18:40:37 <dorotea> it's better for seo anyway 18:40:37 <dorotea> :| 18:41:06 <joepie91> dorotea; as somebody else said, "now it starts." 18:41:38 <dorotea> yeah 18:41:43 <dorotea> it's fucking concerning man 18:42:01 <dorotea> half of the "opposition" as it stands are what can optimistically be called fascists 18:42:21 <dorotea> neo-nazis if you wanna be nit-picky 18:44:01 <dorotea> this truly is the best response 18:44:03 <dorotea> .tw https://twitter.com/csoghoian/status/436997563343200256 18:44:04 <botpie91> Don't worry. The security update used to patch Apple's iOS SSL authentication flaw will be delivered to you securely via a SSL connection. (@csoghoian) 18:46:15 <joepie91> I rt'ed that already 18:46:16 <joepie91> :P 18:47:47 <dorotea> I know, I stole it from another channel 18:47:51 <dorotea> you might know the one 18:48:29 <joepie91> possibly 18:48:32 <joepie91> anyway, code tiem 18:51:26 <joepie91> recommended, btw: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/quick-tab/bdeifmcaonlafkglbdpbbhkeecjnkipo?hl=en 18:54:02 <dorotea> huh 18:54:04 <dorotea> not bad 18:54:09 <dorotea> does it handle multiple windows? 18:54:27 <dorotea> (and switching between them?) 18:58:21 <joepie91> dorotea: afaik it just lists all your tabs 18:58:25 <joepie91> in one list 18:58:30 <joepie91> I find it especially handy for closing tab mountains 18:58:41 <xz_> joepie91 18:58:42 <joepie91> right click -> close, and it's way faster and less error-prone than fucking about with middle click on tabs 18:58:59 <joepie91> xz_: hai? 18:59:18 <dorotea> I don't middle click tabs, I use the little x's or more commonly ctrl+w 18:59:29 <xz_> I queryed you it. 19:00:49 * dorotea goes and installs every fucking app and extension into chrome 19:01:09 * joepie91 watches in amusement as dorotea stares at a kernel panic 19:01:32 <dorotea> soon 19:01:34 <dorotea> not just yet 19:01:35 <dorotea> :D 19:02:46 <dorotea> NP: [Linkin Park - Waithing For The End] [A Thousand Suns] [977kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.6.0 19:03:34 <complex> guys, is there a better way to print fractions in python then by a/float(b)? 19:04:03 <complex> i think it looks a bit tedious 19:04:47 <joepie91> either use float() or just prefix with 1.0 * 19:05:32 <complex> with the first one, you mean what i said, right? 19:05:38 <complex> float(19/12) = 1 19:06:14 <joepie91> yes, I mean what you said 19:06:19 <joepie91> 1.0 * is cleaner usually 19:06:24 <complex> i see 19:06:38 <dorotea> duck duck go, aka SATAN 19:06:46 * dorotea giggles 19:06:58 <xz_> 1.0 * float(19/12) 19:07:31 <dorotea> wow ddg, aranjepack's actual page isn't even on the search results 19:07:38 * dorotea facedesk 19:08:04 <dorotea> hahaha bing fail 19:15:04 <dorotea> .title http://www.akamai.com/html/about/press/releases/2014/press_0218.html 19:15:05 <botpie91> dorotea: February 18, 2014 - Akamai Completes Acquisition of Prolexic 19:21:44 <dorotea> thank god martin luther king is almost always still relevant 19:21:51 <dorotea> .title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1VB7FN0_AI 19:21:51 <botpie91> dorotea: Martin Luther King: "Beyond Vietnam" - YouTube 19:22:08 <dorotea> change vietnam to whatever "war on X" you're concerned about 19:22:18 <dorotea> same speech, still works 19:27:32 <complex> i want to try to make my own beer sometime 19:27:41 <complex> sounds like a cool experience to have 19:28:08 <dorotea> yes! 19:28:20 <dorotea> you can buy kits which are a very easy way to get into it 19:28:41 <dorotea> another great thing is to find a local brewery and see if they do day-with-the-head-brewer stuff 19:29:00 <dorotea> you pay a bit of money and they help you through using their fancy materials, and you get the bottles afterwards 19:32:08 <complex> wow, seriously? 19:32:14 <complex> would be cool to attend 19:32:22 <complex> sounds like you are familiar with it 19:32:53 <dorotea> my roommate for 6 months was such a head brewer 19:42:44 <dorotea> heh 19:43:16 <complex> "next time im going to give you a bearhug, be BEAR aware! :D" 19:43:29 <complex> i came up with that myself 19:44:27 <dorotea> :P 19:46:21 <dorotea> hmm 19:46:39 <dorotea> I suspect if I actually read the bible I could probably be a pretty kickass christian 19:46:50 <complex> are you christian? 19:47:01 <dorotea> absolutely not 19:47:04 <complex> why waste time reading something that is just pure shit 19:47:11 <complex> oh wait i forgot the answer 19:47:16 <complex> you learn about culture and shit 19:47:37 <dorotea> That and you gain the heroic ability to beat religious people with their own book 19:48:02 <dorotea> I may get around to reading it someday, though 19:48:14 <complex> i dont think you should read it. it merely gives you the answer to "have you even read the bible?!?!? DUH" 19:48:36 <dorotea> I already get comments about that, something like "Wow, you really know the bible well for being someone who isn't Christian" "Yes, that's why I'm not Christian" 19:48:51 <dorotea> :P 19:49:05 <dorotea> my favorite question to ask is if they know about "jubilee" 19:49:18 <dorotea> because if they don't, they haven't even undertaken minimal effort to read their own book 19:49:18 <complex> i guess you are one of those richard dawkins-guys 19:49:24 <dorotea> nah 19:49:26 <dorotea> he's an asshole 19:49:49 <dorotea> I only go after religious people who go after me. 19:49:57 <complex> well, my buddy was upset debating with christians for a while. i think he read something from dawkins and the bible, but i think he concluded that it was a waste of time 19:50:22 *** Cryto042 has quit (Ping timeout) 19:50:31 <dorotea> for him, probably 19:50:48 <dorotea> many people do not find religion to be a waste of time, though :P 19:51:36 <dorotea> and in any case, there are a few things I quite like. The concept of being a "Good Steward" is extremely Christian, but I think it's a useful concept 19:52:16 <dorotea> HAHAHA oh wikipedia 19:52:28 <dorotea> "This analogy is used several times in the Old Testament or Tanakh" 19:52:40 <dorotea> yes, because the old testament and the tanakh are TOTALLY the same thing 19:53:11 <dorotea> the tanakh isn't organized differently, written in a different language, performed differently, and doesn't have an extra 7 books or anything 19:53:11 <dorotea> nope 19:53:14 <dorotea> not at all 19:53:27 * dorotea facedesks 19:54:09 <dorotea> mmm 19:54:13 <dorotea> this week will be awesome tho 19:54:18 <dorotea> we're doing hinduism <3 19:55:15 *** Moh has quit (Ping timeout) 19:55:31 <dorotea> I feel like hinduism is the quintessential example of adding `... at scale` to a religion and having it still work consistently 19:56:21 <joepie91> dorotea: hinduism is web scale 19:56:27 <dorotea> yep 19:56:37 <joepie91> hackernews is not 19:56:38 <joepie91> ::D 19:56:44 <botpie91> joepie91: look at UnrealIRCD channel forwarding module! 19:56:59 <joepie91> .... 19:57:16 <joepie91> I can't tell whether I'm psychic for planning that message for a time I'm looking at my IRC client 19:57:22 <joepie91> or whether botpie is psychic for notifying me 19:57:31 <dorotea> :> 19:58:02 <dorotea> The people I really want to meet someday are the copts 19:58:15 <dorotea> oldest existent branch of christianity 19:58:20 *** Moh (Happax@cryto-B2261126.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) has joined #crytocc 19:58:29 <dorotea> you wanna talk about esoteric shit, you can find it there 19:59:58 <complex> meh, i see now that the girl i have invited over to eat burger is just not interested 20:01:47 <complex> until now i have acted very interested, without really getting much back, but i guess i'll state that we are BUDDIES ;D instead 20:02:01 <complex> with a high five 20:02:16 <dorotea> sounds creepy 20:02:36 <complex> how can buddies sounds creepy 20:02:50 <complex> ok, but you get it wrong 20:03:41 <dorotea> you change from being "interested" to "just friends". Here, that narrative is not believed 20:04:09 <complex> like, i just want her to know that if shes not interested, then i respect that 20:04:42 <complex> like, the frame is not that i really like her, but i guess i dont like her as much as i pretend to do 20:05:29 <complex> and if she's not that much into me either, then its cool, but we can still hang out, you know 20:06:58 <dorotea> woot! 20:07:03 <dorotea> my teacher responded! 20:07:05 <dorotea> :DDDDDD 20:07:14 <complex> so you are in high school?! 20:07:18 <dorotea> no 20:07:30 <complex> then something doesnt make sense!! 