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twitter? 05:56:19 or impersonating that ginger devil* 05:57:10 dunno, but I blocked thinking it was gov troll added me to a list that I saw this ginger (you?) watching so yeah 05:57:13 but HELLO. 05:57:16 :) 05:57:43 I need some more LSD brb 05:58:21 *** Hedg3 is now known as LunaElektra_ 05:58:41 huh? 05:58:43 if so, and that was you, don't do that again. 05:58:55 I may have added you, but you're not a news organization 05:58:59 nm... think they*/ um busy with someone else 05:59:01 so it's unlikely you'd be put in a list 05:59:12 no, I was on one 05:59:20 that you were following if you're the ginger 05:59:29 I'm not a ginger, no 05:59:41 oh I'm always some list of something 05:59:42 if you mean I have colored red hair, then yes that's my profile photo 05:59:47 okay, problem solved then 05:59:53 ? 06:00:04 yeah, fuw off with the semantics 06:00:07 ;) 06:00:27 one is derogatory, the other is not genetically redheaded or derogatory 06:00:31 >_> 06:00:35 in your understanding 06:00:43 I quite like redheads/ginger 06:00:59 words/terms = ambigious [sic?] 06:01:06 I figure if I was a redhead I'd punch people if they called me a ginger 06:01:12 * dorotea shrugs 06:01:16 LOL 06:01:31 well then 06:01:34 punch?\ 06:01:37 -' 06:01:40 blah 06:01:53 as it did follow sven 06:01:59 hmm, no, didn't add you to a list 06:02:01 and responded, thought it was you 06:02:05 I KNOW 06:02:09 keep up~! 06:02:18 but someone else did... 06:02:24 and you followed the list 06:02:32 of mostly infosec people 06:02:39 the only public list I have is news orgs, and iirc you didn't warrant addition to my private list of cool people 06:02:39 lol 06:02:43 probably 06:02:48 I'm on/follow tons of those 06:02:48 O_O 06:02:53 ADMIT IT! 06:02:55 :) 06:03:15 I admit that I stopped maintaining a list of cool people 06:03:15 lol 06:03:29 oh I was supposed offended. 06:03:36 my bad 06:03:38 I admit I refuse to follow ugly dudes 06:03:40 :) 06:03:46 I could say something offensive to make it better or something 06:03:47 lol 06:03:51 or ones that act stupid with love games too 06:03:54 ;) 06:04:02 Pretty sure I don't do that 06:04:13 oh there's few out there that do that 06:04:18 seriously 06:04:21 try ewhoring 06:04:21 Though I suppose I'd flirt mercilessly with most people 06:04:24 :) 06:04:33 cause really, there's no downside 06:05:01 oh social engineering bullshit? 06:05:09 I think you'd be REALLY bad at that. 06:05:12 worst case scenario I go to SF and have somebody to spend a night with... that's such a horrendous outcome and all 06:05:17 nah 06:05:28 I'm pretty honest, even when SE 06:05:34 well you think that prolly cuz yer a dude 06:05:36 brb 06:05:38 bad liar lol 06:05:51 idk what my gender has to do with it 06:06:05 I'm just a shitty liar *shrugs* 06:06:35 no, that's the HFA :P 06:07:07 shame to give out other pplz profile pics 06:07:08 ;) 06:07:15 or profiles etc 06:07:39 right then 06:07:45 onto next thing on agenda 06:07:49 * LunaElektra_ looks down list 06:07:52 >:) 06:08:06 nope, not on it... 06:08:28 and I still fucking hate facebook 06:08:37 lol 06:08:55 I'm excited they're turning into a giant news distributor 06:09:12 I suppose I should be horrified/scared about the power that grants them, but it doesn't seem to matter anymore 06:10:37 yeah weird eh? 06:11:01 yeah 06:11:05 I dunno. I went back after years gone... and I bumped to my old life* 06:11:08 I mean, that's what I'm pissed about 06:11:09 lol 06:11:12 er into 06:11:12 that it doesn't matter 06:11:24 yep 06:11:27 I hear you 06:11:35 I posted the Facebook study on there 06:11:46 one person looked at it... LMAO 06:11:49 lmao 06:11:55 so much interest 06:11:55 lol 06:12:09 then info about the app listening in on their stand alone chat app 06:12:15 = NOTHING. 