request #2847 from akalongman/patch-3Added metadata to ITDCHelper' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/65b17066bc...dbef39aa71) 13:48:52 wow 13:49:02 Ars just started a series of articles about setting up your own mail server 13:49:12 http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/how-to-run-your-own-e-mail-server-with-your-own-domain-part-1/ 13:49:18 just /take a look/ at the number of comments 13:49:21 6 pages of 'em 13:49:49 mostly people who don't have a single clue about email servers or have never even tried setting one up come and blame the author for trying 13:49:54 like, seriously? 14:02:22 .welcome_to_the_internet iceTwy 14:03:06 haha MK_FG 14:04:17 But I agree, most people arguing for not even trying seem to be wrong, and proven so in the long flamewar there by the other group ;) 14:06:13 well, I know for a fact that setting up your own mail server is just fucking horrible 14:06:21 it was the first thing I did when I got my first VPS 14:06:27 I think ten years ago there could've been similar article titled "how to install your own open-source os with linux" and it'd have got a crapton of haters just like this one 14:06:48 heh, probably, yes. 14:07:05 it just seems that people are comfortable with current major mail services 14:08:05 honestly I think that the trolls who're saying that setting up your own mail server does not protect you from threats you might face when using Gmail/others (i.e. account pass reset, undisclosed FBI/CIA/NSA request..) are plain stupid 14:08:10 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Added label to "Grunt Snippets"', '02Merge pull request #2848 from devatrox/masterAdded label to "Grunt Snippets"' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/dbef39aa71...3da1782682) 14:08:31 sure it's not like your own mail server is going to be secure against an adversary such as the NSA 14:08:49 but at least you get to keep your data and you don't have to share it with Google or whatever 14:09:04 that's still a major bonus and haters don't seem to realize that 14:12:42 Yeah, probably 14:14:09 Still not sure it's worth the effort to replace my gmail address everywhere it's used with a proper one 14:14:48 yeah 14:15:14 well I've got my own mail server, though I don't use it for important stuff 14:15:37 Why not? 14:15:38 even though my host is fantastic I can't be sure that it's not going to be up 24/7 14:15:43 unlike, well, Google 14:15:51 Have an mx on a second vps 14:15:57 duh 14:16:09 then bis repetitia 14:16:19 problems could happen with the 2nd host too 14:16:20 and a 3rd one 14:16:22 and a 4th one 14:16:36 Does it seem likely to you? ;) 14:16:47 4 hosts down at the same time 14:17:00 With different providers 14:17:02 totally 14:17:17 :D 14:17:24 Even so 14:17:37 smtps will keep trying for a like 3 days, iirc 14:17:42 well, my point is that I still don't fully trust my implementation 14:17:52 So even with all 4 down, you get a lot of time to do anything 14:17:59 I'll always reason in a "what if that happens" manner 14:17:59 :P 14:18:15 Yeah, and of course, google will never loose anything 14:18:27 indeed 14:18:40 I meant it sarcastically ;) 14:18:48 well I didn't :P 14:18:55 It looses my shit all the time via its "spam" folder 14:19:07 ah, well, then check your Spam folder more often :P 14:19:29 but seriously, Google is just reliable because of its infrastructure 14:19:45 Like, you have a notification about payment bouncing that you really should pay attention to, and yep - gmail takes that particular one into spam, unlike all other msgs from the same place ;) 14:19:51 I mean who the hell has 123034592459934 datacenters w/ bleeding-edge tech all around the world, besides Google 14:20:01 It's still one SPOF 14:20:08 yeah.. 14:20:12 Called google, it's not your datacenters 14:20:14 though that's the risk with any spam filter around 14:20:38 I'm using dspam on my mail server, and I'm currently training