20:07:57 <dorotea> why 20:08:33 <complex> because you cant be in elementary or secondary school. calling lecturers as teachers is a bit strange. unless you are not attending uni 20:08:45 <complex> so i then rather believe in the latter option 20:09:08 <dorotea> I still don't understand 20:09:23 <dorotea> your... concept of uni does not fit with the uni I am attending 20:09:33 <dorotea> we don't have lectures 20:09:41 <dorotea> or lecturers 20:09:54 <dorotea> we have professors and class participation 20:10:23 <dorotea> fuck school being a one-way road of information 20:10:48 <complex> ok, so thats the difference 20:11:11 <dorotea> professor is a symlink to teacher, imo 20:12:30 <dorotea> I won't ever take someone seriously who just lectures at you and never has any participation 20:12:47 <dorotea> If you don't learn from your students, you are not a teacher 20:13:21 <complex> i have stopped attending lecturers 20:13:23 <complex> *lectures 20:13:27 <complex> im not learning anything from it 20:13:47 <dorotea> I learn certain "facts" which are then just regurgitated onto a test 20:13:53 <dorotea> not worthwhile use of my time 20:14:26 <complex> i learn best when reading it myself. i have a very hard time memorizing things written on a blackboard or taught orally 20:14:48 * dorotea nods 20:15:01 <dorotea> I have no difficulty learning from any mode 20:15:07 <complex> mode huh 20:15:15 <dorotea> mode of learning 20:15:31 <dorotea> aural, visual, tactile, etc 20:15:33 <complex> implies you have no best way of learning? 20:15:36 <complex> ok 20:15:42 <dorotea> all are best 20:15:55 <complex> sure 20:15:59 <dorotea> I'm probably slightly better at watching 20:16:26 <dorotea> I learn tactile things that way 20:16:39 <dorotea> I watch others, and then I do it as well as they do 20:18:47 <dorotea> I wish my brakes would arrive :| 20:18:58 <dorotea> I would like brakes on my bike :D 20:19:05 <dorotea> been 1.5 weeks without them lol 20:19:45 <dorotea> whiiiiich reminds me I need to study the physics of riding a bike 20:19:50 <dorotea> if we understand that yet 20:20:10 <complex> fuck physics 20:20:19 <dorotea> nah 20:20:27 <dorotea> studying models is how I learn how things work 20:21:06 <complex> well, i like to think of that as engineering/or mech.phys 20:21:11 <dorotea> so if I can manipulate a model of how to ride a bike based on changing the center of gravity, I can learn how to not lose traction on slippery surfaces 20:21:14 <complex> which is a narrow subset of physics 20:21:45 <dorotea> I've already figured out how to move the platform of stability for a bike up onto me instead of the bike 20:22:00 <dorotea> but I'm not 100% on manipulating it for the purposes of traction maintenance 20:22:43 <dorotea> but I mostly just don't understand how forces combine 20:22:50 <dorotea> hence, I need a model :) 20:23:52 <dorotea> I did it once, tho 20:23:56 <dorotea> it was super fun 20:24:12 <dorotea> I slid my bike perpendicular to the direction of momentum 20:24:35 <dorotea> I was trying to stop for a stopsign and thought it was the best way to maximize traction 20:24:38 <dorotea> I was right :D 20:35:00 <complex> hm, im in lack of a good friend irl, someone i can trust and speak to 20:35:19 <complex> but i guess that is for pussies 20:35:28 <complex> so fuck that 20:36:44 <dorotea> lol 20:36:54 <dorotea> quality > quantity 20:37:06 <complex> definitely 20:38:38 <complex> concluded with that after having one guy over to stay with me for some months just so i could establish some friendship 20:39:00 <complex> dumbest idea ever 20:40:15 <complex> or, i have probably benefitted from it in some ways, but... 20:41:30 <complex> we ended up in agressive discussions about throwing "towelpaper" or what its called in the toilet 20:42:04 <complex> and so on. its also awkward to wake up and eat in your appartment when there is a guy sleeping two metres away from you 20:46:00 <iceTwy> right 20:46:11 <iceTwy> dorotea, joepie91: if you were using it, I'm bringing down my Electrum server 20:46:59 <complex> well, next time i meet this girl, i will just act like i fucking am. i dont want to act like a pussy anymore because i like this girl 20:47:30 <complex> if she isnt comfortable with me roaring randomly in public, then it is on her 20:52:02 <joepie91> iceTwy: :( 20:55:29 <iceTwy> joepie91: can't handle the future specs requirements 20:55:43 <iceTwy> and there are way enough Electrum nodes hosted on dedi servers w/ Tor & SSL 20:56:06 <xz_> iceTwy, it's been a long time since I saw your name. 20:58:35 <iceTwy> >kill Java on VPS 20:58:47 <iceTwy> >free 250MB RAM 20:58:48 * iceTwy approves 20:58:57 <xz_> > runs java 20:59:00 <xz_> > xz_ disapproved 20:59:10 <iceTwy> yeah no 20:59:23 <iceTwy> I don't even need it actually 20:59:29 <iceTwy> so fuckjava.jpg 20:59:37 <xz_> apt-get remove java* openjdk* -y 21:00:29 <dorotea> iceTwy:) the uh light bitcoin client? no, I've never touched anything but mainline 21:03:00 <iceTwy> yes, the light bitcoin client 21:03:34 <iceTwy> the client might be light but unfortunately, all of the TX history is stored on the nodes 21:04:02 <iceTwy> and since Bitcoin TXs are booming and there have been tons in the past, bigger servers are required nowadays to run electrum-server 21:04:52 <dorotea> yep 21:07:20 <iceTwy> btw I got myself a little treat 21:07:33 <iceTwy> went to the book store, and I bought Brave New World & 1984 21:07:51 <iceTwy> I've read the latter on my PC, though it was quite displeasant 21:08:22 <iceTwy> imo nothing can replace a printed book, would it just be the comfort of reading it provides 21:09:11 <dorotea> I find no particular issue with computer presentation formats with good typography and 22pt fonts or bigger 21:10:13 <dorotea> NP: [Wszystkie Wschody Słońca - Telewizor] [Japoński Reżyser] [208kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.6.0 21:10:55 <dorotea> or like 21:10:56 <dorotea> NP: [Queen - Fat Bottomed Girls] [Jazz] [880kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.6.0 21:18:49 <iceTwy> where's joepie91 21:18:50 <iceTwy> JOEPIE91 21:18:52 <iceTwy> NAO 21:20:57 <joepie91> ICETWY 21:21:01 <joepie91> what's on fire 21:21:15 <joepie91> IRC services? the tahoe grid? 21:21:22 <iceTwy> ALL THE THINGS 21:21:26 <iceTwy> !!1 21:21:31 <iceTwy> no, erm 21:21:45 <iceTwy> what was that post where you reviewed all of your past and current VPS hosters 21:21:51 <iceTwy> hosts* 21:21:53 <joepie91> I didn't review them 21:21:56 <joepie91> I just listed them 21:22:17 <joepie91> iceTwy: https://vpsboard.com/topic/1022-down-to-4-vps/page-2#entry51534 21:22:18 <joepie91> this one? 21:22:26 <iceTwy> ja mein freund 21:22:31 <iceTwy> danke schön 21:22:34 *** Ari has quit (Ping timeout) 21:25:06 <xz_> wait 21:25:12 <xz_> joepie91, you use servercrate? 21:25:13 <xz_> lmao 21:25:26 <joepie91> xz: as a storaeg box 21:25:27 <joepie91> er 21:25:28 <joepie91> storage box * 21:25:45 <xz_> oh god, I hate servercrate 21:25:48 <xz_> with a passion... 21:27:03 <dorotea> haha "vps enthusiast" 21:27:10 * dorotea giggles 21:28:45 <joepie91> xz_: Tahoe-LAFS is fault-redundant 21:28:59 <joepie91> er 21:29:02 <joepie91> fault-tolerant 21:29:08 <joepie91> the worst thing that can happen, is that there's a red dot in my tahoe-lafs panel 21:29:08 <joepie91> lol 21:30:51 <xz_> lol 21:31:07 <dorotea> lol 21:31:57 <iceTwy> joepie91: ze ping 21:32:09 * dorotea pings iceTwy so hard he falls out of his chair 21:32:15 <iceTwy> what's so wrong with DigitalOcean besides the fact that they send all of your -- 21:32:17 <iceTwy> HEY 21:32:18 <iceTwy> ! 21:32:21 * iceTwy gets back on his chair 21:32:25 <iceTwy> fok u m8 21:32:28 <iceTwy> rekt u 21:32:30 <dorotea> u wot m8 21:32:34 * iceTwy smash u in lad 21:32:39 <xz_> digitalocean closed my account... 21:32:42 <xz_> I had $300 credit. 21:32:44 * dorotea throws water on iceTwy 21:32:54 <iceTwy> okay 21:33:00 <xz_> they refused to serve me unless I uploaded a copy of my ID 21:33:05 <dorotea> wat 21:33:15 <dorotea> you must be terrorist or money launderer 21:33:15 <iceTwy> so what's so wrong with them besides the fact that they send all of your data to the NSA, CIA, FBI, DHS, Interpol 21:33:19 <joepie91> iceTwy: ze pong 21:33:26 <iceTwy> joepie91: ze see above 21:33:35 <joepie91> fraud detection probably 21:33:41 <dorotea> lemme just fix your statement 21:33:53 <dorotea> "What's so wrong with DO except that they're user hostile?" 21:34:28 <iceTwy> why/how are they user hostile 21:34:38 <dorotea> "the fact that they send all of your data to the NSA, CIA, FBI, DHS, Interpol" 21:34:41 <dorotea> your words 21:34:55 <dorotea> Anybody who does that is fundamentally user hostile 21:35:13 <iceTwy> well, either DO do that 21:35:23 <iceTwy> or they get forced into doing it, like any other US-based company 21:35:29 <iceTwy> server hosting company* 21:35:39 <iceTwy> and if it's not US-based, then the NSA just go and get it 21:35:41 <dorotea> that also goes for anyone who doesn't encrypt everything by default, and use least-possible-information systems 21:37:44 <iceTwy> lol who does that exactly 21:37:45 <iceTwy> name 1 host 21:37:48 <xz_> joepie91, got a second? 21:38:06 <dorotea> iceTwy:) perhaps now you see the scope of the problem we're faced with 21:38:20 <iceTwy> always have seen it 21:38:51 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-B10F1177.sub-70-197-5.myvzw.com) has joined #crytocc 21:38:59 <dorotea> well, we have a target. best get to changin' :) 21:39:43 <iceTwy> jaja 21:40:29 <dorotea> I'm still excited. Snowden docs are creating a lovely little cultural shift 21:40:59 <dorotea> we're starting to see the fruits of that, and we will continue to 21:41:45 <staticsafe> what cultural shift 21:41:57 <iceTwy> Prometeus are kinda annoying 21:42:02 <iceTwy> they've only got debian 6 images 21:42:08 <dorotea> ooooold 21:42:14 <dorotea> 7 or bust 21:42:15 <dorotea> :D 21:42:40 <joepie91> iceTwy: submit a ticket 21:42:48 <joepie91> failing that, bother Maounique 21:42:49 <joepie91> :P 21:43:09 <iceTwy> btw, where are Prometeus servers located? 