06:12:23 haha 06:12:29 ppl are like! oh but I use it?! 06:12:40 yeah and soon google now will be on everything, and shortly thereafter the mic will run all the time 06:12:41 really, so do they! they can hear you, farting! 06:12:43 etc. shit 06:12:49 LOL 06:13:01 I like google now, but it's gonna get forced on everyone... and that's not good 06:13:07 `google now` 06:13:08 * LunaElektra_ quickly unistalls camera and mic O_O 06:13:14 haha 06:13:15 better 06:13:16 I care less about them hearing me 06:13:25 I just tape up my motherfucking cameras 06:13:26 google.com can listen and do `google now` 06:13:33 spooky lil nsa toads O_O 06:13:42 idk go to google.com and say "OK Google" and see if shit happens 06:13:43 lol 06:13:52 what if adapting shit is set on windows? 06:13:58 o_O 06:13:59 * dorotea dunno 06:14:04 I run linux, no clue 06:14:05 lol 06:14:06 oh well 06:14:19 yes, I was supposed to get that going as an OS 06:14:26 for a progam I'm doing 06:14:36 whoops beer* 06:14:39 program :) 06:14:47 for a beer you're doing 06:14:47 lol 06:14:48 but it looks SCARY. 06:14:52 LMAO 06:14:54 SHH! 06:15:02 the nsa are listening o_O 06:15:04 :P 06:15:16 asshole. 06:15:18 if you end up, for some fucking reason, in SF, hollar, I'll help you get it running and teach ya etc 06:15:19 no. 06:15:20 code crap 06:15:28 what's sf? 06:15:31 san fran? 06:15:32 san francisco 06:15:38 I don't live there, but it's close enough 06:15:39 oh no, near to 06:15:43 LOL 06:15:59 4h of travel on public transit 06:16:02 not bad imo 06:16:03 commute shit or telecommite 06:16:09 whoa! 06:16:11 seriously? 06:16:15 some commute 06:16:15 yeah 06:16:19 nah haha 06:16:25 I sleep in the city when I go up 06:16:26 telecomite! LOL 06:16:30 got like 3 or 4 places 06:16:36 liar 06:16:42 not even a little 06:16:42 on peoples couches 06:16:45 yep 06:16:52 or some random millaionar'osadjf 06:17:00 I gave up on that word 06:17:00 someday, not this day 06:17:01 lol 06:17:01 :) 06:17:12 ohhh 06:17:22 like so the weird happy hacker dude? 06:17:29 sure why not 06:17:32 cept not a hacker 06:17:33 LOL 06:17:40 great 06:17:42 NSA! 06:17:42 I can't self-identify as that, that violates being a hacker 06:17:43 :P 06:17:54 as a hacker? 06:17:58 correct 06:18:10 that's a socially ascribed term 06:18:19 oh so I hafta to identidfy as a hacker to be not known as one 06:18:25 * LunaElektra_ scribbles this down 06:18:27 :P 06:18:31 lol 06:18:49 or you're paid* 06:19:02 paid for what 06:19:06 I do everything for free 06:19:09 not hacking* 06:19:17 LOL 06:19:22 oh sure I'd love to get paid not to hack 06:19:27 oh! porn 06:19:28 :) 06:19:33 I'll just keep doing what I'm doing, and take money for doing it 06:19:35 most excellent 06:19:40 LOL 06:19:45 why not hack? 06:19:57 and not get paid? 06:20:01 I'm uninterested in dealing with the law 06:20:12 * LunaElektra_ looks into heine bottleneck 06:20:25 so you are! 06:20:31 opposite land 06:20:49 i don't think anyone is (not opposite land) 06:21:07 aye 06:21:11 they're as creepy/sociopathic as the worst politico bandits 06:21:15 I wouldn't care if it were 20 years ago 06:21:35 20! 06:21:45 but the legal climate now has fully shifted prosecutorial incentives away from discretion being a good idea 06:21:46 my gawd... thought you were in your 20's 06:21:54 I am :) 06:21:59 LOL 06:22:09 yeah... I would suck at that. 06:22:27 dunno... 