00:07:21 *** achus (achus@achus.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 00:07:43 *** x has quit (Input/output error) 00:25:28 joepie91:) huh, did you know they actually update purecss? 00:27:20 *** iceTwy_ (iceTwy@48FDC79C.9DA5D8CB.9A74EEF1.IP) has joined #crytocc 00:27:53 *** iceTwy has quit (Ping timeout) 00:33:33 *** iceTwy_ is now known as iceTwy 00:35:48 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-BAE76FBA.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 00:39:29 *** iceTwy has quit (Ping timeout) 00:43:46 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 01:10:12 *** Zekka (zekka@cryto-51547254.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #crytocc 01:44:37 *** iceTwy has quit (User quit: WeeChat 0.4.3) 01:49:20 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 02:00:08 *** Sonic (Mcloven@cryto-9F42E372.static.internode.on.net) has joined #crytocc 02:16:04 *** Alchemist (alchemist@cryto-E104D205.static.tpgi.com.au) has joined #crytocc 02:21:08 *** pzuraq has quit (Input/output error) 02:21:34 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-BAE76FBA.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 02:24:40 *** pzuraq has quit (Ping timeout) 02:25:08 joepie91:) what is your license for your css on your blog? wtfpl? 02:36:26 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-8D4BA9A4.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) has joined #crytocc 03:11:15 *** Alchemist has quit (User quit: ) 03:13:11 *** suller (suller@46CC6AE0.7AE9B1B0.4E960128.IP) has joined #crytocc 04:22:06 It's fun to go back through my old projects to see what I've written 04:22:16 fucking webcode man 04:23:16 my main project was to have a base style that I could layer functionality onto, by adding another css 04:23:28 two years later, and some refinement, it's built into my main css 04:26:33 idk lol, I fixed purecss's responsive grid system 04:34:18 How do you test responsive stuff btw? 04:35:03 Didn't look into it myself, but might need to soon due to needing to test custom NetworkManager webui for mobiles 04:35:07 ...with a browser? 04:35:47 Hmm 04:36:40 ff has great tools for it 04:37:21 I thought there's more tricky simulation needed to accurately model proper device screens, but indeed, maybe not... 04:38:19 Oh, it has the thing in F12 too 04:38:24 Neat 04:38:53 probably, but if you're building it in a web view a browser is mostly sufficient 04:39:03 (sorry on phone)\ 04:39:20 I wonder if one can simulate touchscreen (and its limitations) there somehow too... 04:40:00 Hm, yeah, finger button does that ;) 04:40:07 NOW I KNOW HOW \o/ 04:40:23 dorotea, Thanks for pointing at ff! 04:42:43 there we go 04:42:51 MK_FG:) !yes! 04:42:56 ff has amazing responsive utils 04:43:10 and the pullapart view (looks like a 3d block) is great as well 04:44:00 probably can't do good touchscreen simulation (as in, touch /interface/) without some device or another, but any asshole with a smartphone and 5 minutes can be your guinea pig for that 04:44:40 also google pagespeed insights does basic ux testing for mobile devices (checking that buttons aren't too small, for example) if you run it through that 04:45:02 I pretty much do most of my code writing halfway between sublimetext and chrome/ff devtools :) 04:45:11 MK_FG:) ^ 04:45:31 Thanks for teh tips 04:45:35 :) 04:47:07 also chrome's frame is quite thin, so you can drag the window around to see if breakpoints are in bad places 04:48:19 if I can get ff to respond... :| 04:48:23 * dorotea shoots 04:48:42 oh 04:49:23 MK_FG:) if you ctrl+shift+i in firefox, the inspector goes by what you select. so you keycombo and then click where you want as it outlines elements under your mouse 04:49:25 very nifty 04:49:42 it updates the outline based on hover 04:50:27 Hmm, shouldn't it be Ctrl+Shift+C? 04:50:39 no, I for inspect 04:50:39 That seem to be "pick a thing" hotkey I use 04:50:58 I've never used a ctrl+shift+c hotkey 04:51:42 ctrl+shift+{r,t,u,i} 04:52:01 though sometimes r and/or u don't work depending on browser 04:52:31 *** Philosoraptor has quit (Ping timeout) 04:52:53 Hmm, "I" seem to be just toggling the thing, might happen to open "inspect" tab, but if you press it after "K" (console), then it acts just like F12 04:53:23 yes 04:53:30 https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/keyboard-shortcuts-perform-firefox-tasks-quickly#w_tools seem to list it as F12 alternative 04:53:50 yes, but when it opens you can hover your mouse to select elements 04:54:34 it's just neat 04:54:34 lol 04:54:37 Well, no, that's what "C" does, not "I"! 