21:43:13 <staticsafe> italy 21:43:22 <joepie91> italy and US afaik 21:43:33 <joepie91> though I think US might only be on their iwstack thing 21:43:34 <iceTwy> iunno about Italy tbh 21:43:48 <iceTwy> doesn't sound that great but doesn't sound too bad either 21:44:00 <joepie91> iceTwy: italy is a bit politically sketchy 21:44:14 <iceTwy> I'm aware yeah 21:44:35 <iceTwy> let's ask monod shall we 21:44:37 <iceTwy> monod: ping 21:44:52 <joepie91> iceTwy: on the other hand, prometeus guys go pretty hard on the whole freedom (of speech) thing 21:45:00 <iceTwy> orli 21:45:07 <joepie91> yeah 21:45:30 <joepie91> maounique posts most, but afaik sal agrees with him on most stuff 21:45:37 <joepie91> and posts himself occasionally 21:45:45 <joepie91> from what I've gathered, strong proponents of free speech, tor network, etc. 21:46:00 <joepie91> but I haven't looked into it -too- closely 21:46:11 <dorotea> where are the strongest data privacy laws? 21:46:21 <iceTwy> Iceland 21:46:24 <iceTwy> without a single doubt 21:47:48 <joepie91> ... in theory ... 21:47:56 <joepie91> also, is it weird that I -really- like the way soundcloud does inline comments? 21:48:04 <dorotea> :) 21:48:14 <dorotea> I didn't specify what kind of data, either 21:48:29 <dorotea> I would suspect for example that switzerland has stronger banking data privacy laws 21:49:01 <joepie91> had * 21:49:14 <dorotea> I think even now 21:49:15 <joepie91> those have apparently been on their way down for the past few years 21:49:19 <dorotea> after their agreements 21:49:34 <joepie91> luxembourg seems to be getting more popular in the banking sense 21:49:44 <joepie91> europe-wise 21:57:15 <dorotea> woop 21:57:23 <dorotea> ukraine is gonna be in the hands of the pm I bet 22:08:20 *** Moh has quit (Connection reset by peer) 22:22:08 *** complex has quit (Input/output error) 22:22:18 <monod> iceTwy, here I am 22:22:21 <monod> now 22:22:24 <monod> sry :3ù 22:22:32 <monod> seriously afk before 22:23:07 <monod> oh, italian politics 22:24:05 <monod> distrustful may be a word describing it 22:25:32 <iceTwy> no 22:25:43 <iceTwy> the italian privacy policy on data retention/protection 22:25:45 <iceTwy> what is it 22:37:46 *** iceTwy has quit (User quit: WeeChat 0.4.3) 22:39:36 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 22:47:18 *** KillaFornia (KillaForni@6DC7F20D.74619B55.147E7205.IP) has joined #crytocc 22:59:11 *** KillaFornia has quit (User quit: Page closed) 23:19:39 *** Ari (Ari@Ari.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 23:33:57 *** DrWhat has quit (User quit: ✟ ₦Ҿ₢⃝№щΐ₵ᴑᴎ⁸ ✞ ☠) 23:43:45 *** Cryto324 (Cryto324@cryto-105D9F5B.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 23:44:17 *** Cryto324 has quit (User quit: Page closed)

00:00:05 what, ZNC? 00:00:46 *** iceTwy_znc (iceTwy_znc@iceTwyznc-07274.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 00:00:55 the max playback for ZNC is 500 afaik 00:01:12 which is at least what it lets me set through the web interface 00:01:27 fair enough 00:10:01 joepie91: so if I quit a channel while I'm logged in as my ZNC client 00:10:26 it will stop logging/caring about that channel altogether? 00:10:44 iceTwy; if you part a channel, it will part you 00:10:47 if you disconnect, it will stay connected 00:10:52 and stay in the channel 00:10:58 ah ok 00:11:10 yeah I'll part from #bitcoin on freenode, no need to log that 00:12:19 seriously though, znc is quite amazing 00:13:02 let me try stickychan 00:13:10 oh right, that's effective lol 00:13:54 stickychan is invasive imo 00:14:28 i think it's useful for clients which /part all channels before it disconnects 00:14:33 like pidgin 00:15:23 but otherwise makes it unnecessarily hard to part chans 00:15:53 lysobit: that's why I'm not setting it on all chans 00:15:56 just a couple of vital ones 00:16:29 but why? there's no need, as long as you don't trust yourself to not accidentally part the channel 00:16:47 and I don't trust myself with that sort of stuff 00:16:47 as long as you trust* (double negative) 00:16:51 lol ok 00:16:52 ;) 00:17:11 it can just happen, y know 00:21:36 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-BAE76FBA.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 00:24:13 *** iceTwy_znc has quit (User quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) 00:26:26 *** iceTwy_znc (iceTwy_znc@iceTwyznc-07274.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 00:26:29 *** iceTwy has quit (User quit: WeeChat 0.4.3) 00:26:34 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 00:27:41 gotta go sleep! 00:27:45 uhm 00:28:07 no tiredness(???) but 1 am :( 00:28:09 :/* 00:28:25 *** monod has quit (User quit: cya!) 00:46:51 *** iceTwy_znc has quit (User quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) 00:47:07 *** iceTwy_znc (iceTwy_znc@iceTwyznc-07274.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 01:38:13 *** pzuraq has quit (Input/output error) 01:53:54 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-8D4BA9A4.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) has joined #crytocc 02:04:55 still there joepie91? 02:18:51 *** iceTwy has quit (User quit: WeeChat 0.4.3) 02:19:04 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 02:19:24 *** iceTwy has quit (User quit: WeeChat 0.4.3) 02:32:21 *** suller (suller@9C9B02F1.1EE4C4E7.10FAF6FD.IP) has joined #crytocc 02:50:41 *** foolex has quit (Client exited) 02:53:55 *** foolex (foolex@5D6B0912.EC145393.9A74EEF1.IP) has joined #crytocc 03:28:13 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 04:52:36 *** pzuraq has quit (Input/output error) 04:55:19 *** suller has quit (Ping timeout) 04:55:35 *** suller (suller@9C9B02F1.1EE4C4E7.10FAF6FD.IP) has joined #crytocc 05:10:16 *** slap (slap@35B13AAD.A882FB10.DE6EDE27.IP) has joined #crytocc 05:10:26 iceTwy_znc: !!!!!!!!!!!! 05:22:00 * slap slaps joepie91 around a bit with a large fishbot 05:22:09 sup 05:38:44 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-BAE76FBA.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 05:41:55 *** pzuraq has quit (Ping timeout) 05:53:21 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-BAE76FBA.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 05:58:54 iceTwy_znc, "so if I quit a channel while I'm logged in as my ZNC client" <--- there's /detach too 05:59:24 So it won't shove you into channel, but will keep buffering/logging its messages 05:59:50 *** Zekka (zekka@Zekka.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 06:14:16 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 06:20:20 * slap slaps truetravesty around a bit with a large fishbot 06:36:53 *** Ari has quit (Ping timeout) 06:58:57 *** slap has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 06:58:57 *** lysobit has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 06:58:57 *** suller has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 06:58:57 *** ElectRo` has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 06:58:57 *** MK_FG has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 06:58:57 *** stanone has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 06:58:57 *** joepie91 has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 06:58:57 *** SpaghettiCode has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 07:05:04 *** MRdjst0rm (MRdjst0rm@cryto-47D5081.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 07:06:26 *** MRdjst0rm has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 07:07:20 *** slap (slap@35B13AAD.A882FB10.DE6EDE27.IP) has joined #crytocc 07:07:20 *** lysobit (musalbas@localhost) has joined #crytocc 07:07:38 *** suller (suller@9C9B02F1.1EE4C4E7.10FAF6FD.IP) has joined #crytocc 07:07:38 *** ElectRo` (x@cryto-7A26ADAA.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 07:07:38 *** MK_FG (MK_FG@MKFG-91968.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 07:07:38 *** stanone (Grep@stanone.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 07:07:38 *** joepie91 (joepie91@5C4B2CE4.B8E60B3B.FD9B6484.IP) has joined #crytocc 07:28:05 *** slap has quit (User quit: Page closed) 07:53:04 *** suller has quit (Ping timeout) 07:53:25 *** suller (suller@9C9B02F1.1EE4C4E7.10FAF6FD.IP) has joined #crytocc 08:00:08 *** pzuraq has quit (Input/output error) 09:04:41 *** suller has quit (Ping timeout) 09:05:31 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-B10F1177.sub-70-197-5.myvzw.com) has joined #crytocc 09:56:06 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@4945DC4E.9CCF12CB.C9DD1C79.IP) has joined #crytocc 09:57:12 thanks MK_FG 10:05:07 joepie91: I'm just starting to appreciate the awesomeness of ZNC :D 10:05:20 iceTwy: yay 10:06:20 it's really great cause it enables me to have some history on ongoing discussions in a chan 10:06:30 if I join right in the middle of those said discussions 10:06:43 also I've configured weechat liek a boss 10:08:23 *** monod (~pmpf@E05D6D88.5C79ACE9.3BBEDDFA.IP) has joined #crytocc 10:08:39 hello everyone! 