06:22:36 I'm young of course, but I try also to be useful with history. I'm not there yet, but working on it 06:22:36 hear about the weirdo in ottawa 06:22:38 WOW. 06:22:41 just nuts. 06:22:51 12 years of harassment on people 06:22:56 mind blown* 06:22:56 no idea 06:23:10 look up Robert Campbell cyberstalking 06:23:14 it's just nuts 06:23:24 I'mma go hang out with my roommates, I don't really care about people 06:23:25 lol 06:23:29 night :) 06:23:30 overabundance of nuts 06:23:41 48 charges criminal harassment 06:23:58 it just goes on, up about 200 charges to count now 06:24:01 with pub. ban 06:24:11 whacky. 06:24:33 who devotes that much time to hate/and destruction online, someone pretty twisted and awful 06:25:02 he was difficult because I guess he was using Tor with like messed up Pdigin/AnonTwi I dunno 06:25:05 just whacky shit 06:25:18 hiding his tracks carefully 06:25:27 poor people affected :( 06:25:59 12 years of it... O_O 06:26:12 Yes, it's HFA :P 06:28:39 wow he's a bag full of giggles, ain't he... 06:28:48 KEEP ME OFF YER FECKING LISTS... :) 06:43:35 jerk... 06:58:22 NITE! strange silent hacker people... :) 06:58:31 with weird HFA 06:58:37 but loved dearly* 06:58:39 .) 06:58:45 *** LunaElektra_ has quit (User quit: ) 07:46:08 *** bor15an0n has quit (Client exited) 07:46:48 *** thefur (jewel@87152902.43DE370E.402B1737.IP) has joined #crytocc 08:40:12 *** neomagik_ (u@cryto-810FE05D.customer.t3.se) has joined #crytocc 08:42:18 *** neomagik has quit (Ping timeout) 08:45:04 *** clutteralert (clutterale@cryto-6B61F034.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 08:46:25 *** clutteralert has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 09:10:43 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 09:32:45 *** Charles (Charles@908B536.95108C33.5B0695F1.IP) has joined #crytocc 09:32:57 .bitcoin 09:32:58 1 BTC = $584.45, 1 BTC = €435.20 09:33:53 is macbeth still active on anonnews channel?? 09:37:26 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18:28:43 *** iceTwy has quit (Ping timeout) 18:30:04 *** fizznun (fizznun@cryto-6B61F034.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 18:30:10 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 18:31:26 *** fizznun has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 18:39:13 sup iceTwy :> 18:40:37 dorotea: annoyed 18:40:42 I'm trying to setup Arch on my new laptop 18:40:47 ohai iceTwy 18:40:48 lol 18:40:51 lol 18:40:52 I'm almost there, but of course systemd has to fuck up 18:40:56 .. 18:40:57 * joepie91_ slow clap 18:41:03 do they ship a recent build of it? 18:41:07 yes 18:41:07 like 213 or so 18:41:10 the newestr 18:41:11 "naaaah, Arch works fine, never had problems with it" 18:41:12 :P 18:41:14 newest* 18:41:14 215 18:41:17 (fucking debian ships 208) 18:41:26 * dorotea wants 213 18:41:33 joepie91_: well on my desktop PCs no, but er, I have this bug 18:41:39 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73942 18:41:41 lol 18:41:42 btw, iceTwy: Yahoo has actual customer support! 18:41:44 which is NOT an Arch bug, joepie91_ ;) 18:41:53 :P 18:42:01 stupid systemd tho 18:42:04 anyhow, Yahoo? 18:42:13 ye 18:42:16 yahoo 18:42:28 yes 18:42:31 (finally, speaking in this channel!) 