00:10:18 <joepie91> iceTwy: le XMPP
00:10:45 <dorotea> lol joepie91 
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00:39:49 <joepie91> dorotea: le xmpp also
00:40:03 <xz_> exploit.im is gone...
00:41:12 <monod> seems like my date is going to narrow down to... tuesday!
00:41:24 <monod> which legally means tomorrow
00:41:38 <monod> :3)
00:45:39 <joepie91> xz_: huh, really?
00:46:20 <joepie91> monod: date?
00:46:33 <monod> joepie91, yeah :3)
00:46:56 <monod> but, since she's a lot older than me, nothing is going to happen imo :/ :(
00:47:03 <monod> but, yeah, a date :D
00:47:10 <monod> still a date
00:47:12 <joepie91> oh, THAT kind of date
00:47:15 <joepie91> I was thinking calendar date
00:47:16 <joepie91> haha
00:47:18 <joepie91> sorry, tired :P
00:47:20 <monod> lulz
00:47:32 <joepie91> and don't rule anything out
00:47:59 <monod> to me? joepie91 
00:48:09 <joepie91> yes :P
00:48:24 <monod> "rule something out" == make plans and predictions?
00:48:34 <joepie91> no, I mean as in
00:48:38 <joepie91> when you say <monod>but, since she's a lot older than me, nothing is going to happen imo :/ :(
00:48:42 <joepie91> you're ruling things out
00:48:49 <joepie91> you're already deciding that they're not an option
00:49:01 <joepie91> you shouldn't do that, usually - you never know what's going to happen :)
00:49:29 <monod> yeah, hopefully! so the mystery goes on til tuesday!
00:49:37 <monod> ruling things out, then.
00:50:05 * monod "knows" the importance of phrasal verbs and tries and puts attention to them.
00:50:12 <monod> put*
00:50:18 <monod> back to studying
00:50:33 <joepie91> monod: good luck, /me will go to sleep
00:50:55 <monod> thankya! G'Night!
00:57:20 <iceTwy> monod: wtf nothing's going to happen
00:57:35 <iceTwy> stuff is going to happen, and you know it
00:57:43 <monod> hehe
00:57:50 <iceTwy> pwn dat god damn date already ;)
00:57:54 <joepie91> lol
00:57:59 <monod> ehm, yeah, I'd know it, but listen to this:
00:58:01 <joepie91> that is a more direct way to put it
00:58:04 <joepie91> :P
00:58:09 <iceTwy> she
00:58:10 <iceTwy> wants
00:58:12 <iceTwy> the
00:58:14 <iceTwy> DDDDDDDDD
00:58:18 <iceTwy> 8========D
00:58:27 <monod> she's.... (apart from beautiful, it seems) 8 years older than me :D O_O
00:58:38 <monod> lulz
00:58:40 <iceTwy> well
00:58:43 <iceTwy> that's not /enormous/
00:58:48 <iceTwy> a fair bit but w/e
00:58:55 <monod> and I'm not even scared 
00:59:03 <iceTwy> yeah
00:59:12 <monod> the point is just that she may be looking for stability
00:59:16 <monod> even if she's studying atm
00:59:18 <monod> just like me
00:59:23 <monod> :D
00:59:39 <monod> and yeah, I supposed that
00:59:39 <monod> she
00:59:41 <monod> wants
00:59:42 <monod> the
00:59:43 <monod> lol
00:59:55 <monod> DDDDDDDDD 8========D
01:00:09 <iceTwy> :D
01:00:21 <monod> just let's see
01:00:23 <monod> :3
01:02:49 <iceTwy> ;)
01:02:56 <iceTwy> be self-confident and have a great time
01:02:58 <iceTwy> that's about it
01:03:04 <monod> uh
01:40:05 <monod> 11 pages in 2 days, soooo good
01:40:10 <monod> 7 today
01:40:50 <monod> tomorrow last day before the exam and I'm not finished yet, so I'm probably going to retry it :/ but, at least, I've studied a lot for this one
01:40:54 <monod> this will help in the future
01:41:08 <monod> I hope to jump back on the right rails
01:41:10 <monod> soon
01:41:13 <monod> very zoon.
01:41:17 <monod> cya! night!
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02:50:43 <iceTwy> .ping
02:50:43 <botpie91> Ping failed. Are you sure you specified a valid hostname or IP?