10:23:31 *** iceTwy_znc has quit (User quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) 10:23:46 *** iceTwy_znc (iceTwy_znc@cryto-1DD1379B.re) has joined #crytocc 10:28:16 *** zest (zest@F1987B83.AC927571.8EAF9109.IP) has joined #crytocc 10:48:40 *** iceTwy_znc has quit (User quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) 10:48:55 *** iceTwy_znc (iceTwy_znc@cryto-1DD1379B.re) has joined #crytocc 12:04:52 fucking OpenVZ, god 12:04:57 filled with fucking bugs 12:12:26 joepie91: ping 12:14:33 *** suller (suller@907275B4.B2A391AC.4E960128.IP) has joined #crytocc 12:37:52 *** crytoweb366 (crytoweb36@cryto-3E6002EF.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 12:37:56 hmn 12:37:59 hm * 12:38:19 (this is joepie91 here, but somebody reported that atheme is down and I don't want to start my entire IRC client) 12:39:43 * crytoweb366 blinks 12:40:04 right, netsplit incoming 12:40:44 good local time crytocc 12:41:32 *** monod has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 12:41:32 *** pzuraq has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 12:41:32 *** ElectRo` has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 12:41:32 *** MK_FG has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 12:41:32 *** stanone has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 12:41:32 *** joepie91 has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 12:41:32 *** crytoweb366 has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 12:41:32 *** lysobit has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 12:43:13 *** lysobit (musalbas@localhost) has joined #crytocc 12:43:13 *** crytoweb366 (crytoweb36@cryto-3E6002EF.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 12:43:13 *** monod (~pmpf@E05D6D88.5C79ACE9.3BBEDDFA.IP) has joined #crytocc 12:43:13 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-B10F1177.sub-70-197-5.myvzw.com) has joined #crytocc 12:43:13 *** ElectRo` (x@cryto-7A26ADAA.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 12:43:13 *** MK_FG (MK_FG@MKFG-91968.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 12:43:13 *** stanone (Grep@stanone.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 12:43:13 *** joepie91 (joepie91@5C4B2CE4.B8E60B3B.FD9B6484.IP) has joined #crytocc 12:43:25 *** monod has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 12:43:25 *** pzuraq has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 12:43:25 *** ElectRo` has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 12:43:25 *** MK_FG has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 12:43:25 *** stanone has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 12:43:25 *** joepie91 has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 12:43:25 *** crytoweb366 has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 12:43:25 *** lysobit has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 12:45:07 *** SpaghettiCode (pasta@code.bonanza) has joined #crytocc 12:45:07 *** lysobit (musalbas@localhost) has joined #crytocc 12:45:07 *** crytoweb366 (crytoweb36@cryto-3E6002EF.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 12:45:10 *** monod (~pmpf@E05D6D88.5C79ACE9.3BBEDDFA.IP) has joined #crytocc 12:45:10 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-B10F1177.sub-70-197-5.myvzw.com) has joined #crytocc 12:45:10 *** ElectRo` (x@cryto-7A26ADAA.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 12:45:10 *** MK_FG (MK_FG@MKFG-91968.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 12:45:10 *** stanone (Grep@stanone.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 12:45:10 *** joepie91 (joepie91@5C4B2CE4.B8E60B3B.FD9B6484.IP) has joined #crytocc 12:47:07 *** pzuraq has quit (Input/output error) 12:58:38 *** achus has quit (Ping timeout) 13:13:37 okay.. I lol'd 13:13:43 https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/21114/weirdest-way-to-produce-a-stack-overflow => 2nd answer 13:26:10 *** monod has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 13:26:10 *** ElectRo` has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 13:26:10 *** MK_FG has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 13:26:10 *** stanone has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 13:26:10 *** joepie91 has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 13:26:10 *** crytoweb366 has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 13:26:10 *** lysobit has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 13:26:10 *** SpaghettiCode has quit (haless.cryto.net nexus.cryto.net) 13:31:12 *** lysobit (musalbas@localhost) has joined #crytocc 13:31:12 *** crytoweb366 (crytoweb36@cryto-3E6002EF.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 13:31:12 *** SpaghettiCode (pasta@code.bonanza) has joined #crytocc 13:31:12 *** joepie91 (joepie91@5C4B2CE4.B8E60B3B.FD9B6484.IP) has joined #crytocc 13:31:12 *** stanone (Grep@stanone.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 13:31:12 *** MK_FG (MK_FG@MKFG-91968.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 13:31:12 *** ElectRo` (x@cryto-7A26ADAA.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 13:31:12 *** monod (~pmpf@E05D6D88.5C79ACE9.3BBEDDFA.IP) has joined #crytocc 13:33:52 alright 13:33:53 problem resolved 13:33:59 sorry for the chaos, guys 13:34:03 *** suller has quit (Ping timeout) 13:34:22 *** crytoweb366 has quit (User quit: Page closed) 13:34:34 *** suller (suller@907275B4.B2A391AC.4E960128.IP) has joined #crytocc 14:28:08 *** suller has quit (Ping timeout) 14:29:12 *** suller (suller@907275B4.B2A391AC.4E960128.IP) has joined #crytocc 14:30:59 *** Sonic has quit (Ping timeout) 14:31:17 *** Sonic (Mcloven@cryto-9F42E372.static.internode.on.net) has joined #crytocc 14:38:38 *** foolex has quit (Ping timeout) 14:40:19 *** Zekka (zekka@cryto-51547254.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #crytocc 14:41:05 *** DrWhat (Ana.Conda@DrWhat.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 14:41:10 *** iceTwy has quit (User quit: WeeChat 0.4.3) 14:41:22 joepie91 14:43:07 *** foolex (foolex@5D6B0912.EC145393.9A74EEF1.IP) has joined #crytocc 14:49:21 *** Ari (Ari@Ari.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 15:06:28 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Add varnish VCL syntax highlighting plugin', '02Merge pull request #2865 from brandonwamboldt/varnish_vclAdd varnish VCL syntax highlighting plugin' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/bc4d0cfd11...f1f6467189) 15:12:15 *** vld has quit (Ping timeout) 15:20:48 *** vld (vld@vld.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 16:01:19 *** vld has quit (Ping timeout) 16:04:48 *** vld (vld@vld.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 16:05:03 *** eggtimer (eggtimer@cryto-1996B2CE.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 16:06:25 *** eggtimer has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 16:06:36 *** zest has quit (Ping timeout) 16:12:46 *** xz_ (root@cryto-EFE2E14.privacyfoundation.ch) has joined #crytocc 16:12:49 joepie91 16:14:35 *** andred (andred@cryto-84C88BCC.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 16:16:09 *** andred has parted #crytocc () 16:25:21 *** Cryto042 (Cryto042@cryto-FF1C1464.static.zebra.lt) has joined #crytocc 16:34:37 *** Charles (Charles@Charles.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 16:34:53 .bitcoin 16:34:54 1 BTC = $586.99, 1 BTC = €426.42 16:35:55 botpie91, tell Riddler Good Day ! 16:35:55 Charles: I'll pass that on when Riddler is around. 16:46:05 *** Charles has quit (Client exited) 17:04:30 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03CSScheme on branch 10master: '02Add ST2 compatability', '02Remove useless files that somehow slipped through' (https://github.com/FichteFoll/CSScheme/compare/eddea9a548...9c2e473944) 17:05:31 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03sublime_packages on branch 10master: '02alphabetize', '02Add CSScheme' (https://github.com/FichteFoll/sublime_packages/compare/bb3342a617...e15abdbb84) 17:07:48 *** zest (zest@cryto-14DACE65.torproxy-readme-arachnide-fr-35.fr) has joined #crytocc 17:26:44 *** complex (litehode@complex.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 17:31:13 *** dorotea (dorotea@dorotea.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 17:33:27 dorotea: hello 17:36:43 complex:) hello 17:36:44 dorotea: 21 Feb 21:54Z ask dorotea what the change is that he made to the donate button 17:39:42 joepie91:) did you look at the code? >_> 17:40:05 joepie91:) I liked the bitcoin button to the getting started page, instead of having two split link regions to the same thing 17:40:24 s/liked/linked 17:40:55 ahh, like the old one then 17:40:55 :p 17:41:00 kinda 17:41:06 and I didn't look at the code, no 17:41:37 is it just me or is freenode a bit fucked up atm? 17:41:41 :P 17:41:51 seems to work fine 17:42:06 but eh "freenode" is nebulous due to multiplicity of servers 17:42:19 right 17:42:55 oooh! 17:42:57 bot attack! 17:42:58 :D 17:43:02 really? 