18:42:53 iceTwy: ended up on a "pick your help topic" page, expected an FAQ maze like with Twitter, instead clicked "my topic is not in the list" on the second screen 18:42:56 and got a contact form 18:43:00 with a support response 2 hours later 18:43:17 so eh, as far as large internet companies go, that's amazingly excellent 18:43:19 lol 18:43:20 * dorotea tells reuters to hurry up 18:43:36 eh 18:43:40 you might have been lucky joepie91_ :P 18:44:01 iceTwy: idk, compared to others (Google, Twitter, ...) it's amazing that they even *have* a contact form 18:44:05 I mean, have you ever tried to contact Twitter or Google 18:44:07 lol 18:44:09 no 18:44:12 lol 18:44:14 actually yes for Google 18:44:16 might as well write it on a post-it and throw it into the ocean 18:44:18 they answered quickly enough 18:44:23 iceTwy: how? 18:44:31 because I've never been able to find contact details 18:44:32 can't remember 18:44:33 for Google 18:44:37 it was something related to youtube 18:44:42 and there's mostly non-response on the forums 18:44:48 and their bugtrackers are basically a black hole 18:44:55 oh yeah, the forums are a joke 18:45:37 iceTwy: I think I filed a bug on the chromium bugtracker about breaking CSS mis-calculations 18:45:38 like 2 years ago 18:45:42 never got a response 18:45:55 just none 18:46:24 It's fine, I reported a dmcrypt bug 3 years ago and it still hasn't been fixed 18:47:17 dorotea: ironically, the bug I reported has been fixed 18:47:23 but not through the bug report 18:47:33 I fucking hate systemd 18:47:38 grrr 18:47:39 because hey, if you replace /the entire goddamn renderer/, chances are that your CSS rendering bugs go away 18:47:40 lol 18:47:40 sysv worked fucking fine 18:47:51 lulz 18:48:01 worked fine is not a very high bar 18:48:18 well this is simple 18:48:23 * dorotea is excited about systemd, because replacing 40 year old systems can be good 18:48:29 you can't even enter your fucking password for your encrypted partitions 18:48:35 BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LET YOU 18:48:41 * dorotea shrugs 18:49:12 I don't encrypt anything for reasons like that -- the tools aren't, contrary to the people who write them, ready for use 18:49:25 but that's fucking basic coding 18:49:32 correct 18:49:36 do you see why I don't use them? 18:49:37 :P 18:49:38 :< 18:49:38 btw 18:49:41 dorotea: iceTwy: http://owely.com/817WIns 18:49:46 I have a feeling this is going to end in tears 18:50:07 that's awesome 18:50:42 I'm happy he's being the one who takes all the shit for writing crypto in js 18:50:46 the main issue being that he doesn't have a particularly good track record at "hey, you can do this in javascript!" 18:50:48 it has to be done and nobody wants to 18:50:57 oh, sure 18:51:11 but that doesn't take away that this probably *will* end in tears 18:51:13 hm 18:51:14 very interesting. 18:51:20 we can't write good crypto/js implementations until someone stands up and makes all the mistakes 18:51:23 this how systemd works. 18:51:35 1: asks you to enter your / partition password (normal), works fine. 18:51:45 honestly, JS isn't the best language for crypto 18:51:48 (but neither is C) 18:52:07 2: asks you to enter your /home partition pw. then prints "A start job is running...", which repeats itself, so it doesn't let you input your PW. 18:52:19 the thing I'm looking at is this: js runs on everything. Soon, literally anything. If we want crypto on everything, crypto must run in js or be easily stapled into it 18:52:29 3: because of the lack of a password for /home, it redirects you to an emergency shell. 18:52:45 Quits emergency shell automatically, repeat from #2 3 times. 