it. what tells me it won't, at some point, eat some of my mail 14:20:51 It doesn't need to loose anything 14:20:52 there's no 100% accurate spam detection software 14:21:08 Just put anything it marks into "Spam" too, easy 14:21:11 oh, are you talking about the fact that Google deletes spam after like 30 days? 14:21:22 And with SPOF I meant a lot of failure scenarios google has 14:22:34 yeah 14:22:50 Don't think I caught it deleting something useful to me from Spam, just delaying it 14:23:07 the ideal implementation if you're looking for reliability (not talking about matters such as spam) would be 14:23:10 Should probably disable that thing one day, but then maybe disabling google is still easier ;) 14:23:39 have a bunch of different VPS that will mirror your Gmail account (i.e. download mail from Gmail) 14:23:59 Yeah, I use getmail to get into same proper account I have 14:23:59 and then if Gmail happens to fail, one VPS should become the main mail server 14:24:24 then again that would imply not having a @gmail.com address 14:25:15 btw MK_FG, I surely DON'T want to have everything I receive in the same mail box 14:25:21 :P 14:26:02 Well, I just have long list of sieve rules to stuff it all into proper folders 14:26:20 Oh, and crapton of aliases 14:26:52 Like "reg.mozilla.WTsXC: me" for every registration on every site 14:27:22 ("reg.mozilla.WTsXC: /dev/null" should they start spamming) 14:27:54 So in a way, it seem to work as multiple mailboxes 14:28:11 hm 14:28:17 the only sieve rule I have is for dspam 14:28:47 if it detects a dspam header that confirms the email is a spam, it redirects that mail to the Spam folder 14:29:10 Mine is 370 lines and uses exec-filters (script with awk) to decide on where to put stuff! :P 14:29:12 (i.e. X-DSPAM-Result: Spam) 14:29:19 yes, but you're crazy 14:29:20 :D 14:29:26 Sure why not 14:29:40 is it because you're Russian 14:29:42 IS IT?!? 14:30:22 spam "rule" - http://bpaste.net/raw/180450/ 14:30:44 I fear the worst 14:31:00 oh, right 14:33:19 btw MK_FG, don't you love backups? 14:33:31 Probably 14:33:53 rightio 14:34:03 What's a simple way to do a regular backup of my VPS's? 14:34:11 rsync --link-dest 14:34:15 I'm not exactly sure what I'd want to backup yet, but yeah, generally 14:34:23 rsync then 14:34:25 okay 14:34:37 But of / with a list of exclusions 14:34:46 I need to really dig into that because I seriously need to start doing backups 14:34:51 Not whitelist-based 14:36:05 "Not whitelist-based" because "rsync of everything except ..." fails on the safe side, can't probably stress this enough 14:55:59 *** Stassi (Stassi__@cryto-9B07CF8C.ighost.se) has joined #crytocc 15:17:32 *** beowulf (Whyareyou@beowulf.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 15:31:49 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 15:41:25 *** iceTwy has quit (Input/output error) 16:34:01 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10develop: '02ResolveHandler implementation, including regular expressions for matching various GitHub, GitHub Gist, Imgur, Beanstalk, Trello, and generic image URLs' (https://github.com/KnightSwarm/Envoy/compare/068cb80538...6e3cbb4d2c) 17:02:19 *** Zekka (zekka@Zekka.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 17:03:13 *** qlimax (Jeneli@qlimax.php) has joined #crytocc 17:18:06 *** ph0lix has quit (Ping timeout) 17:26:55 *** jelkion has quit (User quit: Konversation terminated!) 17:28:13 *** qlimax has parted #crytocc (None) 17:42:02 *** elgim (elgim@206CF2F6.AA517E7E.DB3C1458.IP) has joined #crytocc 17:42:05 04FichteFoll made 3 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Update v.json', '02Update v.json', '02Merge pull request #2850 from unknownuser88/masterUpdate v.json' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/3da1782682...c2a859ea71) 17:49:27 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 17:52:21 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 18:18:05 *** pzuraq has quit (Ping timeout) 18:20:59 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-BAE76FBA.