17:43:36 Closing Link: [ip] (Sorry, server is full - try later) 17:43:51 *** suller has quit (Ping timeout) 17:44:03 * dorotea shrugs 17:44:08 least used irc network 17:44:20 I'm pretty much only there for joepie91 and #bitcoin 17:44:32 what, freenode is king 17:44:42 I like efnet more 17:44:44 I disconnected from my ZNC on freenode 17:44:49 *** suller (suller@907275B4.B2A391AC.4E960128.IP) has joined #crytocc 17:44:50 got tired of the *status PMs 17:44:52 If we're going for bottom of the barrel networks 17:44:54 lol 17:45:12 it's not like freenode is usable now anyway 17:45:20 nah 17:45:36 I wonder if its dying as bad as efnet 17:45:48 :/ 17:46:09 probably the populations will kick back up again in a couple years 17:46:13 it happened a few years ago to 17:46:32 everyone sounded the death knell of irc and then anon ops happened and everyone was like OMG IRC WTF LOL BBQ 17:47:20 but freenode is actually the most used network rigth? 17:47:50 *** suller has quit (Ping timeout) 17:47:56 I doubt it 17:48:24 idk though, "most used" isn't ever a metric I'm interested in 17:48:34 i think many people are unaware of IRC 17:48:41 how about "least number of assholes" or "best community" 17:48:51 yep 17:49:02 and they can stay unaware of irc 17:49:06 complex; afaik freenode isn't even really IRC 17:49:17 protocol incompatibility or w/e 17:49:31 *** suller (suller@907275B4.B2A391AC.4E960128.IP) has joined #crytocc 17:49:33 huh? 17:49:40 they run all the new specs 17:49:46 that doesn't make it incompatible >_> 17:49:54 joepie91: the dude in house of cards reminds me kind of like you :P 17:50:06 dorotea: there's an explanation somewhere 17:50:15 complex: ? 17:50:19 (I don't watch house of cards) 17:50:24 joepie91:) if you run across it, linkme :) 17:50:36 bah, judging from the vibrationthings, my equalizer settings don't work for all tracks... 17:50:37 what scares me is that they're still running seven 17:50:52 that's like 17:50:53 well, there is a hackerguy. maybe you should watch it, its okey. 17:50:53 horrifying 17:51:30 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 17:52:47 * dorotea searches for finnegan 17:52:52 so like 17:52:56 we're gonna get married o.o 17:52:57 OpenVZ replied to my tweet 17:52:59 I lol'd 17:53:00 https://twitter.com/iceTwy/status/437201103013564416 17:53:05 embrace domesticity and such 17:53:05 .tw 17:53:06 dorotea: Give me a link, a username, or a tweet id 17:53:14 .tw https://twitter.com/iceTwy/status/437201103013564416 17:53:14 .tw https://twitter.com/iceTwy/status/437201103013564416 17:53:14 .@_openvz_ Never, fucking, again. Never. (@iceTwy) 17:53:16 .@_openvz_ Never, fucking, again. Never. (@iceTwy) 17:53:24 ey cabron 17:53:32 and then 17:53:52 .tw https://twitter.com/_openvz_/status/437277670326288384 17:53:53 @iceTwy in case it's not your own server, please blame your hoster, not the technology. Thanks. (@_openvz_) 17:54:03 .tw https://twitter.com/iceTwy/status/437282942642311168 17:54:04 @_openvz_ Not blaming my hosterS (they're fine) but I'm blaming OpenVZ. Too many restrictions w/ containers b/c improper VTech. (@iceTwy) 17:54:14 lol 17:54:24 I GOT DA V-TECH, YO 17:54:30 lol 17:54:37 seriously I've used at least 4 hosts w/ OpenVZ 17:54:42 that probably only makes sense if you're from the midwest 17:54:43 lol 17:55:27 also I lol'd as "in case it's not your own server" 17:55:39 I would OBVIOUSLY go with OpenVZ if I was hosting my own VPS host node 17:55:45 so I could oversell like mad 17:55:51 that's what 95% hosters do 17:56:06 so hosters aren't going to complain about OpenVZ >_> 17:56:13 yes that's the benefit to openvx 17:56:14 z 17:56:21 yeah, but fuck OpenVZ 17:56:21 it's why I've only used it once 17:56:22 :P 17:56:26 *** suller has quit (Ping timeout) 17:56:35 my backup dns node is openvz on ramsomething 17:56:37 I'm moving my shit to KVM anyway 17:56:46 we only use kvm :P 17:56:52 soon bhyve, probably 17:56:55 Xen is pretty great too 17:57:00 hybrid bhyve and docker 17:57:02 I liked Xen 17:57:43 bhyve is like taking fbsd and combining it with amazing anal sex 17:57:49 you just can't lose 17:58:56 NP: [Linkin Park - When They Come For Me] [A Thousand Suns] [934kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.6.0 17:59:21 *** suller (suller@907275B4.B2A391AC.4E960128.IP) has joined #crytocc 18:01:23 sorry 18:01:25 what dorotea 18:01:28 amazing anal sex? 18:01:32 oh, bhyve 18:02:54 :3 18:03:03 man, that was great 18:03:08 I should pastebin it 18:03:22 nah 18:03:23 bash.org 18:03:29 not mine 18:04:02 really 18:04:12 well it's saved forever anyway; 18:04:16 loggy, pointer? 18:04:16 http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2014-02-22#T18-04-16 18:04:21 ^ 18:04:24 I know 18:04:36 in another hour it'll be in google 18:04:36 :P 18:04:57 :P 18:05:26 oh 18:05:32 was there a DDoS on freenode 18:05:40 everyone went wtf according to my znc playback 18:07:25 https://iceb.in/paste/Pifjh9yg#nJg/eR6nntCVctABwIiruQ71b3KrvK+8jtJFVLwG2dI= 18:08:01 so wait 18:08:14 are you telling me freenode isn't even under CloudFlare or some sort of DDoS mitigation service 18:08:17 * iceTwy facepalms 18:08:20 nope 18:08:26 * iceTwy facepalms^2 18:08:27 most old 'net services aren't 18:08:31 why would they be? 18:08:46 yes yes let's just hand over complete routing control to our shit to some upstart third party 18:08:49 because that's smart 18:09:08 because they clearly need DDoS mitigation, that's why 18:09:09 lol 18:09:14 nah 18:09:19 you just wait 18:09:24 same shit you used to do 18:10:25 oh my god lol 18:10:25 we have flatrate mbit/s on our servers, so we don't even null our addresses 18:10:27 we just wait 18:10:28 amazing paste 18:10:32 uh 18:10:36 uh uh uh 18:10:37 iceTwy 18:10:41 joepie91: 18:10:41 1. cloudflare is a HTTP proxy 18:10:43 not a ddos mitigation service 18:10:49 wat, really 18:10:50 so forget about IRC 18:10:51 yes 18:10:53 ... yes... 18:10:59 * iceTwy facepalms self 18:11:01 and 2. cloudflare is by no means the best ddos mitigation available 18:11:08 yeah, I'm aware 18:11:11 it's a bunch of modified nginx instances spread across the world doing reverse caching 18:11:18 if you're serious about mitigation, you go with something like prolexic 18:11:20 that's it 18:11:21 but it'll also cost you serious 18:11:27 ^ 18:11:32 prolexic is /the/ shit 18:11:33 ddos mitigation is expensive 18:11:35 as a general rule of thumb 18:11:45 but you will pay several limbs per month for that shit 18:11:48 yup 18:11:49 haha 18:11:53 is it difficult to make a basic ddos-program? 18:11:59 yes 18:12:04 you kidding? 18:12:18 so, most of that shit is easy to stop these days 18:12:20 complex: no such thing as a "ddos program", and this is not the kind of channel to ask for instructions for that ;) 18:12:31 holy fuck 18:12:40 Prolexic has 1.8Tbps bandwidth available?! 18:12:45 yeah 18:12:47 and if you don't understand why "ddos program" doesn't exist, you don't know enough about the topic to even -think- about doing it 18:12:54 biggest ddos to date was 800gbit, so they're fine 18:13:09 though NTP servers owners need to fix their shit really 18:13:12 that fucked up europe's routing 18:13:17 iceTwy:) whatever 18:13:25 iceTwy:) we said the same thing for 15 years about dns 18:13:30 joepie91: eh, should i differ between script and program? 18:13:31 yeah 18:13:49 iceTwy: it's worth pointing out that MONLIST was a fucking retarded idea 18:13:59 iceTwy:) now that dns is finally locked down just a hair, there's a new thing to exploit :P 18:14:01 complex: that's not what I was refering to, and you failed the competency test :) 18:14:22 yeah, im not qualified enough :( 18:14:31 there will always be some new thing to exploit, heh 18:14:35 such is the nature of our system 18:14:57 joepie91: you are very good to disqualify other people, i like that about you 18:15:26 he is no gatekeeper, just a reasonably accurate recommendation engine 18:15:26 :P 18:15:35 complex: not sure if sarcasm or not :P 18:15:44 dorotea: hehe 18:15:46 * dorotea grins 18:15:58 complex: anyway, read into what "DDoS" is 18:16:01 what it means 18:16:11 my my my 18:16:13 it will eventually occur to you why a "DDoS program" is not a thing 18:16:16 Prolexic have merged with Akamai lol 18:16:19 yep 18:16:20 iceTwy; huh? 18:16:25 usrs? 18:16:29 ye 18:16:33 * joepie91 blinks 18:16:34 oh dear 18:16:43 today 18:16:51 (yesterday) 18:16:57 .g akamai prolexic 18:16:58 joepie91: http://www.akamai.com/html/about/press/releases/2013/press_120213.html 18:17:00 hot 18:17:11 370m? 18:17:13 that's fucking all? 18:17:32 some asshole just paid 16b for a chat service and all they get is 370m? 18:17:32 "Akamai will host a conference call to discuss the acquisition of Prolexic today, December 2, 2013, at 8:45 a.m. Eastern time. The call may include forward-looking financial guidance from management. The call can be accessed through 1-800-706-7749 (or 1-617-614-3474 for international calls) using conference ID No. 19279933. " 18:17:35 what is this shit 18:17:43 isn't that basically asking for /b/ to invade your conference room 18:17:48 given that prolexic used to host scientology 18:17:52 (and perhaps still does) 18:18:16 Later in a conference call to discuss the acquisition, Leighton noted that there are other companies out there providing similar services, such as Verisign and NeuStar, but Akamai’s belief is that “Prolexic can do this better.” 