02:50:49 <iceTwy> .ping icetwy.re
02:50:51 <botpie91> Response times: 118ms, 118ms, 118ms, 118ms
02:50:53 <botpie91> Statistics: min 118.687, avg 118.793, max 118.991, mdev 0.439, packet loss 0%
02:51:03 <iceTwy> .ping blog.icetwy.re
02:51:05 <botpie91> Response times: 118ms, 118ms, 120ms, 118ms
02:51:06 <botpie91> Statistics: min 118.701, avg 119.139, max 120.347, mdev 0.739, packet loss 0%
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10:07:40 <monod> hello
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12:21:32 <iceTwy> then again
12:21:36 <iceTwy> rsync <3
12:25:19 <monod> remote backupping? :D
12:28:16 <iceTwy> yup
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12:50:58 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 3 commit(s) to 03CSScheme on branch 10master: '02Remove `$` from the SCSS word separator list', '02Add some useful linkgs to the readmeRegarding HCL and color scales.', '02Update changelog for v0.1.1' (https://github.com/FichteFoll/CSScheme/compare/9c2e473944...4597b763e6)
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13:27:18 <iceTwy> mail server migration, check
13:27:32 <iceTwy> icetwy.re/blog.icetwy.re/iceb.in migration, check
13:38:44 <joepie91> http://maidsafe.net/
13:38:45 <joepie91> cc iceTwy
13:38:47 <joepie91> this is very bad newws
13:38:49 <joepie91> news *
13:39:04 <joepie91> if you read between the lines, it's a giant attempt at commercial vendor lock-in
13:39:10 <joepie91> except pretending to be something "awesome and decentralized"
13:39:42 <joepie91> "let's rebuild the internet on GPL software and if you want to not release your application code as GPL you must pay us 1% of your revenue"
13:39:44 <joepie91> seriously, what the fuck
13:48:53 <iceTwy> good idea, but I lol'd at that point
13:49:13 <iceTwy> there are tons of decentralized networks, this is just another of them
13:49:17 <iceTwy> another one*
13:51:01 <iceTwy> also, wtf iceb.in
13:53:31 <iceTwy> no socket could be created
13:53:33 <iceTwy> orli
13:54:54 <iceTwy> yup, needs to wait a bit before it's launched
14:04:37 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Add ASP Snippets', '02Merge pull request #2871 from marcosisocram/masterAdd ASP Snippets' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/9b7072355a...8e997c97df)
14:23:18 <iceTwy> joepie91: ping
14:34:07 <joepie91> iceTwy, pong
14:34:14 <iceTwy> hola
14:34:19 <iceTwy> reauthorize me on XMPP
14:34:34 <iceTwy> the migration for Prosody is done so yeah
14:35:01 <joepie91> ...
14:35:09 <joepie91> iceTwy: you didn't backup your prosody db?
14:35:14 <iceTwy> I did
14:35:25 <iceTwy> but you're either offline
14:35:31 <iceTwy> or you need to reauthorize me
14:35:42 <iceTwy> that's what Pidgin's telling me I believe
14:35:44 <joepie91> you show as online here...
14:36:00 <iceTwy> sec
14:36:10 <iceTwy> offline now?
14:36:21 <joepie91> still showing online
14:36:51 <iceTwy> okay so it seems your client has picked up the new IP
14:37:03 <iceTwy> send me a message?
14:37:56 <joepie91> I already did twice
14:37:57 <joepie91> lol
14:37:59 <iceTwy> er
14:38:01 <joepie91> and just saw you change your name
14:38:22 <iceTwy> lol oh god
14:38:28 <iceTwy> sec, lemme reconnect. you're offline for me
14:39:31 <iceTwy> did you receive my message?
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15:42:20 <dorotea> fucking
15:42:31 <dorotea> such pander, wow. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/23/spy-chief-we-can-t-stop-another-snowden.html
15:49:55 <joepie91> .w pander
15:49:56 <botpie91> pander — noun: 1. A person who furthers the illicit love-affairs of others; a pimp or procurer, especially when male. (Later panderer.), 2. An offer of illicit sex with a third party — verb: 1. (intr.) To offer illicit sex with a third party; to pimp, 2. (intr.) To tempt with, to appeal or [...]
15:50:19 <joepie91> dorotea: at least he's honest about it lol
15:51:26 <dorotea> right?