18:52:55 best that crypto is built-in idiotproof functions with a small list of supported, tested ciphers 18:52:57 Then finally lets you access an emergency shell, login as root 18:53:02 iceTwy: "THAT'S NOT HOW YOU USE STDOUT, YOU MORON" 18:53:06 AND THEN it finally fucking lets you write your /home password 18:53:09 none of this tls shit where there are 150 ciphers 18:53:12 joepie91_: haha pretty much 18:54:05 this is so hot https://www.npmjs.org/package/p2pdht 18:54:25 oh 18:54:27 dorotea 18:54:32 did I link you the peabody thing 18:54:36 yeap 18:54:47 iceTwy: you might also like it actually 18:54:49 https://www.npmjs.org/package/peabody 18:55:02 a time machine proxy, basically 18:55:58 I'll check that later, I'm a bit busy haha 18:57:42 and obviously there are 366 people on #systemd but nobody answers 18:57:52 grats systemd, you are the failure of all software 18:58:17 lol 18:58:19 also 18:58:19 http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/03/opinion/sunday/evgeny-morozov-facebooks-gateway-drug.html 18:58:22 cc dorotea 18:58:54 iceTwy:) it's sunday, you dunce 18:59:03 nobody is online sundays 18:59:09 I am 18:59:09 you are 18:59:12 joepie is 18:59:16 uwotm8 18:59:21 we're nought of the 7 billion people on earth 19:00:03 also woot, going back to SF probably tuesday 19:00:33 joepie91_:) I'll read that in a bit, gotta work through the other tabs 19:00:40 sunday reads, after all 19:01:20 AH AH AH 19:01:29 .tw https://twitter.com/fak3r/status/492885150745632768 19:01:30 Blown away by the Streisand (http://bit.ly/1pmGjvN) project's capabilities. I now have an instance in Amsterdamn; tor, ssh, ssl + @ansible (@fak3r) 19:01:59 seriously 19:02:00 for once 19:02:05 .tw https://twitter.com/kaepora/status/496006227059822592 19:02:06 “@FredericJacobs: Can we call Facebook's "http://Internet.org" digital colonialism? It sure looks like it. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/03/opinion/sunday/evgeny-morozov-facebooks-gateway-drug.html” (@kaepora) 19:02:07 ubuntu > arch 19:02:15 * iceTwy sighs 19:02:21 yeah, that's what internet.org is 19:02:37 making fb the "internet" to the 3.5b people 19:02:54 I trust google more in this than fb 19:03:12 google will take data, but it doesn't appear to be captive-audience'ing people 19:03:15 I trust neither 19:03:28 they just do it differently 19:03:29 I give google all my data, I have to 19:03:36 Google uses honey; Facebook mixes honey with vinegar 19:04:04 * iceTwy is frustrated 19:04:14 I'm just preparing for the dystopic future where I have to pick a side in the corporate drone wars 19:04:16 FUCK 19:04:18 :< 19:05:05 iceTwy:) at this point I just tell people to put the ubuntu LTS on their shit and focus on other problems 19:05:19 but arch 19:05:22 hng 19:05:29 I don't like arch, so I've got nothing for ya 19:05:30 lol 19:05:34 and I don't want all of ubuntu's crap 19:05:40 debian's old 19:05:41 fedora also uses systemd 19:05:48 haha 19:05:50 old one 19:06:19 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 19:06:21 I use debian testing (jessie) for that reason. I want only debian's crap (which consists primarily of kde, because that's what I'm using) 19:06:23 well 19:06:41 kde is nice, and soon kde5 might even look good 19:06:55 but debian testing isn't stable from my past experiences 19:07:03 twice I had jessie fail on my ass 19:07:10 never happened with Arch, hence why I prefer it to debian 19:07:25 maybe you should add detail to that, because I've only had one problem with testing so far and it was my fault 19:07:41 that was a couple years ago, I can't remember what it was about 19:07:46 (I full-upgrade'd when I should