18:18:16 “Some carriers provide their own pipe [for secure access,]” he continued, noting other competitors in this space, “but it’s better to have a single solution that can work across different carriers and ideally before the traffic ever gets to the carrier.” 18:18:30 yeah, the church has deep pockets 18:18:34 that's why\ 18:19:04 Prolexic, which has been around since 2003, had received nearly $52 million in venture funding, with backers including Kennet Partners, Camden Partners, Intel Capital, Trident Capital and Medina Capital. It counts among its existing clients “10 of the world’s largest banks and the leading companies in e-Commerce, SaaS, payment processing, travel/hospitality, gaming and other at-risk industries,” so the deal is not only bringing more tech 18:19:04 nical expertise to Akamai, but deeper, existing inroads into a particular enterprise client base. 18:19:07 that's fucking 18:19:11 a 6x payoff? 18:19:15 wat 18:19:38 makes you wonder what part of the story isn't being told 18:19:41 yeah 18:19:46 and how big that part is 18:19:48 I'm not gonna lie, that number is fucking LOW 18:19:50 joepie91: LOIC isnt a program? 18:19:57 seems like a program to me 18:19:59 complex: it's not a "DDoS program". 18:20:10 I've already given you a hint on where to start learning :) 18:20:17 like, prolexic does great work for that little amount of money and that MUCH vc funding 18:20:28 I wonder if they fucked up the starting financials, back in the day 18:20:35 dorotea: $52m is actually almost nothing funding-wise 18:20:36 and so the vc's just run the business now 18:20:37 for an org like prolexic 18:20:43 so, look at the ratio 18:20:49 that's the important part 18:20:58 yes, the ratio is insane, but I'm surprised that they ran a show on that funding -at all- 18:21:03 52m to 370m 18:21:09 if anything, that seems to show that at least they started out with sane financials 18:21:13 that's like 6x? 7x? 18:21:18 that's a very low multiplier 18:21:35 most people are looking for 20 18:21:59 dorotea: wonder what HN would say of that 18:22:50 yeah idk 18:22:57 maybe they had a thread on it? 18:23:01 * dorotea hopes so 18:23:10 one of the few times I'd actually like to have any idea what HN thinks 18:23:10 haha 18:24:02 Akamai also means “smart” in the Hawaiian language! and it is pronounced like "ACME" 18:24:03 lulz 18:24:07 back to studying! 18:24:29 :> 18:24:54 so cloudflare has as much funding as prolexic did 18:25:27 one of the few times I'd actually like to have any idea what HN thinks 18:25:27 wow 18:25:29 hehe 18:25:30 joepie91:) not a fucking drop 18:25:33 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6833949 18:25:34 my unspoken thought 18:25:47 dorotea: wow 18:25:54 so there's finally a topic that IS relevant to the demographic on HN 18:25:59 and they don't respond? 18:26:01 wtf HN, wtf 18:26:02 a dud 18:26:08 yep 18:26:18 lemme see 18:26:20 there's 7 posts 18:26:32 well, 3 18:26:35 7 ctrl+f's 18:26:44 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6833617 2 pnts, 18:26:50 1 pnt https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6833128 18:26:54 nothing, man 18:28:31 YOU HAD ONE JOB, HN, ONE JOB 18:28:53 failed it 18:29:00 and google has terrible coverage of HN 18:29:09 fortunately others archive 18:29:21 * joepie91 returns to dicking around with PHP code 18:29:26 https://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/all&q=akamai+prolexic 18:29:37 and http://hnflood.com/bytime/2013/12/2/ 18:29:41 two excellent pages 18:30:02 dorotea: it's kinda interesting how HN is basically just a data storage API, with a shitty pseudo-frontend to not make it look entirely ridiculous 18:30:07 lol 18:30:39 yeah 18:30:54 I'm envious of the people who have big db's of hn posts and such 18:31:12 It's a great source of sentiment analysis for a very particular demographic 18:34:34 man that apple ssl bug is bad 18:34:40 mitm? YES 18:35:38 dorotea: you want to know the best part? 18:36:20 probably 18:36:26 dorotea: who do you think has been accused of exaggerating/nitpicking/whatevering for the past 2 years, whenever he told somebody to "always use brackets, even for single statements, because you'll fuck it up later"? 18:36:45 :P 18:36:48 * joepie91 points at self and undoubtedly several other people who he doesn't know who have made the same argument 18:36:59 "naaah that won't happen" 18:36:59 yeah 18:37:10 WELL HERE YOU HAVE YOUR FUCKING IN-THE-WILD PROOF, NOW USE BRACKETS GODDAMNIT 18:37:12 and the fact that unreachable code warnings aren't in -Wall 18:37:34 (dumb as FUCK) 18:37:37 dorotea: honestly, whenever I do code review, bracket-less statements are an instant reject 18:37:46 and I won't even look at the rest of the code 18:37:58 is it acceptable to single-line bracketed short code? 18:38:01 it's just... WHY would you do that 18:38:01 * dorotea does that 18:38:23 I don't care what line you put it on, as long as statements in a code block are bracketed 18:38:29 I used to write my C like html 18:38:32 my teacher loved that 18:38:37 if(blah) { something(); } on a single line is fine in some cases 18:38:40 I don't care 18:38:48 yeah, that's what I did 18:38:48 if(blah) something(); is grounds for rejection 18:39:09 if(blah) 18:39:10 something(); is grounds for rejection with an extra rant tacked on 18:39:14 and I comment inside the line if there are implicit arguments being omitted 18:39:29 /default 18:39:45 dorotea: my go-to argument has more or less become "if you don't like braces, go use python" 18:40:06 oh fuck 18:40:07 .title http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ukraine-protest-20140221,0,1284200.story 18:40:09 dorotea: Protesters seize Ukraine president's compound - chicagotribune.com 18:40:18 assholes 18:40:19 "Parliament expels Ukraine president, protesters seize his compound" 18:40:32 why don't they match the title to the 18:40:37 <dorotea> it's better for seo anyway 18:40:37 <dorotea> :| 18:41:06 <joepie91> dorotea; as somebody else said, "now it starts." 18:41:38 <dorotea> yeah 18:41:43 <dorotea> it's fucking concerning man 18:42:01 <dorotea> half of the "opposition" as it stands are what can optimistically be called fascists 18:42:21 <dorotea> neo-nazis if you wanna be nit-picky 18:44:01 <dorotea> this truly is the best response 18:44:03 <dorotea> .tw https://twitter.com/csoghoian/status/436997563343200256 18:44:04 <botpie91> Don't worry. The security update used to patch Apple's iOS SSL authentication flaw will be delivered to you securely via a SSL connection. (@csoghoian) 18:46:15 <joepie91> I rt'ed that already 18:46:16 <joepie91> :P 18:47:47 <dorotea> I know, I stole it from another channel 18:47:51 <dorotea> you might know the one 18:48:29 <joepie91> possibly 18:48:32 <joepie91> anyway, code tiem 18:51:26 <joepie91> recommended, btw: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/quick-tab/bdeifmcaonlafkglbdpbbhkeecjnkipo?hl=en 18:54:02 <dorotea> huh 18:54:04 <dorotea> not bad 18:54:09 <dorotea> does it handle multiple windows? 18:54:27 <dorotea> (and switching between them?) 18:58:21 <joepie91> dorotea: afaik it just lists all your tabs 18:58:25 <joepie91> in one list 18:58:30 <joepie91> I find it especially handy for closing tab mountains 18:58:41 <xz_> joepie91 18:58:42 <joepie91> right click -> close, and it's way faster and less error-prone than fucking about with middle click on tabs 18:58:59 <joepie91> xz_: hai? 18:59:18 <dorotea> I don't middle click tabs, I use the little x's or more commonly ctrl+w 18:59:29 <xz_> I queryed you it. 19:00:49 * dorotea goes and installs every fucking app and extension into chrome 19:01:09 * joepie91 watches in amusement as dorotea stares at a kernel panic 19:01:32 <dorotea> soon 19:01:34 <dorotea> not just yet 19:01:35 <dorotea> :D 19:02:46 <dorotea> NP: [Linkin Park - Waithing For The End] [A Thousand Suns] [977kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.6.0 19:03:34 <complex> guys, is there a better way to print fractions in python then by a/float(b)? 19:04:03 <complex> i think it looks a bit tedious 19:04:47 <joepie91> either use float() or just prefix with 1.0 * 19:05:32 <complex> with the first one, you mean what i said, right? 