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20:53:32 hahahaha 20:54:42 as if they were little laboratory animal xD 20:54:46 no but 20:54:48 look at that code 20:54:50 god dammit 20:55:02 $answer = $_GET["ans"]; 20:55:02 I did some reading of twitters history recently and found a minor drama from php's past 20:55:04 $nam = $_GET["name"]; 20:55:08 $update = "UPDATE User SET Level='$le', Score='$sc' where Name = '$nam'"; 20:55:10 mysql_query($update,$con); 20:55:15 I WOULD LIKE TO SQLI THAT SHIT SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HARd 20:55:20 well, HARD*, even 20:55:23 Turned out they used to have strlen() as a hash for their stdlib functions 20:55:38 wat? 20:55:40 really? 20:55:42 And kept them all of roughly diff lengths 20:55:55 okay 20:55:56 ...to avoid a lot of collisions 20:55:57 Yeah 20:56:01 wtf 20:56:26 "You can't have strlen() name, we should have it 20 chars long!" 20:56:37 You can't make that shit up 20:57:48 no you can't 20:57:57 why didn't they use proper hash functions in the first place? 20:58:23 Excellent question. 20:58:28 Given other facts and shit there, I think they're just as dumb as they come 20:58:48 "Why the hell going to the toilet where it's written "Toilet" on the wall?!?" 20:58:49 Like, a rock-solid dumb 20:58:55 Complete imbeciles 20:59:05 Monkeys 20:59:22 Syeknom, sounds fine :D 20:59:31 Yeknom, too. 20:59:32 Impossible to take these guys or any php devs seriously ;) 21:00:53 Aaaaand, at some point in that probability book, there's a paragraph titled: "Why so many transforms?", lol 21:00:54 :D 21:01:36 Hehe 21:12:11 MK_FG: frankly I don't know why PHP isn't dead yet 21:12:24 there are other, much cooler languages to use 21:12:41 As if php peoples care! :P 21:12:45 take Python, Node, Ruby (the language, not the ecosystem) 21:12:49 yeah 21:12:50 well 21:12:52 their loss 21:12:55 They have their awesome docs, too 21:13:09 Which promote the shit that should not even be named ;) 21:13:45 what shit? 21:14:06 Like code in that stack overflow link above 21:14:12 Broken crypto 21:14:17 Insane quackery 21:14:24 Take your pick :P 21:14:29 what are we talking about 21:14:31 PHP docs 21:14:33 Yep 21:14:34 or Python/Ruby/Node docs? 21:14:36 oh okay 21:14:38 well definitely haha 21:14:46 PHP docs, examples, comments there 21:16:56 I wonder if 10y from now, someone will be saying same thing about e.g. callbacks in node 21:17:15 Given that even now there's no reason for these to exist 21:19:33 At least it doesn't have python's stdlib though ;) 21:20:13 I've just noticed one strange behavior for firefox 21:20:51 If you reload a page clicking on the reload button, you get the page in 3 times much as if you clicked the address in the address bar and pressed return 21:21:11 The button is 3 times slower, I mean 21:21:20 It happens sistematically! 21:21:21 :O 21:21:39 systematically* 21:21:44 I think it does mandatory http requests for every resource on F5 21:21:53 I.e. if you had jquery.js loaded... 21:22:18 ...and it had some "cache it client-side for year" header 21:22:40 ...F5 will still do http request for it, though it'll probably return "not modified" reply 21:22:52 lol 21:22:59 Ok :) 21:23:02 And if you visit site regularly - i.e. by (re-)typing url - this thing won't happen 21:23:41 Probably done to satisfy users' expectations of "reloading something" 21:23:42 The least you already know of one page, the less you ask of it when you ask _for_ it, like 21:24:11 Otherwise you go change JS with the notepad, hit F5 and nothing changes - you go "wtf" 21:24:17 No one remembers teh caches ;) 21:24:58 Change JS with notepad? 21:25:12 Development server 21:25:31 Still ununderstading :D 21:25:36 "ununderstanding" 21:25:51 (not* understanding probably) 21:26:00 I mean on your own site instance 21:26:18 Usually - and historically - web development goes like... 21:26:32 ...you put some html/css/js/whatevers on the server 21:26:39 You hit F5, see broken stuff 21:26:52 You go fix some of it, hit F5 and see it's still broken 21:27:13 And if nothing changes for too long, it gets frustrating! 21:27:23 Of course it does! 21:27:34 Then you realize that holy cow, your browser doesn't even try to load new versions 21:27:49 And you're supposed to be an idiot for not remembering about caches 21:28:14 Happens to me all the time, despite FF helping with F5 21:28:52 But also if some php script gets legit broken because of what iceTwy_ linked above... 21:29:19 ...you sure would be glad if you can hit F5 and FF will load non-broken version instead of caching broken stuff 21:29:42 So F5 does not read cached versions if I got it right 21:30:01 More tricky than that, I think 21:30:08 Awwww 21:30:14 Ctrl+F5 doesn't read any caches 21:30:17 :O 21:30:31 F5 just expires all pure-client-side ones 21:30:51 And does GET/HEAD requests, specifying that it still has some version of the file 21:31:06 (as opposed to Ctrl+F5, where it'll say that it has none) 21:31:38 And indeed Ctrl+F5 takes 1.3x the time of F5 21:31:44 clearly 21:32:10 Gotta find that normal distribution now 21:48:00 A new number to remind https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1.96 21:48:24 (to waste some brain space) 21:48:31 (kidding) 21:51:19 okay 21:51:21 article sent in 21:51:23 wo 21:51:25 o 22:00:06 *** TorfigherF1 (TorfigherF@61BDA25A.3F7D9B67.65D27609.IP) has joined #crytocc 22:00:56 *** foolex has quit (Client exited) 22:01:28 *** TorfigherF1 has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 22:07:03 *** foolex (foolex@cryto-A6129701.ip-198-50-145.net) has joined #crytocc 22:21:33 Gottttta go! 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