04:54:50 not for me 04:54:54 Weird 04:54:55 C does nothing for me 04:55:00 unbound combo 04:55:05 Ctrl+Shift+C? 04:55:11 correct 04:55:19 Even weirder! 04:55:41 ctrl+shift+r is my most used, cache cleared refresh 04:55:43 Though I have pre-29 ff, maybe too old :P 04:55:51 I'm on esr 04:55:54 debian lol 04:55:58 Oh 04:56:11 (had to revert, unstable was... unstable heh) 04:56:13 Yeah, I think these keys worked differently in ye olde days 04:56:34 Stale Debian is like time capsule :P 04:56:50 turns out running hybrid testing/unstable/ubuntu latest is difficult 04:57:04 :3 04:57:28 Heh, as a debian non-user I think I've found that out on some prod servers one day ;) 04:57:46 ABI dep hell ;( 04:57:47 :3 04:58:16 +1 for ff unstable btw, 29 aurora just flat-out hangs on start for me (probably addons, but wtf...) 04:58:18 It was actually fine until I updated the kernel before nvidia was ready to ship a compatible configure script 04:58:31 yeah 04:58:56 I've had very longstanding issues with ff's stability (that had improved as of late, tbh), and I only have 4 addons 04:59:04 Actually it's addons 100%, I think it started fine with clean profile 04:59:25 abp, pdfjs, spdy indicator and twitter address bar search 04:59:44 and that last addon is the one thing that's missing from chrome 04:59:55 You're missing out on lots of great stuff then! ;) 05:00:00 why in gods name can't I type @handleOnTwitter and get their page? :| 05:00:00 Addons are awesum 05:00:10 I usually hate them 05:00:14 they noticeably slow down the browser 05:00:41 or they inject requests into the page, which is equally obnoxious 05:01:09 But still awesum 05:01:35 I'm more interested in speed than any other feature 05:01:55 I use chrome with I think zero addons 05:02:24 I think I *just* added the bitly extension to try it out 05:02:48 otherwise, I have spdy indicator (haha) and pagespeed insights (superfluous) 05:03:33 I only actually have abp in firefox because if I don't it crashes 05:03:43 I wonder if I'm not interested in speed because it's kinda always-crap for me anyways 05:03:45 apparently I'm over the average for cookies and history 05:04:01 ahh 05:04:10 what's slow? hardware or internet? 05:04:10 Due to not being USSAian, so just ping to most web stuff is 200-250ms 05:04:17 ahh 05:04:25 so you use tor every day! :D 05:04:29 * dorotea giggles 05:04:49 So once you grow up and get used to slowness, you just don't care anymoar :P 05:04:55 (that was my experience with tor. very high latency, excellent throughput) 05:05:02 * dorotea nods 05:05:23 I push everyone to run spdy or quic because it suits my need for speed 05:05:23 :3 05:05:32 also why I fight people who use jquery for everything 05:05:43 or put 7 ad networks and 22 tracking scripts 05:06:01 I'm thinking of people in .ru or anyone who qualifies as afnic 05:06:11 You're flat-out evil person if you push people to use DOM apis ;) 05:06:30 Like, a Bond villain 05:06:31 dude I ran into implementation quirks before I even had working javascript 05:06:37 I know their pain 05:06:38 With white cat and all 05:07:06 You can't even use the timing api in firefox because it's so assbackwards implemented 05:07:31 chrome of course is easy as fuck and by noncomment has refused to change to ff/IE's way of doing it 05:07:32 lol 05:08:11 (because seriously why would you not represent it as an object? I can just stringify and SHIP DAT SHIT) 05:13:34 or like t1 = performance.timing.whatever; and start my calculations 05:13:45 shit fucking simple 05:16:37 Moar jQuery wrappers then 05:19:29 *** pzuraq has quit (Input/output error) 05:19:51 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-8D4BA9A4.