have safe-upgrade'd) 19:08:03 broke my video, had to roll back 19:08:09 just took a few minutes 19:08:10 lol 19:08:46 I think I have systemd now 19:09:11 I had to rm sysvinit's package because an update round a few days ago had conflicts with it 19:09:45 it may still be sysvinit, because I wouldn't put it past debian to make a smooth transition by doing that 19:10:28 mmm 19:10:31 .title https://vimeo.com/97818762 19:10:32 dorotea: Mai Dhai Band - "Sarak Sarak" on Vimeo 19:14:03 .tw https://twitter.com/voraciousbrain/status/486566194309517312 19:14:04 Euclitean geometry is about that special corner of the triangle. (@voraciousbrain) 19:14:08 .tw https://twitter.com/voraciousbrain/status/486568302681260033 19:14:09 *makes a math joke about pussy * MY BRAND (@voraciousbrain) 19:15:14 she's a favorite writer 19:15:19 iceTwy: suse, suse, suse... 19:15:24 :P 19:15:36 I do admit that you're still the only person recommending suse 19:17:05 I appreciate that this is a thing: http://www.buzzfeed.com/tools/email/longform 19:17:16 YES, BUZZFEED, EMAIL ME ONCE A WEEK WITH YOUR BEST LONGFORM 19:17:30 dorotea: you used 'best' and 'buzzfeed' in the same sentence 19:17:41 yep 19:18:04 longform, not listicles 19:18:06 :P 19:18:33 They're interesting, they mix listicles with good news 19:18:36 it's obnoxious 19:18:43 I can't actually recommend them for that reason 19:18:44 lol 19:22:45 oh man 19:22:47 .tw https://twitter.com/painted_eel/status/425333016701857792 19:22:48 nothing says "you're safe here, white people" like a big ass bowl of pine cones (@painted_eel) 19:28:44 of course there are people in gabon who are naturally immune to ebola 19:28:46 of course! 19:28:47 http://en.ird.fr/the-media-centre/scientific-newssheets/337-possible-natural-immunity-to-ebola 19:46:05 *** guest1974 (guest1974@cryto-73581221.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #crytocc 19:46:18 hello 19:47:37 ohai 19:54:02 *** th3kory (test@F677F37C.DA04BC4D.6E912EEA.IP) has joined #crytocc 19:54:28 *** Fortanon (gem@5CD5E8C1.249AF8C9.4C87CBBB.IP) has joined #crytocc 19:54:35 *** th3kory has quit (User quit: th3kory) 19:55:14 *** Gulfanon has quit (Ping timeout) 20:01:40 seriously 20:01:48 I'm going to go with something more laptop friendly 20:01:53 fubuntu.. 20:01:58 iceTwy: suse! :P 20:02:04 I don't like SuSE 20:02:08 :P 20:02:10 boo! 20:02:19 it'd work, though :P 20:02:21 not "boo" 20:02:27 yes boo 20:02:30 it's your taste, not mine 20:02:32 :D 20:02:33 you're rejecting working options 20:02:37 wtf dick 20:02:38 lol 20:02:40 you haters 20:02:43 :'- 20:02:49 see above 20:02:52 yes, and I don't like/rec suse 20:03:13 arch is perfect when you get it to work 20:03:14 WHEN you get it to work 20:03:19 sadfeys 20:03:22 * iceTwy sadfeys much 20:03:39 yeah fuck that 20:03:54 iceTwy: install suse - if it turns out not to work, you can bother me about it forever 20:03:56 I want "usually works without active intervention on my part" 20:03:57 but I'm pretty sure it will 20:03:58 :P 20:04:15 and I'd argue that "distro I don't like" is better than "distro that doesn't work" 20:04:20 I'm willing to redefine what I want from the OS/system if it fits that def 20:04:26 I don't mind struggling to set up a distro 20:04:33 AS LONG AS it's on my side 20:04:40 and there's no bug with the underlying software 20:04:45 lol 20:04:50 systemd.. 20:04:51 * iceTwy coughs 20:05:05 * dorotea shrugs 20:08:31 ha 20:08:33 http://terrygoodkind.ru/books/our-work/the-third-kingdom/ 20:08:41 aside from "whoo creative peoples using PDFy" 20:08:53 that's a pretty good bit of evidence that PDFy now works on tiny embeds as wel 20:09:36 .ru 20:09:39 who 20:09:43 the hell 20:10:00 ? 