15:51:41 <dorotea> those definitions are not pandering
15:51:43 <dorotea> but uh
15:51:47 <dorotea> still nails it
15:51:48 <dorotea> lol
15:52:36 <dorotea> if he exuded love for clapper any more he'd be asking for his hand in marriage and proclaiming his unrequited love on Fox News nightly
15:53:22 <dorotea> I don't envy the position clapper is in, but jeez. he IS the fall guy here. Let's not be confused about it
15:54:10 <iceTwy> d-d-dorotea
15:54:12 <iceTwy> ER IST ALIVE
15:54:32 <dorotea> YES
15:54:38 <iceTwy> WUNDERBAR MEIN FREUND
15:54:42 <dorotea> sorry, had to downgrade my OS last night
15:54:50 <iceTwy> to?
15:54:53 <dorotea> jessie
15:55:04 <iceTwy> are you really using Debian as a desktop OS
15:55:10 <dorotea> yes?
15:55:14 <iceTwy> hmm :|
15:55:19 <dorotea> I was running hybrid stable/testing/unstable
15:55:23 <dorotea> it was exciting
15:55:25 <iceTwy> I mean I'm not against it, right, because Debian's cool and I love it
15:55:27 <dorotea> perhaps a little too exciting
15:55:35 <iceTwy> so exciting that it broke your system
15:55:43 <dorotea> yep :D
15:55:44 * iceTwy clappity clap dat system
15:55:56 <iceTwy> though you miss on a lot of fancy updates with Debian
15:55:57 <dorotea> new kernel which is incompatible with installed nvidia drivers
15:55:59 <dorotea> <3
15:56:01 <iceTwy> oh lol
15:56:03 <iceTwy> nvidia drivers
15:56:05 <iceTwy> haha
15:56:31 <dorotea> so, jessie it is
15:56:32 <dorotea> :>
15:57:06 <iceTwy> jessie is like, er
15:57:08 <iceTwy> testing
15:57:11 <iceTwy> right?
15:57:37 <dorotea> yes
15:57:51 <dorotea> for the most part I get new software
15:57:53 <dorotea> :)
15:57:53 <iceTwy> yeah, I liked testing. I used wheezy back then, when it was still in testing
15:57:55 <iceTwy> you do yeah
15:58:13 <dorotea> esr iceweasel is the only real compromise
15:58:20 <iceTwy> seriously though
15:58:22 <dorotea> and I don't care about that soooo
15:58:23 <iceTwy> fucking Arch
15:58:26 <iceTwy> <3333333333333333333333333333333333"
15:58:28 <iceTwy> I love Arch
15:58:48 <dorotea> arch is an os where /I/ ask "you're really using that as a desktop os?"
15:58:54 <dorotea> cause it's only a server os for me
15:58:55 <iceTwy> yes I am
15:58:58 <iceTwy> well
15:59:09 <dorotea> we used to build clusters with it
15:59:10 <dorotea> lol
15:59:32 <iceTwy> you've got an community-contributed user repo that prepares and updates nearly EVERY SOFTWARE you could think of
15:59:37 <iceTwy> and I'm not even kidding
15:59:48 <dorotea> delicious clusters built in plywood boxes
15:59:52 <iceTwy> if you do want something that's not in the main Arch repo, get it on the AUR
15:59:58 <iceTwy> pacman is amazing, too
16:00:03 <dorotea> with box fans at each end and slot-mounting for motherboards
16:00:12 <iceTwy> hm
16:00:43 <dorotea> ghetto as fuck compute clusters :>
16:00:48 <iceTwy> joepie91: lol'd at that @PHP_CEO RT
16:01:15 <dorotea> wow
16:01:20 <dorotea> that's fucking accurate
16:01:28 <iceTwy> LOOOOOOL
16:01:56 <iceTwy> easily the best tweet I've seen in a while
16:02:00 <iceTwy> .tw https://twitter.com/PHP_CEO/status/436565230060339200
16:02:00 <botpie91> DEV SAYS MY CODE IS “LIKE SOMEONE TRIED TO INVENT A LISP DIALECT WITHOUT KNOWING LISP IS A PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE AND NOT A SPEECH DISORDER” (@PHP_CEO)
16:02:25 <dorotea> lmaoooo
16:04:07 <dorotea> oh cool
16:04:14 <dorotea> net neutrality just got shot in the face
16:04:20 <dorotea> good thing I don't watch netflix
16:04:26 <joepie91> some inaccuracy here, but http://irdial.com/blogdial/?p=3666
16:04:34 <joepie91> iceTwy: :P
16:04:37 <joepie91> dorotea: wut?