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 18:23:41 *** Zekka (zekka@cryto-7954C8B5.arizona.edu) has joined #crytocc 18:39:03 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 18:56:25 *** beowulf has quit (Ping timeout) 19:11:56 *** beowulf (Whyareyou@beowulf.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 19:12:46 *** Zekka (zekka@cryto-4AFAE809.arizona.edu) has joined #crytocc 19:34:05 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10develop: '02Fixes, ET builder implementation, and partial GitHub implementation' (https://github.com/KnightSwarm/Envoy/compare/6e3cbb4d2c...fe07d1488e) 19:51:29 *** beowulf has quit (Ping timeout) 19:54:31 *** beowulf (Whyareyou@beowulf.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 20:00:37 *** iceTwy has quit (User quit: WeeChat 0.4.3) 20:02:56 *** monod (~pmpf@monod.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 20:03:24 first day with no flu! :D 20:03:36 I'll only have to check before bed 20:03:45 and then it will be aaaaall day 20:03:46 yay 20:04:07 * monod back lurking on his computer 20:05:03 *** fanat1ck (fanat1ck@cryto-BABA43D2.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 20:06:25 *** fanat1ck has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 20:36:36 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 20:40:02 *** monod has quit (Ping timeout) 20:48:03 Don't think one can recover from flu in a day or two ;) 20:52:33 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 20:53:14 *** beowulf has quit (User quit: Leaving) 20:53:19 *** monod (~pmpf@monod.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 20:55:12 armahgard 20:55:27 this imgur thing is starting to get on my nerves 20:55:28 a bit 21:01:10 *** monod has quit (Ping timeout) 21:07:39 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10develop: '02Add optional deps to the Vagrant bootstrapping script (for URL preview resolving)' (https://github.com/KnightSwarm/Envoy/compare/fe07d1488e...2eb924197c) 21:10:39 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10develop: '02cut_text utility, and the rest of the GitHub resolver implementation' (https://github.com/KnightSwarm/Envoy/compare/2eb924197c...5f116a2577) 21:16:25 *** monod (~pmpf@monod.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 21:33:38 *** achus has quit (Ping timeout) 21:48:36 *** achus (achus@achus.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 21:54:09 suuuuuuuuuuch joepie91 21:57:15 *** Stassi has quit (User quit: Leaving) 22:32:15 *** Zekka (zekka@cryto-4AFAE809.arizona.edu) has joined #crytocc 22:51:24 gotta go sleep! =_= 22:51:27 *** monod has quit (User quit: night!) 22:58:47 04joepie91 made 2 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10develop: '02Add 'requests' to module dependencies', '02Imgur support' (https://github.com/KnightSwarm/Envoy/compare/5f116a2577...dc61fc756c) 23:07:08 anything important? 23:07:10 * joepie91 pops in for a sec 23:07:29 iceTwy: duplicity 23:07:48 which uses rsync, gpg and some other stuff behind the scenes 23:07:52 but lets you restore to arbitrary points in time 23:16:03 so here are the stats of the languages used for the pastes in my pastebin archive 23:16:04 http://sprunge.us/XXWM 23:16:08 it only took, what, 6 days to calculate? 23:16:08 lol 23:44:27 I'm being genuinely trolled by YouTube's API 23:44:31 lol 23:44:53 OHHHHHhh 23:44:55 RIGHT 23:45:04 ... 23:45:07 * iceTwy facepalms 23:45:12 iceTwy: ohai 23:45:20 not terribly impressed with pyimgur docs 23:45:23 or its error reporting, for that matter 23:45:28 pyimgur? 23:45:30 I'm not using it at all 23:45:35 raise Exception("blah") 23:45:35 like, wat 23:45:47 I am :) 23:46:05 okay so, I just understood why the YouTube API was shitting on me 23:46:16 the API url begins w/ www. 23:46:19 ... 23:46:23 Google, we're in fucking 2014