00:07:51 *** iceTwy has quit (User quit: WeeChat 0.4.3) 00:34:03 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 01:43:52 *** AnonO_o (AnonO_o@cryto-6D08483.compute.is-1.greenqloud.com) has joined #crytocc 01:44:09 hai 01:49:28 *** Thor (numz@cryto-636D277F.junet.se) has joined #crytocc 02:15:19 urgh 02:15:20 joepie91: 09 Mar 21:09Z tell joepie91 please kick GCHQ 02:15:27 yeah, that's a bit late now 02:15:32 >.> 02:15:53 lol 02:17:10 my god 02:17:16 can't tell if stupid or poor troll 02:17:19 (reading backlog of that guy) 02:19:31 I CAME IN LIKE A WRECKING BALL 02:19:55 now you have aids 02:22:03 Joepie91 search light pack and tell me what you think 02:23:01 DrWhat: what? 02:23:08 also I am about to sleep 02:23:42 Thought you just got up 02:44:25 nope 02:44:30 he's been working all day :P 02:55:08 *** AnonO_o has quit (User quit: jIRCii - http://www.oldschoolirc.com) 03:27:03 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02added "GoToAnchor" package', '02Merge pull request #2931 from eecolella/masteradded "GoToAnchor" package' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/7736fec3ad...a33adef276) 03:29:35 04FichteFoll made 1 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Fix erroneous details url from #2927How ironic that I merged the tests to test exactly this right afterwards ...' 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(https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/ed1ea35305...ee7bb79a0f) 14:12:56 joepie91: http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/2014/03/doodenge_drone.html 14:35:41 ha ha! 14:35:48 people on HN are being dweebs! 14:36:16 front page article about `is jquery too big for mobile` 14:36:25 article wrongly answers question `no` 14:36:59 HN goes wooo it's probably okay wait we don't really think about this because we almost assume everyone's in SF on iphone 7 and 4g-lte-advanced 14:37:26 when in reality, 3g is optimistic if you're serving outside that market 14:37:45 dorotea: https://twitter.com/hackernewsonion 14:37:47 is jquery too big? yes. and any javascript that isn't hand written and optimized 14:38:37 jwa:) I don't want it 14:39:46 anybody who writes for mobile and uses jquery puts the gun to their own head 14:39:48 :| 14:40:52 * dorotea rages on down to neoliberalism avenue 14:41:27 *** mama has quit (Ping timeout) 14:42:26 coworker of mine previously head-desk'd several times a day having to port some website backend to a frontend prototype of a contractor made with jquery mobile 14:43:41 sounds more like factory production line for Headdesk 2.0! 14:47:59 *** LastOneStanding has quit (Connection reset by peer) 14:48:00 *** AnonLOS (lalalala@5C0B2CEF.B458528D.147E7205.IP) has joined #crytocc 14:52:51 well. I hate my current job just as much 14:56:03 *** mama (me@cryto-CF95923E.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 15:08:08 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 15:10:18 *** Stassi (Stassi__@cryto-CE7FD08D.ighost.se) has joined #crytocc 15:19:41 *** jwa has quit (User quit: Lost terminal) 15:40:28 lol'd 15:40:33 walked back home from supermarket 15:40:42 walked past a villa with a Porsche on the driveway 15:41:03 and what did I see through the window? two plastic bags of the "Action", the rock bottom discount store chain in NL lol 15:48:51 How are AMD stocks DROPPING 15:49:01 joepie91:) heh. It's a common understanding here that you cannot have one without the other 15:49:12 Im confused 15:49:23 XBOX and PS4 are built on AMD chip sets 15:49:36 yep 15:49:36 stocks should be going up :( 15:49:42 but they are dropping 15:49:54 what did amd fuck up? 15:50:08 dorotea: hmm? 15:50:12 gotta remember, stocks aren't actually tied to market fundamentals anymore 15:50:24 joepie91:) the porsche cannot exist without "action" stuffs 15:50:38 well yeah, that's why I laughed 15:50:53 the people who have a Porsche in the driveway, usually don't visit the Action 15:50:54 lol 15:51:00 monterey, our tourist town and very expensive place to visit, does not exist without seaside and marina (the poor cities where the workers who keep monterey running live) 15:51:18 then again, I've seen virtually everybody (including rich people) buy rock-bottom brand-less stuff at supermarkets as well 15:51:20 lately 15:51:30 excellent 15:51:40 ahh 15:51:44 I present a paper in 1h10m 15:51:46 >_> 15:51:56 http://prntscr.com/2zlv9n 15:51:57 WTF 15:52:06 AMD isnt even in the index of my broker 15:52:07 post-apartheid neoliberal development 15:52:10 grrrr 15:52:15 such wow 15:52:45 DrWhat is playing stocks? 