16:04:56 <dorotea> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/02/23/comcasts-deal-with-netflix-makes-network-neutrality-obsolete/
16:05:24 <joepie91> For the past two decades, the Internet has operated as an unregulated, competitive free market.
16:05:25 <joepie91> uh
16:05:32 <joepie91> no, no it hasn't
16:06:01 <joepie91> but yeah
16:06:06 <joepie91> guess that it finally happened then
16:06:38 <iceTwy> what
16:06:49 <iceTwy> the Internet has operated as an unregulated, competitive free market
16:06:52 * iceTwy facepalms
16:06:58 <iceTwy> journalists shouldn't write shit
16:07:02 <iceTwy> but they do
16:07:46 <dorotea> I don't disagree with his statement
16:07:55 <dorotea> peering agreements really haven't been regulated
16:08:27 <joepie91> dorotea: that's a very far call from "the internet has operated as an unregulated competitive free market"
16:08:28 <dorotea> (if you read the rest of the article, that IS what he's talking about)
16:08:34 <joepie91> which is absolutely and provably false
16:08:49 <dorotea> within the context he's speaking, he's right
16:08:56 <joepie91> ... no
16:09:02 <joepie91> he's still making a blanket statement
16:09:07 <joepie91> regardless of what the rest of the article is about
16:09:09 <dorotea> not to me
16:09:23 <joepie91> I could say "everybody likes pies" in an article about people who like pies
16:09:29 <joepie91> and it'd still be an incorrect article
16:09:33 <joepie91> if that's the exact sentence
16:09:36 <dorotea> the entire article is about peering agreements, whether or not he knows it
16:09:46 <joepie91> see above
16:09:46 <dorotea> peering agreements have not been regulated
16:09:52 <dorotea> no
16:10:02 <dorotea> I refuse to accept your statement because it doesn't take into account context
16:10:16 <joepie91> <joepie91>I could say "everybody likes pies" in an article about people who like pies
16:10:17 <joepie91> <joepie91>and it'd still be an incorrect article
16:10:17 <joepie91> <joepie91>if that's the exact sentence
16:10:30 <dorotea> noncomparable statements, try again
16:10:31 <iceTwy> OBJECTION SIR
16:10:32 <joepie91> the context there is people who like pies
16:10:34 <iceTwy> DOROTEA LIKES PIE
16:10:42 <joepie91> thus according to your reasoning that would make the statement correct
16:10:46 <dorotea> nope
16:10:52 <joepie91> dorotea: feel free to point out where the comparison goes awry
16:10:56 <joepie91> clearly and verbosely
16:11:06 <dorotea> If I said pies have been historically unregulated in an article about pies, I'd be accurate
16:11:24 <dorotea> (ditto on uh pie regulation, but that's closer example)
16:11:27 <joepie91> ... that doesn't tell me where you believe my comparison is inaccurate
16:12:01 <dorotea> you're mistaking circular justification for... I don't know what
16:12:19 <dorotea> you've created a tautology about the article that isn't accurate
16:12:33 <joepie91> dorotea: I have absolutely no clue what you're going on about
16:12:50 <dorotea> I can't articulate why you're wrong, I don't argue logic well
16:12:52 <joepie91> but I'll make a literal replacement
16:12:56 <joepie91> of your sentence
16:12:56 <dorotea> <joepie91>I could say "everybody likes pies" in an article about people who like pies > this is wrong
16:13:16 <joepie91> I could say "the pie market has historically been unregulated" in an article about apple pies, when in reality only apple pies have been unregulated
16:13:18 <dorotea> the article isn't about people who like peering
16:13:33 <joepie91> and that the context is apple pies does not somehow make that statement correct
16:13:50 <dorotea> no, it's like saying "apple pies have been historically unregulated" in an article about apple pie regulation
16:13:51 <joepie91> because the statement refers to "the pie market" which is a completely different thing from "the apple pie market"
16:13:53 <joepie91> regardless of context
16:13:56 <joepie91> ... no
16:13:58 <joepie91> dude
16:14:00 <dorotea> yes it is
16:14:00 <joepie91> seriously
16:14:02 <joepie91> read your own statement
16:14:03 <dorotea> it absolutely is
16:14:09 <joepie91> jesus christ dorotea
16:14:13 <joepie91> make a fucking effort to understand
16:14:20 <iceTwy> er, joepie91?