20:10:59 as far as I can tell 20:11:00 that is a fan translation 20:11:04 to Russian 20:11:11 by Russians 20:11:15 so I'm not sure what is so weird about the .ru 20:11:17 :p 20:14:19 I'd be too ashamed to use Ubuntu 20:14:23 seriously 20:14:32 dorotea: are you really saying jessie works fine 20:14:38 * joepie91_ takes iceTwy's pride and puts it in the fridge 20:14:47 joepie91_: :| 20:15:20 joepie91_:) damn, that's a teeny embed, and it totally renders 20:15:26 :D 20:15:30 ubuntu would make everything so simple though 20:15:32 :S 20:15:37 and it shows the download button *and* the fullscreen button! 20:15:41 insert the disk, and you've got an awesome installation GUI 20:15:48 joepie91_: does Amir use Ubuntu btw? can't remember 20:15:55 iirc he does 20:16:30 iceTwy: yup 20:16:32 with Unity 20:16:34 :( 20:16:39 jessie requires about as much work to maintain as I'm willing to put in. If there are package conflict resolution messages I reject and safe-upgrade until they go away 20:16:42 isn't there some way to disable Unity 20:16:43 that's about as much work as I'll do 20:16:44 and use GTK2 20:16:48 also, dorotea, http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2cey3n/a_new_open_source_free_password_manager_is_this/cjfwyzk?context=8 < success! 20:16:52 (the thread) 20:16:59 wait 20:17:00 iceTwy: xubuntu is a good start 20:17:01 obviously! 20:17:02 lol 20:17:02 stop linking to reddit, I will not allow it in my browser 20:17:06 I was about to say that 20:17:14 insofar ubuntu is ever good 20:17:18 dorotea: wat 20:17:31 joepie91_:) It's been banned in my browser for months, not gonna whitelist 20:17:33 I'd go for LXDE simply because I've been using it for a while 20:17:38 and it runs extremely well 20:18:21 well, fuck it. I'm going for Lubuntu 20:18:22 does it even gtk 20:20:00 yes it does 20:20:40 the system I had set up was i3wm + gnome utils 20:20:50 that worked pretty well, used almost no ram 20:21:01 but I don't care about that anymore because I got a 30% faster pc 20:21:03 guh.. 20:21:07 kde runs fine now, so I run it 20:21:14 ubuntu doesn't have regular updates, does it 20:21:23 regular? 20:21:27 (define) 20:21:32 I mean 20:21:34 new versions 20:21:38 i.e. not security updates 20:21:43 yep, every 6 months 20:21:52 ah hell fuck no 20:21:52 jessie it is! 20:22:06 jessie is about to stop having updates, if that's what you're on about 20:22:20 once 3.16 kernel is deployed, anyway 20:22:26 (we're on 3.14 now) 20:22:27 are you kidding me 20:22:32 where'd you get that from? 20:22:45 they picked 3.16 for when jessie stabilizes 20:22:52 and 3.16 golds soon 20:23:16 fff 20:23:23 what about unstable :> 20:23:26 that's not a very convincing argument, but I'll bet money it's correct 20:23:36 sid is very well named 20:23:43 well considering 3.15 is already out.. 20:23:46 still there and the or stuff I see 20:24:06 iceTwy: you're looking for rolling updates? 20:24:07 guest1974: ? 20:24:09 yeah, we're going from 3.14 to 3.16, as I've heard 20:24:19 the exercise today went ok 20:24:19 joepie91_: yes I am 20:24:31 which goes well with the nvidia 3.40 drivers and xorg 1.16 20:24:31 I suppose 20:24:33 tell me SuSE has rolling updates, I'll download it instantly 20:24:57 opensuse tumbleweed 20:24:58 :P 20:25:04 http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed 20:25:10 The Tumbleweed project provides a rolling updates version of openSUSE containing the latest stable versions of all software instead of relying on rigid periodic release cycles. The project does this for users that want the newest, but stable software. 