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) has joined #crytocc 05:23:05 *** pzuraq has quit (Ping timeout) 05:26:43 lol 05:37:24 *** Sonic has quit (nexus.cryto.net box.cryto.net) 05:37:24 *** joepie91 has quit (nexus.cryto.net box.cryto.net) 05:37:24 *** Researcher has quit (nexus.cryto.net box.cryto.net) 05:39:05 *** Sonic (Mcloven@cryto-9F42E372.static.internode.on.net) has joined #crytocc 05:39:05 *** Researcher (SysAdmin@23.226.135.27) has joined #crytocc 05:39:05 *** joepie91 (joepie91@5C4B2CE4.B8E60B3B.FD9B6484.IP) has joined #crytocc 05:47:40 *** suller_ (suller@DB1DFBF7.4BA2E7F4.10FAF6FD.IP) has joined #crytocc 05:48:20 *** suller has quit (Ping timeout) 06:05:04 *** tylerd00d (tylerd00d@cryto-6D7FD945.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 06:06:25 *** tylerd00d has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 06:33:23 *** AnonyOps has quit (Connection reset by peer) 07:16:54 *** suller_ has quit (Ping timeout) 07:18:43 *** suller_ (suller@DB1DFBF7.4BA2E7F4.10FAF6FD.IP) has joined #crytocc 08:09:31 *** suller_ has quit (Input/output error) 09:24:03 *** Sonic has quit (nexus.cryto.net box.cryto.net) 09:24:03 *** joepie91 has quit (nexus.cryto.net box.cryto.net) 09:24:03 *** Researcher has quit (nexus.cryto.net box.cryto.net) 09:36:29 *** warned has quit (Client exited) 09:39:32 *** warned (warned@cryto-7A26ADAA.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 09:56:33 *** mama (me@cryto-118E2B71.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 11:14:15 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 12:17:14 04FichteFoll made 3 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Add CSS3_Syntax', '02Update c.jsonAdd CSS3_Syntax to the correct location (alphabetical order).', '02Merge pull request #2887 from y0ssar1an/masterAdd CSS3_Syntax again' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/24d4ee30dd...bfd8eef05d) 12:35:58 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03CSScheme on branch 10master: '02Add "foreground" to allowed style list values', '02Prepare v0.2.1 release' (https://github.com/FichteFoll/CSScheme/compare/fd3588a8f9...b6a023aef0) 14:34:09 *** monod (none@AF6AC0AF.31E929A0.F83BB92F.IP) has joined #crytocc 14:34:35 hi 14:35:33 I'd really like to know that AnonnewsGuest better 14:35:50 nvm. 14:43:05 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 14:53:32 *** mama (me@cryto-69B96D3C.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 15:05:03 *** S1r3nide (S1r3nide@cryto-2D3825DF.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 15:06:24 *** S1r3nide has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 15:07:36 *** iceTwy has quit (Ping timeout) 16:40:44 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 16:41:00 *** mama (me@4945DC4E.9CCF12CB.C9DD1C79.IP) has joined #crytocc 17:19:11 04musalbas made 1 commit(s) to 03jPhone on branch 10master: '02m' (https://github.com/musalbas/jPhone/compare/8fb077f016...57b7c42684) 17:23:42 04musalbas made 0 commit(s) to 03jPhone on branch 10master: (https://github.com/musalbas/jPhone/compare/57b7c42684...fc93f9644f) 17:54:45 *** pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-BAE76FBA.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #crytocc 19:05:23 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 20:16:06 *** EroxOne (EroxOne@59F45C31.B8BFC48E.9AA6AC59.IP) has joined #crytocc 20:29:02 *** EroxOne has quit (User quit: ) 21:00:20 *** iceTwy has quit (Ping timeout) 21:21:12 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 21:34:09 *** Silence105_ (Silence105@cryto-FA256CEC.lightspeed.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net) has joined #crytocc 21:34:22 hello? 21:34:53 *** Silence105_ has quit (User quit: Page closed) 21:35:29 *** crytoweb822 (crytoweb82@cryto-FA256CEC.lightspeed.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net) has joined #crytocc 21:35:48 *** crytoweb822 has quit (User quit: Page closed) 21:42:36 YES HELLO! 21:42:51 Perhaps you should wait more than 44 seconds 22:56:19 yo 23:08:49 yes hello pzuraq 23:37:01 how's life dorotea? 23:38:46 Anyone ever use Elementary OS? 23:38:50 I wanna try it 23:40:27 pzuraq:) pretty good :) 23:40:43 I finally ate, so I'm doing better haha 23:49:21 nice, Imma eat carnitas later 23:49:35 dude have you seen Elementary OS?