19:05:38 <complex> float(19/12) = 1 19:06:14 <joepie91> yes, I mean what you said 19:06:19 <joepie91> 1.0 * is cleaner usually 19:06:24 <complex> i see 19:06:38 <dorotea> duck duck go, aka SATAN 19:06:46 * dorotea giggles 19:06:58 <xz_> 1.0 * float(19/12) 19:07:31 <dorotea> wow ddg, aranjepack's actual page isn't even on the search results 19:07:38 * dorotea facedesk 19:08:04 <dorotea> hahaha bing fail 19:15:04 <dorotea> .title http://www.akamai.com/html/about/press/releases/2014/press_0218.html 19:15:05 <botpie91> dorotea: February 18, 2014 - Akamai Completes Acquisition of Prolexic 19:21:44 <dorotea> thank god martin luther king is almost always still relevant 19:21:51 <dorotea> .title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1VB7FN0_AI 19:21:51 <botpie91> dorotea: Martin Luther King: "Beyond Vietnam" - YouTube 19:22:08 <dorotea> change vietnam to whatever "war on X" you're concerned about 19:22:18 <dorotea> same speech, still works 19:27:32 <complex> i want to try to make my own beer sometime 19:27:41 <complex> sounds like a cool experience to have 19:28:08 <dorotea> yes! 19:28:20 <dorotea> you can buy kits which are a very easy way to get into it 19:28:41 <dorotea> another great thing is to find a local brewery and see if they do day-with-the-head-brewer stuff 19:29:00 <dorotea> you pay a bit of money and they help you through using their fancy materials, and you get the bottles afterwards 19:32:08 <complex> wow, seriously? 19:32:14 <complex> would be cool to attend 19:32:22 <complex> sounds like you are familiar with it 19:32:53 <dorotea> my roommate for 6 months was such a head brewer 19:42:44 <dorotea> heh 19:43:16 <complex> "next time im going to give you a bearhug, be BEAR aware! :D" 19:43:29 <complex> i came up with that myself 19:44:27 <dorotea> :P 19:46:21 <dorotea> hmm 19:46:39 <dorotea> I suspect if I actually read the bible I could probably be a pretty kickass christian 19:46:50 <complex> are you christian? 19:47:01 <dorotea> absolutely not 19:47:04 <complex> why waste time reading something that is just pure shit 19:47:11 <complex> oh wait i forgot the answer 19:47:16 <complex> you learn about culture and shit 19:47:37 <dorotea> That and you gain the heroic ability to beat religious people with their own book 19:48:02 <dorotea> I may get around to reading it someday, though 19:48:14 <complex> i dont think you should read it. it merely gives you the answer to "have you even read the bible?!?!? DUH" 19:48:36 <dorotea> I already get comments about that, something like "Wow, you really know the bible well for being someone who isn't Christian" "Yes, that's why I'm not Christian" 19:48:51 <dorotea> :P 19:49:05 <dorotea> my favorite question to ask is if they know about "jubilee" 19:49:18 <dorotea> because if they don't, they haven't even undertaken minimal effort to read their own book 19:49:18 <complex> i guess you are one of those richard dawkins-guys 19:49:24 <dorotea> nah 19:49:26 <dorotea> he's an asshole 19:49:49 <dorotea> I only go after religious people who go after me. 19:49:57 <complex> well, my buddy was upset debating with christians for a while. i think he read something from dawkins and the bible, but i think he concluded that it was a waste of time 19:50:22 *** Cryto042 has quit (Ping timeout) 19:50:31 <dorotea> for him, probably 19:50:48 <dorotea> many people do not find religion to be a waste of time, though :P 19:51:36 <dorotea> and in any case, there are a few things I quite like. The concept of being a "Good Steward" is extremely Christian, but I think it's a useful concept 19:52:16 <dorotea> HAHAHA oh wikipedia 19:52:28 <dorotea> "This analogy is used several times in the Old Testament or Tanakh" 19:52:40 <dorotea> yes, because the old testament and the tanakh are TOTALLY the same thing 19:53:11 <dorotea> the tanakh isn't organized differently, written in a different language, performed differently, and doesn't have an extra 7 books or anything 19:53:11 <dorotea> nope 19:53:14 <dorotea> not at all 19:53:27 * dorotea facedesks 19:54:09 <dorotea> mmm 19:54:13 <dorotea> this week will be awesome tho 19:54:18 <dorotea> we're doing hinduism <3 19:55:15 *** Moh has quit (Ping timeout) 19:55:31 <dorotea> I feel like hinduism is the quintessential example of adding `... at scale` to a religion and having it still work consistently 19:56:21 <joepie91> dorotea: hinduism is web scale 19:56:27 <dorotea> yep 19:56:37 <joepie91> hackernews is not 19:56:38 <joepie91> ::D 19:56:44 <botpie91> joepie91: look at UnrealIRCD channel forwarding module! 19:56:59 <joepie91> .... 19:57:16 <joepie91> I can't tell whether I'm psychic for planning that message for a time I'm looking at my IRC client 19:57:22 <joepie91> or whether botpie is psychic for notifying me 19:57:31 <dorotea> :> 19:58:02 <dorotea> The people I really want to meet someday are the copts 19:58:15 <dorotea> oldest existent branch of christianity 19:58:20 *** Moh (Happax@cryto-B2261126.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) has joined #crytocc 19:58:29 <dorotea> you wanna talk about esoteric shit, you can find it there 19:59:58 <complex> meh, i see now that the girl i have invited over to eat burger is just not interested 20:01:47 <complex> until now i have acted very interested, without really getting much back, but i guess i'll state that we are BUDDIES ;D instead 20:02:01 <complex> with a high five 20:02:16 <dorotea> sounds creepy 20:02:36 <complex> how can buddies sounds creepy 20:02:50 <complex> ok, but you get it wrong 20:03:41 <dorotea> you change from being "interested" to "just friends". Here, that narrative is not believed 20:04:09 <complex> like, i just want her to know that if shes not interested, then i respect that 20:04:42 <complex> like, the frame is not that i really like her, but i guess i dont like her as much as i pretend to do 20:05:29 <complex> and if she's not that much into me either, then its cool, but we can still hang out, you know 20:06:58 <dorotea> woot! 20:07:03 <dorotea> my teacher responded! 20:07:05 <dorotea> :DDDDDD 20:07:14 <complex> so you are in high school?! 20:07:18 <dorotea> no 20:07:30 <complex> then something doesnt make sense!! 20:07:57 <dorotea> why 20:08:33 <complex> because you cant be in elementary or secondary school. calling lecturers as teachers is a bit strange. unless you are not attending uni 20:08:45 <complex> so i then rather believe in the latter option 20:09:08 <dorotea> I still don't understand 20:09:23 <dorotea> your... concept of uni does not fit with the uni I am attending 20:09:33 <dorotea> we don't have lectures 20:09:41 <dorotea> or lecturers 20:09:54 <dorotea> we have professors and class participation 20:10:23 <dorotea> fuck school being a one-way road of information 20:10:48 <complex> ok, so thats the difference 20:11:11 <dorotea> professor is a symlink to teacher, imo 20:12:30 <dorotea> I won't ever take someone seriously who just lectures at you and never has any participation 20:12:47 <dorotea> If you don't learn from your students, you are not a teacher 20:13:21 <complex> i have stopped attending lecturers 20:13:23 <complex> *lectures 20:13:27 <complex> im not learning anything from it 20:13:47 <dorotea> I learn certain "facts" which are then just regurgitated onto a test 20:13:53 <dorotea> not worthwhile use of my time 20:14:26 <complex> i learn best when reading it myself. i have a very hard time memorizing things written on a blackboard or taught orally 20:14:48 * dorotea nods 20:15:01 <dorotea> I have no difficulty learning from any mode 20:15:07 <complex> mode huh 20:15:15 <dorotea> mode of learning 20:15:31 <dorotea> aural, visual, tactile, etc 20:15:33 <complex> implies you have no best way of learning? 20:15:36 <complex> ok 20:15:42 <dorotea> all are best 20:15:55 <complex> sure 20:15:59 <dorotea> I'm probably slightly better at watching 20:16:26 <dorotea> I learn tactile things that way 20:16:39 <dorotea> I watch others, and then I do it as well as they do 20:18:47 <dorotea> I wish my brakes would arrive :| 20:18:58 <dorotea> I would like brakes on my bike :D 20:19:05 <dorotea> been 1.5 weeks without them lol 20:19:45 <dorotea> whiiiiich reminds me I need to study the physics of riding a bike 20:19:50 <dorotea> if we understand that yet 20:20:10 <complex> fuck physics 20:20:19 <dorotea> nah 20:20:27 <dorotea> studying models is how I learn how things work 20:21:06 <complex> well, i like to think of that as engineering/or mech.phys 20:21:11 <dorotea> so if I can manipulate a model of how to ride a bike based on changing the center of gravity, I can learn how to not lose traction on slippery surfaces 20:21:14 <complex> which is a narrow subset of physics 20:21:45 <dorotea> I've already figured out how to move the platform of stability for a bike up onto me instead of the bike 20:22:00 <dorotea> but I'm not 100% on manipulating it for the purposes of traction maintenance 20:22:43 <dorotea> but I mostly just don't understand how forces combine 20:22:50 <dorotea> hence, I need a model :) 20:23:52 <dorotea> I did it once, tho 20:23:56 <dorotea> it was super fun 20:24:12 <dorotea> I slid my bike perpendicular to the direction of momentum 20:24:35 <dorotea> I was trying to stop for a stopsign and thought it was the best way to maximize traction 20:24:38 <dorotea> I was right :D 20:35:00 <complex> hm, im in lack of a good friend irl, someone i can trust and speak to 20:35:19 <complex> but i guess that is for pussies 20:35:28 <complex> so fuck that 20:36:44 <dorotea> lol 20:36:54 <dorotea> quality > quantity 20:37:06 <complex> definitely 20:38:38 <complex> concluded with that after having one guy over to stay with me for some months just so i could establish some friendship 20:39:00 <complex> dumbest idea ever 20:40:15 <complex> or, i have probably benefitted from it in some ways, but... 20:41:30 <complex> we ended up in agressive discussions about throwing "towelpaper" or what its called in the toilet 20:42:04 <complex> and so on. its also awkward to wake up and eat in your appartment when there is a guy sleeping two metres away from you 20:46:00 <iceTwy> right 20:46:11 <iceTwy> dorotea, joepie91: if you were using it, I'm bringing down my Electrum server 20:46:59 <complex> well, next time i meet this girl, i will just act like i fucking am. i dont want to act like a pussy anymore because i like this girl 20:47:30 <complex> if she isnt comfortable with me roaring randomly in public, then it is on her 20:52:02 <joepie91> iceTwy: :( 20:55:29 <iceTwy> joepie91: can't handle the future specs requirements 20:55:43 <iceTwy> and there are way enough Electrum nodes hosted on dedi servers w/ Tor & SSL 20:56:06 <xz_> iceTwy, it's been a long time since I saw your name. 20:58:35 <iceTwy> >kill Java on VPS 20:58:47 <iceTwy> >free 250MB RAM 20:58:48 * iceTwy approves 20:58:57 <xz_> > runs java 20:59:00 <xz_> > xz_ disapproved 20:59:10 <iceTwy> yeah no 20:59:23 <iceTwy> I don't even need it actually 20:59:29 <iceTwy> so fuckjava.jpg 20:59:37 <xz_> apt-get remove java* openjdk* -y 21:00:29 <dorotea> iceTwy:) the uh light bitcoin client? no, I've never touched anything but mainline 21:03:00 <iceTwy> yes, the light bitcoin client 21:03:34 <iceTwy> the client might be light but unfortunately, all of the TX history is stored on the nodes 21:04:02 <iceTwy> and since Bitcoin TXs are booming and there have been tons in the past, bigger servers are required nowadays to run electrum-server 21:04:52 <dorotea> yep 21:07:20 <iceTwy> btw I got myself a little treat 21:07:33 <iceTwy> went to the book store, and I bought Brave New World & 1984 21:07:51 <iceTwy> I've read the latter on my PC, though it was quite displeasant 21:08:22 <iceTwy> imo nothing can replace a printed book, would it just be the comfort of reading it provides 21:09:11 <dorotea> I find no particular issue with computer presentation formats with good typography and 22pt fonts or bigger 21:10:13 <dorotea> NP: [Wszystkie Wschody Słońca - Telewizor] [Japoński Reżyser] [208kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.6.0 21:10:55 <dorotea> or like 21:10:56 <dorotea> NP: [Queen - Fat Bottomed Girls] [Jazz] [880kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.6.0 21:18:49 <iceTwy> where's joepie91 21:18:50 <iceTwy> JOEPIE91 21:18:52 <iceTwy> NAO 21:20:57 <joepie91> ICETWY 21:21:01 <joepie91> what's on fire 21:21:15 <joepie91> IRC services? the tahoe grid? 21:21:22 <iceTwy> ALL THE THINGS 21:21:26 <iceTwy> !!1 21:21:31 <iceTwy> no, erm 21:21:45 <iceTwy> what was that post where you reviewed all of your past and current VPS hosters 21:21:51 <iceTwy> hosts* 21:21:53 <joepie91> I didn't review them 21:21:56 <joepie91> I just listed them 21:22:17 <joepie91> iceTwy: https://vpsboard.com/topic/1022-down-to-4-vps/page-2#entry51534 21:22:18 <joepie91> this one? 21:22:26 <iceTwy> ja mein freund 21:22:31 <iceTwy> danke schön 21:22:34 *** Ari has quit (Ping timeout) 21:25:06 <xz_> wait 21:25:12 <xz_> joepie91, you use servercrate? 21:25:13 <xz_> lmao 21:25:26 <joepie91> xz: as a storaeg box 21:25:27 <joepie91> er 21:25:28 <joepie91> storage box * 21:25:45 <xz_> oh god, I hate servercrate 21:25:48 <xz_> with a passion... 21:27:03 <dorotea> haha "vps enthusiast" 21:27:10 * dorotea giggles 21:28:45 <joepie91> xz_: Tahoe-LAFS is fault-redundant 21:28:59 <joepie91> er 21:29:02 <joepie91> fault-tolerant 21:29:08 <joepie91> the worst thing that can happen, is that there's a red dot in my tahoe-lafs panel 21:29:08 <joepie91> lol 21:30:51 <xz_> lol 21:31:07 <dorotea> lol 21:31:57 <iceTwy> joepie91: ze ping 21:32:09 * dorotea pings iceTwy so hard he falls out of his chair 21:32:15 <iceTwy> what's so wrong with DigitalOcean besides the fact that they send all of your -- 21:32:17 <iceTwy> HEY 21:32:18 <iceTwy> ! 21:32:21 * iceTwy gets back on his chair 21:32:25 <iceTwy> fok u m8 21:32:28 <iceTwy> rekt u 21:32:30 <dorotea> u wot m8 21:32:34 * iceTwy smash u in lad 21:32:39 <xz_> digitalocean closed my account... 21:32:42 <xz_> I had $300 credit. 21:32:44 * dorotea throws water on iceTwy 21:32:54 <iceTwy> okay 21:33:00 <xz_> they refused to serve me unless I uploaded a copy of my ID 21:33:05 <dorotea> wat 21:33:15 <dorotea> you must be terrorist or money launderer 21:33:15 <iceTwy> so what's so wrong with them besides the fact that they send all of your data to the NSA, CIA, FBI, DHS, Interpol 21:33:19 <joepie91> iceTwy: ze pong 21:33:26 <iceTwy> joepie91: ze see above 21:33:35 <joepie91> fraud detection probably 21:33:41 <dorotea> lemme just fix your statement 21:33:53 <dorotea> "What's so wrong with DO except that they're user hostile?" 21:34:28 <iceTwy> why/how are they user hostile 21:34:38 <dorotea> "the fact that they send all of your data to the NSA, CIA, FBI, DHS, Interpol" 21:34:41 <dorotea> your words 21:34:55 <dorotea> Anybody who does that is fundamentally user hostile 21:35:13 <iceTwy> well, either DO do that 21:35:23 <iceTwy> or they get forced into doing it, like any other US-based company 21:35:29 <iceTwy> server hosting company* 21:35:39 <iceTwy> and if it's not US-based, then the NSA just go and get it 21:35:41 <dorotea> that also goes for anyone who doesn't encrypt everything by default, and use least-possible-information systems 21:37:44 <iceTwy> lol who does that exactly 21:37:45 <iceTwy> name 1 host 21:37:48 <xz_> joepie91, got a second? 21:38:06 <dorotea> iceTwy:) perhaps now you see the scope of the problem we're faced with 21:38:20 <iceTwy> always have seen it 21:38:51 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-B10F1177.sub-70-197-5.myvzw.com) has joined #crytocc 21:38:59 <dorotea> well, we have a target. best get to changin' :) 21:39:43 <iceTwy> jaja 21:40:29 <dorotea> I'm still excited. Snowden docs are creating a lovely little cultural shift 21:40:59 <dorotea> we're starting to see the fruits of that, and we will continue to 21:41:45 <staticsafe> what cultural shift 21:41:57 <iceTwy> Prometeus are kinda annoying 21:42:02 <iceTwy> they've only got debian 6 images 21:42:08 <dorotea> ooooold 21:42:14 <dorotea> 7 or bust 21:42:15 <dorotea> :D 21:42:40 <joepie91> iceTwy: submit a ticket 21:42:48 <joepie91> failing that, bother Maounique 21:42:49 <joepie91> :P 21:43:09 <iceTwy> btw, where are Prometeus servers located? 21:43:13 <staticsafe> italy 21:43:22 <joepie91> italy and US afaik 21:43:33 <joepie91> though I think US might only be on their iwstack thing 21:43:34 <iceTwy> iunno about Italy tbh 21:43:48 <iceTwy> doesn't sound that great but doesn't sound too bad either 21:44:00 <joepie91> iceTwy: italy is a bit politically sketchy 21:44:14 <iceTwy> I'm aware yeah 21:44:35 <iceTwy> let's ask monod shall we 21:44:37 <iceTwy> monod: ping 21:44:52 <joepie91> iceTwy: on the other hand, prometeus guys go pretty hard on the whole freedom (of speech) thing 21:45:00 <iceTwy> orli 21:45:07 <joepie91> yeah 21:45:30 <joepie91> maounique posts most, but afaik sal agrees with him on most stuff 21:45:37 <joepie91> and posts himself occasionally 21:45:45 <joepie91> from what I've gathered, strong proponents of free speech, tor network, etc. 21:46:00 <joepie91> but I haven't looked into it -too- closely 21:46:11 <dorotea> where are the strongest data privacy laws? 21:46:21 <iceTwy> Iceland 21:46:24 <iceTwy> without a single doubt 21:47:48 <joepie91> ... in theory ... 21:47:56 <joepie91> also, is it weird that I -really- like the way soundcloud does inline comments? 21:48:04 <dorotea> :) 21:48:14 <dorotea> I didn't specify what kind of data, either 21:48:29 <dorotea> I would suspect for example that switzerland has stronger banking data privacy laws 21:49:01 <joepie91> had * 21:49:14 <dorotea> I think even now 21:49:15 <joepie91> those have apparently been on their way down for the past few years 21:49:19 <dorotea> after their agreements 21:49:34 <joepie91> luxembourg seems to be getting more popular in the banking sense 21:49:44 <joepie91> europe-wise 21:57:15 <dorotea> woop 21:57:23 <dorotea> ukraine is gonna be in the hands of the pm I bet 22:08:20 *** Moh has quit (Connection reset by peer) 22:22:08 *** complex has quit (Input/output error) 22:22:18 <monod> iceTwy, here I am 22:22:21 <monod> now 22:22:24 <monod> sry :3ù 22:22:32 <monod> seriously afk before 22:23:07 <monod> oh, italian politics 22:24:05 <monod> distrustful may be a word describing it 22:25:32 <iceTwy> no 22:25:43 <iceTwy> the italian privacy policy on data retention/protection 22:25:45 <iceTwy> what is it 22:37:46 *** iceTwy has quit (User quit: WeeChat 0.4.3) 22:39:36 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 22:47:18 *** KillaFornia (KillaForni@6DC7F20D.74619B55.147E7205.IP) has joined #crytocc 22:59:11 *** KillaFornia has quit (User quit: Page closed) 23:19:39 *** Ari (Ari@Ari.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 23:33:57 *** DrWhat has quit (User quit: ✟ ₦Ҿ₢⃝№щΐ₵ᴑᴎ⁸ ✞ ☠) 23:43:45 *** Cryto324 (Cryto324@cryto-105D9F5B.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 23:44:17 *** Cryto324 has quit (User quit: Page closed)