15:52:47 I dunno what app that is, but that's a grand total of 2$ variation 15:52:52 that's peanuts 15:52:56 joepie91 yup 15:52:57 Paper on South Africa? 15:53:13 MK_FG:) yeah, post apartheid development regime instituted by mbeki 15:53:17 dorotea the software has auto profit 15:53:24 I bought 100 stocks 15:53:26 * joepie91 raises eyebrow 15:53:36 1200 euro worth 15:53:38 "auto profit" 15:53:43 yep 15:53:44 "auto lulz canon" 15:53:45 shadiness alarm ringing 15:54:01 once i get a overall profit os 100 euro its automaticly withdrawn 15:54:58 Software "mines" stock-market-coins :P 15:55:07 yep 15:55:13 that's what all hft is 15:55:25 mining coins from between the competing algos 15:57:17 tbh, the entire stock marker is absolutely ridiculous 15:57:45 as far as I can tell - and as far as anybody has been able to explain to me - it's just an abstract numbers game, and the whole "stocks in companies" doesn't really amount to much more than a figurehead nowadays 15:58:06 stocks are awesome 15:58:08 like, wtf, it has become an industry in itself 15:58:21 i read about this one guy who played the stock market for 2 years 15:58:29 ...and then they bitch about bitcoins ;) 15:58:34 and earned enough money to buy the company he was playing his stocks on 15:58:42 MK_FG: pretty much my thoughts... 15:58:53 that said, I am getting really tired of the speculative crowd in BTC 15:59:17 DrWhat: that sounds implausible 15:59:32 hmmm 15:59:32 WAIT 15:59:43 Since mtgox ran off with alot of BTC 15:59:52 shoudnt prices are btc be going up 16:00:02 since there are ALOT less btc off the map 16:00:08 MK_FG:) joepie91:) I suspect it's a case of "the devil you know" 16:00:20 DrWhat: no, and not necessarily 16:00:22 untill the possibility mtgox returns all btc 16:00:33 no 16:00:41 .bitcoin 16:00:42 1 BTC = $622.11, 1 BTC = €448.37 16:00:49 DrWhat: first off, mt gox had become an isolated market to begin with due to their months of withdrawal problems 16:00:55 that's how regular economics works, but regular economics doesn't take into account near infinite divisibility of currency 16:01:01 it is not unreasonable to assume that "the market" as a whole already assumed those BTC to be lost 16:01:20 second, nobody actually KNOWS if gox ran away with them 16:01:28 or whether they are under somebody elses control 16:01:40 with usd if you take 1m off the market you actually have 1m less. in btc, you just divide smaller btc's for same dollar value 16:01:43 which means that it's unclear whether they will be in circulation in the foreseeable future or not 16:01:58 dorotea; no, what he suggested as correct (according to his POV) 16:02:00 loleconomics 16:02:07 shoudnt prices are btc be going up 16:02:13 that's exactly the effect you're describing 16:02:32 yes, I was explaining it using mainstream economic reasons 16:02:36 I still think his conclusion is based on shoddy arguments, but assuming his arguments were to be correct, so would his conclusion 16:02:37 less btc = more demand = higher offers 16:02:43 well not less 16:02:46 see, yeah 16:02:50 he's even using mainstream thinking 16:02:59 DrWhat: that's the thing... you don't KNOW if they are 'lost' or 'unavailable' or not 16:03:03 and neither does anybody else 16:03:05 you can only speculate 16:03:17 yeah 16:03:18 joepie91:) you're totally targetting the wrong part of his argument >_> 16:03:23 Are they stolen? 16:03:29 does gox have them? 16:03:38 Is the wallet still out there? 16:03:44 or is it deleted :O 16:03:57 DrWhat: nobody knows. 16:04:14 I bet somone is trying to brute force gtgox wallet 16:04:19 dorotea: I don't see any other part of his argument where there's a problem? 16:04:34 DrWhat: I'm sure somebody is, and I'm also sure that they don't realize how futile it is 16:04:37 Shit 16:04:56 joepie91:) the failure of his argument doesn't depend on lost coins or not-lost-coins. in normal econ when you limit supply (or artificially lower it), demand for current supply goes up (thus prices too). that's his argument. 