20:25:18 chrome is the only thing that needs to update (outside of security fixes) as far as I'm concerned 20:25:21 everything else can sit 20:25:23 joepie look at how many times you combine or ing in your sentences 20:25:47 guest1974: what? 20:25:59 well 20:26:05 joepie91_: I'll go for Gentoo 20:26:06 HAHAHAHA. 20:26:20 * iceTwy wants to die 20:26:28 apparently this is the game 20:26:42 guest1974: I have no clue what you're on about 20:26:45 rpm is extremely weird though 20:26:58 and no AUR 20:26:59 iceTwy: it's a little painful to package, but works fine for installing 20:27:03 software.opensuse.org 20:27:06 equivalent of the AUR 20:27:11 :> 20:27:12 me too 20:27:14 just use the 1 click install 20:27:16 the name is a lie 20:27:19 because it takes more clicks 20:27:24 but it'll autoconfigure the repo and packages etc 20:27:43 are you Dutch joepie? 20:27:45 it's pretty much a metadata file that specifies the repos *and* packages to install 20:27:54 guest1974: yes... 20:28:13 i live in zwolle 20:28:40 mmm, yeah jessie is on 3.14.13, just behind 3.14.15 20:29:04 but we don't even ship new kernels until at least xx.xx.3 or 4 20:32:18 iceTwy: sidenote 20:32:20 " If you don't know how to compile your own additional kernel modules and you don't wish to learn or keep a very close eye on what is being updated, please don't use Tumbleweed." 20:32:30 so, the usual rolling release disclaimer 20:34:36 (reasons I don't do rolling release, except that technically jessie is rolling release. har har.) 20:34:59 use `testing` instead of `jessie`, $profit 20:38:52 *** neomagik_ (u@cryto-85367BC.dynamic.t-2.net) has joined #crytocc 20:40:34 *** neomagik has quit (Ping timeout) 20:57:37 I should just go for one big partition 20:57:38 cause fuck it 20:58:39 *** iceTwy has quit (User quit: WeeChat 0.4.3) 21:00:03 lol 21:18:55 mmm, trucker eggs 21:32:08 eggs 21:32:09 gimme 21:32:21 woah holy crap 21:32:23 *** iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc 21:32:26 I just got to use an USB 3.0 key 21:32:28 it's FAST 21:38:04 lol 21:45:09 *** snugglystrike (snugglystr@cryto-6B61F034.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc 21:46:31 *** snugglystrike has quit (User quit: Connection closed) 21:47:37 joepie91_:) colonialism indeed http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/03/opinion/sunday/evgeny-morozov-facebooks-gateway-drug.html?_r=0 21:48:00 It's just another example of the patronizing nature with which we treat everyone else 22:11:27 so I reinstalled Arch with a single encrypted partition 22:11:32 no more /home partition 22:11:39 even though I'd have liked to have it but.. 22:11:42 well, at least, Arch works now 22:16:21 but obviously X doesn't 22:16:24 time to dig into that 22:16:28 * iceTwy_znc yawns 22:17:19 lol 22:17:47 ah, driver issues 22:19:50 YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES 22:19:53 IT 22:19:56 WORKS 22:26:27 * joepie91_ waits 30 minutes, in anticipation of the inevitable "oh, fuck, nope, $thing is still broken" 22:26:42 no, because I'll be asleep in 30 mins 22:26:44 :) 22:26:52 * joepie91_ waits a day 22:27:17 yes, that 22:27:19 :p 22:27:23 :P 22:49:19 AH 22:49:19 the pro-marijuana ad campaign leafly's running is "Just say know." 22:49:55 This is such excite 22:55:37 *** guest1974 has quit (Ping timeout) 23:06:49 *** iceTwy has quit (User quit: WeeChat 0.4.3)