16:14:27 <joepie91> the article says "X is historically unregulated" in an article about Y
16:14:31 <dorotea> joepie91:) the scoping isn't different to me
16:14:34 <dorotea> nope
16:14:36 <dorotea> no
16:14:38 <joepie91> your comparison is "X is historically unregulated" in an article about X
16:14:41 <iceTwy> "the pie market", as an "absolute" statement, is not equal to "the applie pie market", okay
16:14:42 <joepie91> yes
16:14:43 <iceTwy> but
16:14:45 <joepie91> the internet != peering
16:14:49 <joepie91> ENTIRELY different concepts
16:14:53 <dorotea> joepie91:) yes, that is my comparison because that's what the article is
16:14:55 <joepie91> peering is only a tiny part of the internet
16:14:58 <dorotea> x = x
16:14:58 <joepie91> .........................
16:15:04 <joepie91> dorotea: ARE YOU EVEN TRYING TO READ WHAT I SAY
16:15:06 <joepie91> like seriously
16:15:07 <dorotea> yes
16:15:09 <dorotea> you're wrong
16:15:13 <dorotea> and I'm refusing to accept it
16:15:13 <joepie91> you are responding before I even finished a sentence
16:15:19 <joepie91> wtf man
16:15:25 <dorotea> because you have fundamental flaws in the comparison
16:15:39 <joepie91> dorotea: you're already determined that I'm wrong before I've even finished explaining
16:15:42 * iceTwy puts a box of popcorn in the microwave oven
16:15:42 <dorotea> yes
16:15:48 <joepie91> and you don't see a problem with that?
16:15:53 <dorotea> because your base is wrong
16:15:53 <joepie91> or are you a mindreader?
16:15:56 <joepie91> ....
16:16:10 <joepie91> dorotea: I WASN'T DONE EXPLAINING YET. YOU CANNOT KNOW WHAT MY "BASE" IS. THE CONTEXT IS NOT YET DELIVERED.
16:16:10 <dorotea> you have fundamental flaws, I don't need the elaboration of the base of the argument is wrong
16:16:21 <joepie91> you're just fucking guessing what I mean
16:16:23 <dorotea> of -> if
16:16:23 <joepie91> and responding to THAT
16:16:27 <joepie91> isntead of what I'm actually saying
16:16:34 <joepie91> which makes it fucking impossible to actually EXPLAIN anything to you
16:16:38 <joepie91> because you fucking refuse to try and understand it
16:16:46 <joepie91> and I am going to exit this discussion now
16:16:51 <joepie91> because I have a fuckton of work to do
16:17:05 <joepie91> and I am not going to waste my time on somebody unwilling to hear out an argument before jumping to defense
16:17:57 <dorotea> It's not defense, it's offense. I'm correcting a wrong base to an argument. *shrugs*
16:18:04 * dorotea goes to finish morning
16:18:06 * dorotea lol
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16:25:47 <iceTwy> okay
16:25:50 <iceTwy> what the actual fuck
16:26:31 <iceTwy> my DL speed with Iniz is less than 50Mbps for a 100mbit file from Leaseweb's NL test server?
16:41:02 <joepie91> iceTwy, xmpp
16:41:10 <joepie91> :p
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19:32:03 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 3 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02use my own channel for all packages', '02use new repo for packages.json', '02Merge pull request #2870 from randy3k/masteruse my own channel to manage all packages' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/8e997c97df...ba6a7267b2)
19:35:35 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02AngularZen plugin ( snippets zen style )', '02Merge pull request #2872 from IlanFrumer/patch-1AngularZen plugin ( snippets zen style )' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/ba6a7267b2...d2eb5e199e)
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22:12:32 <dorotea> hahahahaha they can't get my crankset off
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23:14:09 <monod> gotta go :( tomorrow will be shit for that exam
23:14:20 <monod> I'm not prepared and I'm losing a life behind it
23:14:33 <monod> I'll see what to do next tho...
23:14:42 <monod> I hope I'll soon open my eyes...
23:14:46 <monod> good night...
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23:43:02 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10develop: '02Finish MAM returning implementation' (https://github.com/KnightSwarm/Envoy/compare/cdee6c93e5...11fa12af12)
23:59:26 <dorotea> lulz