16:05:07 ^ 16:05:09 joepie91:) that entire argument fails in bitcoin because of near infinite divisibility 16:05:16 dorotea: what? 16:05:20 no it doesn't? 16:05:23 I can't type this out 16:05:25 yes it does 16:05:28 I guaruntee it 16:05:39 sorry, years of economics man 16:05:41 how does divisibility have to do with it? it just facilitates it better 16:05:45 no 16:05:46 bitcoin cant be divided into more bitcoins 16:06:03 the reduction of supply causing increased demand is predicated on dollars not being infinitely divisible 16:06:05 1 bitcoin is 1 bitcoin 16:06:15 dorotea: what? 16:06:17 you can spliit oit into 2 16:06:20 cant* 16:06:24 bitcoins are (for intents and purposes) infinitely divisible 16:06:36 (not quite, but 8 decimals for now) 16:06:41 dorotea: you do realize that dollars _are_ infinitely divisible, just not physically representable as such? 16:06:57 joepie91:) that's correct, but we don't trade mpennies 16:07:06 upennies XD 16:07:11 no, because there is no reason to 16:07:11 I'm arguing from mainstream economics, joepie91 16:07:20 dorotea: I'm arguing that what DrWhat said is entirely correct 16:07:27 these are things that are assumptions for those in the mainstream 16:07:35 did you know that its cost the fed 1.6pennies to make 1 pennie 16:07:39 whether you can divide it into smaller units or not, does not make a difference as to whether a single BTC (which is a fixed unit of a fixed supply) becomes worth more or less 16:07:49 ^ 16:07:49 it just tells you how easy it is to work with strong deflation 16:07:58 yup 16:08:01 that you then start using smaller units such as mBTC doesn't matter 16:08:09 the BTC (not mBTC!) still go up in 'value' 16:08:13 if the supply decreases 16:08:16 if soo many bitcoins become lost 16:08:26 that isn't my understanding 16:08:27 or you have such a small amouse below 1 btc 16:08:31 you can use mbtc 16:08:32 :D 16:08:33 because a now-smaller fixed amount of BTC needs to represent the same market cap 16:08:48 it works exactly the same as with any other currency, or commodity for that matter 16:08:49 haha 16:08:54 it's just easier to cope with 16:09:00 you're arguing an even more extreme mainstream understanding than me 16:09:01 haha 16:09:06 inb4 somone finds a exploit in the software to increess the btc cap 16:09:08 I am entertained 16:09:15 I have class, but we'll pick this up later 16:09:16 dorotea: this is not a "mainstream understanding", this is cold hard logic 16:09:27 yes joepie91 that is mainstream understanding 16:09:29 DrWhat: "the software" = ? 16:09:30 *** Zekka (zekka@cryto-4AFAE809.arizona.edu) has joined #crytocc 16:09:35 logic does not govern markets 16:09:35 netowrk 16:09:38 dorotea: awesome! for once, the mainstream understanding is based on logic! 16:09:38 network 16:09:47 DrWhat: the "network" is an abstract concept 16:09:51 it does not exist and you cannot exploit it 16:09:53 anyway 16:09:56 im goingto shut up now 16:10:16 I must go to class, we will talk more later :) 16:10:21 mm 16:10:38 gox says the btc's was stolen 16:10:43 everyone says he ran off with them 16:13:04 joepie91, do you want to go to SA 16:13:17 *** Thor (numz@cryto-F9D9164.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc 16:15:15 SA? 16:16:04 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQoDBaNlWkY 16:16:52 south africa 16:17:13 SomethingAwful :P 16:17:20 (same thing?) 16:18:17 http://prntscr.com/2zm1bf 16:18:21 i love this script 16:19:15 DrWhat; uh, idk, why? :P 16:19:26 also, blind-economist-alert: http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/03/10/nouriel-roubini-bitcoin-is-a-ponzi-game/ 16:19:39 You have a stress issue 16:19:46 Lets enilelate that stress 16:19:56 Ever surfed on sand 16:19:58 :) 16:20:23 I have never seen a good argument about bitcoin being a ponzi scheme 16:20:38 dorotea: this guy... seriously 16:20:49 these are the kind of arguments that a shitty troll on IRC brings up 16:20:52 Thought you have class 16:21:18 I do! 16:21:24 Oh shit 16:21:31 class requires pants and is 25 minutes away from here 16:21:33 * dorotea zooms 16:21:38 Edward is suing Google talk to do the interview 16:21:43 using* 16:21:52 INB4 nsa tracking him 16:24:05 There's your reason to send a missile to a random part of moscow ;) 16:24:24 kill snowdan? 16:24:27 NOOOOOOO 16:24:29 hes cute :) 16:24:35 he can live at my house :)- 16:24:40 Kill Snowdan, start ww3 \o/ 16:24:47 NOOOOOOOO!!!! 16:24:49 fuck you 16:24:51 meanie 16:25:10 Nuke russie yeah 16:25:15 But not while showdan is there 16:25:42 I wonder if he still is 16:25:54 Nope 16:25:58 Hes at my house 16:26:09 My house is safe from the NSA 16:26:17 20 feet underground 16:26:30 Self providing 16:26:44 Living where everyone might look for him seem to be not ideal 16:26:57 thats the thing 16:27:02 They cant look here 16:27:06 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 16:27:16 And e.g. going to some neighbor country with open borders (e.g. kazakhstan) seem to be easy 16:27:34 going to a country with open boarders is good 16:27:41 you can enter and leave when you please 16:27:46 Live on the board 16:28:58 *** Zekka (zekka@cryto-4AFAE809.arizona.edu) has joined #crytocc 16:29:57 google talk connexion don't work vey well 16:30:18 yeah 16:30:25 it soo laggy becuase the NSA is hacking it 16:30:26 XD 16:33:04 or maybe just because it's google :) 16:38:15 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Adding repository entry for the Gradle Language package.', '02Merge pull request #2934 from kingofmalkier/masterAdding repository entry for the Gradle Language package.' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/ee7bb79a0f...a6979c2c9e) 16:41:02 I need to learn a new lanaguge 16:41:09 joepie91 any pointers? 16:48:17 DrWhat; Python :P 16:49:01 Point me to a good tut 16:49:48 um... 16:50:02 DrWhat: http://learnpythonthehardway.org/ 16:50:10 O_o 16:50:16 the hard way 16:50:17 don't let the name mislead you :P 16:50:18 really 16:50:27 Such hard 16:50:29 much wow 16:50:37 the name is explained in the book afaik 16:50:47 Awwwww 16:50:48 books 16:51:07 DrWhat: a book is just a big tutorial ;) 16:51:27 you think i learnt php in 1 week by reading books 16:51:35 I hate reading 16:52:05 WHAT 16:52:09 $29.99 for the pdf 16:52:12 RUSRS 16:52:18 joepie91 Free please 16:52:19 DrWhat: link at the top 16:52:19 free html 16:52:23 ... 16:52:28 readingcomprehension.avi 16:52:49 * DrWhat grumpbles 16:52:57 * DrWhat grumbles* 16:53:32 Print i know 16:53:36 variabled i know 16:53:41 math i know 16:53:56 string and int i know 16:54:38 DrWhat: just skip over the bits you know 16:54:38 :0 16:54:39 :) * 16:54:46 afaik it was actually made to be possible to do that 16:55:00 WTF is this 16:55:10 Part 7 16:55:12 Printing 16:55:19 part 8 Printing, Printing 16:55:26 part 9 Printing printing prting 16:55:35 Somthing is tell me to not take this seriously 17:14:35 DrWhat: just follow it 17:14:36 : 17:14:36 :P * 17:14:57 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 17:25:55 43 euro profit atm 17:26:10 Imma wait for it to start dropping to sell 17:26:55 http://prntscr.com/2zmohh 17:27:20 46 euro now 17:27:28 47 17:27:37 and 46 again 17:29:27 *** Inf3rnal (lalalala@5C0B2CEF.B458528D.147E7205.IP) has joined #crytocc 17:29:28 *** AnonLOS has quit (Connection reset by peer) 17:34:28 *** Zekka (zekka@Zekka.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 17:39:57 *** Thor has quit (User quit: Quitte) 17:55:01 *** Zekka has quit (Ping timeout) 17:55:04 Just had "random.random() < 0.5" in a plugin script return False ~5 times in a row, noticed that, added random.seed() (no idea what goes on in py before script) - ~5 more times of False before first True. I should play DrWhat's lottery ;) 17:55:04 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 17:55:39 http://prntscr.com/2zmz1z 17:55:41 Do 17:55:44 Im making money 17:56:03 Bet more! 17:56:22 4000 shares :) 17:56:25 *** An0nEnd3r has quit (Connection reset by peer) 17:56:38 what in this world are you doing DrWhat o.o 17:56:53 Didn't I suggest you to take that loan from the mob before... 17:57:00 Playing the stock exchange 17:57:26 *** An0nEnd3r (An0nEnd3r@3D80D593.AAE2E054.8BD853D0.IP) has joined #crytocc 17:57:45 iceTwy_znc you should try 17:57:47 its fubn 17:57:53 er no thanks 17:57:55 :P 17:57:57 Why not 17:58:07 $ is precious and I don't want to take risks 17:58:12 or at least, not now, lol. 17:58:21 anyhow 17:58:34 i have £10,000 on BAIDU 17:58:37 does anyone have an idea whether I can run a mail server on a 256MB server? 17:58:43 so far making a £24 profit 17:58:55 No £48 17:59:02 Now £72 17:59:05 its going up 17:59:05 iceTwy, For personal use - definitely 17:59:07 YAY 17:59:12 it was at 24 for like 5 minutes 17:59:24 okay MK_FG 17:59:25 iceTwy, But if you plan to use postfix, make sure it's not some openvz 17:59:31 ofc 17:59:36 ah 17:59:37 really 17:59:39 why? 17:59:46 I ran a mail server on OpenVZ for months lol 17:59:54 It forks crapton of pids for everything 18:00:04 true 18:00:06 And connects them all with two craptons of sockets 18:00:19 OpenVZs usually have strict limits for all of these things 18:00:52 exim or sendmail might be better, iirc both do everything in one pid 18:03:16